Clerics, the good, the bad, the n00bish

[vvyrd]

This is just a general question to those that visit the forums, and most specifically, those that play Clerics.

There has been some pretty heavy bashing of various classes, and I think it is generally unfounded. It isnt the CLASS that has problems, I think its the biological element. The person sitting behind the keyboard.

Now I've partied with some absolutely awful clerics, but that was a rare occurance. Mostly they were new to the idea of how to help a team out most, and unlike what most appear to think, it isnt just sitting on their hands waiting for a chance to heal the meat-tank.

But for the most part, I guess you could say I was "blessed" (sorry, pun was too much to resist) to have partied with some really awesome Clerics in the past. They not only covered the healing, but they were right there with the tank, kicking in MOB teeth and taking names.

They knew when to back up instead of occuring aggro, or getting other MOBs to start attacking them... and I think the coolest part, when they did start attracting the monster's attention, they didnt start running in the opposite direction. That just leads to a monster-feeding frenzy, and the entire party being served up when they break formation...

Then of course, there are some Clerics that really are... well, they arent being n00bish, and they are rather... sinister I suppose. I've seen a few purposely break formation long enough to get one or two of the party to "die" while they pick up the good items, namely about the time when a boss is close to finished. A dead team member doesnt collect a share of the EXP after all...

Now the question is, who's more at fault? (concerning the rash of CLASS bashing) The newbie that doesnt know how to play, because they are new to the game, the decent party player, OR the cleric that goes around fudging up their party to take most of the exp for themselves?

And this is a message to everyone else reading this: Dont blame a CLASS for being ineffective. Blame the individual behind the keyboard. There are some really god-awful players out there, but mixed in to it all, are some really decent, friendly, and awesome people. They know how their character works, they are able to pull people together, AND they are able to work alone.

Stereotyping only leads to a game being ruined, innocent people getting attacked, and the fun being sucked out of a great thing.

V

[DrowMistress]

Thank you. >> I hope I'm one of the good clercs.

Some of my best friends are meat-tanks. ^^ I wuv meat-tanks. I also wuv getting in next to them and hitting things with my hammer. Stuff dies faster that way.

Do people really let thier party die to get EXP? That's horrible.

[nerdzo]

heh i hope im a gd cleric too. ahh this reminds, i was in a kq with 14 other ppl. and i was the only cleric >< had to heal like mad. then we lost because there wasn't any warriors, so no tank .___. ahhh. wait this is off topic ><
paiseh!

[farard]

There has been some pretty heavy bashing of various classes, and I think it is generally unfounded. It isnt the CLASS that has problems, I think its the biological element. The person sitting behind the keyboard.


absolutely correct trouble is that we all think of the CHR is responsible for bad play and not the USER, its something we have to live with. unless you are sitting next to the person in real life the CHR will always get the blame.

[babykitt10]

maturity...

being mature...

maturity is needed to be a good cleric(or player)...

Do you expect a 9yr old, out of school kid to drive you home from work, or to help you w/ your college subject?

I think not, maybe if that kid is a super kid, but we're being realistic here.

I've party some tanks, wizmage, archers who don't know how to do their job.

And if that happens the 1st thing I'll do is ask their age.

and guess what?

maturity = age
good player = mature
therefor
age = good players lol:p

so if you think that you're a great player then you are mature (I hope)

(but every rule has an exception;))

[Sheizou_Marizou]

maturity = age

That is officially the biggest load of bull I've ever heard in my life. Age is just a number, just because somebody is, say, 20, it doesn't make them mature (I once had a 25 year old cleric have me 'admit he did ma gf last night' before he would ress me.)

I'm 14.
Over and out.

[Gurkburk]

What I fail to see is why you first bother to point out that it's not the class that's at fault and then go on a long rant on which type of cleric is to blame for something I'm not really sure of. Now why even bother with that if the class is irrelevant in the first place?

[joecracker]

i am in there fighting too when i can, but i like to get massive exp, so sometimes i have to just heal 24/7, as the monsters are hard and if i am late on healing death to the tank!

