Fiesta is all about money now?

[mystikoo]

Abyss
I remember the good old times, when you could sit around in fbz/abyss and have a fight with some person once in a while. Ofc this was before the kps came.
Why the hell did they even put kp in the game?
And if it was in an attempt to make more people happy, why is it still here? Cuz im pretty sure that nobody in the game atm thinks this is good.
Except the no lifers that practically lives in abyss ofc.
And now you need charms, ext, sc pots, a sc pet, a sc cover for your +9 wep, +9 blues and a sc suit to just go in there and have a fair fight.

Wth
Do we really want it to go this far? Do we have to fill the sc spots in our inventory 100% to survive 2 min in abyss/fbz or in a pvp kq.
I'm tired of this, when i cant enjoy a simple game without using a bunch of IRL money i get annoyed.

Kp/yerk leaderboards
This gotta be the stupidest thing OS has ever sat into the game, and the excuse was some **** like this : You take a risk when you go into abyss, and with the godly exp it needs to be a catch.
You dont need to be a ****ing spaceship engineer to understand that all the spamkilling in abyss is cuz of the leaderboards. I think i read something about keeping the forums clean and the GM's had some thing so the forums would be cleaner. What about starting with the removing of the kp leaderboards?
Oh right they wont remove it. Cuz the kp leaderboards is the biggest moneymaker they have atm.

Money
I understand the whole, They need to get money some way.
But still, ruining the game for all the people that dont wanna use 100 dollars a month at sc in the process!?
Gifts
I dont really know if gifting is a good thing. sure, it gave the people without a credit card and alot of phone money the chance to get sc. And after being scammed maybe three times they finally get theyre suit and the mover or something. My point here is, gifting has rised the scam in fiesta greatly. I wouldnt wanna buy gifts from someone i dont know, but you can take the risk if you want to.

Quit
This is the reason i now quit, and im sure alot of people has already and will quit some time the next months, cuz fiesta is at the worst stage i have seen a mmo game in atm.

GM's
I think the only thing they will do after seeing this tread is banning me.
If anybody out there is still hoping for the producers to change this, so the pkers quit spam killing, and you dont need to charm in a pvp kq to win over the sc nubs. Just forget about it, they wont remove one single thing if it leads to them losing money.

To the GM who reads this : Ban me now, so i dont need to see pathetic outspark and your games ever again:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
This is not a quit thread -.- i just happened to mention it

[drigr_x]

Quit
This is the reason i now quit, and im sure alot of people has already and will quit some time the next months, cuz fiesta is at the worst stage i have seen a mmo game in atm.
Well this got the thread closed. Quiting threads are against the rules so GL with discussing any of this.



To the GM who reads this : Ban me now, so i dont need to see pathetic outspark and your games ever again:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
You can just uninstall it you know... That will free up 10GB+ of space on your comp. And if you really do quit, please don't be the Fiesta quiter that stays on forums to bash OS.

Hope you enjoy your life on another game:D

[Stacey]

Before it gets closed, good luck whereever you go. :)

[mystikoo]

Well, its not a quit thread, i just happened to say that i quit inside of it.:p
I cant do that?

[erick-]

Well, its not a quit thread, i just happened to say that i quit inside of it.:p
I cant do that?

This is actually the definition of a quit thread. No, you cannot do that.

[mystikoo]

The point of my thread isn't that i quit, but i want people to know why im angry and reply on how you feel about this cases :D But also a way for me to get banned.
And just writing ban me at the end would have looked weird that's why i added that i also will quit now

[ShonenHero]

And if you really do quit, please don't be the Fiesta quiter that stays on forums to bash OS.

This is true, I`m gonna quote it so that it appears twice in the thread.

All the best~!

[Plushii]

Didn't even read all that, but I'm sure I agree on most things with you :)
But greed is in human nature, they try to make as much money as they can even if some things are a complete rip-off.

However they forget that if they keep increasing the sc prices less people will buy them, so instead of making more profit they'll lose it.

To many threads have been made on this subject, nothing changes.

[zipiouch]

Gifts
I dont really know if gifting is a good thing. sure, it gave the people without a credit card and alot of phone money the chance to get sc. And after being scammed maybe three times they finally get theyre suit and the mover or something. My point here is, gifting has rised the scam in fiesta greatly. I wouldnt wanna buy gifts from someone i dont know, but you can take the risk if you want to.

