Making fiesta the perfect MMO

[cherhell]

Basically just state what ur likes and dislikes about fiesta and any ideas u have on how OS can improve fiesta. To me fiesta is one of the best f2p mmo's out there. The gameplay is really easy, the graphics are unique and the community is entertaining. what i dont like is OS having so many rules and i dont like their whole shoot first ask questions later attitude when it comes to banning or suspending accounts ( we all should keep in mind there's two sides to every story). As for improvements, i think they should have all skills fully cool down upon death. When collecting quest they should have npc literally talk to u and also for high lvl players they should create server FBZ to keep the game interesting lol

[roonthehax]

Likes - Me.
Dislikes - You.
Improvements? - My offspring.

[Bueawa]

Not gonna happen :), OS can't do anything, the patches comes from OnsOnSoft, OS just gets the patches delivered and Cleans and Translats everything, basicly.

[pokemon4955]

Likes:
-Skills at lvl 100
-Quest
-Uniqueness of each class
-Grinding
-Personalize your character
-Guilds


Dislikes:
-Wars
-Rivals
-Enemies
-fbz1..
Its a chain reaction people.Some strong player goes in.------>Most people gang on him/her. ----->She/He gets mad.--->she/he gona use charm.---->he/she died---->got mad/pisss off--->calling back up guildies----->come to rescue--->kill the people who gang on him/her---->then guild war.

-Kockyness-keep in mind,that most fighters are. And the least are archers/cleric
-Friendly Guild war which ofcourse,people hate to be dying,so some will charm which will later turned into an intense guild war.
-Friend List
This goes back to fbz1.After that chain thing happen.Guild war,then your friend happen to be in the same guild as your enemy.They get pisss off--->they delete you.And most deletions just caused of inactivity.Which others think they delete them as a friend.

Improvements
-Dont leave out most of the good skill 100+ when korean has it.
Cleric
-Reverse Order-95-Disable your opponent to use skills for a limited time.
-Extinquish-100-Hurl your enemy down with crystals pillars that damages opponents and decreases their strength for amount of time.

Mage
-Lightning aoe-100-Strike down an affected lightning area.

Thats about it.

[swoger9493]

I agree. Sadly it's true ;-;

[pokemon4955]

so like 67 views n only 5replies n no1 give a damn opinion =.=

[Bueawa]

True......

[zeroxcool]

1)more quests for the higher lvl players
2)global friends list so you don't have to add every char of a friend to your list

[cherhell]

Not gonna happen :), OS can't do anything, the patches comes from OnsOnSoft, OS just gets the patches delivered and Cleans and Translats everything, basicly.

if this is the case, i kinda see y things move so slow in terms of gettin anything fix in fiesta

[ras-blackfire]

Likes - Me.
Dislikes - You.


agree x3
10char

[cherhell]

Likes:
-Skills at lvl 100
-Quest
-Uniqueness of each class
-Grinding
-Personalize your character
-Guilds


Dislikes:
-Wars
-Rivals
-Enemies
-fbz1..
Its a chain reaction people.Some strong player goes in.------>Most people gang on him/her. ----->She/He gets mad.--->she/he gona use charm.---->he/she died---->got mad/pisss off--->calling back up guildies----->come to rescue--->kill the people who gang on him/her---->then guild war.

-Kockyness-keep in mind,that most fighters are. And the least are archers/cleric
-Friendly Guild war which ofcourse,people hate to be dying,so some will charm which will later turned into an intense guild war.
-Friend List
This goes back to fbz1.After that chain thing happen.Guild war,then your friend happen to be in the same guild as your enemy.They get pisss off--->they delete you.And most deletions just caused of inactivity.Which others think they delete them as a friend.

Improvements
-Dont leave out most of the good skill 100+ when korean has it.
Cleric
-Reverse Order-95-Disable your opponent to use skills for a limited time.
-Extinquish-100-Hurl your enemy down with crystals pillars that damages opponents and decreases their strength for amount of time.

Mage
-Lightning aoe-100-Strike down an affected lightning area.

Thats about it.

competition breeds drama so thats y i never did really understand the term "friendly guild war"....drama is the nature of the beast with fiesta. As for them leaving out certain lvl 100 class skills... i dont think its that bad as long as they are added in the next cap raise...it gives u something to look forward to.

