Should we revolt?

[XelveX]

OMFG, this is getting ridiculous, should we revolt against all the classes that are not clerics? I mean like lots of threads in this section has something to do with clerics complaining that they can't do anything else but heal and they shouldn't tank. Everyday there is at least 30 people saying "heal", "heal me", or "rez!!!!!!",and there is only 5 out of that 30 who say "plz heal", "plz heal me" or "plz rez me". Its so annoying when people aren't polite. I, myself only heal party members and people who say "please" with their requests.

Plus, we could actually win this war. We clerics can dish out a lot of damage when we want to, am I right? Plus, we have skills that heal, buff, and make us invincible. These skills can make us invincible as the skill invincible absorbs damage, and heal when we take damage, and the buffs soften up damages and increases our stats temporarily.

Think about it and comment on it.

~XelveX

EDIT: I'm not saying we HAVE to do it, but I'm saying if it were to happen.

[nerdzo]

seriously, i think its pointless.
just my opinion.

[Nerria]

Cleric Guild < Balanced, GW-Oriented, Guild

Clerics need to stop whining about this crap, seriously. You kind of people put shame to the class I know and love to play. What is getting out of hand is not other players, but the certain clerics who whine themselves. You're just as bad.

Anyways, I don't think we should revolt. That is stupid. No, wait. You revolt.

I'll stay on my Cleric and buff, rev, heal anyone and everyone. You can sit back and enjoy the freedom, maybe some others will join you. I for one, am not giving up my friends, random XP parties, and my guild to go on a silly revolt which makes no sense.

Just because people treat you rudely doesn't mean the entire class should organize a revolt and stop caring. Silly, silly. And a waste of precious time at that.

[Kholai]

Stop hanging around fighters, start hanging around mages. They love you and appreciate you for your healing mojo, and you can always clank for them, making fighters optional.

As for a "war" of clerics, why bother? There is no united force of all clerics, nor is it true that every member of every class is equally rude, making punishing the many for the mistakes of the few singularly unfair.

[Semaj]

jsut be more selective who you party with, and ignore the random peoploe begging for buffs. =_= revolting wont get you anywhere....

[akiana]

revolt? lol ... that's a bit extreme

in other mmo's that i've played, clerics/healers were PAID to revive players :D

if clerics charge for revive, people will start to pay attention to their hp more.... xD

if that should happen here, i think the cleric's class will be even richer ... lol; but the thing is, in other mmo's the resurrection gives back a certain % of experience ...

[Roseanna]

Revolting isn't necessary. Just don't heal/rez the people who are demanding and try to boss you around. If you don't like or aren't appreciated by the people you're in a party with, leave the party and either solo or find a new party.

I agree that it's annoying to be pushed around but not everyone is that way, so not everyone should be punished. The people who don't deserve our sp don't get it. The people who do deserve our sp get more of it. :) I still love healing/rezzing/curing people at random and will continue to do so.

[farard]

I'm with you, clerics revolt, don't heal, res or buff unless the magic word is used. The only prob with the revolution will be the clerics that have a servile mentality, maggotts will always be with us. :-))))))))))

[babykitt10]

It's not the class it's the player who is in that class.

Majority of players who are low lvl's are not that mature to understand that it's not our job to heal them. We don't have to heal you because we are clerics we'll heal you because we want to help or your 2polite to ask...

If you're not a cleric(or even if you are) and you have been healed, buffed, or to make it short I'll use "Helped" by a cleric, consider it as privilege because we are spending like 5+ secs of our life to help you...

and come to think of it every heal, buff, res needs sp (money = time, sp = stones/pots, stones/pots = money, therefor sp = time)....

and you guys expect us to help you for free? lol ^_^

[XelveX]

It's not the class it's the player who is in that class.

Majority of players who are low lvl's are not that mature to understand that it's not our job to heal them. We wont heal you because we are clerics we'll heal you because we want to help or your 2polite to ask...

If you're not a cleric(or even if you are) and you have been healed, buffed, or to make it short I'll use "Helped" by a cleric,


uuhh... what was that? i dont really understand that...




Lol, if only clerics can heal sp, man, that would be so awesome lol, clerics healing clerics (hp) and then some other clerics would be trading in their hp to convert into sp to use for healing and attacking and buffing.

[TheJello]

I don't normally ask. Unless a cleric is near and in view and can ressurect. Then I ask if they would mind rezzing me.

[nightkoopa]

OMFG, this is getting ridiculous, should we revolt against all the classes that are not clerics? I mean like lots of threads in this section has something to do with clerics complaining that they can't do anything else but heal and they shouldn't tank. Everyday there is at least 30 people saying "heal", "heal me", or "rez!!!!!!",and there is only 5 out of that 30 who say "plz heal", "plz heal me" or "plz rez me". Its so annoying when people aren't polite. I, myself only heal party members and people who say "please" with their requests.

Plus, we could actually win this war. We clerics can dish out a lot of damage when we want to, am I right? Plus, we have skills that heal, buff, and make us invincible. These skills can make us invincible as the skill invincible absorbs damage, and heal when we take damage, and the buffs soften up damages and increases our stats temporarily.

Think about it and comment on it.

~XelveX

EDIT: I'm not saying we HAVE to do it, but I'm saying if it were to happen.

Told you clerics where greedy *******s see REVOLT AGAINST CLERICS0 :D

[XelveX]

Told you clerics where greedy *******s see REVOLT AGAINST CLERICS0 :D

HUH?, are you saying that I'm saying we, clerics, should revolt against greedy *******s?

