Teva Weapon Skins (Yay!) Still no Shield Skins (Boo!)

[CrystalEyes]

The new teva skins look really pretty! And I'm glad they're being implimented soon,


However, I was just wondering if anyone could tell me if/when the Shield Skins will be added/released? (And hoping people will post here in support of them ;D)

It seems shields are often forgot by OS (It took them a few weeks after nerfing the Hellgaits to realize they had to nerf the hellgait shield too) and I know for clerics, they're shield is much more important than their mace or hammer since they generally are not an offensive class as much as a support class. Aka Defense > Damage.
And I'm sure there's plenty of tanks out there who'd want one as well.

I know they do exist in the other versions of Fiesta, a quick search of the threads about possible upcoming material can easily find a screenshot of the shield skins, so I was just wondering if they'll be released soon (or ever ;_; ) in our version.

And that I can guarantee at least one person who'd consider buying one. <.<


(And for all your clerics and shield users out there, post your support! =D)

[nishant-rocks]

there is a shield... the thing all they way at the end

[Fre_ak]

lol i rechecked the link and they removed the pics of the shield XD

[CrystalEyes]

there is a shield... the thing all they way at the end

lol i rechecked the link and they removed the pics of the shield XD

see?!?! Q.Q

I want a shield skin ;-;

[e966890]

Shield skin would be awesome. I know my cleric would enjoy it

[BloodMage78]

I thought they were releasing them o.o

[amshinigami]

??? teva skin? can u give a link to this? and when will it be implement?

sry, i dont log much, so theres new updates everytime i log..

last time helga was close, then is open, but seems quite, idk why o,o

[CrystalEyes]

I thought they were releasing them o.o

nope ;-;

hence my multiple ;-; ;_; ='( Q.Q faces ._.

[Blaxcalibur]

yup...we (defense based chars) usually get the shaft..unless your willing to spend 150$ to +9 your armor ofc :D

[BloodMage78]

nope ;-;

hence my multiple ;-; ;_; ='( Q.Q faces ._.

werent they there the other day xD

they were there along with some little pet thing.
I remember thinking "wt* is that x.x"

[CrystalEyes]

yup...we (defense based chars) usually get the shaft..unless your willing to spend 150$ to +9 your armor ofc :D
mhmmmm ;-;
werent they there the other day xD

They probably were added by accident and then taken out ;-;

I'm assuming they'd have to function on a different system than weapon skins (like instead of each attack that's made it deteriorates, to each hit that's taken)
which might be why they're delayed


Or it might be cause OS hates clerics and tanks ;-;

[King_Obito]

werent they there the other day xD

they were there along with some little pet thing.
I remember thinking "wt* is that x.x"

Yeah, I remembered that too, so I decided to look at the page again. As Freak said, they really did remove them from the page. :/

[BloodMage78]

Hmm that should be illegal xD
Seems like some form of stealing

[CrystalEyes]

Hmm that should be illegal xD
Seems like some form of stealing

*cough*
More like false advertising
*cough*

I meannnnnnn I <3 OutSpark?

[BloodMage78]

*cough*
More like false advertising
*cough*

I meannnnnnn I <3 OutSpark?

LOL
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING OF :D

I <3 Outspark too but why do they put things there then take them away. seems wrong to me.

[CrystalEyes]

LOL
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING OF :D

I <3 Outspark too but why do they put things there then take them away. seems wrong to me.

again

multiple multiple sad crying faces

Q.Q
;_;
='(
;-;
:'[
;.;

[BloodMage78]

I don't even have a char requiring a shield xD
Well i kinda do but i dont play my cleric that much x.x

I just was curious lol
And supporting your cause :D

[joecracker]

just so you know, the cleric teva shield was for m def, elf broke his when he tried to + it without perfects lol :)

[King_Obito]

just so you know, the cleric teva shield was for m def, elf broke his when he tried to + it without perfects lol :)
Haha, I remember that. All I could think of was.."WHY DID YOU ENHANCE THAT WITHOUT PERFECTS."

[lacerly]

I would be all over a shield skin.
I look at the weapon skins, and although usefull and (in some cases) pretty... useless for myself as an all support build cleric.
A shield though... omnomnom.

[ahtai]

Well consider if there is sheld I will very very tempted to try to get one on 4 account. I don't know whether it is good or bad for me. D:

[WolfAngel9414]

I would enjoy a shield skin on my shield-using chars..
But my mage really wouldn't enjoy it.

More def/Mdef...? + a skin for their wep...? Some ppl are way too hard to kill as it is...

[CrystalEyes]

I would enjoy a shield skin on my shield-using chars..
But my mage really wouldn't enjoy it.

More def/Mdef...? + a skin for their wep...? Some ppl are way too hard to kill as it is...

I actually kind of assumed it would only add def, not mdef (like when you +9 something) however I don't really know how much it would add o.o

Anyways, to counter your statement, yeah some people are way to hard to kill as it is, but many more have way to much damage as it is, even without weapon skins.
And are just insane with the weapon skin.

Shield skins would just be a huge help for those of us we tend to take damage but not deal it (clerics/tanks)
and obviously your mage wouldn't be able to use a shield skin >.>

[King_Obito]

I've played the game 13 times and still haven't gotten any Teva skins. ;/

edit; oh wow I'm dumb. It says starting thursday..

