A List of Common Issues/Requests/Complaints... part 2!

[catry]

First off thanks to the Outspark staff who responded to the last list I made back in November and for fixing a lot of the things on that list.

This is a new list of most of the common complaints, bugs, etc that people have with SoS; my hope is that having them all in 1 place will make it easier to fix up.

I know I'm missing stuff, so feel free to point out what I miss xD

Bug Issues
- Many quests contain typos or vague descriptions that do not match required items/NPCs. Some contain hidden timers that players are not aware of until it's too late. These include but are not limited to:
* Level 1 all classes "Kron Storage Quest" - quest hangs at Yozette if player has level 16 quest "Skill Master's Request"
* Level 3? all "Gather Spirit Stones" - quests states (and drops) Spirit Stone Pieces but actually requires Soul Stone Pieces
* Level 45 Neophyte "Scout Class Change" - required items are listed by outdated names. To this day they still read "Gears of Light," when in fact they require Gears of Ray.
* Level 65 all "Find a component" - Required items are listed by outdated names/items are extremely difficult to obtain especially for this quest's level.
* Level 70 all "Expedition to the Cave of Cobalts" - descriptions are filled with typos.
- Sometimes Sparkcash store emoticons cause the cursor in the chat box to disappear, making it difficult for players to type and chat.
- The installer is clunky and prone to problems, plus automatic assignment to the C drive makes it impossible for some people to play. Download via torrents can be extremely slow for some players and can result in bad downloads for others; a lot of players are forced to redownload or reinstall.
- Installer is out of date. Players reinstalling must sit through months of updates.
- Normal Attack Speed is not accurate under 0.5 sec per attack. Users with 0.2 sec Attack Speed find they are still attacking no faster than 0.5/0.4.
- The blacksmith's text is confusing, stating that problems occur at +7, leading some players to enhance past +4 and as a result of failing end up downgrading their armor.
- Players sometimes cannot put up sell stores, forcing them to relog and reset everything they had been planning to sell. A minor inconvenience, but one that still has yet to be addressed.
- When making a new character, many people cannot see the character they are designing.
- Players can be "glitched" with a Pet Skill, allowing them to use that skill without the original pet. However, once glitched they can no longer summon another skill pet nor hatch any pet eggs. Players were told to contact Support to have these removed, and announcements were made that some were removed, however many players still have the glitched buffs. Also, some players who had these removed still report they cannot summon pets/hatch eggs.
- Female scouts appear "invisible" when they are in attack stance on a Felix mount.
- Apprentices wearing a Xenian shield have graphic problems with Sparkcash helms, weapons, some armor, and mounts.
- "Sent Wrong Packet" / "Access Limited Due to an Unknown Source/Reason" are two seemingly random issues that pop up sometimes at the worst moments, instantly disconnecting players.
- Various stats are problematic
* AGI is supposed to affect Critical Rate, but does not.
* It is unclear how MEN affects skill casting
* INT does not benefit magic nearly as much as POW benefits attack
- Various skills are bugged or have vague descriptions. These include but are not limited to:
* Blackmail Skill - Knight Class - Noone really knows what this does at all...
* Clear Magic Master, Poison Cure Master, Holy Cure Master, Shake Mind Master - App, Acolyte, and Disciple - it seems the master versions of these skills really don't do anything more than the level 1 versions except use more MP...

Gameplay Issues
- One of the biggest complaints is that there are too few ways of leveling outside of endless grinding. Many players have asked for more quests that give better rewards, even complex ones that involve solving riddles or traveling to certain places. Many players quit or stop levelling in the low-100s because of the increasingly dull grind. There is also a notable lack of XP-giving quests after level 85.
- Xenian class is near-impossible to play after level 16, making the party xp bonus for having a Xenian in the party basically useless. Updates specifically for Xenians promised by Break have disappeared without a trace.
- Double-clicking does not orient screen to true north, which a lot of players play oriented at.
- Players have long asked for solid definitions in terms of Kill Stealing, Mobbing with no AoE skill (holding a map/hogging mobs), and scamming in terms of rules.
- Players have requested more functionality for houses in terms of being able to restrict access (Guild/Buddy Only, invite-only) and overall use. Some suggestions have included added storage and stat boosts.
- The difficulty in making/purchasing furniture does not justify the 30-day expiration limit. Many players have asked that the limit be either extended or lifted altogether, or at least the ability to renew furniture, as these items are extremely hard to make/expensive to buy.
- Some Sparkcash/Event items (Green Cow Bell, St. Patrick's Hat) as well as in-game items (pet skills) appear to be heavily focused towards physical classes. A common complaint of magic-using classes is that they are overlooked in updates and do not get the chance to level as quickly. In fact Mages appear to be the least played class in the game.
- The Keyboard movement system of this game is hard to activate and even harder to use.
- Guildless players would like an option to turn off Guild Requests, similar to the disable Party Request option.

