Are fighters becoming superior?

[hanh106]

from my point of view, they r, look, they first of all have the highest hp,def, and atk out of all the other class. they have stun, this makes all the classes weak, they have devastate, which makes them even more powerful, then they have vampiric strike, basically a cleric's heal with DMG. They have their own personalize buff which makes them take part of the cleric's role even more. Then they have a upgraded version of the cleric's stoneskin which is toughness (although it last lest time but they can spam it.)

They also have their own debuff which takes the role of the archers, they have very high DMG which takes the role of the mage. they also can out-level several classes sometime cause they r good for tank, they have higher hp and def than archer and mage, they can go against kill more monster than cleric faster because of their AOE.

[omega_cloud9]

They've had this for a very long time now, you just gotta deal. I know mages as well can beat warriors, but look every class has their own specialty, and not all classes are meant for Player vs Player, but more of Player vs Enviroment.

[spheris]

ummmmm, how about no?

Can we say mesmerize? ;D the super spiffy mage skill that puts its target to sleep, and has a relatively low cd.

Also I'd like to point out that concussive charge and devastate cannot be used in sequence, vampiric does not in any way compare to a clerics heal, and really idk why you're even bothering to complain about toughness-why would you want to constantly cast a buff on yourself? You hav to admit clerics got the better deal on that one.

Also fighters are the debuff class, archers are the dot class -.-"

Concerning the aoes, we got 2 that cause dmg, devastate, and whirlwind-which if you dont empower you can only use it every 3 minutes.

[leobaloy]

level 100 mages get freeze, which is basically stun
so now they have a stun and fear, and fighters are overpowered? not to mention they can kite one of their strongest skills with a 1.2sec cd.........

fear, freeze, stifle :/

and btw, vampiric strike only heals for like 1k at lv91 with a cd of 2 mins....
oh yea, totally a heal

personal buff? you're trading def for dmg, not sure how its like a cleric :/

and since when do archers do debuffs? o.o i want to know, seriously i have a lv72 archer, is it a higher level skill?....all mine can do is DoT's

[Zwivix]

Lmao end game this thread should be made a mage thread. Fighters will get pwned by mages later on....archers might have a chance depending on build, but dd pwn in end game.

[spheris]

*cough..... ^----see xD

[Eternal_Doom]

ummmmm, how about no?

Can we say mesmerize? ;D the super spiffy mage skill that puts its target to sleep, and has a relatively low cd.



The time that the Mesmerise lasts is random I think.

And you wake up as soon as you are attaked. >_>

[spheris]

The time that the Mesmerise lasts is random I think.

And you wake up as soon as you are attaked. >_>

and the time the target is asleep isn't sufficient enough to set an aoe nitemare of sorts, fear, then spam them to death right? ;D

[ANDREWMANDUDE]

[/QUOTE]from my point of view, they r, look, they first of all have the highest hp,def, and atk out of all the other class.[/QUOTE]

to this all i have to say is the following, Mages have the highest M.Def, M.Atk. At 7x they can pulverize anything that crosses them. Fighters only pwn to about 60 ish.


[/QUOTE]they have stun, this makes all the classes weak, they have devastate[/QUOTE]

the stuns have to wait 15 seconds to charge, and there are only 2 AoE attacks of fighters so this makes them balanced with all of the other classes. Clerics don't have an AoE because they can heal themself and others which is a MAJOR advantage. Look at Archers, they have an AoE at 20 and at 51 they can poison any target in a certain area which can be described as Powerleveling their self.

[/QUOTE]then they have vampiric strike, basically a cleric's heal with DMG.[/QUOTE]
ok one thing to say. 2 minute cool down, clerics heal is 3 seconds.

[/QUOTE]They have their own personalize buff which makes them take part of the cleric's role even more.[/QUOTE]

yes. this is true but the buff takes away defence so this is nothing compared to the cleric buff which only makes you more powerful no side effects take place.

[/QUOTE]Then they have a upgraded version of the cleric's stoneskin which is toughness (although it last lest time but they can spam it.)[/QUOTE]
this is also true but, this can only be used with a sheild who's weapon is a one handed sword. This one handed sword can't deal a lot of damage without the buff you talk about. also you rarely see people using toughness so it means there is no point of it being in the game.

[/QUOTE]They also have their own debuff which takes the role of the archers[/QUOTE]

they only have 1 debuff compared to the four that the archers have (please correct me if i'm wrong)

[/QUOTE]they have very high DMG which takes the role of the mage.[/QUOTE]

this is not related to mages only because mages have high Magic Damage. Like I said around 7x they can deal massive damage, more then fighters can ever dream of.