[farard]

OK clear this up, all fighters, archers, mages and 90% of clerics are completely usless, unless you are a fighter, archer, mage or one of the 90% of clerics :-))))

[babykitt10]

That is officially the biggest load of bull I've ever heard in my life. Age is just a number, just because somebody is, say, 20, it doesn't make them mature (I once had a 25 year old cleric have me 'admit he did ma gf last night' before he would ress me.)

I'm 14.
Over and out.

Immature or a very childish act?

First of all if you read my whole post you wont find any certain "age", I didn't even say that 14 is immature am I right?

I said that if a 9yr old OSY is the one piloting the character can you expect something out of that? And I'm saying this BOME, sorry if I offend you...
It's your own perception that hit you not mine..

and i also stated that evry rule has an exception...?
and If you think that you're a good player then you're mature(then if you're not it's not my fault even if your are 50+)...

in every jungle der are snakes...

And about the 25yr old cleric... i don't even want to comment about that

and about this

maturity = age
good player = mature
therefor
age = good players lol:p

lol:p ring a bell? I used some rules in basic symbolic logic. sorry if you didn't understand (>< silly me)

good players = mature ?

So please don't be rude, after all this is just an opinion...

[Sheizou_Marizou]

Eh well I suppose it just came across wrong .___.

[SexyBeast12]

Yeah, I know what yah mean, I've partied with quite a few sinister clerics once in awhile, and a few of em have ruined a ton of KQ's. >_> But I still try to be the best I can be, even though I'm still rough on when to hit, when not to hit and the normal duties of a cleric. Questions, how do you make/edit/always atttach a sig? I've been wanting to put a sig in, but I'm not sure how to do it. (this is the one I want to put in there \/)


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[Semaj]

age has nothing to do with being a good player, class has nothing to do with being a good player. Its all about the persons maturity level (maturity isnt fully based on age), and the personality of the person sitting behind the key board.

even if a person makes a mistake, it happens, its all about those who want to become better and want to help the community.

[Semaj]

Yeah, I know what yah mean, I've partied with quite a few sinister clerics once in awhile, and a few of em have ruined a ton of KQ's. >_> But I still try to be the best I can be, even though I'm still rough on when to hit, when not to hit and the normal duties of a cleric. Questions, how do you make/edit/always atttach a sig? I've been wanting to put a sig in, but I'm not sure how to do it. (this is the one I want to put in there \/)


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[lazirusienca]

maturity...

being mature...

maturity is needed to be a good cleric(or player)...

Do you expect a 9yr old, out of school kid to drive you home from work, or to help you w/ your college subject?

I think not, maybe if that kid is a super kid, but we're being realistic here.

I've party some tanks, wizmage, archers who don't know how to do their job.

And if that happens the 1st thing I'll do is ask their age.

and guess what?

maturity = age
good player = mature
therefor
age = good players lol:p

so if you think that you're a great player then you are mature (I hope)

(but every rule has an exception;))

well i adapted to Maplestory when it was first released so... well then again there are no tanks, the only real "party" style character would be a cleric.

enough about that bull!@%# game :). Lets say we have a 13 year old player, who has been addicted to RPGs all his/ her life. I'm not saying they have to be awesome at rpgs I'm just saying they have to be used to the environment. Do you think if they partied with a 13 year old who has been playing single player shooters all his/her life that the RPG kid would have an advantage. It's not just age but experience, JUST like in the game :P. The more exp the better, and sometimes kids just start and they are still getting their experience in MMORPGs but some kids have already started playing RPGs and have a better grasp on the idea.


Ionno what I'm jabbering about really, maybe I;m onto something, maybe not.

[Brayl]

I am new here and I haven't created an avatar yet. I have decided on a celeric over a long debate and them I come here- now my view has swayed. Are celerics bad? Can they actually deal damage? I know I am kind of leaching off this topic and I am sorry. As said before I am lost.