[SpiritS]

Lol, if only clerics can heal sp, man, that would be so awesome lol, clerics healing clerics (hp) and then some other clerics would be trading in their hp to convert into sp to use for healing and attacking and buffing.

There is a skill call sacrifice which restore your entire party HP and SP at the moment you die.

Revolt useful,if you think after your revolt those people will treat you nicer?Then do it.For me,it is waste of time.As long as you do your job nicely people will appericate you.

Yes it is kind of annoyed when immature people blaming their death on us (if he not pay attenttion on his hp and die,but if he do well and he die it is your problem)but there is still alot people out there you know,so quit the party and join the other.If you solo then it is up to you want to save or not.

[joecracker]

yes! but i wil be healing a fighter ;) now think about that

[XelveX]

yes! but i wil be healing a fighter ;) now think about that

lol? spell check and grammar dude...

[farard]

what is annoying is the "RES ME" but no location to go with it, the comes the remark " STUPID CLERIC U LET ME DIE" this has been said by all classes. They accuse us of their failure, but what really grips my 4X are the clerics who agree with them.
There are two kinds of CLERICS those with BALLS and the SERVANT type who will bend over backwards and except their own lowly lot in life.

[DrowMistress]

Cleric Guild < Balanced, GW-Oriented, Guild

Clerics need to stop whining about this crap, seriously. You kind of people put shame to the class I know and love to play. What is getting out of hand is not other players, but the certain clerics who whine themselves. You're just as bad.

Anyways, I don't think we should revolt. That is stupid. No, wait. You revolt.

I'll stay on my Cleric and buff, rev, heal anyone and everyone. You can sit back and enjoy the freedom, maybe some others will join you. I for one, am not giving up my friends, random XP parties, and my guild to go on a silly revolt which makes no sense.

Just because people treat you rudely doesn't mean the entire class should organize a revolt and stop caring. Silly, silly. And a waste of precious time at that.

Thank you. -.-

[rpg_gamer_gamez]

well now why don't you just stop healing those that aren't polite...
Does it kill if people should at least say "please" c'mon guys you'll have more friends if your polite.. I wish I could just PK..

[Kizuku]

Lol, if only clerics can heal sp, man, that would be so awesome lol, clerics healing clerics (hp) and then some other clerics would be trading in their hp to convert into sp to use for healing and attacking and buffing.
That would be so awesome, yet so unfair at the same time. XD
Holy Shield and most of the other high level all Clerics guilds would pretty much win all guild wars, (except for those ones where everyone seems to split up and they end up getting picked off one by one....) if they don't already, that is.

Anyway, to the topic again, I don't have a Cleric, myself, but I think it's unfair to blame it on everyone else. Even though I'm not a Cleric, I get annoyed when people are rude and pushy to Clerics. It's not my problem, but it's unfair to rebel against everyone else when there are people who aren't rude out there. They'd be getting unfair punishment and lose trust in the people who are held in high regard for their usefulness.

[farard]

OK just had a VERY BAD day doing KQ, on the basis of this day all clerics repeat all clerics should refuse to heal, res, buff the other classes. Really came across seriously very bad players, either that or their monitor, keyboard, mouse was defective along with their mental process. Also I'm sad to say clerics were involved as well, a very sad day for the cleric class.

SO AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED THE REVOLUTION AS STARTED

[Brunya]

Yeah yeah yeah, now you go do that while the "bend down clerics" go help people out >_>

Going on revolt won't do anything, cept make some clerics be disliked, while some Clerics could be seen as nicer people.

Now in case of rudeness/politeness/whatnot, if they're being chased by monsters, I will heal them unconditionally (Really, it's VERY hard to type out the whole word please when you're kiting a monster or getting a bit of distance for comfort)

[Xanthros]

and come to think of it every heal, buff, res needs sp (money = time, sp = stones/pots, stones/pots = money, therefor sp = time)....

and you guys expect us to help you for free? lol ^_^

You neglect one thing... (and no, I'm not a fighter, I'm a cleric) ... they use SP to keep aggro off of you, and beat on the NPC - want them to charge you for that? (Yes, had to play devils advocate just to see what the response will be)

X-

[Telhar]

yawn. Clerics are not any more polite, more skilled, more mature than any other class. Other classes depend more on cleric, theres more interaction with one. Really, at my level my impression is that clerics are the worst players, i admit its probably because if some other class does a poor job, result are usually not that bad and might even go unnoticed :D

having a heal and ressurect does not validate special treatment for cleric, if a fighter neglects to taunt the mob he is tanking, how often do you see a "please" in front of taunt request? Odds are its much less frequent than with ress request

Just please stop making those poor cleric neglection threads, complain about immature players if you like :D

[SpiritS]

Please be notice that:
The class does nothing wrong it is the player who make the class seem like worst,letting the class get bad reputation.
So if truly want to blame,blame the player who play the class like that.

Yes many people now choose cleric just because they can heal and tank which they think is cool(even bot using cleric also.)Well if you want to revolt go ahead I wont stop you,if you want to charge money because you serve or other reason then go ahead start the revolt,I do want to see got how many cleric will join...

By the way,if you dun like to help why you choose cleric is it just because the reason which can heal and tank?Yes a magic word from other people(including cleric also,dont think a cleric recieve your help will thanks also)will be nice but you should help other also even they cant say the word please.Yes I agree what Telhar say when the fighter(in your party)are yelling for heal or please then you are a bad cleric who cant do your job good.If you outside party,then it is up to you want to heal,buff or revive.But it that really cost your sp so much??

If you dont start then stop whining around which making cleric look bad and focus to be a good cleric.If you dont have the will to serve then stop play cleric.