Content Issues
- Lack of a coherent/consistent storyline and storyline-related events.
- PVP points are useless.
- Additional Guild Functions have been announced/are visible in game, but nearly a year after guilds came out these functions still do not exist (i.e. Guild Level, Skill)
- Certain maps are becoming overcrowded due to a lack of similar/more advanced maps. Though players have been told many times that "new maps are coming" the deadline always seems to get pushed further and further behind.
- Moonbear Pet! This pet has been shown off by GMs for over a year and supposedly was to be obtained by a special quest, but is still not available to players.
- On that note, the Poyo, Poko, and Poku pets don't really seem to do anything...they're not even tradeable...
- Many players have suggested larger maps, and more realistic and larger cities.
- Player characters are almost impossible to customize without Sparkcash. Player requests for more in-game customization features, especially in such a graphically appealing game, seem to go unnoticed.
- Players have requested an in-game clock, especially set to server time in order to help players find out event times.
- Ignore system - players have requested a system to ignore specific players.
- Self-select button - Players, especially players of the templar and acolyte classes, would benefit hugely from a button that allows them to quickly select themselves.
- The veggie shop girl does not sell vegetables, nor does the pet merchant sell pets.
- Players would like the ability to distinguish between White Eggs (Map shouts) and Yellow Eggs (Server-wide shouts)
- Players have requested more info be posted in-game concerning Events, News, etc. Some have suggested bulletin boards in towns that GMs could use to put up event descriptions, sales, and news. This would help ease player confusion a lot as many players do not use the Forums, and some that do have no idea where the Calendar is.
- Dungeons in this game are currently ideal only for a select amount of quests, meaning players have little incentive to enter them. Killing bosses gives little if any extra reward.

Sparkcash
- There is a notable lack of items in the sparkcash store that benefit magic class characters (see above in Gameplay)
- Mix Gem Mode is expensive to maintain, especially when combined with the price of Sparkcash gears. Players have made 2 recommendations for this: 1) Make Mix Gem mode free to use so that players could have more freedom with outfits, or 2) make costume versions of SC gears with no stats that can be purchased for permanent durations, strictly for use with Mix Gem Mode.
- The Sparkcash store uses scripts that sometimes take forever to load or do not load at all. A more simplistic, reliable page may be beneficial to both users and Outspark alike.
- Many complaints have been made about multi-location trackers, which currently can only be obtained by purchasing a health kit. Players have found these multi-tracks to be extremely helpful and it would be great if they were put in-game or at least sold on their own outside of the kit.
- Yellow egg abuse is a regular complaint. These are too easily obtained and spammed in large amounts, oftentimes blocking out valid honest shouts to buy/sell or find parties. Some suggestions have included another price increase on these items, stricter enforcement of yellow egg abuse, or implementation of these into a higher-leveled quest.
- A common complaint is that many of the items in the SC store are very expensive and either short-term or not very effective, especially when compared to other Outspark game shops.
- Many players have complained about the EXP Boost book. Above level 120 they are relatively useless and do nothing to lessen the heavy grind, thus making them a lot less worth their cost. Recently players have noticed these books have, without announcement, stopped boosting quest XP, making leveling even more difficult.
- Players would like the ability to renew Sparkcash gears rather than having to buy a new set each month.

Communication/Community
- Players have complained frequently about poor communication between Outspark and players in terms of updates, events, changes, etc. Patch notes are sometimes missing or vague, and many players feel as if posts in the forums are largely ignored especially since the departure of CM_Junglecurry. (admittedly, Blackshot does have it a little worse than us...) The lack of communication has lead to mass user paranoia as well as a general consensus that SoS is heavily ignored by staff (to put it lightly... >.>;;)
- Players have complained that suggestions or feedback made often goes unnoticed, especially when put in places like the Feedback Forum.
- Feedback on classes posted in each of the individual class forums by CM_Junglecurry have apparently been abandoned/ignored without notice.
- Many players have suggested the assignment of Game Leaders similar to the ones found in Fiesta in order to help the GMs in-game.
- Guides on the SoS Homepage are Outdated. Useful player guides are often lost in the forums or hosted on other sites that are not as easily known by newer players.

Forums
- The Outspark forums are considered to be boring, especially when compared to Fiesta Forums. SoS avatars are outdated and it is easy to get lost with all its various subsections.
- Outdated stickies dating back to Closed Beta still adorn various sections of the forums...
- Many players feel the forums are overlooked by Outspark staff. Kudos to CL_ShadowIC2 for helping enforce the SoS forums a little better lately.
- SoS Community Leaders seem to have a high attrition rate (still).