[pokemon4955]

hm.......................this version n korean are very very different,outspark nerf aloooooooooooooooooooooot of things like dmg but idk ...idk why they cant just copy the exact replica of onsonsoft patch n bring it hereeeeeeeee

n bout skill i mean it took outspark 2years to release lvl 60 T3 cure for clerics.Now they want us to wait 3years more for Reverse Order and Extinquish?gahhhhhhhhh thats the two powerfulest skill in pvpppppppppppppppppppppppp x; might i say so myself i was very disappointed that no skill at lvl 95 for reverse order._.id give outspark some credits..at least they still not removed the dispel purge for clerics which im happy

edit; what i think fiesta is bottom line,if u want to get known,u lvl lmfao.

[DemonBlitzKragor]

Jerry, i barely level and i'm known. >.o

[pokemon4955]

thats because you stalk forummmmmmmmmmmmmm

[jadedeepfire]

Fiesta the perfect mmropg?LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

You made my day,anyways.

Like : To be honest,nothing.
Dislike : Outspark staff,How overpriced SC is,how overpowered fighters are,how weak mages and archers are,the quantity of bugs with out fix in game,how gms are careless about players problems,*the lag*.
I could keep on going but im just lazy.

[c8itlyn]

Not gonna happen :), OS can't do anything, the patches comes from OnsOnSoft, OS just gets the patches delivered and Cleans and Translats everything, basicly.

Wrong!!!
It's defeatist attitudes like this that OS want us to have. They can do things and have done things in the past.
Remember the blood animation with the crit? They got that changed VERY quickly as soon as they realised that it was affecting their crit suit sales. Irrefutable proof that OS can get things in the game changed, sad thing is at the time it seemed like they would only actually do it when it started affecting their precious cash shop. But that was until........

The next thing they done was added the unblock feature. That was because of mass demand from the community. Irrefutable proof that OS are starting to turn a new leaf and listen to what we want.

They did take a massive step backwards with the item dupe glitch thing by punishing the whole community with a rollback (a necessary evil) then rewarding the only people who could have possibly been offenders (SC users) with an extension on their time limited items:mad::mad::mad: despite calls from the community for the actual offenders to be punished separatelyI will never let yous let that one slide into obscurity OS:mad:. Trust took a serious kick in the proverbial teeth that day. But....

Recently, this thread http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203175 had a lot of ideas and suggestions taken from it and implemented. In particular the issues addressed about the low feedback and lack of staff presence ingame.

Also several threads about KQ leeching later we now have a minimum kill count and from time to time a GM has been dropping into KQ's to actively search for leechers.

A glass is half empty attitude does absolutely nothing for us. OS are listening to us more and more now and trying, it seems, to do the things we want them to do in tandem with doing the things that they want to do. It's starting to work now.

So with this in mind, what I think will help to make Fiesta the perfect MMO is a lot more threads and posts and tickets submitted and whatever other means are possible to tell OS what we want from Fiesta. But for this to be more successful we also need a lot less people believing that there is nothing we can do to get things changed and a lot more trying to get things changed.

[cherhell]

Fiesta the perfect mmropg?LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

You made my day,anyways.

Like : To be honest,nothing.
Dislike : Outspark staff,How overpriced SC is,how overpowered fighters are,how weak mages and archers are,the quantity of bugs with out fix in game,how gms are careless about players problems,*the lag*.
I could keep on going but im just lazy.

i do at times question the purpose of having any type of GM's in fiesta...ask urself this if fiesta never had any type GM's from the start, would the game be any different then how it is right now. So what real purpose do they have? My point is GM's are rarely online to begin with so to me they are redundant.

[karvaj]

Dislike: sc store, if they would make the game to get sc for free or something (no not with the offers) would be bettur .-. and would give more chance
Likes: the "community".. thats actually funny

[jadedeepfire]

i do at times question the purpose of having any type of GM's in fiesta...ask urself this if fiesta never had any type GM's from the start, would the game be any different then how it is right now. So what real purpose do they have? My point is GM's are rarely online to begin with so to me they are redundant.

Dakkon was win.
'Nuff said

[Sesshomaru]

Likes:
-The community (before the sc corrupted/pvp kq era :o )
-current balance and attempt to give each class versatility like a dd fighter to a tank fighter.
-I love the idea of Kingdom Quests
-chars look awesome :o
-That cap raises come so its not like lvl 105 was released since first day so people could sweep through the game like any random video game.
-It's ability to get people addicted lol
-suits(not for crit/def or WHATEVER, just change in look), wedding, monarch, academy, beauty coupon etc.


