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thalegend7695
07-18-2009, 12:15 PM
When I stopped playing fiesta for a few months, when I came back Menian Suits were completely gone. How come they were removed? They were the original costumes, 30 days = like 70 def or something, and there was a permanent with no effect. Will they ever be added back? I want to buy a permanent one :/ I think they cost somewhere between 4.8k-6.8k [Its been like a year since I've seen ~.~]

King_Obito
07-18-2009, 12:21 PM
I actually really liked those, so I support this :c.

Roseanna
07-18-2009, 12:51 PM
I miss them, I'd like a chance to buy more also.

thalegend7695
07-18-2009, 12:53 PM
If they bring them back, they should make the permnant, the def on 30 days isnt very useful x.o due to invis suit,m unless ur like lvl 1.xD

snicker1612
07-18-2009, 04:47 PM
They weren't as low as 4.8k ^^
The Menians were around 6k+ Sc. I actually have the Red Menian Perm for my Cleric so I kind of remember. (:

opz87
07-18-2009, 05:17 PM
I miss them too.
Any chance to have them back? T^T

SKiNG
07-18-2009, 05:39 PM
The permanent Menian Suits did not have stats on them. The 7/30 days one did however.

thalegend7695
07-18-2009, 05:47 PM
When I stopped playing fiesta for a few months, when I came back Menian Suits were completely gone. How come they were removed? They were the original costumes, 30 days = like 70 def or something, and there was a permanent with no effect. Will they ever be added back? I want to buy a permanent one :/ I think they cost somewhere between 4.8k-6.8k [Its been like a year since I've seen ~.~]

Lol I said that SKiNG, that's what I meant by no effect.

Dthugtherealist
07-18-2009, 06:29 PM
My friend told me about some perm suit with 10% def increase with a cool design I don;t remember wat he told me it was called tho.......

thalegend7695
07-18-2009, 07:08 PM
I think he was confused between permanent menian and 30 day. 30 day was def, permanent no effects.

ahtai
07-18-2009, 07:36 PM
Only perminent with effect is 3% critic. Sakera, ManTong, Cat ears.

monkeyman-ownsyou
07-18-2009, 07:39 PM
i just know i want one .-. when i first started playing the were selling them, but the day i finally got some sparkcash they stopped selling them...the need to cycle back some of the "vintage" stuff lol all these swimsuits are overpriced and look ridiculous...i miss the way outspark was last summer :( but i will admit, the new tower nd seg has helped me get all my alts except 1(only lvl42) to 50+ xD

zipiouch
07-18-2009, 07:42 PM
lol make different colours while ur at it <3

yucina
07-18-2009, 07:42 PM
I'm lucky enough to have one on my archer. <3
They're adorable, but I wonder if a different color would look better with archers than the blue one.
But they match meh eyes, so meh. <3

thalegend7695
07-18-2009, 07:45 PM
I want a white one for my mage, black for warrior, green for archer, and blue for cleric x.o

zipiouch
07-18-2009, 07:51 PM
i want a pink one, no not a damn sakura, ill already have a sakura, i want a pink menian~ xD

Roseanna
07-18-2009, 08:30 PM
lol make different colours while ur at it <3
Good point, to match all the hair colors. ;) I'd take a green one on my archer, or a perm midori if that ever came out.

zipiouch
07-18-2009, 08:45 PM
lol since ur talking about perm costumes, make a perm vday <3 xD

thalegend7695
07-18-2009, 08:55 PM
They can't make a perm v-day besides a specific one I won't mention. Since it's a holiday.

zipiouch
07-18-2009, 08:58 PM
awwwwww ;-; i love teh vday suits soooo much ;-;

Dthugtherealist
07-19-2009, 04:44 AM
Some people got perm V-day suits in Bijou that u can actually sell. I seen a few people that have some.

opz87
07-19-2009, 04:54 AM
Some people got perm V-day suits in Bijou that u can actually sell. I seen a few people that have some.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/8243/stranezza01mq8.jpg

True, i got that screen long time ago
I am not sure, but I think there are only two permanent v-day suit (one pink and one blue) around Bijou ;S

Andromeda
07-19-2009, 05:33 AM
Permanent Blue V-Day outfit
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d59/kramark/vdaycostume.jpg

Roseanna
07-19-2009, 06:07 AM
I am not sure, but I think there are only two permanent v-day suit (one pink and one blue) around Bijou ;S
There's 8 on each server, we got them for the vday 2008 event. I have a blue one on my archer, along with a level 50 +9 vday bow.

thalegend7695
07-19-2009, 10:11 AM
I know a player with a permanent bluev-day costume and has a lvl 60 wand with m.dmg of a +9 blue wand. and its +0 I believe

Fre_ak
07-19-2009, 11:18 AM
yesh like others said those v-day perm suits are from a event.

