Pure SPR archer question

[Arayiz]

Hi All
Just wondering, as a Pure SPR Archer i know that i have to decrease the cool time of all my skills so i can spam them easily, therefore critical hitting more often. But i don't wanna put it in for Dots or any other skills, just skills like aim shot and power shot.
So my question is, should i increase the damage for these skills? or am i better off adding decrease cool time on my dots or doing something that i don't know of with em.
Cheers.
Ziano

[autchiewicz]

seeing how the dots have longer cooldowns and you can't crit on DoT damage :P,just do the power and aim shot,you only do anything with your dots if you intend on pvping,well most of the time

[Arayiz]

what about weapon choice, I've been told that a bow is better for pure spr archers simply because you can spam skills faster. IS this true?
Do u know?

[leobaloy]

you can do normal attacks more, more normal attacks = more chance for crit

and as for your empowerments
i suggest cooldown and damage on: Power Shot, Aimed Shot, Nature's Mist and Piercing Shot (or w/e the lv75 aoe is lmao, don't know the name cuz my archer is lv72 >.>)

and yes, definately use a bow

[aknrules]

xbow has higher crit and i dont think weapon has any effect on how fast u can use skills

[Arayiz]

BOW IT IS, simply because the guy who suggested bow gave a long proper explanation lolz, thx guys for the help,

[darthnish]

um yes bow is goo for 1 on 1 combat, but when kiting xbow's bae dmg just pwnsz

[Arayiz]

anything else i should know about the Pure SPR build?

[oyaccount]

One thing is for sure, if you're going Pure SPR build, you're gonna pwn mages in 1v1 or even the NPC mages in the abyss that can get really annoying, your crit & magic.defense will be awesome :) Take an advantage of that, and yes, use bow, since you hit more & faster with it, which increases the chance of a crit, and adding some spells between that is just okay ^,^
I wish you good luck on this build!

[Arayiz]

thx a bunch man, i noticed that in KQ's Magic monsters didn't hit me much:P,

[themichael]

You will eb a amge destroyer...

Massive Crits, Massive Mana pools, Massive M.DEF...
You'll also be a very desirable Party Archer aswell.

Solo will eb a bit harder for you due to the lack of Defense in the build, and also because your Mobs wont Die at the same time.

PvP-wise Fighters will eat you all up unless you get some lovly DEX gears.
Other SPR/STR Archers will a pain. DEX ones will fall to you quite easily though.
Mages...They wont have a chance.
And clerics...well...you cant kill them but they wont kill you.

Bow is usually better for PvP Vs another Archer/Mage.
But xBow is unmatched when you're kiting.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[Arayiz]

thx not planning on kiting and i am planning on having two sets of stat gear, str and dex

[Arayiz]

does gear with +spr increase your critical rate.
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[oyaccount]

Nope, you don't get crit for SPR on your gears, sorry, however you do get maxSP and nice magic defense, SPR only gets crit in the free stat, but not in gears ^^ I'd recommend STR / DEX / END gears or something :) Again, good luck.

[Arayiz]

thx mate, appreciate the help everyone. just got lvl 33, and man the Robo KQ is hard

[themichael]

Robo...i hated that KQ with a passion.

But i must warn you....51+ and 60+ for sure You WILL DEFINATLY be AoE kiting.

Thats what makes Archers Solo/PvE God(desses).


That'll also make you the most competent leveler of all the classes.

BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[organtino]

So if I go all SPR will I be PVP PVE viable? And can I go all Direct Damage abilities and still be good. I am trying to avoid getting alot of dot's.

I don't know much about this game sorry. And everyone I talk to says going all SPR is a horrible idea.

[themichael]

Honestly, I dont advise going all SPR.

SPR gives .2%Crit every point until 25.
at 26 it halves to .1%
at 51(i think..may be 61) it halves once more to .05%crit.

Therefore most Archers dont advise going past 25, but i say dont go past 50(maybe 60).

PvP wise...its possibly the worst build...plain and simple.

PvE-Party wise you will be Godlie, but You must Rememeber this is Crit chance, so you may crit those mobs to hell and kill faster tahn mages, or you may not get a single crit(whis will be very rare) and not kill fast at all.

PvE-Solo wise You will be sacraficing all the defenses you could get from DEX for Pure Crit DMG so Solo will be more difficult for you than your DEX counterparts.