Dislikes:
-Almost everything sc related is a double edged sword >.>
-The usual/common errors/bugs with walls and disconnecting and whatnot.
-exp cards :o
-how honeying kq is still too freakin hard XD (yes i've seen all those threads about honeying clear time blah blah but if you were to go in every now and then you'd see a great majority fail)
-9x needs quests :o
-Abyss/pvp KQ could use some tweaking can't think of what though atm.
-Hardly any gm's online like there used to be. Back in the day there were gm's all over the place buffing people and whatnot, hosting events in elderine daily
-Some days i feel OS advertisements and server announcements spam me more than gold/plvl spammers.
-SC ruined the pvp side of the game, but hey OS is a corporation right, a business.
-SC and PVP don't go well hand in hand bottom line. You could be a decent lvl 100 and can get scrubbed out by a full charm full +9 lvl 90



AND [GM]GUNTRIX/FUNTRIX was best gm evar :o

[leobaloy]

Dislike: sc store, if they would make the game to get sc for free or something (no not with the offers) would be bettur .-. and would give more chance
Likes: the "community".. thats actually funny

then this game would have to be P2P, otherwise....no money for them, and a business not making money is kinda...fail?

[cherhell]

Likes:
-The community (before the sc corrupted/pvp kq era :o )
-current balance and attempt to give each class versatility like a dd fighter to a tank fighter.
-I love the idea of Kingdom Quests
-chars look awesome :o
-That cap raises come so its not like lvl 105 was released since first day so people could sweep through the game like any random video game.
-It's ability to get people addicted lol
-suits(not for crit/def or WHATEVER, just change in look), wedding, monarch, academy, beauty coupon etc.


Dislikes:
-Almost everything sc related is a double edged sword >.>
-The usual/common errors/bugs with walls and disconnecting and whatnot.
-exp cards :o
-how honeying kq is still too freakin hard XD (yes i've seen all those threads about honeying clear time blah blah but if you were to go in every now and then you'd see a great majority fail)
-9x needs quests :o
-Abyss/pvp KQ could use some tweaking can't think of what though atm.
-Hardly any gm's online like there used to be. Back in the day there were gm's all over the place buffing people and whatnot, hosting events in elderine daily
-Some days i feel OS advertisements and server announcements spam me more than gold/plvl spammers.
-SC ruined the pvp side of the game, but hey OS is a corporation right, a business.
-SC and PVP don't go well hand in hand bottom line. You could be a decent lvl 100 and can get scrubbed out by a full charm full +9 lvl 90



AND [GM]GUNTRIX/FUNTRIX was best gm evar :o

i do feel the same way about OS forcing their sc products in ur face constantly while ur just trying to play fiesta. The truth of the matter is that its annoying hearing about whats new on sale in the fiesta store every 15 min and probally twice as annoying for thoses people that cant afford or choose not to use sc.

[pokemon4955]

Likes:
-The community (before the sc corrupted/pvp kq era :o )
-current balance and attempt to give each class versatility like a dd fighter to a tank fighter.
-I love the idea of Kingdom Quests
-chars look awesome :o
-That cap raises come so its not like lvl 105 was released since first day so people could sweep through the game like any random video game.
-It's ability to get people addicted lol
-suits(not for crit/def or WHATEVER, just change in look), wedding, monarch, academy, beauty coupon etc.


Dislikes:
-Almost everything sc related is a double edged sword >.>
-The usual/common errors/bugs with walls and disconnecting and whatnot.
-exp cards :o
-how honeying kq is still too freakin hard XD (yes i've seen all those threads about honeying clear time blah blah but if you were to go in every now and then you'd see a great majority fail)
-9x needs quests :o
-Abyss/pvp KQ could use some tweaking can't think of what though atm.
-Hardly any gm's online like there used to be. Back in the day there were gm's all over the place buffing people and whatnot, hosting events in elderine daily
-Some days i feel OS advertisements and server announcements spam me more than gold/plvl spammers.
-SC ruined the pvp side of the game, but hey OS is a corporation right, a business.[/b]
-SC and PVP don't go well hand in hand bottom line. You could be a decent lvl 100 and can get scrubbed out by a full charm full +9 lvl 90



AND [GM]GUNTRIX/FUNTRIX was best gm evar :o [/b]

While you and others may think this is a great thing to release more quest but as outspark said starting 90+ it will be hard.And it will be unfair to other players who've reached to 100+ while other brand new players just hit 105 easily by just doing the quest and repeats.As much as I do not want more quest to be released for 90+,I have a guess that Outspark will do it in the future for their cash shops is decreasing so they will absolutely do anything to maintain their player buying cash shops running.