[/QUOTE]they also can out-level several classes sometime cause they r good for tank[/QUOTE]

this is outrageous. The only way fighters can level are the following, Questing, Duoing with Archers, Mages, and/or Clerics, and Leeching. Fighters can't level for anything by themselfs. this supports the balance of the four classes.

[/QUOTE]they have higher hp and def than archer and mage,[/QUOTE]

Mages have high SP and archers HP and SP are amazingly high if you have rings and build right.

[/QUOTE]they can go against kill more monster than cleric faster because of their AOE.[/QUOTE]

Mages have AoE attacks at level 20, 60, 68(again, correct me if I'm wrong) and two more if I'm correct. Archers can Take a bigger mob than fighters because they kite (which is using Natures Mist and running around a room killing the monsters slowly) the reason why clerics don't have an AoE is because they heal. They can heal anyone.
i rest my case
-taft411

[sasuke2490]

i think the only way to kill a good fighter is to kill him from a distance like mages do or poisin them to death and while doing that running away from their big steel blade rofl.

[ANDREWMANDUDE]

that is not true, some people do prefer close range combet for their reputation or to show off
and most of the time fighters will die

[zues8844]

Basically, fighters are good up to 100. Then mages hand our asses back to us.

[koreannuke]

i donno I think mesmerize would be very very useful in pvps. After you spam all your skills, you can mesmerize and buy some time for your skills to wait for CD.

In group battles you can sleep one target and focus fire on one. Maybe sleep a cleric and kill the other targets.

It's totally up to fighters to if you want to be a mage slayer or champion of fighters depending on what stats you get on your equipments.

For the thread starter, I believe anyone who's in pvp that's not a fighter can attack from a distance? A fighter can only kill someone when they have someone stunned. Don't get hit by devastate. lol.

Andrew thx for pointing out the obvious.
I don't think Fighters are over powered. I don't know what andrew is talking about but, Fighters and Archers are the 2 classes that can solo very well. Back in Teva I basically soloed my way up to lvl 79 relatively quickly. (70~79) took me 3 days at trumpy remains.

Fighters definitely have an edge in soloing. I can say that much.

[aknrules]

wow another thread hating fighters for no reason...

[Zamacka]

I think the reason it seems like fighters are becoming stronger is that +9 godly gears/weapons are much more avaible for fighters then any other class now. Fighters have always been very good because of the way they can use there build in conjuction with all the high hp and damage the normal fighter is born with. I think that if mages had the number of fighters then there would be maxed everything +9 everything mages that would pwn mages like fighters do to everyone else.

[enn19842]

fighter owns every1 from lvl 1-89 then afterward mages owns every1

[jannij777]

Lmao end game this thread should be made a mage thread. Fighters will get pwned by mages later on....archers might have a chance depending on build, but dd pwn in end game.


are you sure?fighter have to survive,first hit at mages at lvl100,whith spr in your gear and shield,its not so difficult to survive a lvl100 mage,since cds are very long a fighter has just to Dash(fast running) devastate and mage will die,since stiffle dont works anymore at lvl 100(since figghter are using now attack increase

[keleios]

fighter owns every1 from lvl 1-89 then afterward mages owns every1

That's blasphemy, I've been owning higher level fighters since I got fear.. And, I could take down +9 BK fighters before they were nerfed .. It's all about timing and placement of skills.

[Blaxcalibur]

are you sure?fighter have to survive,first hit at mages at lvl100,whith spr in your gear and shield,its not so difficult to survive a lvl100 mage,since cds are very long a fighter has just to Dash(fast running) devastate and mage will die,since stiffle dont works anymore at lvl 100(since figghter are using now attack increase

you 4get theres 2 branches of fighters...and one doesnt include dash as part of its skill list. i think you meant this:

are you sure?gladiator have to survive,first hit at mages at lvl100,whith spr in your gear and shield,its not so difficult to survive a lvl100 mage,since cds are very long a gladiator has just to Dash(fast running) devastate and mage will die,since stiffle dont works anymore at lvl 100(since gladiator are using now attack increase

:D


That's blasphemy, I've been owning higher level fighters since I got fear.. And, I could take down +9 BK fighters before they were nerfed .. It's all about timing and placement of skills.

kudos to you for actually knowing how to play your mage...im sure uve seen some of the whiners complaining about fighters