Vendored sparkcash items!!!

[missdeena]

As all of you people should know the buying and selling of Spark cash item for ingame money is against Outsparks ToS and it can lead to being banned and/or account termination.
I wonder how many of you have seen sparkcash items in peoples vendors. The first time i saw it was a few months back and i've seen it twice this month. I've seen a dango house, a 7 days tiger raccon, and last night valantines sets A and B. How are they even able to put sparkcash items in their vendors if it's against ToS?

[Gruntbuggly]

I thought they were prizes or something as opposed to SC stuff. I may be wrong...

[Myn19]

I heard the valentines were prizes from an event,but what about the rest,especialy the 7 day dango house.

[ras-blackfire]

lol mostly ppl do stuff like that in vendor for fun for like 1gem or so >_>
ive seen it some times ><
i think u can get banned for it o.o''

[missdeena]

Yes but if it's a prize surely because it's still classed as a sparkcash related item that it would still be against ToS to sell it in a vendor for ingame money

[drigr_x]

The fact that it is a prize and traded from the GM to the winner makes the item tradable and they are free to dispose of it how they wish. This is something along the lines of what silky said.

[missdeena]

so your telling me its ok to sell a traded sparkcash item from a GM for ingame money?

[drigr_x]

Yup. At least thats how silky put it. Some guy has apparently been trying to sell a Tiger Rac from an event on Epith for months. Most people wont pay the few g (15 day tiger rac for 7.5g) just for some timed item.

[missdeena]

All i can say is there goes the " all sparkcash items bought and sold for ingame currency is a bannable offence repeat offence could result in account termination" if what your saying is true, then that should be made clear on the ToS and not by word on the forum from a GM.
As far as i can see right in this moment of time it's against the rules if it isnt against the rules a CSR,CL,GL,CM or a GM needs to change what is on the forum regarding this rule to officially clarify this amongst all players to stop further confusion

[BlackDragonEX]

All i can say is there goes the " all sparkcash items bought and sold for ingame currency is a bannable offence repeat offence could result in account termination" if what your saying is true, then that should be made clear on the ToS and not by word on the forum from a GM.
As far as i can see right in this moment of time it's against the rules if it isnt against the rules a CSR,CL,GL,CM or a GM needs to change what is on the forum regarding this rule to officially clarify this amongst all players to stop further confusion

These Sparkcash tems wen't 'Bought' therefore they don't apply to that.

[missdeena]

These Sparkcash tems wen't 'Bought' therefore they don't apply to that.

but it's a sparkcash related item, therefore its against the rules buy and sell it for ingame currency. but my point was if it's ok then it needs to be stated in the ToS so people dont get confused

[gatomon_ca]

You know some ppl still gift for in game currency >< If it doesnt' get reported I doubt they get in trouble. How do you think some ppl get rich within a week? O_O and not vendor once.

[RanmaruX]

As all of you people should know the buying and selling of Spark cash item for ingame money is against Outsparks ToS and it can lead to being banned and/or account termination.
I wonder how many of you have seen sparkcash items in peoples vendors. The first time i saw it was a few months back and i've seen it twice this month. I've seen a dango house, a 7 days tiger raccon, and last night valantines sets A and B. How are they even able to put sparkcash items in their vendors if it's against ToS?

You're probably referring to my perma valentines here.. They're not sparkcash items but rewards from GM in an event at early 2008, they're tradeable and not SC items at all, they're non-timed costumes that can be traded and vendored from an event. They're not tagged as SC items which is why you can trade and vendor them freely, and it's not against the ToS to trade these items.

There are only a few of these items so some people like you get confused and just think they're SC items when they're not.

Hope that helps clear it up for you.

Edit: Oh and to clear it up a bit more, they're actually not for sale, I only put them up for display when I happen to vendor something else. ^^ Thus the 1000gem pricetag.

[Roseanna]

They're not tagged as SC items which is why you can trade and vendor them freely, and it's not against the ToS to trade these items.
I kind of remember something about being able to lend them to friends and whatnot but not being allowed to actually sell them for profit, since they were given to us as gifts. But yeah, people flipped like this when people put them on display on Teva, too. People need to realize that unbuyable doesn't always = taking offers. Sometimes unbuyable just = showing off.

[winterblackice]

These Sparkcash tems wen't 'Bought' therefore they don't apply to that.

:0 Ichigo finally pwned a thread. :/

[chris0270]

As all of you people should know the buying and selling of Spark cash item for ingame money is against Outsparks ToS and it can lead to being banned and/or account termination.
I wonder how many of you have seen sparkcash items in peoples vendors. The first time i saw it was a few months back and i've seen it twice this month. I've seen a dango house, a 7 days tiger raccon, and last night valantines sets A and B. How are they even able to put sparkcash items in their vendors if it's against ToS?

yes they r sc items but were obtained through a gm event so they can sell because they weren't purchased in the store... someone correct me if im wrong

[RanmaruX]

yes they r sc items but were obtained through a gm event so they can sell because they weren't purchased in the store... someone correct me if im wrong

Well not all of them are SC items at all, like the valentine costume she speaks of. They're not SC items, these costumes are not and have never been available in the store like this.

The ones in the store are part of the pack and have time limit + critical bonus, neither of these are in the event items.

It's like saying 70 blue weapons are SC items because they look like weapon skins lmao.

[Fre_ak]

These Sparkcash tems wen't 'Bought' therefore they don't apply to that.

or report it.