[XelveX]

SO AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED THE REVOLUTION AS STARTED

YAWN...

Oh goodie, I started the Cleric Revolution

LET THE WAR BEGIN! >.<



Just kidding lol, and oh yeah, this is starting to seem like the American Revolution rofl rofl rofl :D And uhh.. guys? I'm just saying that if it were tp happen O_O so don't blame me, I'm just fanning the tension between classes =P

[Sayvage]

mfff...

life's already that ****ty, don't add useless troubles to the game.
you gonna make nothing any better with a "revolution" except the population of the server that's gonna decrease a lot... stop spoiling Fiesta, this free MMO kicks a$$$$ olol rox 1337.. humf.... sorry ..

[AriesMehjor]

Dude theres no point in crying over spilled milk. I mean really.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7872/thestrifede8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Semaj]

Dude theres no point in crying over spilled milk. I mean really.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/7872/thestrifede8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

i agree. if you dont like your party then quit and find a better one. if your in KQ and you dont get partied dont heal or rez, just worry about yourself. if it fails it fails. try again later. eventually the lower lv players will realize that its a good thing to treat clerics well.

[SiphoneiMillei]

I don't think a revolt is so much neccessary as the need for an understanding of what it is like to be a cleric. There's alot of people that play the game that have multiple characters so most know what it is like on all sides.

I try to help people that aren't in my parties when I can, but they know not to ***** at me if I can't. And anyone that is in my party I tell them up front not to rush into things and if they run off I am not helping them. I only have a few problems. They tend to learn after they die a few times and have lost over 1k exp. ^_^

[XelveX]

Are you guys blaming me? I told you, I'm not trying to start one just sending the idea out -.-. Read the entire thread again

[Xanthros]

Are you guys blaming me? I told you, I'm not trying to start one just sending the idea out -.-. Read the entire thread again

*temp thread jack*

Your danasoft sig block is grossly mis-reporting my IP and browser type both.

*we now continue with your regularly scheduled revolting*

X-

[More-san]

seriously, i think its pointless.
just my opinion.

Ah but you see thats arguable because
a)Who doesn't love a good revolution
b)its fun
and c)I feel like we need a bit of vendetta in this game:cool:

[Sharajen]

Someone call me when reality has been re-instated, for now my brain will continue to laugh.

Grow up, don't pt with rude people, and move on. This is a complete waste of time. Your a cleric, heal, or go solo and don't pt. It's as simple as that.

[Leedles]

Hate to break it to you, but you're never going to get every single cleric to revolt. It's just not going to happen.

[Xanthros]

u know wat y dont u just shuve it we r clerics hear us roar and we should revolt just to let the other classes find out how hard it is to play this game with out clerics. people would have to tele when the die and go with out buffs really i think we should and i will make anouther form and get them to revolt i know people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, you won't get the intelligent clerics to revolt... so whoever you know, will be following your clueless, elitist attitude blindly and I'll laugh as you end up on a 'no party ever' list that'd get started by those who want to have decent people in their party. What would a revolt prove? That you can brainwash your friends into following like puppets?

Rez clerics are a dime a dozen.. if you won't rez them, someone else will. You're a disgrace to our class. (being cleric) If you take this as being inflammatory, that's probably because I couldn't think of anything remotely close to semi-tactful to say about your attitude other than it needs an adjustment.

My highly opinionated .02,

X-

[Scarlets]

Nah, you can always ignore them. o_O I myself get pissed whenever people go, "Clericz juzzz heall! Dun fight!" but hey, that's what you get when you choose a class that is not really meant for fighting. I do smack the mobs around a bit whenever people aren't dying. :)

[Semaj]

u know wat y dont u just shuve it we r clerics hear us roar and we should revolt just to let the other classes find out how hard it is to play this game with out clerics. people would have to tele when the die and go with out buffs really i think we should and i will make anouther form and get them to revolt i know people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i doubt you know enough people (or people at the right levels) to even make a difference. do you know how many clerics there are man? In Closed beta there wasnt enough clerics when i played (origionally was a mage), i started a cleric JUST to help in KQ and to help people. now my cleric is my main and fav. char. that i play.

like its been said before, go ahead and try, it wont change anything. your wasting time and effort, and youll only be hurting yourself in the long run.

oh ya, this thread is one of the reasons why clerics are getting such a bad rap with the other classes.

[Semaj]

Nah, you can always ignore them. o_O I myself get pissed whenever people go, "Clericz juzzz heall! Dun fight!" but hey, that's what you get when you choose a class that is not really meant for fighting. I do smack the mobs around a bit whenever people aren't dying. :)

we all love to smack around monsters when we're not to buisy saving our parties lives ;)
and well, its annoying but sometimes we shouldnt fight, there's many times in CP, VT, or in Uraga where ive been to buisy healing to fight. *shrug* but who cares, i get faster xp in a party, even if less drops.

[SpiritS]

Semaj if they want revolt,we should stay aside let them revolt,we sit there drinking beer and eating popcorn watch the show,since they fail to listen what we talking about so let them learn from action.

Agree with Semaj,we cleric only attck mob when we are free,we can simply attack do make the grinding faster if we no need to heal our mate.We can also heal and attack in the same time(well not suggested if when you lagging and not expert enough.)

[Driftlock]

So many threads in the Cleric forums lately make me /Facepalm

I'll give you pie if a 'revolt' ever actually worked. In fact, you'd be doing plenty of clerics a favor. Those who wished it and have talent would be able to be that cleric in a party just that much easier.

I'm surprised this thread is still being bumped to the top...I wish threads like these could be replied to without further bumping :(

WTB meaningful cleric threads. There were quite a few when I first rolled cleric and actually enjoyed reading them and found good advice, now they're few and far between.