In order to give the prizes to the winners, GM had to trade it with them. that why those items are tradeable. (like any others SC event prizes).

just those are permanent Q.Q

firehawk93
07-19-2009, 01:37 PM
Waiiit! V-day? WTH, I haven't got the chance to get that <.<

thalegend7695
07-20-2009, 12:43 PM
Cuz ur not good enuf ;c -bump to 1st page-

Stealth1312
07-20-2009, 02:22 PM
:D i loved the meanian suits they looked cool i was gonna buy one before they got removed but >.< missed out
they were like 3k - 6k (3k on sale)

Tamlinari
07-20-2009, 02:38 PM
Fiesta was a much better game and a lot more fun to play back then.
Maybe if they fire the greedy scrooge person who is running the cash shop at this time things will go back to being more like they were before.

If they were to put anything like that back in the cash shop now they would probably charge 7100 spark cash and it would have a 30 day time limit.

But as it is now there is no more permanent anything in the game and even the event prizes are time limited to 1 or 7 days and most are so lame that no one even bothers collecting the drops anymore.

thalegend7695
07-20-2009, 02:45 PM
if it's perma BASED off wedidng set it shud cost like 5725. the pack - app, - fireworks.

devin_nicolai
07-20-2009, 07:59 PM
OS only releases Permanents when they really need money.

( Not wedding ones ).

winterblackice
07-20-2009, 08:22 PM
Lols ;/ -makes every1 stop buying sc-

Stealth1312
07-21-2009, 07:52 AM
Lol :D
10 char

android_25
07-21-2009, 08:06 AM
need.... those.... suits.... coz i love them i wish i bought these before they removed it

zipiouch
07-21-2009, 08:14 AM
i know T.T theyre so superawesomespecialsmexy :O

winterblackice
07-21-2009, 10:56 AM
xD I really want a blue one T.T or if they release, a black one c; I have a screenie of a black one too [b4 white hair and stuff was released I had my char edited with orange hair/blue menian to black menian white hair xD]
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk249/BladeChildren360/shadowkidgamingcardJoker.png

Bueawa
07-21-2009, 10:59 AM
I just want a Perma V-Day Costume, the rest sux... Nightmare Costume Would be Nice too :( But they don't have any Perma on Nightmare Costumes

Tamlinari
07-21-2009, 11:24 AM
Well I don't see any of that happening any time soon because apparently Silky doesn't believe in permanent anything.
The only permanent stuff that is available now is permanent stuff that you have to continue to pay for.
Even the event quests rewards have all been turned into time limited items so no one even bothers with picking up the drops anymore.

Well let me say that it may not be entirely Silky's fault that everything is lame now but I am of the opinion that it is so I am going to blame it on him anyway.

zipiouch
07-21-2009, 01:58 PM
Well I don't see any of that happening any time soon because apparently Silky doesn't believe in permanent anything.
The only permanent stuff that is available now is permanent stuff that you have to continue to pay for.
Even the event quests rewards have all been turned into time limited items so no one even bothers with picking up the drops anymore.

Well let me say that it may not be entirely Silky's fault that everything is lame now but I am of the opinion that it is so I am going to blame it on him anyway.

lol, smooooooooth xP

winterblackice
07-21-2009, 08:44 PM
..... Charged 10$ of sc... cant gift my main -.- blocked FML! I start the thread for them to bring it back and they do it when im banned >:c

asianman1
07-21-2009, 08:49 PM
LMFAOOOOO OWNEDDDDDD HAHAHAHAHAHA <3333 xD

winterblackice
07-21-2009, 08:49 PM
And I started the flipping thing >:c

asianman1
07-21-2009, 08:52 PM
flipping thing o.o........ -goes back to laughing-

winterblackice
07-21-2009, 08:53 PM
I hate u jiewei :c and dont hit 90 nub >:/ I have to get my BK wand +9d and keel u :/

kylestaner
07-21-2009, 08:55 PM
they added Menian perm back till matince and they are 20% off as long as you dun want the yellow since they forgot to lower its price lol 4195 for red or blue 5595 for yellow XD

asianman1
07-21-2009, 09:15 PM
pffft im 98% till lv 90 >:D Q.Q so its gonna take me a while

Roseanna
07-21-2009, 10:13 PM
Thanks OS. :) But... I wish it were available for longer, or at least with some warning. Not all of us can afford to have tons of money to drop on sc with no notice for only a few hours, ya know?