LOL unless u were breaking teh ToS in the first place, u wouldnt get scammed xD




You can just uninstall it you know... That will free up 10GB+ of space on your comp. And if you really do quit, please don't be the Fiesta quiter that stays on forums to bash OS.

erm...i thot i was just around 1GB o.o

[berselius]

Technically merely mentioning that you are quitting in a thread does not make it a quit thread. This is thread is about the OP's feelings and perception on how the game has declined over the course of time (although the way its formatted makes it very close to outright flaming). The CONCLUSION is that he quits, not the subject. You forum police need to lighten up and let the mods do their own job.

[WolfAngel9414]

Can I say I sort of agree without getting my face ripped off? ._.

[lolznplz]

You forum police need to lighten up and let the mods do their own job.

just thought i'd quote that.
and, every item that OP brought, i agreed with 100%. Unfortunately, i can't bring myself to quit the game, but i will refuse to buy SC as long as everything is overpriced. Really, it doesn't cost anything to make the items in the cash shop, and the game was free with no cash shop a long time ago, so anyone saying that outpsark needs to make money somehow, you're argument is irrelevant.

[WolfAngel9414]

ROFL I've been trying to say that too Dx What does it cost to summon some pixels for everyone to wear? If it does cost some ungodly sum I'd like for someone to let me know. Add 12% crit with the touch of a button and we pay loads of irl money for it ._. yello? something's wrong with that picture.

[Temari_and_Gaara]

Abyss
I remember the good old times, when you could sit around in fbz/abyss and have a fight with some person once in a while. Ofc this was before the kps came.
Why the hell did they even put kp in the game?
And if it was in an attempt to make more people happy, why is it still here? Cuz im pretty sure that nobody in the game atm thinks this is good.
Except the no lifers that practically lives in abyss ofc.
And now you need charms, ext, sc pots, a sc pet, a sc cover for your +9 wep, +9 blues and a sc suit to just go in there and have a fair fight.



whats a KP? x.x *nooby* watch it be something simple x.x


why did that quote fail? one moment


x.x forgot /quote x.x *fail*

[zipiouch]

lol

kp = kill points :P

[DanielRizzo]

I actually agree with the OP.

I think this is a great game and I wouldn't like to quit anytime soon. My personal solution is to never buy Sparkcash again and avoid PvP and the Abyss — It's all optional. I play plenty of other MMOs to fulfill my need to hack-and-slash other players. At least until OS finally finds a solution to sate their fat wallets and keep us happy.

[oakrivermark]

I can't but agree on the point about the abyss, Yes it is a PvP zone(I have no prob with that), its the fact that you barely get in the abyss and a party of 4 attacks you,(bunch of cowards).

This well get off topic somewhat, but, I mentioned in another thread, awhile back, that a timer should be implemented when you enter the abyss, say 5 minutes. In those 5 minutes you can't attack anybody or be attacked by anybody. Also give the option for people to cancel the timer, but then they can't attack people who have the timer running, that way if your there for Pvp you can fight immediately(but only those who are there for PvP, or are free game). Those that don't cancel their timer have a chance to get past the PK'rs(because they hang out at the entrance), and enter the Abyss and try to get drops and level, but once the timer runs out they are free game. I myself don't go to the abyss, unless, I'm in the mood to kill PK'rs, and you should how they run when they can't kill you(LMAO), and then they try to party you(ROTFLMAO).

Back on topic, unfortunately, about being about money, OS staff need to put bread on the table too, but maybe there are better ways to get people to invest RL money. I know I buy SC and don't give a hoot about Pvp.

Hope you don't quit, because there are some decent people here, and if you not serious about quitting, maybe edit your OP. And if everybody quits(and the PK'rs will quit to someday, if there is nobody to PK), Fiesta will die.

[Lilith.Doe]

And if everybody quits(and the PK'rs will quit to someday, if there is nobody to PK), Fiesta will die.

To be completely honest I think Fiesta is already dying, slowly but dying, since many players (myself included) are currently looking for another games or already are playing them.

[mystikoo]

No, i dont know if i can say that i quit from Fiesta, but i leave outspark.
Im still playing at gamigo(they have fiesta for people outside the US).
Its less people there, and no kp. (yet)

[lolznplz]

Back on topic, unfortunately, about being about money, OS staff need to put bread on the table too, but maybe there are better ways to get people to invest RL money. I know I buy SC and don't give a hoot about Pvp.