[Gruntbuggly]

I don't see how you could class them as spark cash items if spark cash was never involved in the process of procuring them. I assure you GMs don't use SC to buy them to gift them to you ^.^

[missdeena]

ya but the point is they look like they are from the store same description ect but my point is that it should be in the ToS to stop this confusion further. Not disbelieving any of you im just saying ^^ because whether you say they are or aren't sparkcash items they are still identicle to the stuff from the store :P they either need to change the colour of name of the item in question or explain it in there ToS

[Chaola]

If you had read the V-suit's title of Ran, you'd know that the title and its color AREN'T the same than the SC item.

[RanmaruX]

ya but the point is they look like they are from the store same description ect but my point is that it should be in the ToS to stop this confusion further. Not disbelieving any of you im just saying ^^ because whether you say they are or aren't sparkcash items they are still identicle to the stuff from the store :P they either need to change the colour of name of the item in question or explain it in there ToS

Actually no, with the valentine costumes the description is nothing like with the one from the store and the item info looks completely different, and there are no special additions such as +10% critical bonus, and no hat with +5% critical, it's very easy to tell it's not the 30-day pack item from the store.

I'll post some pics for you and you'll immediately notice the difference.

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/RanmaruX/screenshot157.jpg?t=1248364987
Image 1: Valentine's costume from event. (Does it really look like it's for sale..? Lol. O.o)

http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq117/RanmaruX/screenshot156.jpg?t=1248364986
Image 2: Valentine's costume from the store (comes in pack with hat, raccoon, and basic beauty coupon)


Also I remind you, the event item does not have any critical bonuses like mostly all costumes purchased with sparkcash, it only gives you the look of the costume, as such the one purchased from the store is superior to use with the quite high critical bonus it grants and is the reason I use the store ones while I have those left. Would be a shame to let them waste away too since I did buy enough for about a year a while back, when they were pretty high on price too.

[Fre_ak]

idk wat confuse u so much O.o

those items are from event. in order for the winner to get their prize, GM had to give them by the trade windows..that why those items are tradeable...no SC involved.

so technically, those players arent "selling" SC stuff. because those 7days items wasnt bought from the store with SC

if u are still not happy, u can report to make sure. because we might be wrong.
(just a little recap lol)

[missdeena]

and what about people who dont know that? and for those that dont go on the forum? how are they gonna know any different?

[RanmaruX]

and what about people who dont know that? and for those that dont go on the forum? how are they gonna know any different?

They can always ask.

I always tell people mine are from event if asked, assuming the player whispering me is still online when I get back to my vendor.

Or you can screenshot and report it, if the CSR responding is nice enough they will hopefully explain it to you.

Whichever the case, they're not sparkcash items. ^^

And I would never actually sell mine. :)

[missdeena]

thats all i wanted to point out i mean like someone said earlier. i bet lots of people have been confused over it >.> me being one i never knew any of this till today and i've been playing over a year now lol. Maybe it would make sence to put it on event rules and regulations or something idk lol

[mowser]

Or, because there's like 4 a server (approximate), there's quite the chance that 99% of the population won't be bothered by it...........

If anyone has questions, they can ask around........it's not that hard to get info in game, it's in fact usually easier and more accurate than from the forums >.>

[SKiNG]

Let me clear this up.

The items you see as tradeable are illegitimate items that did not pass through quality check. They were given out unauthorized. The Valentine's weapons however were acquired through an event in 2008 and were supposed to be temporary. The person in charge at that time did not follow the rules. Same with the Valentine's costumes.

So what does this mean to those users? Are they in trouble?

The Valentine's items are accounted for, for the fact that it was planned to give out those items. But not intended as permanent. We will not hold those users accountable. But we do ask that they do not trade/sell those items. This has been brought up before. We CAN take action if we choose but that will depend on the situation brought forth.

The other items however are not accounted for. If caught, the item will be replaced with the same item that has gone through quality check or something in equal value.

I hope this clears it up. If you have further questions, you can send me a PM.

[lawrq]

lol said the owner of the truth o.o

[devin_nicolai]

so your telling me its ok to sell a traded sparkcash item from a GM for ingame money?

Lmao. ITS FROM AN EVENT.
fail thread.

[winterblackice]

ya but the point is they look like they are from the store same description ect but my point is that it should be in the ToS to stop this confusion further. Not disbelieving any of you im just saying ^^ because whether you say they are or aren't sparkcash items they are still identicle to the stuff from the store :P they either need to change the colour of name of the item in question or explain it in there ToS

Looks can be deceiving.

[wunamon]

there is a difference between SC shop and Event items. Event items are basically SC items given to players for completing an event and are tradeable. they do not fall under the trading SC items for in-game money. Also event items can be sold in vendor. On the other hand, SC items that is items bought from the game store cannot be trade in-game because it is not physically possible. Rather people pay others to gift them SC items for In-game currency. this is what Outspark ToS is against. feel free to verify this info.

[missdeena]

there is a difference between SC shop and Event items. Event items are basically SC items given to players for completing an event and are tradeable. they do not fall under the trading SC items for in-game money. Also event items can be sold in vendor. On the other hand, SC items that is items bought from the game store cannot be trade in-game because it is not physically possible. Rather people pay others to gift them SC items for In-game currency. this is what Outspark ToS is against. feel free to verify this info.

did you not read what skings post?