[karvaj]

then this game would have to be P2P, otherwise....no money for them, and a business not making money is kinda...fail?
its a free game isnt it?=_= shouldnt add stuff for irl money, in my opinion

[pokemon4955]

Free to play game 'tis indeed.But cash shop is optional.Meaning you don't have to buy it to play the game.

[leobaloy]

its a free game isnt it?=_= shouldnt add stuff for irl money, in my opinion

Free to play game 'tis indeed.But cash shop is optional.Meaning you don't have to buy it to play the game.

Jerry said what I would have said 8D

[cherhell]

Free to play game 'tis indeed.But cash shop is optional.Meaning you don't have to buy it to play the game.

this is true no one have to buy sc but i have notice a couple of lvl 100 player have stopped grinding to lvl at lvl 100...i think the answer to the question of why they stop grinding once reaching lvl 100 will make u doubt " is this really a f2p mmo" or is this the smartest cover a p2p mmo could ever have lol

[jadedeepfire]

Free to play game 'tis indeed.But cash shop is optional.Meaning you don't have to buy it to play the game.

I Lol'd.
Try get to lvl 100 with out sc :]

[pokemon4955]

I Lol'd.
Try get to lvl 100 with out sc :]

Now.I did not say you cant lvl without sc.Of course you can but it will take time.For those who want fast,they prefer to buy cs.
Now.Sc was not introduce until late 59 cap raise.Keep that in mind :3People mostly depend on lvling back then with quest and aew and no cs required until they introduced.
Hm and in case you did not know, I was not a sc user until 78^^So,it is possible to lvl without sc :] just required MORE energy.
this is true no one have to buy sc but i have notice a couple of lvl 100 player have stopped grinding to lvl at lvl 100...i think the answer to the question of why they stop grinding once reaching lvl 100 will make u doubt " is this really a f2p mmo" or is this the smartest cover a p2p mmo could ever have lol

Most people stop for their goal is only to reached 100 for prestige class and just chillax.Although some prefer to cap now since they want to finish what they have started.I just stop.
but idont know..
Or ..most people just want to hit 100 for the "cool" skill and just retired their char.And work on other alt to get to 100 as more cool skill.Thats what im doing lmao

[jadedeepfire]

I didnt use sc till i was lvl 60 too so i know,and i know but try to grind lvl 90-105 with out sc please.
Because all friends that are lvl 91 quitted duo dont have sc,they all said the same

'Grind with out exp card is impossible man,i give up''

And talking about ''MORE ENERGY'' you mean dont sleep?Mostly of people who plays has school or work yah know,we cant be all day sitted playing.

[pokemon4955]

Mhm which its why this a game for fun not meant more stress

[karvaj]

I didnt use sc till i was lvl 60 too so i know,and i know but try to grind lvl 90-105 with out sc please.
Because all friends that are lvl 91 quitted duo dont have sc,they all said the same

'Grind with out exp card is impossible man,i give up''

And talking about ''MORE ENERGY'' you mean dont sleep?Mostly of people who plays has school or work yah know,we cant be all day sitted playing.
lol drop it.. jerry cant understand because he uses a tons of sc :/

[jadedeepfire]

Lol,i thought that ^^

[Tamlinari]

Even if they could change it which way would they go?
Some people want it to be a ripoff clone of every other on line game and have PVP on every map and have the players who are killed drop their prized weapon or armor for the PKer to claim as their own.

Others want it to be more of a social meeting place where they can meet people and hang out with their friends on line and not be harassed and killed all of the time.

Personally I liked Fiesta the way it was before Outspark got the idea that they could make more money faster by creating conflict between players over the Abyss.

So what exactly is it that constitutes a "Perfect MMO" when you can't make everyone happy?

[Erevan]

Well, the idea of the thread was to give suggestions for OS. So lets go there:

I like:
- Friends;
- KQ and Quests that do not demand too hard to find items;
- Maps with mazes and traps;
- Instance Maps;
- Girls in pretty dresses;
- Good drops;
- Sets of clean armour;
- Monsters that look like monsters;
- Medieval Thematics and Military Orders;
- Mobs that help each other and show some kind of "intelligence" (yet to see...).

I dont like:
- Maps with few good places to grind;
- Lack of Quests in lvl 90+;
- Difficulty to level in alchemy;
- Boys in "pretty" dresses or naked;
- Crappy drops (in 12 greens, all bad?);
- Childish thematics;
- Monsters that do not look like monsters;

I am sure OS is capable to influence the creator of the game on this issues.