To be honest... Direct DMG isnt the best. you will have to use DoTs because 5 of our 7 Attack skills are DoTs(until lvl 95) Archers aren't dependent on DoT for PvE but they can prove to be very useful.

At lvl 51 you will get a poison AoE skill that can be cast ont he run, with this skill you can solo the world. DoT skills arent only DoTs but they also have initial attack DMG by the way.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[Arayiz]

nah after 25 all the way to max lvl ist .1 of a critical %, which is worth it. and if you buy crit costumes with sc u own serious ***

[darthnish]

i did know one full spr archer he was 85 and he crited nearly every hit... but then again he hit for quite low so i was lik meh in pvp

In pve hower he used to draw aggro off INT mages, ah his screen must have been all purple foreva

[Arayiz]

Pure spr ftw!

[themichael]

nah after 25 all the way to max lvl ist .1 of a critical %, which is worth it. and if you buy crit costumes with sc u own serious ***


No it halves again at one point... either 51 or 61...

Do you rememeber which Ewo? ._.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[darthnish]

61 i think

[Arayiz]

oh well, still owns, with str/end gear:) LvL 35 today !, add me in game, teva, Ziano

[grecohawaii]

i did know one full spr archer he was 85 and he crited nearly every hit... but then again he hit for quite low so i was lik meh in pvp

In pve hower he used to draw aggro off INT mages, ah his screen must have been all purple foreva

Hay! D<
I am 86, thank you very much.

The thing you have to realize about a full spr archer is that we are not most archers. In PvE most archers live off survivability and massive kiting. While I can massively aoe kite in BR like a champ, it's much harder without T4 scrolls or a cleric. My damage was only low in PvP for reasons I will describe here:

Critical rate not a direct function. When you base your damage off str, it's simple, one more point of free stat str=one more point of damage. With free stat spr you are increasing the percent chance that you will deal greater damage. While this may not sound like such a desiralbe trait, you have to realize that, especially while aoeing, the chance for each crit is independant for each mob in the aoe.

In PvP, the reason why spr is not desirable is because of the size of your foe's defense. The damage a full spr archer will deal is easier to understand that for every point of defense less your opponent has, a normal person will gain an extra point of damage (to put the calculations simply). With spr, every point of defense your target has less of, you wind up recieving a proportion of damage equal to the percent chance of your critical happening higher than that of a normal archer times two. I think I rock about a 33-36% crit rate (it's been a while). So if a normal archer has like 24% crit and I have 34% crit rate. Let's say the base defense of our targets in BR is 1000 (an arbitrary number to be certain). Our kill rate might be comparable. But, if we hit something weaker with, say, 900 defense. The non-spr archer might hit for 100 more, but the spr archer will hit for 100+(100*.1*2). This is, of course, a percent chance for damage output to increase overtime, and since my percent chance is higher, there is a possibility that I will deal even more damage that I have just calculated.

It's a hard concept to understand, which is why not everybody approves of full spr as a viable build.

That all being said, I am coming back from my hiatus, and still out-aggro pure int mages :P

Also, before the BR nerf, I could single target kill faster than my friend who is a pure int mage (we tested primarily on cores at level 83).

My screen is ALWAYS purple. And when they added the shattered glass sound for crit, I was afraid my ears would pop.

Spr is viable as a build, but mostly for archers/mages. At this point, I'm fairly certain that a mage can do the build better, mostly because they won't see the negative effectgs of the build in pvp where opponents have full +9 gears (higher defense reverts the formula so that the spr user actually loses damage over time).

FULL SPR FTW~ <3

[Kurayamiblack]

I'm not into the idea of full spr. Once I get my spr to 25, I pack purple boots for crit, thunder weapons with good stats or blue weapons, and 2% crit earrings with the best stats I can find. Sinc eThunder weapons are 7% crit (9% foo xbows), that's 14 total crit (not including the boots). With the boots, that adds about 4-5% so with a bow I'll have 18-19 crit and 20-21 with an xbow. 20 on the dot with a blue bow and 5% boots, 22% if it's a blue xbow. This is good enough for me. I want to go END/DEX after that for optimum tanking ability (though it'll be a while before I'm decent at dodging, but I can take a hit pretty well until then... except from Fighters and Mages of course.