Hope you don't quit, because there are some decent people here, and if you not serious about quitting, maybe edit your OP. And if everybody quits(and the PK'rs will quit to someday, if there is nobody to PK), Fiesta will die.

I hate it when people talk about how OS needs to make money too. The entire game was free once, and it was a lot more fun and innocent back then too...
****, now I'm just sittin' here in nostalgia.

[mystikoo]

I guess i need to send a pm with some insults :)
Cuz this GMs are SLOW!!

[CM_Oracle]

I guess i need to send a pm with some insults :)
Cuz this GMs are SLOW!!

What you think we're not reading the thread?

[caliab]

@OP- your view is the same as quite a few people but in my opinion if you have THAT much to dislike about the game why try to get a rise out of the staff and just uninstall fiesta? I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to prove by saying you want to insult the GMs and asking to be banned.

Instead of talking in forums about all the things you dislike about the cash shop for the purpose of getting something changed and informing players or whatnot...instead you've made it about trying to get a rise out of the staff. Again I don't get your purpose. Your thread will eventually get closed and people will move onto the next thread and forget all about this one. If you actually wanted to take a stand there are more effective ways of doing so.

[Bonthra]

Abyss
I remember the good old times, when you could sit around in fbz/abyss and have a fight with some person once in a while. Ofc this was before the kps came.
Why the hell did they even put kp in the game?
And if it was in an attempt to make more people happy, why is it still here? Cuz im pretty sure that nobody in the game atm thinks this is good.
Except the no lifers that practically lives in abyss ofc.
And now you need charms, ext, sc pots, a sc pet, a sc cover for your +9 wep, +9 blues and a sc suit to just go in there and have a fair fight.

I remember the first thing they announced about the Abyss was that it was a PvP zone. And the meager beginnings of the Abyss were few drops, normal difficulty mobs, and not very many of those not-very-high-exp mobs. It wasn't until they upped the drops and exp and lowered the difficulty of the mobs that people flocked to the Abysses.

I remember, prior to the KP system, there were still players spam killing. I'll admit it was not as frequent, but it was still there.

Furthermore, I don't find many players hunting for kill points except for in the 20 Abyss. And that is, by far, the easiest Abyss to avoid.


Gifts
I dont really know if gifting is a good thing. sure, it gave the people without a credit card and alot of phone money the chance to get sc. And after being scammed maybe three times they finally get theyre suit and the mover or something. My point here is, gifting has rised the scam in fiesta greatly. I wouldnt wanna buy gifts from someone i dont know, but you can take the risk if you want to.

The scamming is why the GMs and CSRs forbid gifting for gold. It's a buy-at-your-own-risk thing. Don't want to be scammed? Don't buy SC gifts.

There are many more points one could make about poor customer service choices and money with regards to OutSpark. But they were not brought up by the OP, so I will not either.

I, for one, stay for the community. I know the game's limitations, but I haven't played this game for the sake of the game since my first character was 5x. And that was over a year and a half ago.

Unfortunately, many, many of my friends, the only reason I play the game and have ever invested SparkCash in the game, are quitting. Several of them have made threads regarding why they've left. Their digital voices appear to fall on deaf ears. Admittedly, a possible reason for the appearance of lack of concern comes from overworked staff and from no one, not even the saintliest of employees, enjoys being screamed at and told how to do their job.

I feel I've meandered. I'm sorry if I'm aimlessly wandering about this thread. I just feel too many players, many of them big SparkCash spenders, are becoming disenchanted and frustrated and are leaving. That prospect saddens me.

[lilkitty1021]

Don't use money if you don't want to.
Don't go to the Abyss or FBZ if you don't want to get killed.

Why blame anything on Money or Outspark?

[defcom]

Ooooo XD Oracle just ninja-ed you. lol

Ok back onto topic:

When I first started playing Fiesta it was pretty simple. There was a lot less problems concerning SC items. I mean...there was definitely stuff in the item shop but the stuff back then wasn't nearly as expensive nor did they drastically sway the balance of the game. Now the company may not have made as much $ back then but their players were satisfied with what items were in Shop.