WolfAngel9414
07-21-2009, 10:32 PM
lol D: my luck that I wanted yellow x-x *waits for someone to report and get it changed*

GM_Pilkysico
07-21-2009, 10:39 PM
Yellow Menian Set price is fixed.

Sorry for the confusion.

King_Obito
07-21-2009, 10:40 PM
LOL, what if we bought it when it was more expensive than the others?

Celtic_Princess
07-21-2009, 10:41 PM
LOL, what if we bought it when it was more expensive than the others?

-points to the submit a ticket button in her siggy-

:)

King_Obito
07-21-2009, 10:45 PM
-points to the submit a ticket button in her siggy-

:)

Nuuu so much work. Y_Y Alright then.. time to get my 1k back D:..

nishant-rocks
07-21-2009, 10:51 PM
kelyyy u know u wanan gift me a yellow 1 D: please

krazykris_2000
07-21-2009, 10:52 PM
and me too because Im your secret lover D::::::::::::::

King_Obito
07-21-2009, 10:55 PM
I only have 6506 left :c. Anyways I sent my report. -goes to bed-

nishant-rocks
07-21-2009, 10:56 PM
aodfjad kelly tahts good for 1 D::

Celtic_Princess
07-21-2009, 10:58 PM
aodfjad kelly tahts good for 1 D::

lol nish you mooch

lordkaizer
07-21-2009, 11:00 PM
os could you make these suit stays for little longer not only 3 hours or so

Fre_ak
07-21-2009, 11:20 PM
omg they removed it??? i was just about to buy one...wth =.=" *hit head*

GM_Pilkysico
07-21-2009, 11:21 PM
omg they removed it??? i was just about to buy one...wth =.=" *hit head*

Too slow :)

Maybe next time.

Ian
07-21-2009, 11:22 PM
Yay for buying a blue menian. ;D

Fre_ak
07-21-2009, 11:27 PM
Too slow :)

Maybe next time.
i...hate...u >.>

couldnt wait like after the maintenance is done? =.=

omega_cloud9
07-21-2009, 11:29 PM
I actually really liked those, so I support this :c.

Same here.~

Ian
07-21-2009, 11:29 PM
You guys had like 2 hours to buy em >_>

monkeyman-ownsyou
07-21-2009, 11:36 PM
You guys had like 2 hours to buy em >_>

a whole 2 hours of notice >.< and where i live it wasn't until around 10pm before the notices started...how did you expect me to get a hold of sparkcash in the middle of the night? You should make this like a weekend sale or something instead of a 2hour sell...

ahtai
07-21-2009, 11:38 PM
I hate you T-T I am at tower and not planing to shop in there while there are people waiting outside. D:

Next time get back the sakura only, I really like that one more. I don't need another ear so don't bundle them.

Ian
07-21-2009, 11:39 PM
It's 12:40am for me, and 10pm was when I started to see announcements, so yeah. It was just one of those SUPRISE! releases before server close. :D

Stepper
07-21-2009, 11:42 PM
Haha, thank god I saw this thread in time to get one. I'm just kinda bummed that I was 20sc short of being able to buy 2. XP

rockinclover
07-21-2009, 11:45 PM
I'm really starting to hate OS' cute "surprises". They aren't cute.

edit: Oh, btw, what's the point of the OutsparkOffers twitter? It's not even being used...

ireneling
07-21-2009, 11:50 PM
O.o i hv red manian on my main <3 it relly nice suit xD but will be cool if add some cric :D but not fair for old player lol :P'' Love fiesta forever c(=

EchoSound
07-22-2009, 12:08 AM
lol I love how the GM's listened to this thread! Thanks to it, I managed to get one. My wonderful friend gifted me on her birthday for mine. XD

