View Full Version : 2 things that sucks in pvp
bguthery
07-06-2009, 01:11 PM
1. mages spam 2 spells (that iv seen so far) the ice spell and the fire spell then they run like a baby and repeat.
2.people ask for 1 vs 1 when there facing 2 people and they dont listen and 2 vs 1 him but when its the other way around the next round there like please 1 vs 1 its not fair in 2 vs 1 yet last round they still 2 vs 1 the other guy
this was not to anger anyone(it should only anger the people who do what a said in the post)
also i dont have a mage so tell me if thats the only 2 spells they have(people who where in the pvp where on there second job)
teh.toxic
07-06-2009, 03:27 PM
1. Mages suck get over it, everyone finds a way to beat them some way or another.
2. Typically I don't care if the player asks for 1v1 (unless it's against a certain player they call upon). I'm saying that because if one is good enough one doesn't need 1v1, it's TEAM BATTLE people get over it NOT TAG TEAM BATTLE. If you want to 1v1 get your own room and play that, don't say it when your 1v4 or etc. you should look forward to the challenge of taking out a team :D
bguthery
07-06-2009, 05:10 PM
1. Mages suck get over it, everyone finds a way to beat them some way or another.
2. Typically I don't care if the player asks for 1v1 (unless it's against a certain player they call upon). I'm saying that because if one is good enough one doesn't need 1v1, it's TEAM BATTLE people get over it NOT TAG TEAM BATTLE. If you want to 1v1 get your own room and play that, don't say it when your 1v4 or etc. you should look forward to the challenge of taking out a team :D
i agree with you on the 1 vs 1 thing
doki_
07-06-2009, 05:23 PM
1st - Just wait when they have a teammate >.>
2nd - Hypocrite.It runs the game iMyself don't really mind being team'd just not spamm'd.
yang-to
07-06-2009, 05:26 PM
1) Don't think mages sucks because they spam spells. I have a summoner and have only 5 offensive spell( fire bolt, wind slash, ice, meteor, stone wall). I work in spam fire bolt + ice normally, stone wall against jumpers, meteor against groups and wind slash in rapid attacks. So, whats the problem?? That is all i can do =] if spam lead me onto victory, so be it.
By the way, spam is the problem? ok... Talk that for trappers! This guys spams more than anyone else. Even a newbie can spam with trappers. Buuuuut... mages ppl need TIME to spam ice + fire bolt. Its not as easy as it seems (well, spam with fire wall is lot easier... but, i talk to the summoner).
2) yeah... i hate thats guys. If urs ppl sucks, it isnt our problem xD
Obs: Sorry for my english. Im a brazilian folk and cant speak english very well =] hope u all understand my text.
yukkit
07-07-2009, 12:31 AM
Tips for spamming:
Mages:
Ice Fire:
Everybody knows ice fire, but you are doomed if the opponent block the ice and counter. If you don't know how to grab (I never grab on my Mage and it's still a great spamming machine), then avoid using this combo when you are face to face with an opponent, UNLESS there's a teammate behind you (but not so close that he'll be burned if your enemy use a fire attack), so he can counter your enemy's counter of your ice spell. Also, watch your enemy after the fire hit landed. Does he run away? Or does he jump over you or run behind you? If he does the latter two then turn around and do an ice + wind combo, it should kill him or bring him down to very low health.
Wind:
e.e spamming this is really fun in DM, it has low mp cost, try it.
Stone guard:
Pretty useless, I don't even have it on my hotkey. Why not use teleport and ice fire against jumpy enemies? If they know how to block that they certainly know how to counter earth guard.
Was meant to keep going into other classes, but got something to do. Maybe next time.
Other classes are capable of spamming too, so no moans!
doki_
07-07-2009, 04:33 AM
Other classes are capable of spamming too, so no moans!
Examples,please other than RougeJobs,Mage Jobs and Ice+Fire Skill.
Also,its'not the Spammin' annoyin' 'bout Mages.
Its the Damage mainly.
Think 'bout it.
Warrior/Archer hittin Ice+Fire. No one cares.It isn't that uberly "OmiGawd!I'm Dead!"
Mage hittin' Ice+Fire.Someone care.It is that uberly "CHEAP SPAMMIN' MAGE!"
yukkit
07-07-2009, 10:26 AM
Archers:
Weak attack - one of the best moves that an archer has. It's fast and it prevents your opponent from casting. It can only be broken effectively by a dash grab, which few ppl can master. Usually I would move forward while weak attacking, and ppl tend to block, so you can get close and grab them and do an ice fire. Weak attack spamming takes a bit of time to practice, I suggest you practice it while pve-ing, as some archer specialist told me. (I am only a rookie in archery, so feel free to correct me)
Of course archers ice fire damage cannot be equate to a mage's. They are for entirely different purposes. A Mage is a damage dealer, her role is to dish out damages, lower the opponents hp, while running away from mobs. Whereas archers are suppose to do at least the following three things:
Distract - say if there's a really powerful opponent who can take out practically half your team, as an archer you can utilize your weak attack spam and lure him away from the main clashing points and hold him off until your team gains an upper hand and then u can lure him back into your own teammates and gang!
Hinder - with the longest range in the game, an archer's job is to halt the enemy's movements. Yes, ice arrows do not deal much damage, but it's more difficult to block than an ice spell because of their range. Remember that as an archer you need to work as a team. Keep using ice arrows and your fellow mages and rogues would have more chances of obliterating your enemies.
Crowd control: archers are good at breaking apart a bunch of mages. Have two archers spam their various attacks, the mages would be immoblized and forced to break apart.
To play this game well you need to understand the roles of each classes in a team pvp, if you think that playing a Mage is the same as playing an archer, then... It'll be a hard journey.
Warriors do indeed fail unless your woody skills are perfected. But I strongly suggest that warriors upgrade to their 2nd classes before pvp-ing... Then they would also be spam-enabled.
Tell me if you need any more spamming strategies, it's hard typing on my phone so I type as succint as possible.
yukkit
07-07-2009, 10:34 AM
Oh, and duh, mages are easy to play but very hard to master. I can only think of 1 or 2 mages that are really really good at 1v1 (I mean those that use Mage as their main). It's not easy, 1v1 as a Mage.
doki_
07-07-2009, 02:11 PM
iMyself am new at Archery but iImproved quickly :]
Dash+Grab,yes but iSometime use Jump+Attack/Grab.
Oh,sorry 'bout the CellPhone. I'll keep it short ^ ^"
iDon't really analyze moves in Jobb'd PvP since iJust look for typical stuff.I'm just "Tactic" in Novice PvP mostly.
Eternal_Doom
07-07-2009, 02:30 PM
I love the way that you all forget about Merciless Strike. =|