[Adipocere]

No matter what game I play, I try to be a "good" cleric. This means a couple of things. First, if I have a buff, I use it for everyone in my group. Second, I may attack a mob, but my primary focus is always going to be keeping everyone upright even if it keeps me from fighting at all in some situations. Third, if we're FFA or Round Robin looting and something for a different class drops and is a NICE item, then, yes, I'm probably going to pass on it if someone from that class is in the group. Imho, having an alt is never a good excuse for being a loot hog when there are people in the party right then and there that can use an item. However, being a "good" cleric afaik is mainly doing the first two although I strongly suggest the third as well no matter what class you're playing. :)

[Amathyst]

After starting out as a fighter, I think I know how to be a good cleric, and while waiting for my fighter to be released from the bonds of server errors, I leveled my cleric up to 16 XD
Heh, on a side note, I was doing the Slime Kings Revenge KQ and we had 7 clerics, a level 15 fighter who didn't know how to tank, and we ended up having a level 10 mage tanking the king slime at the end XD We actually succeeded in the KQ as well ^.^
I would say that was good cooperative work for clerics :3

[Adipocere]

Aha! Which reminds me... My biggest impediment to being a useful cleric is people refusing to allow rest stops when I and usually others are out of sp... :(

Remember... it's literally impossible to heal if you have no sp....:eek:

[pheonixes5]

lol...
I think that age is completely irrelevant, however, maturity is.
Age does not influence maturity whatsoever.

Besides, a good cleric is in the eye of the beholder... Some people might prefer to have a cleric that eres on the side of caution. If the healer does die, who's left to heal the party??

Although I do fully agree with the fact that there are several idiots running around always telling others how to play their class. But I think that people's individual playing style is what makes an MMO fun.

[Bradleyman]

i myself have gotten both an archer and warrior to lvl 15 or higher. Yea i have had some kq experiances with the good,bad, or downright awesome lvl 5-9 clerics who didnt even ahve their buffs yet, but most clerics have great grasps on what the other classes r like, because they have playyed them to high lvles so they know wat to do better, but some clerics are just so dumb, retarted, or are jerks that they are up there with 300 health and 50 sp and trying to be a fighter :eek: or other things

[Balder]

I'll be honest with myself. Recently, I think about three or four days ago, I began for the first time as a healer. Though at the beggining, it feels like everyone's treating you nicely(of course, as long as you do your job), recently, in my 20's(lvl) I've started seeing waves of crappy people.

And you know what? This negativity almost turned me into them. The reason why I began as a cleric is because I just loved the idea of helping people. Feels real nice you know. Then out of nowhere there are some who think its like a neccessary obligation and they demand it without back talk.

I realized that I was turning like them when I began to become a little selfish in the game. It was only when a good player died on my party that I realized that this wasn't good.

My point is, sometimes, there are bad mannered people out there who don't realize their negativity is like a cancer.

Anyways, now I'm back to my cheery good self again. I've remade my cleric creed:

Heal the worthy ones, let the insolent ones die. THE END :-)

[xGreatDevilx]

I'm sure I am a good cleric, i usually die because i don't see my own life. I never let a tanker's life drop more than 1/2 unless its a 1 hit. Restore is my favourite too. XD

But recently stopped cause people would just walk by and say "Buff/Heal/Ress ME!"
got so irritated cause they were demanding me to do it

[Kiabosk]

IM a noob, just started yesterday... But man, Have any of ya been too preocupied healing someone u don't see your own health? :P Happened to me like 6 times.. FUNNY! But anyways.. You are right dude, heal the ones who worked and deserved it, and let the others die.. I love helpin people, and sometime I go to random people, and heal them if they are dying... I saved like 4 people from death..

[capron]

Depend on girl clerics then boy clerics LOL, girls mature faster then boys>.>

[capron]

Don't rely on clerics too much...they aren't your mother, they are here to support you and you are an individual...so beforehand you know better to bring stones and potions because sometimes lagg or some other type of problem might occur. You know that if you solo...YOU NEED YOUR
OWN SUPPLIES.