My cleric now has the blue set. ^_^

gabhrienne
07-22-2009, 12:13 AM
I can't charge SC O_O T_T . I wasn't able to buy ><

Bueawa
07-22-2009, 12:32 AM
Ahh... sux that I couldn't buy them, but I wouldn't use them anyways xD as I have a few costumes stacked for like 4-5months ;D

BloodMage78
07-22-2009, 12:44 AM
Aww man
i wanna buy more D:

I have a perm blue one on my cleric :p

lordkaizer
07-22-2009, 04:21 AM
man i hate os even more 3 hours to buy these suits and it was on morning at that time i couldnt buy anything. so is it really nececery to release them for few hours? you can make at least stays for 1 week but 3 hours and be4 maintance. what were they thinking

endlessly_unwielding
07-22-2009, 05:20 AM
Thanks OS. :) But... I wish it were available for longer, or at least with some warning. Not all of us can afford to have tons of money to drop on sc with no notice for only a few hours, ya know?

lol, this was my problem when they released the iron cases earlier yesterday, and then I get home for thin to tell me they sold perm menian suits just before maintenance. It sucks, because I want to buy the cases when they go on sale (I need 2 or 3), and I wanted a red menian for my cleric -- but my debit card requires 24 hours between when I request my money and when I can actually receive it on my card. bummer with these surprise sales :\ it's hard to keep money stashed away on my card or in pre-buying spark cash for the hope that something I want might pop up.

winterblackice
07-22-2009, 05:37 AM
lol I love how the GM's listened to this thread! Thanks to it, I managed to get one. My wonderful friend gifted me on her birthday for mine. XD

My cleric now has the blue set. ^_^

I'm not x.o I made thread and they don't let yo gift suspended accs >:c I was going to gift my main acc one to use ;c Instead I bought one for my current fighter x.o

gigibunny
07-22-2009, 07:41 AM
Yay for buying a blue menian. ;D

woot I bought a blue and a red one *_* then went to get yellow.. I was too slow.. like a turtle for that one xD

:D woot

Tamlinari
07-22-2009, 07:46 AM
Too slow :)

Maybe next time.

You know what?
I really hate this kind of foolish immature mind game crap that Outspark plays now.
What is the point?
I mean, what is this? Elementary school?
I have the money! I want to spend some of my money on something that I want from the cash shop but I can't because someone is playing some kind of juvenile hide and seek game with the items that I want to buy.
Those items used to be available all of the time but now I guess someone (not going to mention the name) finds it more amusing to watch people chase them around like a kitten chasing a laser dot.
Well I can just take the money that I have to spend and I can spend it someplace else.
Like someplace other than the Outspark cash shop.

I am really starting to develop a very bad opinion of Outspark in general lately.

Mindspank
07-22-2009, 08:38 AM
To be honest, at least they listened at all. Some companies dont even listen to their customers and just let them flap in the breeze. Cant even begin to count on my hands, toes and hairs on my head how many PC games ive played that were broken, the company knew it was broken, and still has yet to do anything about it.

*coughfableGTAIVmatrixonlineeverqueststarwarsgalax iescough*

It was last minute, yes. Outspark seems to be getting more and more spontaneous in an effort to instead of players buying SC when something comes out, encourage players to KEEP SC at their disposal "just incase". It really is a clever business tactic. They have managed to change the flow of income from sudden bursts to a steady stream.

In reality, they have expenses and employees to pay. You cant really fault them for their tactics. You do always have the option to stop buying SC. The game is free to play, afterall.

Tamlinari
07-22-2009, 09:02 AM
You know what?
I really hate this kind of foolish immature mind game crap that Outspark plays now.
What is the point?
I mean, what is this? Elementary school?
I have the money! I want to spend some of my money on something that I want from the cash shop but I can't because someone is playing some kind of juvenile hide and seek game with the items that I want to buy.
Those items used to be available all of the time but now I guess someone (not going to mention the name) finds it more amusing to watch people chase them around like a kitten chasing a laser dot.
Well I can just take the money that I have to spend and I can spend it someplace else.
Like someplace other than the Outspark cash shop.

I am really starting to develop a very bad opinion of Outspark in general lately.


To be honest, at least they listened at all. Some companies dont even listen to their customers and just let them flap in the breeze. Cant even begin to count on my hands, toes and hairs on my head how many PC games ive played that were broken, the company knew it was broken, and still has yet to do anything about it.