Now...there is definitely a wider selection of items to purchase, but with the extra variety of items came more problems and complaints of IG abuse.

Going back in time again I'd like to mention that they even had permanent items for your character to buy. I can definitely see why they may have pulled the perm items out...it doesn't take a quantum theory physicist to figure that out XD (sorry i got tired of saying rocket scientist). I can also understand that costumes would generally cost more depending on how much bonus the costume gives.

This is all theory but if prices are upped on popular items, the company may make extra $ but there is a limit to how far you can go before you are faced with diminishing returns.

I can see the logic behind OS's actions mentioned above, but I disagree with how they are upping item prices for other items in Store. Imo, the player demographics of Fiesta is heavy-sided with the majority of people in the mid-teens to 20's and as we move up in age, there are fewer and fewer in the older categories. Higher prices make it difficult for the younger players to purchase items. It is not until the person reaches 18 that they can really open up a credit card and be able to work openly (not under-the-table). W/o going into financial details....teens and early 20's are usually poor or only have a lil bit of $ to spend freely. For those who are young adolescents, they won't be able to readily spend $ unless their parents provide.

Now theres probably a lot of players who like to spend SC on occasions and can not afford to go above a certain level of spending. Then there are OS's leading patrons....those who do not mind or can afford to pay $50+ per month on SC items. One must keep in mind that there are fewer in #s of heavy spenders than there are the general population of occasional spenders. Perhaps if you provide items which were a tad cheaper, the occasional spenders would feel less guilt in dishing out $, therefore opening up a larger market and the possibility of having more customers to the item store.

Now I'm not sure if any of these ideas will work and I'm not a market analysist. (though if i was given data I could probably whip up some data charts on profit margins: over said time and customer demographics) I must also admit that as a consumer I would have a bias towards prices.

**Conclusion: as a customer (consumer) of course you want a good deal and of course there is going to be a negative response to price increases. However, you must also consider the effects of lowering the price in that there may be less profit to be had and possibility of flooding Isya with too many CS items x.x

[mehe25]

Technically merely mentioning that you are quitting in a thread does not make it a quit thread. This is thread is about the OP's feelings and perception on how the game has declined over the course of time (although the way its formatted makes it very close to outright flaming). The CONCLUSION is that he quits, not the subject. You forum police need to lighten up and let the mods do their own job.

Forum Police jump to conclusion way too fast.


And I have to agree with the OP...
I mean I remember this game in the first stage of beta, I'm early. It was so fun and everyone is loving and Sc didn't really matter to anyone. If you had a suit or whatever, no one really gave a---. When we moved into the December age everything started getting out of hand and the birth of corruption was near. Every little brat that came from December got their parents to buy SC and all that, it started spreading and from the little old peaceful place we called Fiesta became the show-off-my-SC-stage. And after December, nothing was the same...

[irishscorpion]

its so hard to distinguish constructive feedback and just plain bickering threads on the forums nowadays....

CM's Id like to suggest a new forum rule if it is not already implemented yet:

No repeat threads.

I know its a rule for no repeat threads "by a single person".

But sifting through the few good topics on General Discussion is getting tedious.

If a thread like this one is dead: ie. last post a week ago, or on page 7 of the forums then go ahead, create a new one. Otherwise, Id recommend repeat threads by ANY person be closed and/or deleted.

[raistlinmajeree]

:( i know i spend hundreds on fiesta a month probly between us in the house anyway and I am not getting my moneys worth.

Up'd prices for new server very convienant eyes went up packs went up removed alot of stuff no more beauty cuponunless you buy the pack which went up ... outspark comon most games get 69.95 out of us and thats it.

stop being greedy or your all gonna be out of jobs when we leave for better cheaper games with more customer awareness

[pikafanisvocal]

MMoRPGs generally have short-to-mid lifespans(like ~3-5 years). When people start moving on to other games it usually means the game has "died" in a sense. The current Fiesta is slowly reaching that point; so naturally what do distributors do to capitalize on it before it happens? Charge more money of course.

It is a fact that there will always be a lot of people who spam SC no matter how expensive it gets, and these businessmen know that.

We only hope that enough people spend less on cash to force OS to lower the cost.

[irishscorpion]

MMoRPGs generally have short-to-mid lifespans(like ~3-5 years). When people start moving on to other games it usually means the game has "died" in a sense. The current Fiesta is slowly reaching that point; so naturally what do distributors do to capitalize on it before it happens? Charge more money of course.

