I did something amazing

[poohbear101690]

Hello fellow acolytes lately I have been doing some amazing things, Oh like going from east essene to phil to find my friends and praty with them.

btw most of my friends are well over the level of 50. Like one is an lv.107 archer who tested me to see if I could play like a ture healer.

I am only lv.27 and even though I get powered leveled I know how to play my class well, because my friends made sure that they wasn't wasting their time with a noob.

I made this post to say that plvling isn't a bad thing when done right. I mean if u helping someone lvl then I feel the you should also teach that person how to play.

Anyway I go to high lvl maps all the time with no help from others (I go to chant by myself all the time). And thats how I get to party with all the high lvl people :p.

[sweet-devil]

thats not something 'amazing'.. thats called 'being a healer'.. healers were born to help others lvl.. so its not power lvling as u said..

[poohbear101690]

Well yeah thats ture, but Im still in the progress of doing something amazing like going Eir. I was thinking about going to the new maps but that would alot of pots and stuff then I would need help. CV sucks because not too many come there all the time and like i dont know I was lvl 19 in Chant so that sounded amazing to me.

but yea I been busy lately so I haven't had much time lvl. And if partying with a 106lv. acher isn't power lvling then I should have no problems getting to disc at 45. besides healers have the right to be power leveled its not our faults we can't solo. Then I plan on going to pvp and smashing some neo in the ground. (neo's think they'er better then everyone cause of that agi)

[poochyenarulez]

besides healers have the right to be power leveled its not our faults we can't solo.

acolytes can solo, expectally lvl 16 - 40, and then lvl 56+

plvling, is plvling, no matter wat class u are, if ur training with some1 80 lvls higher then u, thats being plvled

also, not all acolyte/cleric/ect~ are healers, we can be tanks too >:D

[dj78x]

ya i remember when amorica (new maps) first came out and i was soloing as a level 90 cleric there.

twas harder to solo back then its easier now. But ya the only reason i dont like to solo is for the mp usage. Way to much mp to kill one monster.

I solo till someone walsk by me and sais o,O want to party?

cause ya exp sucks but least its doing somethin.

[poohbear101690]

by the way can anyone please tell me the meaning of o.O I get that way too much these days

[sweet-devil]

it means that ur confused or something like that. and btw >> speaking of the new maps.. i walked from eir to odalisque alone.. and i know a lvl 3x acolyte who walked from cv to eir then amorica. isnt that 'amazing' ._. ?

[poohbear101690]

So what is amazing? Tell me so I can start doing amazing things

[Alma_Adhara2]

agree with pooch

[poohbear101690]

acolytes can solo, expectally lvl 16 - 40, and then lvl 56+

plvling, is plvling, no matter wat class u are, if ur training with some1 80 lvls higher then u, thats being plvled

also, not all acolyte/cleric/ect~ are healers, we can be tanks too >:D

Pooch you know that soloing an aco take way too many pots. and if your not spending kron on pots then your sitting all the time which takes way too mcuh time.

So its not the fact that aco's cant solo, it just that it takes way too much mp to kill one mob. And how could healers be tanks its not possible we have low def so we would die more then tank, thats why we have dics.

The only way to get around are mp useage problem would be to go full int till lv66 then slowly add wis till you have 450+mp.

[poochyenarulez]

Pooch you know that soloing an aco take way too many pots. and if your not spending kron on pots then your sitting all the time which takes way too mcuh time.

So its not the fact that aco's cant solo, it just that it takes way too much mp to kill one mob. And how could healers be tanks its not possible we have low def so we would die more then tank, thats why we have dics.

The only way to get around are mp useage problem would be to go full int till lv66 then slowly add wis till you have 450+mp.

clerics can't tank? ROFL
i'm lvl 89, and have 201 def and 618 hp, i'm always the one in pties ahead of every1
1 reason clerics have low def, is cause, compare cleric gear to knights gear, knights gear usually +5/6ap or better, most cleric i see, have HORIBLE gear, +3/6ap would be there best gear o.O

and aco/clerics CAN solo, yea it takes awhile, but its better nothing

[tazsbigtoy]

Pooch you know that soloing an aco take way too many pots. and if your not spending kron on pots then your sitting all the time which takes way too mcuh time.

So its not the fact that aco's cant solo, it just that it takes way too much mp to kill one mob. And how could healers be tanks its not possible we have low def so we would die more then tank, thats why we have dics.

The only way to get around are mp useage problem would be to go full int till lv66 then slowly add wis till you have 450+mp.