*coughfableGTAIVmatrixonlineeverqueststarwarsgalax iescough*

It was last minute, yes. Outspark seems to be getting more and more spontaneous in an effort to instead of players buying SC when something comes out, encourage players to KEEP SC at their disposal "just incase". It really is a clever business tactic. They have managed to change the flow of income from sudden bursts to a steady stream.

In reality, they have expenses and employees to pay. You cant really fault them for their tactics. You do always have the option to stop buying SC. The game is free to play, afterall.

Yeah, I know what their game is.
It's like they pulled every dirty, sneaky and conniving sales tactic from the mid 1800 hand book of robber barons.
Well it is making me and apparently a lot of other people too very angry at them.
So much so that I really can't deal with anymore and I have to seriously consider abandoning the game in favor of finding something more agreeable.
It's just not fun anymore when they are using these kind of dirty manipulation tactics.

Addendum:
The forum still kind of fun though.

lordkaizer
07-22-2009, 09:16 AM
You know what?
I really hate this kind of foolish immature mind game crap that Outspark plays now.
What is the point?
I mean, what is this? Elementary school?
I have the money! I want to spend some of my money on something that I want from the cash shop but I can't because someone is playing some kind of juvenile hide and seek game with the items that I want to buy.
Those items used to be available all of the time but now I guess someone (not going to mention the name) finds it more amusing to watch people chase them around like a kitten chasing a laser dot.
Well I can just take the money that I have to spend and I can spend it someplace else.
Like someplace other than the Outspark cash shop.

I am really starting to develop a very bad opinion of Outspark in general lately.

i agree with you i mean it's feel you want to punch his/her idk if silky boy or girl but what does supposd to mean when s/he said that. joke? or making fun at us.

os either put these suits on store or dont put them at all.

winterblackice
07-22-2009, 09:30 AM
i agree with you i mean it's feel you want to punch his/her idk if silky boy or girl but what does supposd to mean when s/he said that. joke? or making fun at us.

os either put these suits on store or dont put them at all.

Silky is a guy irl lmao..... with a.....female char -cough-

Roseanna
07-22-2009, 09:49 AM
It was last minute, yes. Outspark seems to be getting more and more spontaneous in an effort to instead of players buying SC when something comes out, encourage players to KEEP SC at their disposal "just incase". It really is a clever business tactic. They have managed to change the flow of income from sudden bursts to a steady stream.
True. It's just so insanely annoying. Yes, I can charge sc instantly whenever I want. But I shouldn't be. I have bills to pay, gas to put in my car, food to buy. Meanwhile, they go releasing something that I've wanted for months - and know I probably won't see again for months - for a matter of hours. They back me into a "buy now or who knows when, or even if, you'll see it again" position... and I do NOT like that.

Tamlinari
07-22-2009, 09:58 AM
Well I am just so angry at Outspark and specifically Silkypico right now that I could just blow a gasket.
I have to go get some lunch and calm down before I go off on some diatribe.

rockinclover
07-22-2009, 10:34 AM
I have to put myself in a zen state of mind when OS does something like this. I feel like for a long time my posts are on the opposing side of OS' tricks. It shouldn't be that way for a game I love and want to help flourish. Wendy reminds me constantly "You came back...". Yes, I came back. I came back knowing that things were probably the same YET Silky should have learned that we don't appreciate being jerked around after a situation like this? The whole situation is the reason why people consider OS money hungry and inconsiderate to their players. I have given up getting insanely angry about it but I understand the frustration of my friends and lovely tevian investors to this game. I think Tamlinari will be a chubby person if they look for lunch everytime OS upsets them >.< (:P). But yes, looking for something else to do after stunts like this is the best medicine or you will drive yourself into hating something you're supposed to enjoy.

darkendedheavens
07-22-2009, 10:36 AM
OK. I've read pages 1-5 and skipped to the last page. Can someone post screenies? Also I have a question about a costume. I saw one in someone's signature but wasn't able to place it. The character was a girl and she had a slim sword. She wore a blue dress with white "lace" and a top that looks like from the Victorian age. She had silver hair. What is even weirder, the in game screenie showed her at a peculiar stance. She had feet spread apart and the held the sword in front of her with the hilt towards the sky and blade to the ground. Anyone know what I am talking about?