[Semaj]

thats because there's a million lower level players that keep postinig meaningless threads, and want to blame everyone else for their problems. If they would actually become better clerics (or just party with players who were good) there would be no need for these threads >.<

[Driftlock]

Well, that's part of it, but it's also (no offense to those who are mature regardless of this.) there's a good portion of the playerbase that's pretty young, and I honestly don't think they often have the patience to make a competent thread. The might have a good idea or post but they get carried away in the 'hype' I've often seen them have in the game.

Edited for a stupid spelling error >.>

[Semaj]

i agree. i have also noticed that *many* of the newer players that act this way are the younger players. i wasnt gonna bring age into it, but its the truth reguardelss. at least from what ive seen in game since Open Beta started. it was totally different in Closed Beta..

[Tamlinari]

Why do some players complain so much about being a Cleric but yet they continue to play as a Cleric?
No one is forcing anyone to play as a Cleric.
And no one can force you to do things against your will either (at least not in the game)
If you want to tank then do that!
If you don't want to revive anyone or heal them then don't.
Reject any invitation to a party that you don't want to be in.
No one is forcing you to be a good Cleric, be a bad Cleric if that is that you want.
No one is forcing you to be a support Cleric either, be a battle Cleric if that is what you want to be.
There are just as many if not more closed fist Clerics in the game as there are open palm Clerics.
Example,

Fighter: Heal me Cleric!
Cleric: Use your own stones and pots!

Fighter: I'll tank, you keep me buffed.
Cleric: Set drops to sequential then.
Fighter: LOL, No!
Cleric: You are on your own then. *Cleric quits party*

See how easy that is?

Stop complaining about how much Clerics are abused and take some personal responsibility.
Just my opinion.

[Amathyst]

OMFG, this is getting ridiculous, should we revolt against all the classes that are not clerics? I mean like lots of threads in this section has something to do with clerics complaining that they can't do anything else but heal and they shouldn't tank. Everyday there is at least 30 people saying "heal", "heal me", or "rez!!!!!!",and there is only 5 out of that 30 who say "plz heal", "plz heal me" or "plz rez me". Its so annoying when people aren't polite. I, myself only heal party members and people who say "please" with their requests.

Plus, we could actually win this war. We clerics can dish out a lot of damage when we want to, am I right? Plus, we have skills that heal, buff, and make us invincible. These skills can make us invincible as the skill invincible absorbs damage, and heal when we take damage, and the buffs soften up damages and increases our stats temporarily.

Think about it and comment on it.

~XelveX

EDIT: I'm not saying we HAVE to do it, but I'm saying if it were to happen.
You're the only one I see saying it's a war, buddy. People play how they like, if others class-bash, then they need to grow up and stop labling people they see and meet. To say one cleric does not heal you, does not mean all clerics will not heal you. Such people who pre-judge probably need to learn from experience. People who demand heal's will not always get them. As in the 'real world', using manners gets you a lot further than demands.
It's a classic case of PEBKAC, nothing more.

[Semaj]

both Tamlinari and Amathyst deserve a cookie. *hands each a cookie*

[Xanthros]

-snip-
It's a classic case of PEBKAC, nothing more.


Well said, SNAFU usually plays a part too, given the human psyche - past events are a good indicator of future ones.

My .02,

X-

[XelveX]

You're the only one I see saying it's a war, buddy. People play how they like, if others class-bash, then they need to grow up and stop labling people they see and meet. To say one cleric does not heal you, does not mean all clerics will not heal you. Such people who pre-judge probably need to learn from experience. People who demand heal's will not always get them. As in the 'real world', using manners gets you a lot further than demands.
It's a classic case of PEBKAC, nothing more.

DID YOU ACTUALLY READ THE EDIT??? I just started this discussion, nothing more. You guys take things too serisouly, its a game, you die, you die, nothing more. I never started this war, never started a revolt and I'm not asking for one


P.S sorry didn't get invivled in this earilier ,busy =.=
P.S.S WOW didnt know this thread can go up to 5 pages

[Ky_Atto]

This is a reply to the initial message:

I'm not reading any more of this thread, this is old news, this has been done before, this is exactly like any other MMO when you're a healing class. YOU ARE A HEALING CLASS - that said, get over it.

[runkler]

clerics we have nothing to complain about it is our job to heal rez and buff, lets all get along every class has there own part in fiesta but our job is to heal buff and rez but i hear where ur coming from outher classes some times yell at us to heal them in a fight but all healing buff and rez takes sp and they have cool down too. but dont complain too much ok we all need to get along. so im changing my vote to NO.

lets all get along dont be mad if u died

Russell TEVA Sever

[adslm8591]

my main is not a cleric but i do understand where this is going .....and i say its stupid i mean of course there will be rude ppl in the game GET THE HELL OVER IT its not tht big of an issue....the bigger issues r the bots and hackers tht get into the game...tht is my opinion

[Balder]

My apologies but this has got to be the most stupidest thread ever. I picked the cleric class because it suits my personality: helping people.

I lurves healing, buffing and even rezzing people, 'cause one, it makes me likeable and I get rarely feel solo in this game and two...

I FEEL LIKE A GOD! (insert evil laughter)

You wanna revolt? Just quit your job class and pick another one, sheesh.

[Saruin]

I play both a cleric AND a fighter. When you're doing a tank or taking damage for someone else, it's kinda hard to keep focused on typing rather than fighting.

Of course, I always say at least 'ty' but I don't mind if they don't. It's just a game.