You should be going full int until 66 as a healer. Wis is not really that helpful, it just means you will go a little longer before pot spamming, but have to spam a lot more. Int will give you more magic for healing and for illusion quake and spirit.

I solo'd from 16 to around 40 when I first started the game. I think I might have been in 2 parties. I really didn't know anyone and didn't really know what aco's were supposed to do, so I killed mobs to level. And yes we can tank, I had my air, sea, and sunset armors all up to +4 6ap and wore a love cloak most of the time. It's just that we can't tank monsters that give us much experience and even if we could, it would take a long time to kill them.

The main limit to any class in this game is what ever you make it. Keep pushing the limit and see what happens. I know a couple of clerics that solo'd the mines to collect ssf.

[sweet-devil]

clerics can't tank? ROFL
i'm lvl 89, and have 201 def and 618 hp, i'm always the one in pties ahead of every1
1 reason clerics have low def, is cause, compare cleric gear to knights gear, knights gear usually +5/6ap or better, most cleric i see, have HORIBLE gear, +3/6ap would be there best gear o.O

and aco/clerics CAN solo, yea it takes awhile, but its better nothing

pooch, u forgot something ._. not only knights have +5ap6 gears >.> i have +5ap6 gears too D:

[Alma_Adhara2]

i have +5ap6 gears too in my healer and deff isnt really awesome (:

the problem is the deff increase between old gears and new gears.. its kinda low >_>; in other classes the increase is worth way more lol

[poochyenarulez]

i have +5ap6 gears too in my healer and deff isnt really awesome (:

the problem is the deff increase between old gears and new gears.. its kinda low >_>; in other classes the increase is worth way more lol

yea, i'm not even getting new sunset gloves, cause it will only give me like 3 more def them my sea gloves i think o.O

[poohbear101690]

You should be going full int until 66 as a healer. Wis is not really that helpful, it just means you will go a little longer before pot spamming, but have to spam a lot more. Int will give you more magic for healing and for illusion quake and spirit.

I solo'd from 16 to around 40 when I first started the game. I think I might have been in 2 parties. I really didn't know anyone and didn't really know what aco's were supposed to do, so I killed mobs to level. And yes we can tank, I had my air, sea, and sunset armors all up to +4 6ap and wore a love cloak most of the time. It's just that we can't tank monsters that give us much experience and even if we could, it would take a long time to kill them.

The main limit to any class in this game is what ever you make it. Keep pushing the limit and see what happens. I know a couple of clerics that solo'd the mines to collect ssf.

When I say add wis I'm only talking about a set amout like maybe 15wis and 10sta so we can last longer and put the rest in int, and you'll still be able to heal good and have good damage with IQ, because u would only use your extra points to add the wis and sta like every 5th and 10th level.

I said go full int till after u change to cleric at lv66, then go add 15wis and 10sta while adding int. After u have the 15wis and 10sta go back to full int u be fine
thats the build I used since I started playing this game. besides our canes suck compared to a mages staff. Next time your in game go compare a mage gears to cleric gears. I mean having good gears are more important then builds.

[sweet-devil]

poohbear, we all know that the cleric's def is the suckiest def in the game.. mage's gears are better O.o.. and for clerics, builds are more important than gears, i mean, when u get agrroed, just heal urself, use an hp pot or 2 and u'll be fine, thats what i do when i get agrroed, i grab 10 hp pots and 60-70 mp, that my strategy, u wont need good gears that way

[dj78x]

clerics can't tank? ROFL
i'm lvl 89, and have 201 def and 618 hp, i'm always the one in pties ahead of every1
1 reason clerics have low def, is cause, compare cleric gear to knights gear, knights gear usually +5/6ap or better, most cleric i see, have HORIBLE gear, +3/6ap would be there best gear o.O

and aco/clerics CAN solo, yea it takes awhile, but its better nothing



lmao, my gear 4/6 or 5/6 and if u think it makes a difference i laugh at you XD

i mean ofcourse it obvsly makes a difference but not one to spend xens on.

o look, im getting hit 130 instaed of 145 now =D

[sweet-devil]

LOL i agree with u dj xD

[tazsbigtoy]

When I say add wis I'm only talking about a set amout like maybe 15wis and 10sta so we can last longer and put the rest in int, and you'll still be able to heal good and have good damage with IQ, because u would only use your extra points to add the wis and sta like every 5th and 10th level.