Just wanted to know if that was a SC costume and if that stance was back in the old days.

cercia
07-22-2009, 10:41 AM
OK. I've read pages 1-5 and skipped to the last page. Can someone post screenies? Also I have a question about a costume. I saw one in someone's signature but wasn't able to place it. The character was a girl and she had a slim sword. She wore a blue dress with white "lace" and a top that looks like from the Victorian age. She had silver hair. What is even weirder, the in game screenie showed her at a peculiar stance. She had feet spread apart and the held the sword in front of her with the hilt towards the sky and blade to the ground. Anyone know what I am talking about?

Just wanted to know if that was a SC costume and if that stance was back in the old days.

No, its someone photoshopping an anime character into the game.

For screenies of the Menian costume, check out the Items Discussion, in particular, the stickied costume thread.

Celtic_Princess
07-22-2009, 11:46 AM
Its not a conspiracy, its not a mind game, and its not a trick.

Its a marketing strategy called a flash sale. Flash as in its there, and then its gone. Usually they last anywhere from 1 hour to 1 day. They are never long. Its a common marketing practice in many businesses, this isn't something Outspark cooked up just to get rid of a few menian suits...its an every day thing that a lot of businesses employ.

Its not a big deal if you miss it. The cash shop rotates, and it'll be back around eventually.

GM_Pilkysico
07-22-2009, 11:56 AM
Well I am just so angry at Outspark and specifically Silkypico right now that I could just blow a gasket.
I have to go get some lunch and calm down before I go off on some diatribe.

Feel free to blow a headgasket. Write me an email with your views so we can take this offline.

This "flash sale" was given to me to do as a daily duty. I'm only doing my job.

You can voice your opinion, just put it in a professional manner with emotions aside.

winterblackice
07-22-2009, 11:59 AM
-cough- Eventually. Pff, if this thread made them release menian suit when my acc is giftable imma make more >.> xD jk

snicker1612
07-22-2009, 12:01 PM
At least they actually listened. So what if it was just for 2hours. >>
Some had money stashed, others didn't.

Tamlinari
07-22-2009, 12:04 PM
Its not a conspiracy, its not a mind game, and its not a trick.

Its a marketing strategy called a flash sale. Flash as in its there, and then its gone. Usually they last anywhere from 1 hour to 1 day. They are never long. Its a common marketing practice in many businesses, this isn't something Outspark cooked up just to get rid of a few menian suits...its an every day thing that a lot of businesses employ.

Its not a big deal if you miss it. The cash shop rotates, and it'll be back around eventually.

I am sure it is part of your job as a community leader to attempt to put a positive spin on the things that they do that make the community angry at them.
I don't fault you at all.
I fault the ones that make the decision to conduct business like that.
And I am extremely angry at the person who comes in and mocks everyone by essentially going naah naah naah naah naah naah and symbolically thumbs his nose at everyone who is angry about it and makes some condescending statement about maybe we will be luckier next time.
That makes me furious and I am sure it has that same effect on just about everyone else as well.
I have to say that I am in complete agreement with what Roseanna had to say about it.

Sorry, but I am an emotional person and I apologize but I am really not in the best of moods right now

GM_Pilkysico
07-22-2009, 12:11 PM
Sorry, but I am an emotional person and I apologize but I am really not in the best of moods right now

It's fine to be an emotional person but expressing it when viewable to the public may have it's positive and negative effects.

Just FYI, the "Flash Sale" lasted from 7PM PDT to 10PM PDT. That's 3 hours.

My "comment" about the user being to slow was written because he missed it by literally 2 minutes.

"Flash Sales" can occur again with the same item through out different days and times to accommodate different crowds of people.

One guy may have missed purchasing by 2 minutes, but 10,000 others missed out completely from not being in the game. You have to broaden your view from a service point (Outspark) rather than an individual (player).

If management wants this item to go on a Flash Sale again, it will at a different time.

Celtic_Princess
07-22-2009, 12:16 PM
I am sure it is part of your job as a community leader to attempt to put a positive spin on the things that they do that make the community angry at them.

Actually, I'm free to agree or disagree. But majoring in business and marketing, I recognize that a flash sale isn't a bad or unethical marketing tactic.