Great duos aren't always with a cleric because of their healing ablities....you can do that with your potions/stones. You know someone has to spend money either way..

cleric=sp stones
other class=hp stones and sp stones

Clerics=Are great in many ways and they give us less stress and support a lot. I love them and their Many special techniques they can cast in the game.:)

[darkeclpsedragon]

I suppose I can call myself fortunate, since I started Fiesta. (about 30s now) I've teamed up with mostly awsome people. They are very understanding that I'm not a mirical (sp?) worker and sometimes I do mess up. For the most part I've gotten compliments on how I do my job.

When it comes to rezing other people. I wont rez if that person is half a world away. It's just impossible for me to reach them in time, but if someone dies right infront of me or I happen to come across thier corpse on the path, I will rez them no harm no foul. Unless of course they are one of the those few jerks then no rezzy for them :cool:

If I do find myself teamed up with uncooprative party members or jerks, I just quit party and find someone else. It's not hard for a cleric to find a party in the more advanced areas like MT or CP.

[Kishuy]

well i'm a newbie to the game... but i very used to heal since i only play with healers in almost every game i play.

But there are people that think helling its very easy and don't pay attention to the party and only want drops/exp...

SO i think the best to do if find a good party and stick with it!

[Alp3r06]

This game VERY BAD ITEM UPGRADE SYSTEM!!!!!!!:mad::mad::mad:

[kraehe]

I would like to help otherwise than just stand still and heal, but the only times i really party are when i go after boss monsters meaning i need to be fully supportive because somehow i end up in a party where the other cleric does nothing leaving me to try and spam heal all i can or then archers and mages decide that it's okay to pull some more monster thinking that i'm NOT too busy healing the tank. Luckily i've gotten into some good partys too ^^

[Panzehao]

I try to keep as much people alive as i possable can in kq but sometime i can only watch the people in my partyT_T(wish everyone can be in the same party so i can see all their healthXD) I rez anyone i see that needs it b ue not ksers:p they need to dieXD

[calitz87]

Good, Bad , Noobish you tell me?

I was recruited for a party to kill mara. I was lvl 15 btw and
I think my pritty meat tank was lvl 19.

I stayed as close as I could without angering the agro pirate pions.

mara was taking away about half damage from the warrior and I was healing it back to full with each heal.

Then I see this player screaming like a mad man about how WE were about to kill mara he pulled a mob in front of the tank, she instantly died the mob then turned on me, as i slowly died i saw in the distance the evil player kill mara

Is there anything I could have done that could have changed this situation?

[pickled-witch]

'The good, the bad and the noobish' could apply to any class really, but I think it probably makes a bigger difference with clerics than any other. If you have a good cleric you can take on almost anything, a bad cleric and you're pretty much screwed, but get stuck with one of these malicious clerics that uses their 'powers' as a way of manipulating a party and I advise you to ditch 'em ASAP!

I'd like to think that I'm one of the good clerics, I used to play FLYFF a lot and working my way to a Lv57 Full Assist gave me a tone of experience when it come to managing a group taking heavy damage. when it comes to KQs I have the policy of 'heal many and heal often' meaning that I refuse to restrict my self to my own party, as I have seen many a cleric do. When it comes down to it, if one of the fifteen falls, then another two or three are sure to follow.

^ ^yay for mini speeches

Fayorie, High Cleric of Teva

[Jandalyn]

Well when you treat the low level cleric like crap just how do you expect them to want to help you once they have leveled up higher. To many times now I have seen the low level cleric kicked from parties in a KQ for the only reason that they are low level. Then there EXPECTED to keep the people who just kicked them healed and endure a rash of nasty comments the rest of the way thru the KQ. I took my mage to do the King Slime Quest today and watched this poor new cleric get invited to a party to which they instantly started healing everyone in it then get kicked from it once everyone was healed. Then the leader of the party harrased and made nasty comments to the cleric thru the rest of the KQ. But then that person was also saying that all clerics suk. I made sure that cleric knew that not all people are like that and not to give up. So before you go talking nasty about clerics how about looking at how you treat them first.