It is a fact that there will always be a lot of people who spam SC no matter how expensive it gets, and these businessmen know that.

We only hope that enough people spend less on cash to force OS to lower the cost.

Outspark and Fiesta isnt going anywhere anytime soon. Period.

(and no, not because Sparkcash is so high they can afford it blah blah crap)

If this were actually true, why were all servers on HIGH all day today?

Ive said it before and ill say it again. Most of you bicker and complain, but what do you do? Log off the forums and log into the game. I cant count on two hands how many signatures Ive seen that says "Status Quit" and I see them running around the game still.

[ishbabboon]

i guess i am not helping already spent 400$ in sc and i want more ..... but i agree wit everyone but i also love sc ....... so i guess i like both of what everyone is saying but sadly i will be one of them who OS loves ill keep spending like crazy ...... +9ng is my thing lol

[littlemissnyu]

Dont bash Os .-.
it'll make me a sad panda
o-o a sad angry panda lol

[andrey1990]

Dont bash Os .-.
it'll make me a sad panda
o-o a sad angry panda lol


That should be funny?

[Sepheera]

its so hard to distinguish constructive feedback and just plain bickering threads on the forums nowadays....

CM's Id like to suggest a new forum rule if it is not already implemented yet:

No repeat threads.

I know its a rule for no repeat threads "by a single person".

But sifting through the few good topics on General Discussion is getting tedious.

If a thread like this one is dead: ie. last post a week ago, or on page 7 of the forums then go ahead, create a new one. Otherwise, Id recommend repeat threads by ANY person be closed and/or deleted.

Although I find duplicate 'nuicance' threads with no real constructive criticism to be an annoyance, I'm afraid I have to disagree with this advice for two reasons.

1) It seems that even when a good point is made it often has to be reiterated a number of times before it's taken seriously enough, or seen to be the opinion of the majority (if that is indeed the case).

2) Even if a thread is along the same lines, once it's reaches a level of 50-100+ posts some of the points can get lost in the length of it. And when it's a hot topic, a thread can reach that length in a number of hours. Starting over fresh is sometimes the better way to go to make sure you're heard.

Now onto the OP's issues.

I agree whole heartedly with many of your points, even if I would have chosen to express them a bit differently. But, I think quite often people are in a hightened emotional state when they make their posts so I can understand how/why frustrations come through.

I've been trying to point out the young age (therefore economic restriction) of the game's market demographic for a while; encouraging OS to reconsider their pricing logic. Not to mention that when in a recession, pretty much everyone is on a budget. One of the first areas that gets cut back on is recreational spending. People want to feel like they're getting their money's worth, and it's hard to rationalize suddenly paying so much more for a piece of code that's already written.

Therefore I believe bulk sales of lower priced items would garner them far more profit in the long run than their current course of action. Implementing price increases of any kind during a time when the game has an unusually high number of problems that is already alienating many players only compounded the problem. At the very least I think the price increases will need to be retracted to prevent mass numbers of current sc users from abandoning the game. It might possibly be necessary for them to lower the pricing even beyond that in order to win back their devotion and dedication; and it would most certainly gain them new ones. And anytime increases were to be considered in the future, doing it in smaller increments over a period of time wouldn't put their customer base/profit margin in nearly as much jeopardy.

If they want more people buying sc I feel that spending their time making it more available (purchasing options as well as pricing) would be a more effective measure. The gaming cards they promote aren't available in nearly as many of the outlets that I've checked as they advertise. (And I have seen a number of posts regarding some problems with their use, as well as the phone purchasing method. Fixing this would undoubtedly help profits.) As a bonus, the ease of access to a reasonably priced cs would go farther to leveling the playing field in pvp areas than their current decisions.

I haven't quit as of yet, but I haven't purchased sc recently either. I still have a bit and I was waiting for the exchange rate to improve to buy more, but now... I'm not about to risk losing any further financial investment when I don't know whether I will be sticking with the game long term now or not. Playing the game without sc after playing it with it is like comparing the graphics between FFVII and FFX; it's just not fun to go back. (And I'm not even a pvp person.) It will all depend on how OS handles things. For me a game needs to be fun, but it also needs to be an economically responsible choice.