[pokemon4955]

i agree tamlinari o:

[leobaloy]

I didnt use sc till i was lvl 60 too so i know,and i know but try to grind lvl 90-105 with out sc please.
Because all friends that are lvl 91 quitted duo dont have sc,they all said the same

'Grind with out exp card is impossible man,i give up''

And talking about ''MORE ENERGY'' you mean dont sleep?Mostly of people who plays has school or work yah know,we cant be all day sitted playing.

i didn't have sc till lv73, and all i did was buy a beauty coupon back then :c..

and grinding w/o a exp card isn't impossible, its slow, but possible c:

[jadedeepfire]

Trust me is impossible because you give up before you can lvl,just ask people.

[cherhell]

i cant speak first hand about lvling without sc but i do think its depressingly hard to even try, cuz ur just wasting ur time in my opinion ( u grind 5-6 hours to gain 1% just to see that 1% gone when u die). how can fiesta be considered a f2p mmo when none sc players are either gonna quit playing or be indirectly force to buy sc due to the fact that lvling is so hard.

[darkmidday]

I feel like i can't lvl anymore, so i wish more quests for high lvls, more repeatable quests, i wonder why there no quests for KQ anymore. I hate grinding, it's so boring. Especially if you are cleric. I also want more events for Fiesta, involving GMs. And for players who like to solo personal dungeons or something like personal KQ o.o would be fun.

I remember when i was lower lvl was hard to make money, since mobs don't drop any :mad:

Some more producing skills, like armor/weapon creating with random stats. So we have something to do besides lvling. I'd like to have pet that can gain exp and help me fighting, or at least give bonus def/m.def and increase it with lvls, and maybe with bonus bag :rolleyes:

lol I think it possible only in my dreams, i would love Fiesta even more with all those innovations. And atm i have to quit because i can't lvl my chars anymore :(

[karvaj]

I like your dancin anime chick in your sig o.o
and shes also right, I already gave up on leveling lmao, I prefer levelin my alts.. its fun and I meet a tons of new people ;o

[kaleetos]

Wrong!!!
It's defeatist attitudes like this that OS want us to have. They can do things and have done things in the past.
Remember the blood animation with the crit? They got that changed VERY quickly as soon as they realised that it was affecting their crit suit sales. Irrefutable proof that OS can get things in the game changed, sad thing is at the time it seemed like they would only actually do it when it started affecting their precious cash shop. But that was until........

The next thing they done was added the unblock feature. That was because of mass demand from the community. Irrefutable proof that OS are starting to turn a new leaf and listen to what we want.

They did take a massive step backwards with the item dupe glitch thing by punishing the whole community with a rollback (a necessary evil) then rewarding the only people who could have possibly been offenders (SC users) with an extension on their time limited items:mad::mad::mad: despite calls from the community for the actual offenders to be punished separatelyI will never let yous let that one slide into obscurity OS:mad:. Trust took a serious kick in the proverbial teeth that day. But....

Recently, this thread http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203175 had a lot of ideas and suggestions taken from it and implemented. In particular the issues addressed about the low feedback and lack of staff presence ingame.

Also several threads about KQ leeching later we now have a minimum kill count and from time to time a GM has been dropping into KQ's to actively search for leechers.

A glass is half empty attitude does absolutely nothing for us. OS are listening to us more and more now and trying, it seems, to do the things we want them to do in tandem with doing the things that they want to do. It's starting to work now.

So with this in mind, what I think will help to make Fiesta the perfect MMO is a lot more threads and posts and tickets submitted and whatever other means are possible to tell OS what we want from Fiesta. But for this to be more successful we also need a lot less people believing that there is nothing we can do to get things changed and a lot more trying to get things changed.

COMPLETELY agree. OS is doing better, but we need to collectively and actively show our interest in what changes need to be made! Use the ticket system! Post on Forums... A LOT. They will listen if they see it isn't just one person's pipe dream. If you think a class needs a skill. RALLY EM UP AND REQUEST. MAKE PETITIONS. You will see that OS responds when enough people make themselves heard (just look at what happened recently with the lvl 45 purples).

[cherhell]

does anyone think the system of shoot first ask question later when it comes to suspending or banning accounts is fair by OS. Basically what they do is suspend or ban anyones account after hearing one side of the situation...i think a new system needs to be put into place that gives all a fair chance at defending themselves before getting their account suspended or banned