I don't fault you at all.
I fault the ones that make the decision to conduct business like that.
And I am extremely angry at the person who comes in and mocks everyone by essentially going naah naah naah naah naah naah and symbolically thumbs his nose at everyone who is angry about it and makes some condescending statement about maybe we will be luckier next time.
That makes me furious and I am sure it has that same effect on just about everyone else as well.
I have to say that I am in complete agreement with what Roseanna had to say about it.

Sorry, but I am an emotional person and I apologize but I am really not in the best of moods right now

I can't fault you for not being in a good mood, I'm not either...I've had one heck of a week so far :)

That said, its not Silky's decision. He may be the one implementing it but he wasnt the one that made the final call on whether or not it happened. Its easy to perceive that GMs and CSRs run the place over there but they do answer to upper management. If you want to be angry at someone, I can send you a list of who's in charge of what department over there...those are the people responsible for such decisions.

I happened to catch the last half hour of the flash sale myself, I've never been a huge fan of permanent items because...well because I didn't have an iron case on my character for almost 2 years and to me they just took up inventory space. But the cash shop really does rotate through items, they always bring the favorites back again at some point. Like how the V-day costumes and the Christmas outfits keep appearing year after year. The menian costume will be back eventually, and probably in a different type of sale.

So no worries, there are a lot bigger things in life to stress over. -looks at the time- yikes, like me being late for work D:

gigibunny
07-22-2009, 12:53 PM
I just happen to get these "flash" sales and sometimes I miss them too :o

but I know a lot of people on the server I played last night knew about it: tons of shouts about it ^^

now I never got one of these outfits before now so naturally I wanted to make sure I got them :)

GM_Pilkysico
07-22-2009, 01:06 PM
BTW,

All players who purchased the Yellow Menian Set at a non-discounted price have been credited 1400 sparkcash.

(No need to submit a ticket)

Roseanna
07-22-2009, 03:01 PM
This thread has moved quite a bit since I went out, and I'm eager to get back in-game so I didn't really read it all... sorry if I missed something important but...

This "flash sale" was given to me to do as a daily duty. I'm only doing my job.
You do kind of come across as being in charge of the cash shop... at least, from your actions and things that you've said, I've gotten the impression that you're the cash shop boss. *shrug*

Frankly, I think the issue is just that we need more time and more advanced notice. If something's going to be taken out, please tell us. Give us a chance to buy it first! And, if something's going to be added or discounted, give us more than a few hours to buy it. Okay some things that are already in the store going on a flash sale is cool, like the cookie packs and the iron case. It sucks for the people who are in work or school at that time but, if the times are switched around every day, everyone will be able to catch one eventually. But something that hasn't been in the store for a very long time, and something that it's safe to assume we won't see again for a while? That's not fair.

I really am bitter about having to charge money on no notice, feeling like I've been backed into a corner and forced to do so. Sure it's a game, it's pixels, I don't need it like I need, say, food. But it's something that I've highly wanted for months. I would've really appreciated having 7 days to do some things to pull together a few extra dollars and make space in my budget to fit it in. We're not all rich kids (or rich adults) with money to toss around at the snap of a finger. And as Wenda pointed out, we don't all have access to instant methods of charging sparkcash, either.

zipiouch
07-22-2009, 03:07 PM
so w8...r we getting them back? :O

winterblackice
07-22-2009, 03:08 PM
Please stop flaming in my thread.
lolznonotrlyijustwanttolooksmart.

bigj3234
07-22-2009, 03:10 PM
I'm cool with "flash sales" but would appreciate a notice of some kind, whether in-game (we all know how much you like to post those green letters about the cash shop) or via forums.

It is, of course, possible that there was some kind of notice, as I was not on last night. If these flash sales are really daily, are they always at the same time?

cercia
07-22-2009, 03:13 PM
so w8...r we getting them back? :O

Yes.

Mostly likely at a bizarre time, with little to no advance notice, and the price of 5k+ SC.

I'm gonna guess they'll do it again near some sort of 'pinch' time for consumers, "to create rarity."

Tamlinari
07-22-2009, 03:36 PM
It is not really a "flash sale" when it is something that doesn't exist in the cash shop to begin with.
It's more like an "artificial scarcity sale" or a "flash here it is and now it's gone again" and you can't even buy it at a higher price in the cash shop until they decide to sneak it in for a couple hours again. And who knows when that will be?
Play Fiesta non stop, all of the time to find out I guess that is the plan.
Well some of us have real lives to attend to in the mean time.