OS advertises Fiesta as the game with no end. So if they can keep it fresh and interesting, and keep the players happy it has the potential for incredible longevity. Time will tell if they have what it takes. But if the current state of things is any indication of what's to come, I fear for the future of this game that I've come to love.

[drigr_x]

Its interesting. People are obviously still buying stuff. I know one of my guildies (for a war) gifted 3 members of my guild a stack of charms and a DK suit. Just cause. But if they lowered prices not only would they get MORe business from people who can;t afford prices as they are. They would get even more things sold to those that are forking over high amounts now.

[mystikoo]

The main reason for me getting blocked is so i wont be able to log in next month. Its easy to download Fiesta and chat with some old friends if you are really bored some day. And i already did quit fiesta once, but some months later i came back again. I really dont want a chance to ever come back here. It has done nothing good for me. I have used well over 100 dollars on Fiesta now, and that could have been used at alot of other stuff.
I hope everybody else understands before it goes to far. Its not a joke using 100 Dollars on a online game every month!

[char_family]

Don't use money if you don't want to.
Don't go to the Abyss or FBZ if you don't want to get killed.

Why blame anything on Money or Outspark?

1. Do you use money on SC?

2. Do you go to the abyss or fbz?

If any are yes then you should understand.

[lilkitty1021]

1. Do you use money on SC?

2. Do you go to the abyss or fbz?

If any are yes then you should understand.

No and no. Don't do it, no one is forcing you to.

[devin_nicolai]

To the GM who reads this : Ban me now, so i dont need to see pathetic outspark and your games ever again:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
This is not a quit thread -.- i just happened to mention it

Hope you had a good time with outspark I guess.

[lolznplz]

Ooooo XD Oracle just ninja-ed you. lol

Ok back onto topic:

When I first started playing Fiesta it was pretty simple. There was a lot less problems concerning SC items. I mean...there was definitely stuff in the item shop but the stuff back then wasn't nearly as expensive nor did they drastically sway the balance of the game. Now the company may not have made as much $ back then but their players were satisfied with what items were in Shop.

Now...there is definitely a wider selection of items to purchase, but with the extra variety of items came more problems and complaints of IG abuse.

Going back in time again I'd like to mention that they even had permanent items for your character to buy. I can definitely see why they may have pulled the perm items out...it doesn't take a quantum theory physicist to figure that out XD (sorry i got tired of saying rocket scientist). I can also understand that costumes would generally cost more depending on how much bonus the costume gives.

This is all theory but if prices are upped on popular items, the company may make extra $ but there is a limit to how far you can go before you are faced with diminishing returns.

I can see the logic behind OS's actions mentioned above, but I disagree with how they are upping item prices for other items in Store. Imo, the player demographics of Fiesta is heavy-sided with the majority of people in the mid-teens to 20's and as we move up in age, there are fewer and fewer in the older categories. Higher prices make it difficult for the younger players to purchase items. It is not until the person reaches 18 that they can really open up a credit card and be able to work openly (not under-the-table). W/o going into financial details....teens and early 20's are usually poor or only have a lil bit of $ to spend freely. For those who are young adolescents, they won't be able to readily spend $ unless their parents provide.

Now theres probably a lot of players who like to spend SC on occasions and can not afford to go above a certain level of spending. Then there are OS's leading patrons....those who do not mind or can afford to pay $50+ per month on SC items. One must keep in mind that there are fewer in #s of heavy spenders than there are the general population of occasional spenders. Perhaps if you provide items which were a tad cheaper, the occasional spenders would feel less guilt in dishing out $, therefore opening up a larger market and the possibility of having more customers to the item store.

Now I'm not sure if any of these ideas will work and I'm not a market analysist. (though if i was given data I could probably whip up some data charts on profit margins: over said time and customer demographics) I must also admit that as a consumer I would have a bias towards prices.

**Conclusion: as a customer (consumer) of course you want a good deal and of course there is going to be a negative response to price increases. However, you must also consider the effects of lowering the price in that there may be less profit to be had and possibility of flooding Isya with too many CS items x.x

you sir, are a genious, and should go work for outspark. Also, for those people who spend $50+ a month, or even $10 a month, every month, why the heck do you play this game? Go buy World of Warcraft. I don't know if advertising other games is allowed here (look out for the forum police xD) but WoW is probably cheaper than this game, if you're spending that much, and better. It also has none of the issues everyone complains about here.