I always just heal random people as I run around anyway. :P

[Fethris]

if your you can heal someone who needs it,it should be done without question,were all in this together,sharing is caring says the bear

[Fethris]

and also,whats to complain about,the games friggin free anyways

[skippy_san]

my opinion .....

Im a fighter and i can solo most times.. however i do at times need a cleric and usually have to ask for a rez , but i do not forget to say please and thank you.


fighters need clerics archers and mages the same as every class is co-dependant on each other ....



revolt if you like but i say go in to robo kq without the other 3 classes betcha dont win

[Semaj]

im so tired of this thread, can we please just let it die and focus on more important issues?

such as the problems with Blood/Trip?
.....anything but this....*walks out of thread*

[absolut]

i can see how it is from both sides, as a non cleric u expect them to do what they are supposed to do. and there are good clerics and bad clerics no in between. as for the cleric side of it, i can understand that 500 ppl want u to buff them from point A to point B. but u dont have to buff all of them, or not even 1 if u dont want to. if u do then good for u and if not thats fine, just please dont whine about the class u chose.

[SamusNerd]

i hate those inpatient ppl that cant take the time to spell please.i mean if your gonna beg and spell plz at least make it look like you tried.

[taneeshag]

what is this about a revolt?? seriously...just don't heal or revive the rude one's point blank. end of discussion man..but seriously people, what would be great is that since we can rev people.........we should be able to revive ourselves!!!! why even have the ability if we can't do that much..think about it. sure we can do it to others, but if we got into a serious battle we would most likely be the first one's to die. then who would be there to rev us if there were no other clerics around?

[SpiritS]

Well there wont be a skill you can rev yourself but you got a skill restore your party HP and SP at the moment you die call sacrifice,happy?This skill is let you more understand at cleric spirit,they help their mate even the moment they die.

If you dont like that then please dont play cleric,how the hell you going to revive yourself when you are dieing.Yes in battle if you being attack because heal aggro then it is the tanker fault because he fail to keep aggro the mob,just quit the party who fail to protect you;but if you run in front lure the mob to attack one then it is your own fault.

Lastly can you all let this tread die?It is meaningless to let this tread keep on going.And I hope by this tread ppl will know who the intelligent cleric,who the noob.

[maximum]

what is this about a revolt?? seriously...just don't heal or revive the rude one's point blank. end of discussion man..but seriously people, what would be great is that since we can rev people.........we should be able to revive ourselves!!!! why even have the ability if we can't do that much..think about it. sure we can do it to others, but if we got into a serious battle we would most likely be the first one's to die. then who would be there to rev us if there were no other clerics around?
lol.... THEN WOULD THE CLERICS BE INVICIBLE!!!Think about it....

Fighter: YAY!! i finally killed an cleric!!
mage: YEAH!! That was tough... he healed himself all the time..
Archer: But now is he finally dead!!


Fighter,mage,archer: ......
Mage: ***!!!!!?!?
Archer: He is alive!!
Fighter: ************!!!!!! HOW IN **** CAN WE KILL HIM IF HE REZ HIMSELF ALL THE TIME?!?!

understand what i mean?

[Justiceblades]

lol.... THEN WOULD THE CLERICS BE INVICIBLE!!!Think about it....

Fighter: YAY!! i finally killed an cleric!!
mage: YEAH!! That was tough... he healed himself all the time..
Archer: But now is he finally dead!!


Fighter,mage,archer: ......
Mage: ***!!!!!?!?
Archer: He is alive!!
Fighter: ************!!!!!! HOW IN **** CAN WE KILL HIM IF HE REZ HIMSELF ALL THE TIME?!?!

understand what i mean?


that's just childish thinking... I'd like to say this game was made more for parties. Can clerics provide the damage done by mages and archers on mobs much higher lvl than u? and can clerics secure the safety of its party like fighters do? dun be naive. Yes cleric is important, but so are the other classes. U can choose to play with U and U alone going on a revolt. But u lose out on the benefits and entertainment of a party...
FYI: If u are pitting ur cleric class against the rest of the classes... the clerics will probably have reaction like: *** WE cant heal in time..and hey WE cant REVIVE fast enough!!! Dun believe go try robo kq with all clerics, and robo kq is only a small part of what the other classes can do against u. SO YOU ARE NOT INVINCIBLE NOR THE MOST IMPORTANT.

To the other clerics who helps the other classes <3 u guys loads

[boomboy3002]

hey buddy calm down archers pwn clerics and i hate clerics due to their cheapness in pvp they think they own the friken game so just shut up and do your job

[Xanthros]

hey buddy calm down archers pwn clerics and i hate clerics due to their cheapness in pvp they think they own the friken game so just shut up and do your job

What server do you play on, and what's your IGN out of curiosity? :D

X-

[Semaj]

hey buddy calm down archers pwn clerics and i hate clerics due to their cheapness in pvp they think they own the friken game so just shut up and do your job

they archer has to be a higher level than the cleric. or the cleric has to suck at pvp, or have a mostly spr build. ive killed plenty of archers in guild wars. if i can catch you i can usually kill you. or at least keep you busy till one of my guild mates can come over and stomp all over you.

whats your ign man? that way ill make sure never to party with you because of your poor attitude towards clerics.

[SpiritS]

hey buddy calm down archers pwn clerics and i hate clerics due to their cheapness in pvp they think they own the friken game so just shut up and do your job

Is it,I though cleric own archer once the cleric get close to archer.I see many guild war where archer being own by cleric...well i dont have personal experince just see before.:rolleyes:

Lastly please give me your IGN,cause just want to know..