I said go full int till after u change to cleric at lv66, then go add 15wis and 10sta while adding int. After u have the 15wis and 10sta go back to full int u be fine
thats the build I used since I started playing this game. besides our canes suck compared to a mages staff. Next time your in game go compare a mage gears to cleric gears. I mean having good gears are more important then builds.

I have both a mage and a priest. If you want to get really depressed, compare what adding 1 point to int does for a mage as opposed to a healer. They get a lot more magic per point than we do. But I had a int/wis build and did not realize how much stronger a full int build was until I talked with some higher level healers then I restatted to a full int build, although I put a couple extra points in pow to carry a few more pots. I could heal a lot more, my spirit worked on higher level maps than before, and illusion quake was a bit less wussy. Wis justs gives you a little more of an mp pool and speeds up mp recovery. It really isn't that helpful, you might get a couple of extra heals before you spam pots, but then you will have to spam more to get full mp. It balances out, you are going to spam pots, so why not get more magic per cast? Sta is pretty usefull, especially after 80 when you spend time in the library or in suicide aoe. Being able to take even 1 extra hit might give you time to flash major heal and keep everyone alive. Some people are saying 11 men speeds up the casting rate pretty good. When I started playing the general opinion among healers was that the animations were too long and that limited how fast we could spam heal. Maybe they just never added enough.

[poohbear101690]

@pooch

You know what gets me depressed :( its the fact that I have yet to see a high level priest fight out in the field by themselves. I aways see healers sitting and waiting on a party to come get them. Now I'm only speaking for me here, so if u happen to see priest or higher solo then good for you.

And like I said before only healers have the right to party with people regardless of level, shoot I say go find someone 100 levels above and help them level. Technically its not cheating and it's not like Outspark is going to take away our freedom so there ;).

Power leveling dosen't apply to people who know how to get around the system of the game I bet your buttons If I made this game healers wouldn't be so weak and party depenent and could solo with little problems. As for the noobs who get lucky and get power leveled well thats on them for helping the noob still a noob.

[kenny162007]

hate to break it to ya but healers can't really solo "effectively" in any game.
Sure they can solo... but you can't expect a healer to solo as good as another class. Sorry O.o

[Daft_Brat]

O_o' healers can get plvled. If you're on a map where you can't even dmg the mobs and your party member is like 30+ lvls ahead of you you're getting plvled...regardless of class. I've seen healers who heal like 40 in the high maps...that's not helpful, a tiny pot would be more helpful than having to worry that the pipsqueak is going to die and getting agroed on their behalf. Plvling is plvling is plvling....

Btw. Plenty of healers solo when they're bored/can't find a party. ;] It's like the tree falling in the woods, just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen and make a sound.

[victorjr4352]

hate to break it to ya but healers can't really solo "effectively" in any game.
Sure they can solo... but you can't expect a healer to solo as good as another class. Sorry O.o

Ofcurse Healers CAN solo, i mean it'll take ages to lvl up but yeah Healers CAN solo, i lvled my healer from lvl 1 to lvl 50+ Solo killing like i did to my Archer, the problem is must of the healers want to lvl up at least 3 times a day
and that's why they decide to do some AOE. i didn't make Priest cuz i'm too busy due to RL stuff...
I remember Sweety doing 500+ damage with IQ and 800+ with Howling in Amorica Forest when she was around lvl 105.

[hypersonic]

lol op, i find that its faster to solo from lvl 16-30 as a healer or party with people with a similar lvl to you than be power lvl'ed, as the % of the experience you will be getting in a high lvl party (i assume the tank will have another healer to keep him/her alive) will be so low you'll be getting less xp per kill of these high lvl mobs than you would just killing a poyo yourself.

If you really want to lvl fast as a healer, get a party together of squire, neo, app, xenian and you, you'll get +20% party bonus, you'll kill really fast, and at that lvl the party bonus will be worth a lot, go around killing in the newb maps until you're all 3x (including the xenian, although it could have changed classes and you could all be on the 10% boost but still :P), then the group of friends can either keep lvling as a party or split, and you can go get p-lvled if you must, or you can stay with the party and have a reliable group of people to lvl with so when you all get to like lvl 66+ when healers struggle to find parties, you;ll always have someone you know that will want to lvl with you because of the experiences you all shared.

Or am i just too old fashioned for all the people who got p-lvled to AoEing lvl / priest lvl to be listened to?

Good old fashioned hard work and grind ftw, at least you can appriciate all your effort instead of just leeching.