That is what makes me angry.
The fact that it is not available at all even for a higher price in the cash shop and they tease you with it like the proverbial carrot on a string.

"Well if we put it in the cash shop then everyone would have one and no one would buy the other outfits"

That is shallow and short sighted thinking and definitely not true.
I took mine off to put on a bathing suit I bought so what's the big deal?
Can't the people at Outspark provide the players with some fun without trying to triangulate about how to force more cash shop sales?
If they spent less time focusing on greed and more time on how to make players happy the sales will happen automatically without having to use grossly outdated manipulation tactics.

snicker1612
07-22-2009, 03:37 PM
The price of 5k sc is better than last years price. It was about 6k~7k sc last year.

saephdeimon
07-22-2009, 05:57 PM
I didn't got any menian set because I dont know how to get sc when i start to play this game. But I'm looking forward to buy other permanent costume in the future if they gonna be any.

winterblackice
07-22-2009, 06:02 PM
BTW:: There out atm.

darkendedheavens
07-22-2009, 06:08 PM
Since we have "Remi's Refresh" and "Bogo" and "Deal of the week" why not have "Costume of the week?" Just take the old costumes and cycle through them every week. One week Menian another the elf, another the v-day, etc....

saephdeimon
07-22-2009, 06:10 PM
OMG they out! I think its only for and hour or so.. SO GRAB THEM WHILE YOU CAN!

winterblackice
07-22-2009, 06:11 PM
Lol.... why do people act like a HOLIDAY costume is supposed to be out yearly...? And I agree elven shud be released. OMG [idea]

GM_Pilkysico
07-22-2009, 06:15 PM
Since we have "Remi's Refresh" and "Bogo" and "Deal of the week" why not have "Costume of the week?" Just take the old costumes and cycle through them every week. One week Menian another the elf, another the v-day, etc....

That's a good idea. Free gift for you.

winterblackice
07-22-2009, 06:21 PM
That's a good idea. Free gift for you.

w8 NO I THOUGHT OF IT FIRST :C

winterblackice
07-23-2009, 04:04 PM
They should bring back elven suit in 4days in remembrance of sh4d0wkidd.

CrystalEyes
07-23-2009, 04:14 PM
FYI menian suits are out for the next 3 hours!!!
<3 SKiNG

winterblackice
07-23-2009, 07:29 PM
SKiNG if you don't release them in 4 days I hunt you down and keel ur avatar in an intense 5 year server-wide guild
nonotrlybutserverwideguildwarsisftw.

Shera1
07-23-2009, 08:18 PM
SEE THIS:
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=215133

It includes the statment by SkiNG on the problem using your CC. Well.. there's no Target here, nor any of the other stores they mention, and PayPal just isn't trust worthy enough as I mentioned. Believe me on that, I've been around since it's inception. :p

winterblackice
07-23-2009, 09:16 PM
What ru talking about o.0 I charged sc the first night menian was out, and the day b4 with CC and I had NO problems.

CrystalEyes
07-23-2009, 09:28 PM
She's talking about today.

After the site going down for maintenance during they sale yesterday, they had the sale again today.
Luckily I had charged my spark cash yesterday and was able to purchase the sets I had wanted to with that SC, however when I went to charge more today (for someone's birthday present), it repeatedly said my credit card was declined.


Personally, I think they're cursed.

winterblackice
07-23-2009, 09:46 PM
Ic Ic How failsauce that is.

BloodMage78
07-23-2009, 11:09 PM
I charged sc last night and it still hasnt come...
Havnt heard anything from them either but it still says is being processed.
I used hyperwallet so im guessing that all the payments are just built up causing other ones to take longer?

winterblackice
07-23-2009, 11:34 PM
BTW : SKiNG said that problem is fixed.

BloodMage78
07-23-2009, 11:46 PM
I know its fixed...
Im just trying to understand why mine is taking so long...

Everytime i charge sc i do it before i go to bed and then when i wake up its there
This is the first time its not

winterblackice
07-24-2009, 11:37 AM
Ru sure it processed right o.0

BloodMage78
07-24-2009, 11:51 AM
I beleive so...
Iunno i sent a ticket last night so i guess ill find out soon