...that's all I can remember for now >.>;;; I'm sure there's more, so if you come up with something I missed please let me know x3

[wardomic]

Nice list Kit

I reported the gather spirit stones quest in detail awhile ago and rubix replied to it. And that quest is doable at lvl 29 i tested it even tho it says lvl 30 when that quest pops up when you level(forgot to mention that last part) http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205690

I would like to add the highlighting of normal crits in relation to when hovering over agi first posted by FatTony30, please see http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35211 for more details on that.

There is also the question of the Gleaming Pieces/Blessed Piece quest when doing as Scouts and Disciples that i put up, i could only test as a Scout but i'm sure it's probably the same for Disciples. http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202861

Great job on gathering all of that information and putting it in one spot, if i think of or find anything else i will post it here.

[poochyenarulez]

"- Yellow egg abuse is a regular complaint. These are too easily obtained and spammed in large amounts, oftentimes blocking out valid honest shouts to buy/sell or find parties. Some suggestions have included another price increase on these items, stricter enforcement of yellow egg abuse, or implementation of these into a higher-leveled quest."

wat are people talking about wen they say people are abusing yellow eggs?
just cause most people use them to buy or sell things, that don't mean thats the only way ur alowed to use them

[SkoomaLizardOnia]

its not just scouts that disspaere on mounts. app's become invisible in attack stance on any mount.

[catry]

"- Yellow egg abuse is a regular complaint. These are too easily obtained and spammed in large amounts, oftentimes blocking out valid honest shouts to buy/sell or find parties. Some suggestions have included another price increase on these items, stricter enforcement of yellow egg abuse, or implementation of these into a higher-leveled quest."

wat are people talking about wen they say people are abusing yellow eggs?
just cause most people use them to buy or sell things, that don't mean thats the only way ur alowed to use them

According to Murdock they are only supposed to be used for B/S, looking for parties/guilds, events, or in otherwise used with sensible restraint (i.e. not having a Yellow Egg convo)

[poochyenarulez]

(i.e. not having a Yellow Egg convo)

murdock and other gms have conversations with people all the time with yellow eggs o.o

[catry]

You can ask him yourself, he's shouted it plenty of times when people are spamming and passes out bans.

[saiguru]

concerning yellow egg abuse, if its a conversation between two people over multiple yellow eggs about all sorts of nonsense no one wants to hear except the two people saying it, it should be in PM. Cause it honestl sucks hard when you buy a yellow egg and use one to sell something and a few r-tards push it out of view in seconds telliing each other how much they love each other, announcing thier shoppinglists at wal-mart, going wwwwwwwwww, or jabbering on about how bd they gonna mess someone up in pvp for for looking at them funny.

yes im a hypocrite, but im funnier than 95% of the others who do it.

[Orangeman21]

Ok a few things

1. The class change from Scout to Archer the text from the alchemist is apparantly what it would be for the class change from Apprentice to Mage I have no screenshots of this because I was rushed into changing >>;

2. Sometimes the Inventory Screen disappears off the main game screen and unable to be retrived without a well relog into the program. This usally happens while setting up shop for me.

3. Blazing has had the wisdom requirement taken off without notice and this is unfair to players that added wisdom thinking they needed it to learn blazing skill and have no sparkcash to buy a stat reset and people that have bought double resets in the past to learn the skill and then reset to their normal build.

On that Note Blackmail lowers the skill speed of an opponent, but does not do any of the effects listed on the skill description. The same thing with triangle slash it says it is supposed to take 100 mp away from an opponent when hit, but there is no such effect.

Thats about it for now may edit later as I think of more stuff x.x

[poochyenarulez]

most of the skill books description is wrong, that or the skill itself

[Ayanami]

Thank you Kit for the exhaustive list!

Any idea when the next Solstice Council Meeting is planned?




Communication/Community
- Players have complained frequently about poor communication between Outspark and players in terms of updates, events, changes, etc. Patch notes are sometimes missing or vague, and many players feel as if posts in the forums are largely ignored especially since the departure of CM_Junglecurry. (admittedly, Blackshot does have it a little worse than us...) The lack of communication has lead to mass user paranoia as well as a general consensus that SoS is heavily ignored by staff (to put it lightly... >.>;;)


More than anything else, THIS is the biggest problem I have with this game. Given that the game is still in development, people have run into so many bugs and problems that I feel that their Customer Support and communication with players in general is just...not up to snuff. I would feel better about so many issues if we just heard feedback from Outspark on a regular basis. "We are working to fix x, we are looking to add y", etc.