[donovanmill123]

That is officially the biggest load of bull I've ever heard in my life. Age is just a number, just because somebody is, say, 20, it doesn't make them mature (I once had a 25 year old cleric have me 'admit he did ma gf last night' before he would ress me.)

I'm 14.
Over and out.
:p omg i just read this post and now i am so gona do that to every1 that wants a rez lol jk : P

[Nickthehero]

Um...even people older are selfish and noobish, doesn't depend on age.

[ellimist91]

wow, I can't believe someone would let their team mates die....that is soooo infuriating :mad:
and Jandayln, thank you so much for being a nice person, I never get in parties in KQ, and i'm always told I'm a worthless noob, because I'm a low lvl cleric.....

[Nickthehero]

well if people treat clerics like that, they're losing advantages because clerics are the only healers of the game and buffers. Using a cleric like a mop to wipe all the dust around and kick it in the corner is immature and not respectful on cleric players.

[TinyHowie]

That is officially the biggest load of bull I've ever heard in my life. Age is just a number, just because somebody is, say, 20, it doesn't make them mature (I once had a 25 year old cleric have me 'admit he did ma gf last night' before he would ress me.)

I'm 14.
Over and out.

ROFLMAO

chill dude. LOL

[Marron]

I'm a pretty decent cleric, I think.. This is my first time taking on a healing class, but I'm putting it to pretty decent use. I normally solo when I can and while I'm out grinding, I generally heal the wandering players. I rarely get thank yous for it, but I guess I don't mind that much anymore. o:

When I'm in a party, I generally try to do my share of the damage. Besides, the faster we kill a monster, the less healing and SP wasting I have to do, you know? However, if I have a party member that's being a total jerk to me or is purposely taking too long to save me from aggros because I'm 'just the healer', I'll gladly leave those mobs on him and let him die with me.

:i I'm a cleric, not a saint.

[pickled-witch]

:i I'm a cleric, not a saint.


I'm sorry but that line is too cool to ignore, i may have to yoink it...YOINK!

[RanmaruX]

Aha! Which reminds me... My biggest impediment to being a useful cleric is people refusing to allow rest stops when I and usually others are out of sp... :(

Remember... it's literally impossible to heal if you have no sp....:eek:

That's what the SP stones are for.

However I tend to rest between heals depending on the situation.

If it's a AOE party for example then you can rest when the mobs are dead and the tank goes to gather more, but mainly it's using stones.

If it's just casual grinding with a good party then you can rest between heals not having to use any stones at all. (This is not always the case.)

Always have the maximum amount of SP stones with you, when you run out notify the party and if you can't keep rest healing then you have to go get more.

[generallee0012]

heh i hope im a gd cleric too. ahh this reminds, i was in a kq with 14 other ppl. and i was the only cleric >< had to heal like mad. then we lost because there wasn't any warriors, so no tank .___. ahhh. wait this is off topic ><
paiseh!

I was in a KQ just like that. but we had warriors and other clerics. only 2 other clerics and they didn't even have rez yet. so i was the one you had to bring back all the dead people after Mara and Marlone would kill them. also. everytime i'd heal the tanker. Mara and Marlone always tried coming at me. no matter where i stood. i survived thank god

[kira1211]

Hmm. I guess I'm an okay cleric. Sometimes my hand-eye cordination goes crazy and I don't heal dying party members fast enough and they die and I hav to rez.... And it makes me feel guilty. (Although not always. I don't feel that bad when mean ones die)
And I kinda hate it when other classes tell me to just heal and not help the tank hit and kill the monster faster so i don't have to heal as much >>.
But also other classes shouldn't depend too much on clerics. Cleric's aren't God and cannot be perfect healers. Although that really depends on the user, not the class itself.

[ShadowHero]

I'd say I'm generally a good cleric. Sometimes if someone is insulting me, bumping me off or making fun of me because I'm in a non pvp guild, I don't heal them as often, but I try to give everybody even chances. Plus, just helping people makes me feel good ^^ However, I agree with the others. If someone tells you jsut to heal and not to tank or starts swearing at you because a monster is attracted to your heal, then I leave them until around ten seconds left before rezzing. :/ Maybe I'm all of them. Who knows?