[tazsbigtoy]

Well understand that with a priest you kill really slow, so soloing on a map that is only going to give less than 0.04-0.06 per kill and risk loosing 7% makes no sense. Back when I still trained on my priest I tried a few kills in the maps past temp and it just takes so long, and the experience isn't that easy to get if you loose it.

As far as training with people much higher than them on high level maps, I have to wonder 2 things. First is that the only way you train, because if it is you might not be learning some of the things about your skills you need to know. Spirit doesn't usually work if your mobs are a lot higher level than the healer and that is the most important defensive skill healers have. Spirit can be used to let the healer get away from an agro, but it can also be used to break moblock, pull hardhitters out of the mob. The more imagination you have the more useful it is.

The other thing I wonder about is burnout. People in this game won't train on map a where they get 0.1 per kill if they can get to map b where they get 0.4 per kill even if it takes them 10 times longer to kill on map b. It's just the way we are. Healers are the same way, we aren't going to party in skitchy if we can get a party in chant and we won't party in chant if we can get into the library, and forget the library if we can party on the new maps. Frankly for a healer those new maps are boring. Unless your tank mob locks a lot, you are basicly a healbot. I loved the icemaps and aoe as a aco and cleric. I loved the big grindparties heading to taq or sherwood. Do people even do that anymore?

[victorjr4352]

Well understand that with a priest you kill really slow, so soloing on a map that is only going to give less than 0.04-0.06 per kill and risk loosing 7% makes no sense. Back when I still trained on my priest I tried a few kills in the maps past temp and it just takes so long, and the experience isn't that easy to get if you loose it.


Have you seen a Wizard soloing Amorica, Bangle or Mardigras?
trust me it's the same thing as for Priests. slow kill and there will be always a risk of losing exp that's all. i think you're underestimating your own class tree. i bet you also think healers are not good for pvp. if that's the case then you're wrong, Healers are one the most dangerous class tree in pvp...

[poohbear101690]

hate to break it to ya but healers can't really solo "effectively" in any game.
Sure they can solo... but you can't expect a healer to solo as good as another class. Sorry O.o
Kenny I said If I was to make a game healers would be awsome Just because you haven't seen a game with awsome healers dosen't mean I can't make one.


lol op, i find that its faster to solo from lvl 16-30 as a healer or party with people with a similar lvl to you than be power lvl'ed, as the % of the experience you will be getting in a high lvl party (i assume the tank will have another healer to keep him/her alive) will be so low you'll be getting less xp per kill of these high lvl mobs than you would just killing a poyo yourself.

If you really want to lvl fast as a healer, get a party together of squire, neo, app, xenian and you, you'll get +20% party bonus, you'll kill really fast, and at that lvl the party bonus will be worth a lot, go around killing in the newb maps until you're all 3x (including the xenian, although it could have changed classes and you could all be on the 10% boost but still :P), then the group of friends can either keep lvling as a party or split, and you can go get p-lvled if you must, or you can stay with the party and have a reliable group of people to lvl with so when you all get to like lvl 66+ when healers struggle to find parties, you;ll always have someone you know that will want to lvl with you because of the experiences you all shared.

Or am i just too old fashioned for all the people who got p-lvled to AoEing lvl / priest lvl to be listened to?

Good old fashioned hard work and grind ftw, at least you can appriciate all your effort instead of just leeching.

Hypersonic I been busy lately with school so I haven't had much time to party or solo. Most of the time when I did do aoe parties it was just me and tank so no the exp was great:D. I mostly party with my Friends and I help them aoe because I'm good healer that they trust and I know how to keep myself alive even if I can't use Spirit (I don't even die when I go to chant) And I can solo kill in maps by Eir I'm only like lv29.



Well understand that with a priest you kill really slow, so soloing on a map that is only going to give less than 0.04-0.06 per kill and risk loosing 7% makes no sense. Back when I still trained on my priest I tried a few kills in the maps past temp and it just takes so long, and the experience isn't that easy to get if you loose it.

As far as training with people much higher than them on high level maps, I have to wonder 2 things. First is that the only way you train, because if it is you might not be learning some of the things about your skills you need to know. Spirit doesn't usually work if your mobs are a lot higher level than the healer and that is the most important defensive skill healers have. Spirit can be used to let the healer get away from an agro, but it can also be used to break moblock, pull hardhitters out of the mob. The more imagination you have the more useful it is.