Also, when GMs and CSRs DO post in the forums or respond to players, unfortunately they sometimes sound...not well informed enough (to put it nicely). Example that comes to mind: Murdock saying that exp books have NEVER worked with quests. Also, remember the kron exploit when they told us "almost all the extra kron has been removed from the game"?



My personal issues with Outspark include:

A ticket submitted for an egg that cannot be hatched (have not heard any word from them for nearly a month).

My apprentice who is STILL pet skill glitched (again, over a month after the initial ticket).

Oh and guess what? I also had an account warning this month. What for? I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO TELL ME. Is that how account warnings/bannings usually happen in most MMORPGS? No reason, no evidence, just a "Hey! Don't do whatever it is that you did!"?

[deoxys114]

Two things. The Clear Magic thing I believe actually takes less MP the higher the lvl it is.

Also, the problem most likely with the sell screen is that ppl are putting their sell box in the top left corner. When you close the store, then try opening it again, the sell box is up in the top left again, making the inventory box off screen. I believe you just have to move the sell box over, close sell box, re-open and your are good.

[wardomic]

sorry doxys that sounded very plausible and i just tried it, moving the sell box closing and reopening doesn't fix it apparently, tho it can cause the problem in the first place(got my inventory completely off screen, no way to even see it)

[deoxys114]

Lol. Ok. Well that's what I used to do when I made that mistake. Maybe something happened. Well at least that solves one way to avoid it. ^^ One step at a time.

[TheDarkSenshi]

Lovely thread, as always dear! I also want to add to the Bug Section these two errors that people do receive almost all the time, sometimes several in a few hours' time.

Sent Wrong Packet - What is this? What does it mean? What packet is being sent??? No information has been found about this one. Also no one ever replies to my threads about them.

Access Limited Due to an Unknown Source - What the is this? Still no information on this. Also no replies to my threads on this....either.

These are serious errors becuz it happens at any time. It happened to me at least 12 times earlier today. I would like to see these issues be fixed....or at least know more about them and what could be done to fix them.

[Quazzie]

Issue with enhance. Ok i'm overweight right now and my attack speed is 1.1 sec. When i use lv4 enhance my attack speed is 0.5. O_o I'm only supposed to get a 0.3 speed boost. o_O

[siruschaos]

Here's few I'd like to perhaps suggest. Mostly content related for now.

-Dungeons: Except for The Mines (for Mining Soul Stone Fragments) and The Library (having a higher Xen Drop Rate and Ubooks), all other dungeons serve little to no purpose in exploring except for a extreme few selected quests. Places like the Ice Dungeon, Sleepless Grave are turned off by higher levels due to stronger monsters but little rewards to incite. The "Bosses" pretty much drop worthless items most of the time.

-Enhancement: Lacks creavity in making gears, everyone aims for the higher the + the better and that's it. The Weaponsmith/Armorsmith should introduce ways of adding special properties to gears (things like +50 HP to Armor etc.).

-Secondary Gears: For starters, Warlords lack the Two Handed Sword...it should be there, and not just for show (actually inflict great damage in exchange for cutting defense) Also dual wielding whether swords or daggers have barely any benefit to incite their usage more over shields. Should offer greater attack increases and special dual-type skills.

-Channels: This should be more preferred before adding more maps to the game, in my opinion. The current "overcrowding" of maps will just continue even by adding more in. This would help reduce the map controlling on a specific map that prohibits other players from enjoying their time there. Causes ranging from rapid respawns, lack of monsters, mob hoggers, racing and competiting on maps...all those annoyances that can stress/prevent a player from gameplay enjoyment. Everyone should have a right at times to be where they want, and not feel like they're being kicked out cause "someone owns the place". Channels...will drastically reduce this.

[kazuya-str]

For example, the east SZ in Kastled Grove to this day is marked on the map but does not exist.

They safezone is no longer marked on the map and will remain nonexistent.
Errm... other than that example everything seems right to me.

[holli_hobbi]

Wonderful list. :)

I would like to add that while the grocery guy quests all have quest drops for the items needed, none of the veggie girl quests do.

Also, the house drops NEED to be made to weigh less, and the drop frequency needs to match up to the numbers required for the house/furniture. So like copper bars, for example, should be one of the most common house drops, and the various refining stones should be rarer, since they are not used as much.

[ishru]

Hi! Great idea posting this all together! Here are my few beefs, sorry if they were already included :D

I know this isnt important to playing the game, but I think PVP needs to be balanced. As someone who enjoys going to duel in PVP, id like to see some changes so that its more fair and balanced. A few examples: wiz/mage binds can be cured instantly, rendering those essential skills useless. Perhaps introduce a cool down to magic elixirs, and etc. And certain damage by certain classes is totally bogus.