[RelikHunter]

DID YOU ACTUALLY READ THE EDIT??? I just started this discussion, nothing more. You guys take things too serisouly, its a game, you die, you die, nothing more. I never started this war, never started a revolt and I'm not asking for one


P.S sorry didn't get invivled in this earilier ,busy =.=
P.S.S WOW didnt know this thread can go up to 5 pages

game just plain sucks help files pathetic no tutorial quest as stated no instructions on how to begin

[tameas]

clerics always complain being mostly made up of whiners.

clerics are so full of it most of the time no one in their right mind would give them a second thought.

Clerics revolting against other classes ... NEVER could they do such a thing.

Clerics are whimps and don't have the courage to do anything but serve others as a true slave should.

Clerics are only useful for ventilation because they never stop YAPPING about how mistreated they are.

( the above opinions are not the opinions of the poster but have been heard from others conversations )

[Crystall]

when i first started fiesta, i was a mage- now i have a new cleric

not once had I chased after a cleric shouting 'heal me, heal heal heal'

The only thing I ever asked for a res and that's it. I never pestered people to heal

i think every class should just work together

[EternalSecrets]

Cleric Guild < Balanced, GW-Oriented, Guild

Clerics need to stop whining about this crap, seriously. You kind of people put shame to the class I know and love to play. What is getting out of hand is not other players, but the certain clerics who whine themselves. You're just as bad.

Anyways, I don't think we should revolt. That is stupid. No, wait. You revolt.

I'll stay on my Cleric and buff, rev, heal anyone and everyone. You can sit back and enjoy the freedom, maybe some others will join you. I for one, am not giving up my friends, random XP parties, and my guild to go on a silly revolt which makes no sense.

Just because people treat you rudely doesn't mean the entire class should organize a revolt and stop caring. Silly, silly. And a waste of precious time at that.

I haven't read through every sing reply on this thread, and I don't plan to. For as far as I did read, I think Nerria summed up my response pretty good. Kudos. I am new to this game still, but I have a lvl 2X Cleric that I started some-odd days ago. In my personal opinion, a revolt is stupid and completely pointless. As Nerria states Cleric Guild < Balanced, GW-Oriented Guild. You state that we don't NEED the other classes and we can do it on our own. Truth be told, they don't NEED us either. Granted, they'll use more HP pots and scrolls, but still they can do it on their own just as much as we can. And personally, you chose your roll as a Cleric. You know what that entitles. If you don't like it, don't be it. Simple as that. By whinning and complaining, you are acting no different than the people that beg.

[nightbear]

Yeah. We should. I stopped playing a while ago. Started getting sick of all that. Although...it's not more different in other games. Even in Tales of pirates. Heal. Heal. Heal. Never thanks. -___-;;

[Ragein]

Agree with nightbear we an't given the thanks for healing or buffing or even resing people its always "res now!" crude...I mean com on please would be nice you little ingrades!

we should rebail! make those who tick us off (archers and fighters) bhow before us! and let the mages join us (i like not sure why a clier-mage empire it be nice :D). We shall manaburn res and kill them off again!

Vivia Revalution!!

[azure-balmung]

alright i officially hate 80% of clerics.
yeah i have a fighter dosent mean i expect someone to say thanks when i help them when there outnumbered.
i also have a cleric i dont expect people to say thanks for healin them.
so just shut up its whats expected of your class so change or just tell them no dont be rude and say "say the magic word" how messed up is that when your diein an they tell you that? not very nice is it?

[sdtgr1382]

Clerics are made to heal, am I wrong? I have a lvl33 Cleric and i heal as i pass almost everyone. It's not like u lose anything for it. Sure u dont gain, but sometimes u get a new friend or a pty when u need it. Everyone that complains about people askin for stuff should either pick a new class or just find another game. But i guess thats just my opinion:rolleyes:

[Leon40]

If you wanna complain about being cleric then dont pick them thats the bottom line,as for the "Revolt" its not like anything is going to come from it.

[XelveX]

oh wow... 8 pages O_O, just checkin up on ya'll but this thread is starting too much rants. If this thread becomes too violent i'm not responsible for any bans

[SpiritS]

zzzz Can u all let it die?Just dun reply anymore....

[XelveX]

I think I will agree with spirit...

I'll request the GM to close this thread

[sprague]

i think we should either revolt, or start charging for revs. i mean, come on ppl. respect the clerics for once. they are the ones who give u an extra heart in your KQ. they're the ones who keep your hp bars full. and yet when you die, you blame them for simply not healing. you yell at them, you mock them, you call them idiots.. blegh. a simple ty after the KQ is fine. it doesnt even have to be after each fight/heal. i'm not just saying to some ppl i'm saying this to A LOT OF <<****>>TANKERS WHO NEVER APPRECIATED A SIMPLE HEAL

and clerics, we should start charging them for revs rather than revving for free. maybe they would look after their own hp much more often. and maybe buy buffs instead of FORCING clerics to buff them. like other mmo's, lets start charging for revs. i already am. 250c per rev, dont wanna pay, then i'll watch u warp to roumen or elderine.

[Firemind]

Should Mage's revolt? Whithout us KQ's would last twice, we keep burning through our SP so the party gets more exp and drop and no one thx us.

Should Fighter's revolt? Whithout us no one could kill a chief mob until they give 1 exp we keep runing through HP stones because even all the cleric healing is not enough to keep us alive. I run though SP too because we need to keep using keep and mock all the time plus atack skill.