[drigr_x]

The main reason for me getting blocked is so i wont be able to log in next month. Its easy to download Fiesta and chat with some old friends if you are really bored some day. And i already did quit fiesta once, but some months later i came back again. I really dont want a chance to ever come back here. It has done nothing good for me. I have used well over 100 dollars on Fiesta now, and that could have been used at alot of other stuff.
I hope everybody else understands before it goes to far. Its not a joke using 100 Dollars on a online game every month!

If you would take the time to re download the game and log on who's to say you wont just make a new account...? Its really up to you on quitting. Or you can go ahead and break the whole ToS, I'm sure that will get you banned.

[Tamlinari]

These threads come up all of the time and they used to get closed pretty fast but lately they have been letting them run for some reason.

The vast majority of players hate what has become of Fiesta and I hear about it all of the time in the game.

The very first thing that they did when Dakkon left (not that I miss him all that much) was to immediately remove all permanent items from the cash shop.
I knew at that point what they were planning and I wasn't wrong.

Then came the level increase on the abyss and the loss of experience points in the abyss.
And it was all about increasing cash shop sales.

I guess whoever thought that this was a brilliant plan also thought that everyone was too much of an idiot to be able to see what was happening.
Well that is apparently true for a lot of the really immature minded players but the rest of us could see exactly what was going on.

Yeah, there are a lot of people who are unhappy with the current situation myself included but nothing is going to change unless the cash shop sales stop or at least significantly decrease in frequency.

As long as the money keeps pouring in they are going to believe that everyone is happy with and accept the changes no matter how many complaints they get.

[mystikoo]

If you would take the time to re download the game and log on who's to say you wont just make a new account...? Its really up to you on quitting. Or you can go ahead and break the whole ToS, I'm sure that will get you banned.

Thats where the great part of my plan comes in ^^
Since im in eu my IP is blocked so i cant make new email accounts at this fiesta. so if i get my email account blocked i cant ever log in again without changing my ip or getting someone else to make me an account. And i know i wont go through that much trouble to play this shizy game.

[kraisen]

Ugh, I get sick of these whiners.

You don't have to buy SC items, and if you don't like the game without them, don't play.

Real life is all about money, and this game is the source of income for some people.

[Tamlinari]

Ugh, I get sick of these whiners.

You don't have to buy SC items, and if you don't like the game without them, don't play.

Real life is all about money, and this game is the source of income for some people.

Thanks for letting us know that Mr. Mar 2009.
But some of us are not happy with the way the game has been going down hill since November of 2008.

But I do agree with your assertion that we don't have to buy as much if any spark cash anymore.
Getting the point accost with money tends to make people take notice.

[mystikoo]

why dont you just go to gamigo fiesta ther many gm's ther online and harder to get money so lower change of ksers in abbys i dont like that one but if you like it just try it

one thing is they dont got teleporting guard ore purples/blues

If you had read my post earlier in the thread you would have seen that i do play there. And now they do have a teleport guard just like OS.
They do also have blues but not for low lvls.:)
And who told you its harder to get money there? o.o Its not, you just have to work for it.

[drigr_x]

If you had read my post earlier in the thread you would have seen that i do play there. And now they do have a teleport guard just like OS.
They do also have blues but not for low lvls.:)
And who told you its harder to get money there? o.o Its not, you just have to work for it.
"You just have to work for it" That's what makes it harder :D

[macman12]

well i joined fiesta after the KPs were in so i dont mind them i actually like going in and fighting a bit but i dont waist $$$ on scrolls and pots i go in just after i had lvled so i dont lose exp and try my chaces on the people that r in there 24/7

[jasonthe13]

aww i miss dakkon T.T

[jasonthe13]

well i joined fiesta after the KPs were in so i dont mind them i actually like going in and fighting a bit but i dont waist $$$ on scrolls and pots i go in just after i had lvled so i dont lose exp and try my chaces on the people that r in there 24/7

your total clueless lol

[ah_ikeepsitreal]

Necro post :D


plus



Abyss


Quit
This is the reason i now quit, and im sure alot of people has already and will quit some time the next months, cuz fiesta is at the worst stage i have seen a mmo game in atm.





*salute* bye bye

[GM_Nekopon]

Necro and quit! -close-