Another thing that sucks is when aggro follows you into SZ, and lands that killing blow. I think SZ should grant total sactuary, regardless if you hit the baddie or not beforehand. Plus its annoying when baddies are wandering in SZ whilst mobbing.

-AND-

The classes as a whole need a total revamp. As it is the wizard class is the least played and unbalanced of all the classes. Rangers need a better AOE bind, fast attk but much less dmg. Sins need a slight cut in dodge, but better defence. And warriors/warlords need a cut in def and damage. Sorrow shout SHOULD not do as much damage as a wizard AOE. I dunno, just my views ;)

[taintedl0ve]

outdated installer is the biggest for me x.x I think it starts in March now.

[ChristinaM]

I would like to add somethings about guilds and functions of guilds. There is an option for a guild skill.. What is this and why cant we use it. Also I would like to see more function of a guild instead of it just being a place to easily chat with friends.

Something like guild wars (that aren't sc related) I played a different game where there is a guild war every Saturday morning. And all the guilds have to break down some walls to get to the castle and whoever can get their guilds flag set in the top of the castle is in charge of the town for that week (I think they have taxes and things in that game so its pretty in depth and a big reward to win) Every week you can sign up with your ally's and if you "own" the castle that week, its your job to defend your flag from all the others...It's pretty fun and I would enjoy it even more if it was SOS :)

ANYWAY...More functions and events for guilds would be awesome! And if we ever have something like the above mentioned, and we get to have ally's and things, having another chat option for our ally's would be cool :D

I also wanted to put my 2 cents in on storage issues. With all the new quest items we really should have more room to store these things. Either by making a quest for bigger storage or just giving it to us all together. I would not like it to be a sc thing though. That wouldn't be fair for scless players, IMO.

Another thing that has always bothered me is the actual outspark sos homepage. Its not THAT descriptive for new players looking into the game ( I know this isn't a HUGE deal ) But when you go to the area to see the different sorts of char's it only shows the 1st and 2nd class change. To me when you are looking into a game, you want to see what the end result of your hard work would be. If that makes sense. The page just lacks information all around for beginner players.

Well those are my things for now.. Thanks for the great post Kit!

[tazsbigtoy]

I would like to add somethings about guilds and functions of guilds. There is an option for a guild skill.. What is this and why cant we use it. Also I would like to see more function of a guild instead of it just being a place to easily chat with friends.

Something like guild wars (that aren't sc related) I played a different game where there is a guild war every Saturday morning. And all the guilds have to break down some walls to get to the castle and whoever can get their guilds flag set in the top of the castle is in charge of the town for that week (I think they have taxes and things in that game so its pretty in depth and a big reward to win) Every week you can sign up with your ally's and if you "own" the castle that week, its your job to defend your flag from all the others...It's pretty fun and I would enjoy it even more if it was SOS :)

ANYWAY...More functions and events for guilds would be awesome! And if we ever have something like the above mentioned, and we get to have ally's and things, having another chat option for our ally's would be cool :D

I also wanted to put my 2 cents in on storage issues. With all the new quest items we really should have more room to store these things. Either by making a quest for bigger storage or just giving it to us all together. I would not like it to be a sc thing though. That wouldn't be fair for scless players, IMO.

Another thing that has always bothered me is the actual outspark sos homepage. Its not THAT descriptive for new players looking into the game ( I know this isn't a HUGE deal ) But when you go to the area to see the different sorts of char's it only shows the 1st and 2nd class change. To me when you are looking into a game, you want to see what the end result of your hard work would be. If that makes sense. The page just lacks information all around for beginner players.

Well those are my things for now.. Thanks for the great post Kit!

Well, if I remember right the guild skill is something that is on the list to be implemented in the game in the future, as well as something called a guild dungeon. Since we have recently received several updates from that list, the pet skills, riding pets, houses, I am hopeful.

[deoxys114]

I will throw in my suggestion from a thread that I made.

A Guild Activity Log. It tells you when someone in your guild has last logged on. This can help deal with figuring out how active one is, since a lot of the time, it's vague on who is and isn't active.

[davidaqin]

I would like to add somethings about guilds and functions of guilds. There is an option for a guild skill.. What is this and why cant we use it. Also I would like to see more function of a guild instead of it just being a place to easily chat with friends.