[Dreck]

There's post on cleric being mature or not, being good or bad, being usefull or not, being nice or not and so on...........

then, how you judge them then? how do you know whether the clerics are good or not?

[tsukibanii]

I was in a KQ just like that. but we had warriors and other clerics. only 2 other clerics and they didn't even have rez yet. so i was the one you had to bring back all the dead people after Mara and Marlone would kill them. also. everytime i'd heal the tanker. Mara and Marlone always tried coming at me. no matter where i stood. i survived thank god

same thing happened to me! though I forgot how many tankers we had.... when the first Mara came, almost half died and that when we realized we only had 2 clerics... me and this other one who hasn't leaned res yet. T.T... some people easily gave up (so much for having faith in us T.T) but us who stayed managed to win the KQ :3

I hope i'm one of the good clerics too though I admit i'm not yet 'that good' on healing and stuff..I try my best to keep my party alive and res them at once when they die (while being guilty and silently cursing myself) XP

[DarkAngelTsubasa]

Although i hav not reached e level of high cleric (stil stuck at lvl 19), i m always helpin ppl to survive thru their fights. I jus had KQ an hour ago or so, two apprentice n two high clerics in the party. Sadly, the entire group of ppl cant coordinate well. N we lost e KQ. Coz everyone is running all over the place. Havin clerics in a party is useful, but depends if e group knows how to coordinate.

[failedclown36]

ok....AGE IS A FACTOR of maturity... not the only factor but it does have something to do with it... age is not irrelevant to maturity

[failedclown36]

I'm sure I am a good cleric, i usually die because i don't see my own life. I never let a tanker's life drop more than 1/2 unless its a 1 hit. Restore is my favourite too. XD

But recently stopped cause people would just walk by and say "Buff/Heal/Ress ME!"
got so irritated cause they were demanding me to do it


IM a noob, just started yesterday... But man, Have any of ya been too preocupied healing someone u don't see your own health? :P Happened to me like 6 times.. FUNNY! But anyways.. You are right dude, heal the ones who worked and deserved it, and let the others die.. I love helpin people, and sometime I go to random people, and heal them if they are dying... I saved like 4 people from death..

lol yeah...this is the beginning of a good cleric ;) soon tho you will learn that you need to stay alive first and foremost...you can rez the tank who died and the rest of the party, but not if you yourself are eating the dirt ;)

[xoxoluvi3]

heh i hope im a gd cleric too. ahh this reminds, i was in a kq with 14 other ppl. and i was the only cleric >< had to heal like mad. then we lost because there wasn't any warriors, so no tank .___. ahhh. wait this is off topic ><
paiseh!


Lol.i hope i'm one of the good clerics too.i got the experience too though..the only cleric in KQ..Yeah..and we lose pretty badly cause no one tanks..neway when i was in KQ ppl usually order clerics only heals not fight.~_~ lol..but i still hit those monsters with my hammer.xD plus my party usually doesn't lose HP so i fight with them.xD

[Dry_Bones42]

I didn't think clerics actually let people die..O.o

Hopefully I'm not looked on like that...><

[khchoy3]

I'm not much of a bad cleric but neither am I the greatest cleric in the world, however i usually rez the ppl who ask kindly or other fellow clerics first or the more urgent ppl... but sometimes some noobs die and they're like 'REZ ME, rez me~' or some noob fighter dies in mara and goes 'Rez~' <- over and over again and guess where did he stand?

_TN
_M_
_B_

If mara was the M, and tanker was T and all the rest of us are at B he would be near position N and then he would ask for a rez and when get rez, u know what happen? slack untill FULL hp just to die again...waste of SP to rez him...

[khchoy3]

...btw i just got my cleric to lvl 25 yesterday...got addicted to using the hp recovery thing on random ppl ^^ ...
clerics intuition?

[lunerlilly]

Thank you. >> I hope I'm one of the good clercs.