COME ON LET'S REVOLT WE CAN MAKE FIESTA A SINGLE PLAYER GAME xD

[Onikasu]

i think we should either revolt, or start charging for revs. i mean, come on ppl. respect the clerics for once. they are the ones who give u an extra heart in your KQ. they're the ones who keep your hp bars full. and yet when you die, you blame them for simply not healing. you yell at them, you mock them, you call them idiots.. blegh. a simple ty after the KQ is fine. it doesnt even have to be after each fight/heal. i'm not just saying to some ppl i'm saying this to A LOT OF <<****>> TANKERS WHO NEVER APPRECIATED A SIMPLE HEAL

and clerics, we should start charging them for revs rather than revving for free. maybe they would look after their own hp much more often. and maybe buy buffs instead of FORCING clerics to buff them. like other mmo's, lets start charging for revs. i already am. 250c per rev, dont wanna pay, then i'll watch u warp to roumen or elderine.
Way to go there sparky, ........ make the cleric even more hated and useless.

Why revolt? Its not like i have had people saying "heal me now you nab POS"
* and if you have had that then I'm sorry. *

Honestly though, I have a warrior, and in KQ 50% of the time your focus is not on your HP its on your cool-down for Mob control buttons and stuns, so that way you dont have to watch as your party's HP drops to 0.
Not to mention even if they did buy buffs, they would also want your on top of that too, so nothing is going to change there, and you would get blamed for wasting their 1 Silver worth of buffs that got shot down the drain because you + healing = fail.

I would rather heal someone or rez them without getting a thankyou, and have them do some good than to be a snob about it, and get hollared at even more, and make the KQ or party fail, and making other good hardworking clerics have a bad name. I dont get why you other clerics hate being what you were meant to be. >_>

If you dont like it, GTFO and go play a different class. Honestly, I gaurantee you half of this community can live fine and well without us, no doubt. All that would happen is clerics getting an even worse name than they have now, and no-body wanting to party with you in high levels because now you gonna charge them for a rez.

Honeslty, I would just buy more stones/Pots and pay a bit more attention, than to have to pay one of you snobs for a rez, it would also be a hell of a lot cheaper too. And on top of that, when will they pay you? I wouldnt pay you, even if you did rez me, I'd tell you to go take a hike and STFU! Once you rez them, you cannot gaurantee they will pay you. And I gauratee you over 70% of the time they will do just that. Congrats, you now have a useless idea blown to bits.

So if you do revolt Congradulations, on making the rest of us actually good clerics look like complete imbusiles for being in the same class group as you.

[SpiritS]

Ok for the god sake,if you want to revolt,rebel or whatever just do it no need to post it!
If you post it then at least put your In Game Name,Server also.Dont just hide inside and say freely at forum because no one will reconnise you.Let people know you,you dare to say then you must a least do something,let people know you and you are the one who try to revolt for cleric sake.

If you can solo for the hold life then do it and I no saying anything.But when you in party,focus and do your job as healer well...because got this,cleric became a bad class.I even stated at before if you guy really started a revolt then pls pm me in game(My name is in my sig)I will gladly sitting beside seeing you all revolt.


If you cant accept helping people for free then be other class let those willing to help help you.I would rather run from far place then paying you 250c for revive.By the way,even if you charging them I dont think they will change and for your information,there is many other cleric in fiesta,so even you charging them they can wait till the next cleric come and revive them.So by that mean if you cant get full support/co-operate from all the cleric then your hold revolt wont work or success.

Finally,let this thread die,If you want to revolt,just put your in game name and post it and other see you are revolting.Dont try to make this class look worst because of your reaction/whining.

[sprague]

Way to go there sparky, ........ make the cleric even more hated and useless.

Why revolt? Its not like i have had people saying "heal me now you nab POS"
* and if you have had that then I'm sorry. *

Honestly though, I have a warrior, and in KQ 50% of the time your focus is not on your HP its on your cool-down for Mob control buttons and stuns, so that way you dont have to watch as your party's HP drops to 0.
Not to mention even if they did buy buffs, they would also want your on top of that too, so nothing is going to change there, and you would get blamed for wasting their 1 Silver worth of buffs that got shot down the drain because you + healing = fail.

I would rather heal someone or rez them without getting a thankyou, and have them do some good than to be a snob about it, and get hollared at even more, and make the KQ or party fail, and making other good hardworking clerics have a bad name. I dont get why you other clerics hate being what you were meant to be. >_>

If you dont like it, <**> and go play a different class. Honestly, I gaurantee you half of this community can live fine and well without us, no doubt. All that would happen is clerics getting an even worse name than they have now, and no-body wanting to party with you in high levels because now you gonna charge them for a rez.

Honeslty, I would just buy more stones/Pots and pay a bit more attention, than to have to pay one of you snobs for a rez, it would also be a hell of a lot cheaper too. And on top of that, when will they pay you? I wouldnt pay you, even if you did rez me, I'd tell you to go take a hike and STFU! Once you rez them, you cannot gaurantee they will pay you. And I gauratee you over 70% of the time they will do just that. Congrats, you now have a useless idea blown to bits.

So if you do revolt Congradulations, on making the rest of us actually good clerics look like complete imbusiles for being in the same class group as you.

look here. we're just not satisfied with the way ppl treat us. some of u tankers expect us to heal like hell and u died than u blame the clerics
thts the main reason we're doin this
and yes, they do say 'HEAL ME YOU <***>' and not just a few, a lot
and if they die, they woould shout out 'REZZZ !!!!~~~' or worst still 'U NOOB WHY DIDNT U HEAL ME'. as a matter effect i was. spamming heal like the world is going to end.
if they were to ask nicely and say 'rez me please' or ' please heal me' then i would love to do so.
but its not that way.
a lot of u ppl are being too mean to clerics
and for that i propose a revolt until they really appreciate us clerics.