Something like guild wars (that aren't sc related) I played a different game where there is a guild war every Saturday morning. And all the guilds have to break down some walls to get to the castle and whoever can get their guilds flag set in the top of the castle is in charge of the town for that week (I think they have taxes and things in that game so its pretty in depth and a big reward to win) Every week you can sign up with your ally's and if you "own" the castle that week, its your job to defend your flag from all the others...It's pretty fun and I would enjoy it even more if it was SOS :)

ANYWAY...More functions and events for guilds would be awesome! And if we ever have something like the above mentioned, and we get to have ally's and things, having another chat option for our ally's would be cool :D

I also wanted to put my 2 cents in on storage issues. With all the new quest items we really should have more room to store these things. Either by making a quest for bigger storage or just giving it to us all together. I would not like it to be a sc thing though. That wouldn't be fair for scless players, IMO.

Another thing that has always bothered me is the actual outspark sos homepage. Its not THAT descriptive for new players looking into the game ( I know this isn't a HUGE deal ) But when you go to the area to see the different sorts of char's it only shows the 1st and 2nd class change. To me when you are looking into a game, you want to see what the end result of your hard work would be. If that makes sense. The page just lacks information all around for beginner players.

Well those are my things for now.. Thanks for the great post Kit!


may i ask what game were u talking about about the guild wars? i think i m thinking about the same one as the one u were talking about 0.o

[ChristinaM]

may i ask what game were u talking about about the guild wars? i think i m thinking about the same one as the one u were talking about 0.o

Kal Online

[RubixCuban]

I have two questions regarding these two issues.


"Players sometimes cannot put up sell stores, forcing them to relog and reset everything they had been planning to sell. A minor inconvenience, but one that still has yet to be addressed."


I have been trying to reproduce this issue and i have had no luck at all with it. Can you guys help me out some and point me into the right direction to reproduce this error. Or is it just kind of random?

"- Apprentices wearing a Xenian shield have graphic problems with Sparkcash helms, weapons, some armor, and mounts."

What shield is it exactly?



I am working on getting most of the Bug Issues fixed soon.

Is there any way that maybe in the bug reporting section of the forums we can get a thread going about the skill books. Since there is so many and since i know you guy tend to know the issues can you please post it there. It will help me out extremely and make it easier to get those issues fixed. Thanks and please be detailed

[poochyenarulez]

"Players sometimes cannot put up sell stores, forcing them to relog and reset everything they had been planning to sell. A minor inconvenience, but one that still has yet to be addressed."


I have been trying to reproduce this issue and i have had no luck at all with it. Can you guys help me out some and point me into the right direction to reproduce this error. Or is it just kind of random?

i've noticed that it will be certain spots wen it happens, or it will be certain items, cause if i have say 5 books in my shop, if i take a certain one out, or replace it, i can set up a shop...

[danibelle07]

the shop bug affects me randomly too, sometimes it resolves itself if I rearrange the order in which I enter the items or if I adjust prices o.O

[Orangeman21]

Is there any way that maybe in the bug reporting section of the forums we can get a thread going about the skill books. Since there is so many and since i know you guy tend to know the issues can you please post it there. It will help me out extremely and make it easier to get those issues fixed. Thanks and please be detailed

Done http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2446166#post2446166

Go post your skill issues people!!!

[SawyerAshfire]

*applauds* I just wanna say that this is a steller compilation you've made Kit. I'm most impressed with your dedication and attention to observation and detail. I really do hope that this extensive list is taken care of because I see quite a few things that I myself would like to be handled sooner rather than later. Currently I am the only Solstice CL and I have a hard time trying to ballance real life with the maintaining of the forums. Shad has done an amazing job helping me out and picking up the slack but I agree that we need a larger staff and more eyes. I really truly am impressed with the work you put into these posts.

EDIT! - I take that back about being the only CL...MIKILOVE! I only just found out!

[catry]

I have two questions regarding these two issues.


"Players sometimes cannot put up sell stores, forcing them to relog and reset everything they had been planning to sell. A minor inconvenience, but one that still has yet to be addressed."


I have been trying to reproduce this issue and i have had no luck at all with it. Can you guys help me out some and point me into the right direction to reproduce this error. Or is it just kind of random?

"- Apprentices wearing a Xenian shield have graphic problems with Sparkcash helms, weapons, some armor, and mounts."

What shield is it exactly?



I am working on getting most of the Bug Issues fixed soon.

Is there any way that maybe in the bug reporting section of the forums we can get a thread going about the skill books. Since there is so many and since i know you guy tend to know the issues can you please post it there. It will help me out extremely and make it easier to get those issues fixed. Thanks and please be detailed

For the store glitch, I've noticed it affects me randomly but is more likely to pop up on my slower computer. The apprentice thing is any Xenian shield (Immaturity, Novice).

[Tonizi]

I have two questions regarding these two issues.


"Players sometimes cannot put up sell stores, forcing them to relog and reset everything they had been planning to sell. A minor inconvenience, but one that still has yet to be addressed."