Some of my best friends are meat-tanks. ^^ I wuv meat-tanks. I also wuv getting in next to them and hitting things with my hammer. Stuff dies faster that way.

Do people really let thier party die to get EXP? That's horrible.
i do agree that is messed up to let your party die! i love to heal! I do it for people wheather they ask me to or not. I also worked very hard to get my revival spell to bring others back. I know how annoying it is to die when you nearly finished the mission so i want to help by bringing that person back and reviving them. I'm sorry to hear that such actions are happaning in the game...

[XelveX]

Please, let this thread die!!!

[Hasbullah]

its nt about age..its about experienced,sumtimes a 11 year old kid r better in maths than a 20 yrs old kid..so sumtimes its age..bt usually its how much interest n experience u hv in dat game?..the more interest u hv..the more focus u r in dat game..n at the same time the more powerful u want ur char to be..dats wat i believe

[PocketPope]

maturity...
maturity = age
good player = mature
therefor
age = good players lol:p

so if you think that you're a great player then you are mature (I hope)

(but every rule has an exception;))

Sozzles my young 14 year old Brother...

Sadly, the young lady is right - Age = your newbish level...

of course you can find some rippa 12 year old children who are child prodigies... But the amount of them I can find/see/count is pretty much... oh wait, none?

Older you get, the usually more common sense you possess and general awareness is unparalleled by my 12 year old buddies.

Signing off an 18 year old (very mature) old washed up gamer...

and yes... I was once a 12 year old playing Runescape...

[kirayagami]

i think you people are taking this to serious its just a game the world wont end because there are some noobs, and as they said its not the class its the person behind the computer. i have seen some mage on the front line where the warriors are suppose to be xD

i dont agree with the age and mature stuff people saying here.

5 days ago i found a cleric lvl 32 on sea of greed he saw me die once then when i get back to the area he protect me while i lvl up he didnt ask for party he just did it for free, when i asked his age he told me he was 14.

[Kuroske]

I mainly focused on my Mage and Fighter until now
but decided to start a Cleric I been having fun so far with it
and its good to help people
but what i dislike is that these little noobish ksers and looters kept swarming around me and other freshly made Clerics and trying to steal our kills
and then laughing about it
they are lucky this game doesn't have a pk'ing system
or id use my mage and blast every last one of em into kingdom come over and over again

[Myn19]

i think you people are taking this to serious its just a game the world wont end because there are some noobs, and as they said its not the class its the person behind the computer. i have seen some mage on the front line where the warriors are suppose to be xD

i dont agree with the age and mature stuff people saying here.

5 days ago i found a cleric lvl 32 on sea of greed he saw me die once then when i get back to the area he protect me while i lvl up he didnt ask for party he just did it for free, when i asked his age he told me he was 14.

I'm 14 too and sometimes when I'm not in a party and I see alot of players around me sometimes I pick someone to occasionaly heal out of boredom.And I'm glad they thank me and don't depend on me all the time.

I was once in a party with 3 mages and a fighter.They were all DD. X_X
And they all decided to pick a different target.(double X_X)
I didn't know who to heal first since they all had kinda the same Hp.

I have a 2:1 END/SPR build so I could tank and I tried to attract the monsters attention while I healed myself and the partymembers.But after I managed to save a few members they continued attacking different targets.And they didn't use HP potions.(triple X_X)
In my panic I forgot to heal myself so I died...thus my partymembers died.
What I wanted them to do was speed up the killing and let me tank....but I didn't tell them :o .So my message is:

TELL YOUR PARTY WHAT YOU CAN DO AND WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO DO!!!

THEY CAN'T READ YOUR MIND!!!

[MiDoElBaShA]

just like all games
some people think that 1 job is good and another job is bad
but we all know that the person controlling that char is the bad / good dude / girl.

i've also met clerics who actually wanted to ruin the hunting / KQ,
they go and lure both mara and marlone in mara and they would hit instead of heal at king slime KQ. 1 time in mara i used all my hp potions and more than 30 stones. while other times i used none.
but it's normal to meet good and bad people in every job.