The other thing I wonder about is burnout. People in this game won't train on map a where they get 0.1 per kill if they can get to map b where they get 0.4 per kill even if it takes them 10 times longer to kill on map b. It's just the way we are. Healers are the same way, we aren't going to party in skitchy if we can get a party in chant and we won't party in chant if we can get into the library, and forget the library if we can party on the new maps. Frankly for a healer those new maps are boring. Unless your tank mob locks a lot, you are basicly a healbot. I loved the icemaps and aoe as a aco and cleric. I loved the big grindparties heading to taq or sherwood. Do people even do that anymore?

tazsbigtoy I know how to use all my skills I'm not some noob and I played this game long engouh to play this game well, gave me some slack. And I dont like playing with noobs thats the only reason I dont party with people at level 16-25. levels 26-36 are maybes if they dont leave me to get agro, and I always party with my friends and my guild most of which take good care of their healers.

[fenixdrive]

I loved the big grindparties heading to taq or sherwood. Do people even do that anymore?

I'm happy to inform you that, yes, people still do it... like me and some of my guildies. :D I've found that doing AoE parties - as both a mobber and a healer - gets boring after the first few mobs. The only time I really do have fun with it is when my gf decides to mob with her archer in the ice maps, which allows me to weed out HH and protect myself using all of my skills (quake, spirit, ghost steal).

The potential max-ap drops in Heather is an added incentive to not mob. :3

[tazsbigtoy]

Have you seen a Wizard soloing Amorica, Bangle or Mardigras?
trust me it's the same thing as for Priests. slow kill and there will be always a risk of losing exp that's all. i think you're underestimating your own class tree. i bet you also think healers are not good for pvp. if that's the case then you're wrong, Healers are one the most dangerous class tree in pvp...

I am very aware of what priests can do in pvp. I spent 105 levels playing a healer and all but 4 of those levels were before the new maps. I have been in pvp. I also know my level 87 mage can do more damage per hit with magic fire and cast it faster than my priest can illusion quake. Solo leveling a healer becomes frustratingly inefficient and impractical at a point.

[poohbear101690]

I agree priests can do evil things in pvp they have those nasty dot skills like ghost steel, howling, and fury I think are deadly skills for healers in pvp not 100% sure. they leave you with 1hp then they go for the kill with IQ.

[sweet-devil]

omg u dont even know the DoT's of healers ?
if u dont know anything bout clerics or even acos, then dont come telling us the best build to use..

[poohbear101690]

I do math sweet-devil and my build is my build, and I don't care if u like it or not, besides my build is the best because I'm the best so there

[tazsbigtoy]

Well, I got burned out on healing, but eventually I will unpack my priest and take him the rest of the way to Paladin. Meanwhile I am glad to see there are still people enthusiastic about healing, it really is rewarding and fun, just pace yourself and enjoy and don't get too caught up and forget it's supposed to be fun.

[poohbear101690]

Well, I got burned out on healing, but eventually I will unpack my priest and take him the rest of the way to Paladin. Meanwhile I am glad to see there are still people enthusiastic about healing, it really is rewarding and fun, just pace yourself and enjoy and don't get too caught up and forget it's supposed to be fun.

yea thats true but hey I do have goals that keep me coming back to this game without my desire to get to 4th class I would have never came back last year

ok I think we can close this now
(lets see if they do)

[SkoomaLizardOnia]

I do math sweet-devil and my build is my build, and I don't care if u like it or not, besides my build is the best because I'm the best so there

he wasnt not liking it he was pointing out that you dont know what skills are DoT's. now if you dont know the skills of your class dont tell what builds are good. thats all he was saying. and about you being the best... well some might not think it. now i have never seen you so i cant say.

[agha_torab]

I heard about this awesome Acolyte named UBOOKPALADIN that ran to Odalisque Forest at level 16 and got 180% from one mob without a boost. Is that powerleveling? o.o

[poohbear101690]

I heard about this awesome Acolyte named UBOOKPALADIN that ran to Odalisque Forest at level 16 and got 180% from one mob without a boost. Is that powerleveling? o.o

man its too late now I'm like lv 34:( and what amazing thing can an aco do at 34 I need ideas people

[SkoomaLizardOnia]

why are you trying to do so many amazing things anyway? O.o

[Alma_Adhara2]

amazing is keeping alive a tank that takes 70s, not healing a tank that takes 1s along a map that will give u more than 20% per aoe O.o, when u can keep alive a tank taking damage over 50s u can say u did somehting amazing =)

[poochyenarulez]

is a cleric mobbing kramer amazing o.O
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii157/poochyenarulez/0722_D217.jpg

[sweet-devil]

misa is right i healed a tanker who was taking 45s and 50s once ;o i think thats something amazing o_o