I have been trying to reproduce this issue and i have had no luck at all with it. Can you guys help me out some and point me into the right direction to reproduce this error. Or is it just kind of random?

I am working on getting most of the Bug Issues fixed soon.

Is there any way that maybe in the bug reporting section of the forums we can get a thread going about the skill books. Since there is so many and since i know you guy tend to know the issues can you please post it there. It will help me out extremely and make it easier to get those issues fixed. Thanks and please be detailed

The Store Glitch:

From my experience, the glitch only occurs when u take something from storage and set up store with some of those items. For instance, if u pick some drops and set shop with those the glitch nevers occurs. Usually, when the glitch occurs i just press "Esc" and go to "character selection". After "relog" with the same char, since the items r already with u (no taking from storage) the glitch never occurs.

Hope this help.

[RubixCuban]

Done http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2446166#post2446166

Go post your skill issues people!!!

Thank you for that. And I think the only thing you were missing in the format is what the bug or issue is. Unless I didn't see it in there. And again thank you for making that thread. It will help me out greatly!

[holli_hobbi]

"Players sometimes cannot put up sell stores, forcing them to relog and reset everything they had been planning to sell. A minor inconvenience, but one that still has yet to be addressed."

I have been trying to reproduce this issue and i have had no luck at all with it. Can you guys help me out some and point me into the right direction to reproduce this error. Or is it just kind of random?

I've also noticed that putting a place holder (such as trackers for zero) seems to help prevent the problem, but that might be because the trackers were on me, not from storage. But yeah, it only occurs when you are trying to set a shop with things you took from storage.

[danibelle07]

o0o0o good observation holli

[hu_kitten]

Wow.. Great post Kit! There are seriously so many problems that I guess that they have lost count of the problems or do not even know about it. These problems has persisted for so long that it hinders the game play somehow. I have been noticing the sc emotions has cause the cursor on the chat box to disappear and is irritating to be typing and realise in the end that your sentence isn't typed out. That installer is indeed scary, it is dated back to March. The recent URI problem has made me redownload the game and it always scares me to hope that the update would go through smoothly, because if it doesn't goes through smoothly and hangs up along the way or tells me there is problem downloading it, when you open the game and go in play, there will be glitches everywhere like characters become mobs, the maps do not load properly.

The "Sent Wrong Packet" is another killer. It hangs and make you disconnect from the game. If you are aoeing with a healer, the healer will die from the mob which I do not like or wish for it to kill my healer. PvP is really -speechless-. I realise some players kill others to get more WIN points. For example, when I was a noob playing this game the first time and visiting the different places of the game, I went in to check out PvP. The moment I step into the PvP areana, I was killed by some person instantly. I told that person that I am not here to fight, only visiting purpose and that person didn't care at all, only care about getting more winning points. I notice another thing is, some players target at lower level characters at PvP, when these lower level players are just there for fun. So thus.. is such kind of PvP fair? I do not feel so.

I notice the Sc store items are now separated into 7days and 30days. This makes the item list even more longer and isn't user-friendly at all. If I want a particular item but doesn't know which category it belongs to, I have surf through the whole list to search for it. Why not just show the picture of the item and after clicking it, have another selection for the item in 7days or 30days. The Sc store now is really complicating. This are just my comments. No harm to anyone. :X

[poochyenarulez]

PvP is really -speechless-. I realise some players kill others to get more WIN points. For example, when I was a noob playing this game the first time and visiting the different places of the game, I went in to check out PvP. The moment I step into the PvP areana, I was killed by some person instantly. I told that person that I am not here to fight, only visiting purpose and that person didn't care at all, only care about getting more winning points. I notice another thing is, some players target at lower level characters at PvP, when these lower level players are just there for fun. So thus.. is such kind of PvP fair? I do not feel so.


wat people don't understand is, pvp is JUST like any other map with monsters, some are agro, some aren't, so hit hard, other don't....
sometimes i want to explore temp, but teh moment i step out of sz, i die from aggros....

and i think if u kill some1 much lower lvl than u, u don't get teh point

[Kayarine]

Good job putting this list up!
While I can't add anything to it (for a reason I believe is obvious), I'd like to confirm that Clear Magic Master Level uses less MP than Lv 1 (Lv 1 uses 11MP, Master Lv uses 7MP). I think it's the same for the other skills that removes status ailments (can't confirm that since my Aco and Disc aren't high enough)

[heavenzcloud]

PvP is really -speechless-. I realise some players kill others to get more WIN points. For example, when I was a noob playing this game the first time and visiting the different places of the game, I went in to check out PvP. The moment I step into the PvP areana, I was killed by some person instantly. I told that person that I am not here to fight, only visiting purpose and that person didn't care at all, only care about getting more winning points. I notice another thing is, some players target at lower level characters at PvP, when these lower level players are just there for fun. So thus.. is such kind of PvP fair? I do not feel so.