[Jhanniss]

look here. we're just not satisfied with the way ppl treat us. some of u tankers expect us to heal like hell and u died than u blame the clerics
thts the main reason we're doin this
and yes, they do say 'HEAL ME YOU <**>' and not just a few, a lot
and if they die, they woould shout out 'REZZZ !!!!~~~' or worst still 'U NOOB WHY DIDNT U HEAL ME'. as a matter effect i was. spamming heal like the world is going to end.
if they were to ask nicely and say 'rez me please' or ' please heal me' then i would love to do so.
but its not that way.
a lot of u ppl are being too mean to clerics
and for that i propose a revolt until they really appreciate us clerics.


As a fellow cleric who has been around here a while, I have been reading and observing many things discussed here that I can say I too have gone through.

I would like to offer some alternative views to things. Rather than revolt, I would like to ask this of the clerics: Lead by example.

Everyone gets disrespected at some point in their life. It's how you learn and apply from these situations that can make or break future outcomes of such.

When you're young in the game you will find those who are brash, abrassive, and rude. You will be unappreciated and you will be talked down to as if you are a peon. I can tell you that these people do not last very long. They do exist at the higher levels but they end up facing kharma.

People demand things of me all the time. And if I don't give it to them they will call me all sorts of things and threaten to ruin my good name. I really don't care. My actions will speak louder than their words in the end. I don't babysit children, I have better things to do.

Now, I have three choices:

1) I can give an eye for an eye and start a swearing match to the same level as theirs.

2) I can ignore them and turn my back.

3) I can talk to them in a manner that they will hopefully understand so that they think twice before addressing me, or others, in that tone in the future.

I usually go with #3. The really bad ones end up with #2.

I'll admit like anyone that I have my moments and I do get into #1 on occasion.

But ultimately, don't revolt. Don't charge. Don't do things that will do clerics further harm than good. If you really wish to be appreciated for your services and what you give/do to people then walk with pride in what you are. Show them through actions what you can do. Communicate with them about the issue and ask them to think of your feelings.

If they choose to berate you further then you have just shown everyone what an *** this other person is and most of the time the others will jump them as well.

All I ask of those who come to me for buffs or ask for a revive is that they are nice and don't sound demanding. Demanding is a turn off for this girl. I only like agression in other things that I cannot mention due to it not being the appropriate place to be talking about it. ^.~

We aren't all holy (me least of any) but it doesn't mean we can't try to show them through their eyes, what negative things as has been mentioned through this thread, effects us.

Some will call you evil, others will call you the best cleric ever. All that matters is that you leave an impact with those around you. The good will eventually outweigh the bad.

[Raptorg]

do you appreciate the tanks keeping the mobs alive?
do you appreciate the mages, dps fighters and archers damaging the monsters so you can achieve that bosskill?


so far.. i've never had any appreciation for my damage..

[AkiraUchiha]

We Clerics should revolt its true were always asked to heal and rez but barley anyone says please I do when I die but does someone from my class ever help me no even if I'm polite they only way another cleric will rez me is if my party member goes to a cleric and askes them no cool on my half cuz I'm a cleric and no cleric will help me when I die from being attacked by a mob but thats not my point we clerics should revolt because warriors archers and some mages never say please when they want our help its always "heal me" or "can I get a rez" never have I seen anyone in FOM or SOG say "Please can I get a rez" I always say "Please rez" please is the first thing I say its just not right peoplle expect us to heal and rez them but we rarely ever get a please or a thank you its not right so let the clerics revolt

[SpiritS]

1 thing i can say,if the player is in your party no matter how rude he is,you should heal and revive him/her,it is our cleric to keep ppl in our party survive even need to burn all our sp.If you fail to do that then dont be a cleric be other class else.If the person not in your party then it is your choice to revive or heal the person,no one forcing you to heal/revive them.
For ur information,less high lv cleric will go to SOG or FOM even if they go they stay with eld gate side to farm or go in LS,so you will have less chance encounter ppl who know revive.
Lastly,like I say in top,if you revolt put ur IGN(in game name) let people know you.Dont say revolt freely because people didnt know you in game.

[yukijin]

i cant believe such a stupid idea got so many posts. die thread, die already.

[luketwo2]

yea we could win without healing there scrweed plus our buffs we can easliy win this

[kraehe]

Wow people are complaining about a lot of stuff.
Just ignore those who aren't polite. It's not like you have to heal every person that comes in your way. No one can make you do that if you don't want to.

[Alektos]

XelveX....your last post blinded me....

< Agrees with all GH and Cloud9 members.... -Wanders off.-

[GymUndies]

Heh,

Pretty sure there are players out there who havn't taken a glimpse outside their room.
Ease up turbos, and take a chill pill.

Revolting won't do anything. I rather waste very little seconds to heal/rez/buff players than wasting the amount of days it would take for this revolt to be a success (Which will be never, so I suggest you just move on with your pixelated life).

[SpiritS]

Ok I here annouce my post is the last post of this stupid thread and IF you want to revolt then put your IGN(in game name) and tell them you want to revolt,if you cant do that then dont reply on this thread.~Walk away~

[dragonslayer42]

A Revolt? Why that? Cleircs are made (NOTICE: The word MADE) to heal other players, even if they dont say please, or ask. Some times we just do it totally random, other times we'll do it if asked. But it would be nice if some one asked nicely instead of shouting at you. Now if some one shouted, or revolted against me, I would simply ignore them and let them die in shame. But other wise, if they just say " Could you rez? " Just do it and say " Your welcome " They'll say " Thank You " Some times. And any ways, im MADE for healing :P