Off Topic:

PvP has been fixed. Before you had 2 choices about PvP, don't go, or grind enough to fight back. Now if you want to go for fun, there is a level based PvP arena that you can go and hang out in and not have to be worried about high levels ruining your fun.





and i think if u kill some1 much lower lvl than u, u don't get teh point

You do collect win points, but you dont collect total points.

Thanks to all those lil neos and apps I killed in todays pvp event to prove it^^;



On Topic:

Thanks for making the list Kit, and thanks Rubix for checking into these items. (Kit owes me a yellow watermelon) :3

[wardomic]

I think it's both xenian shield and xenian sword that cause graphic glitches, tho i don't have room on my account with sc to prove the sword thing.

Is it only apps? i have a feeling that since apps are the only class that benefit from the shield people think it's apps only, since every other class discard the shield and sword without regret(and scouts are unable to equip the shield anyways). Having an app with a mount, perm black cat ears, green bell, green kamishino and the xenian shield i have done a number of these glitches, including...
Riding a mount but having normal app appearance?(my mount and green kamishino are disregarded when producing my look) disappear in attack stance while on mount, not seeing my cat ears and green bell, invisible staff, etc...

As for the not able to create a put up a sell store, so far it seems random, try to set up shop with something directly from your hotel at 0 krons is a good way to reproduce, might be able to figure out the other instances from there somehow.

[poochyenarulez]

i want to bump this,
were keep getting useless updates <.<
banner wen we enter a map
waypoints
now an updated monster/npc map thing
none of that is stuff we asked for, or needed, y don't we get update fixing something that needs to be fixed

btw, aparently are new currency is count, not kron anymore o.O

[noukie_beast]

Huh no more kron??? Gotta check that out 0_o

[mslamt]

its not just scouts that disspaere on mounts. app's become invisible in attack stance on any mount.
I have the exact problem with disappearing on my mount - St. Bernard - I am a Scout. My other 2 characters which are an Apprentice and a Neophyte. Trying to get this problem solved - driving me nuts watching me go in and out.

[schartf]

*applauds* I just wanna say that this is a steller compilation you've made Kit. I'm most impressed with your dedication and attention to observation and detail. I really do hope that this extensive list is taken care of because I see quite a few things that I myself would like to be handled sooner rather than later. Currently I am the only Solstice CL and I have a hard time trying to ballance real life with the maintaining of the forums. Shad has done an amazing job helping me out and picking up the slack but I agree that we need a larger staff and more eyes. I really truly am impressed with the work you put into these posts.

:D Ok...does SoS CL or GMs', Qa's (see Bolded/Italic area) need a part time Proofer??...Im retired and available......:cool:

[ARNOTA]

i would like to see the pet quest items such as egg, incubator, and music box not show up when your selling to NPC i know lots of ppl that have sold them because of this!

[ManaKnightMatthew]

i would like to see the pet quest items such as egg, incubator, and music box not show up when your selling to NPC i know lots of ppl that have sold them because of this!

Is one of the reasons I suggested a Pet Quest Checkpoint, but if this were to happen and they didn't appear in the store there probably wouldn't need to be one.

I do agree... they need to focus on the problems on hand. In that case, if they did, there wouldn't be any new problems to deal with once the newer items are added. (a.k.a. the new town rumor going around)

[sorcerus]

Every time we get a new patch I start with a new batch of problems, like having problems with my chat box it disappears totally weather or not I'm chatting then I have to use the shift+enter keys to get it back up, and my caricature runs all over the place like (a duff-as) I'm uninterested in the conversation, it's an embarrassment, the lvl 25 pet quest doesn't tell you to click on the pet in the box for the lvl 60 Hat for the poyo, exct. pets, these pets should pickup our items without feeding them. The size of the chat text is so small it's hard to read without caps. the game should have an option to make text larger if needed. anyone got any sugestions on how to fix this? I already dissabled(unchecked) the use the keyboard control that helped last patch for my chat box it hasn't solved my problem, The Enchanter is costing outrageous amounts to enhance Pet Mounts and other items, to enhance pets it costs between $20.00 to $50.00 to enhance one pet on top of all the labor and kron it's not fair to players to work so hard to get a mount to loose it or take mounts to be able to get items to try enhancement. this must be a Glitch because it wasn't that bad until we got the recent patches, I go threw 3 or 4 pet bundles to get my pet up to lvl3 it must be a glitch. I have had the problem with setting up shop also try opening your inventory then try to set up, i have also opened the store and exited it then set up also.

[poochyenarulez]

it is waaaay to hard to enhance a pet~