/owned

[WolfAngel9414]

It's a fighter/cleric ONLY advantage though. Archers/mages don't get anything, they just waste more time trying to kill you. I realize clerics don't have the most amazing damage ever, but I've still been killed by them, and they're so hard to kill it's not funny. Adding more def (possibly Mdef) would make fighters with extenders almost an impossibility, and clerics just completely pointless. I can barely CC fear -> stifle an 8x cleric to death...with skins? I may as well just let them kill me. My archer doesn't have fantabulous dmg even though shes spr/str, and she doesn't use Mdef, so she would be rendered more useless than my mage...
Dunno its up to OS, extenders and charms have already messed this game up enough as it is.

[Adrichiang]

I've played the game 13 times and still haven't gotten any Teva skins. ;/

Err kelly wait till Thursday, that's when they release the Teva skins into James Forge. Another way to check if a certain item is available in James Forge Or Remi's Rare finds is to keep hitting the refresh button on the site page, the 4 available items used as examples what you might get would keep changing ^^.

[King_Obito]

Err kelly wait till Thursday, that's when they release the Teva skins into James Forge. Another way to check if a certain item is available in James Forge Or Remi's Rare finds is to keep hitting the refresh button on the site page, the 4 available items used as examples what you might get would keep changing ^^.

Yeah T__T.. I just noticed that. I was even refreshing the page before I started to see if they were added. Then after awhile I looked on the launcher page and read the updates. *feels incredibly stupid*

[vandaluske]

Yeah T__T.. I just noticed that. I was even refreshing the page before I started to see if they were added. Then after awhile I looked on the launcher page and read the updates. *feels incredibly stupid*

LOL!
haha sorry but I couldn't resist.


Anyways I don't think there is such thing as a shield skin.
There called weapons skins hence used to kill things.

The pictures that some GM put up I think were the actuall Teva Weapons that's why there were shields there.

[CrystalEyes]

It's a fighter/cleric ONLY advantage though. Archers/mages don't get anything, they just waste more time trying to kill you. I realize clerics don't have the most amazing damage ever, but I've still been killed by them, and they're so hard to kill it's not funny. Adding more def (possibly Mdef) would make fighters with extenders almost an impossibility, and clerics just completely pointless. I can barely CC fear -> stifle an 8x cleric to death...with skins? I may as well just let them kill me. My archer doesn't have fantabulous dmg even though shes spr/str, and she doesn't use Mdef, so she would be rendered more useless than my mage...
Dunno its up to OS, extenders and charms have already messed this game up enough as it is.

Actually, I think it makes it way more fair.

Fighters, Archers, and Mages all get to super increase their damage with weapon skins, I don't see why a cleric shouldn't be allowed to increase their defense with a shield skin.

And you're right, archers and mages don't get anything, but um duh they don't have shields. That's like complaining that archers and mages should have a shield in-game to match clerics/1h fighters who use them.
There's a reason they don't have them, they're DD's not support/tank classes.

I want to be able to enhance my support/tanking abilities with a shield skin just like a DD is able to enhance they're damage dealing abilities with a weapon skin.
Right now, weapon skins are a DD ONLY advantage, so yeah, i wouldn't mind a fighter(tank)/cleric ONLY advantage as well.
Seems fair.



Besides, your main point was about PvP.
Fiesta's not really a PvP geared game. I mean yeah it's there, but you don't gain anything useful from PvPing (some kill points and a small chance of exp from the PvP KQ, if you even get in).
What about for grinding? The place where clerics and tanks tend to shine? (Because lets face it, clerics and tanks tend to fail at PvP)

If you can up your damage to help you grind, why shouldn't I be allowed to up my defense to help me support? 'Cause that's what I do.


(Side note, I always get creamed in the PvP kq, and I'm an 86 cleric, with okay gears (non +9 though), who knows how to heal, but I still usually get 1 or 2 hit by DD's whenever I'm pvping, especially those with a weapon skin on. A shield skin just makes it a counter for those using a weapon skin.)

[BloodMage78]

Actually, I think it makes it way more fair.

Fighters, Archers, and Mages all get to super increase their damage with weapon skins, I don't see why a cleric shouldn't be allowed to increase their defense with a shield skin.

And you're right, archers and mages don't get anything, but um duh they don't have shields. That's like complaining that archers and mages should have a shield in-game to match clerics/1h fighters who use them.
There's a reason they don't have them, they're DD's not support/tank classes.

I want to be able to enhance my support/tanking abilities with a shield skin just like a DD is able to enhance they're damage dealing abilities with a weapon skin.
Right now, weapon skins are a DD ONLY advantage, so yeah, i wouldn't mind a fighter(tank)/cleric ONLY advantage as well.
Seems fair.



Besides, your main point was about PvP.
Fiesta's not really a PvP geared game. I mean yeah it's there, but you don't gain anything useful from PvPing (some kill points and a small chance of exp from the PvP KQ, if you even get in).
What about for grinding? The place where clerics and tanks tend to shine? (Because lets face it, clerics and tanks tend to fail at PvP)

If you can up your damage to help you grind, why shouldn't I be allowed to up my defense to help me support? 'Cause that's what I do.


(Side note, I always get creamed in the PvP kq, and I'm an 86 cleric, with okay gears (non +9 though), who knows how to heal, but I still usually get 1 or 2 hit by DD's whenever I'm pvping, especially those with a weapon skin on. A shield skin just makes it a counter for those using a weapon skin.)

Ditto
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[samuraimandc]

maybe shield skins wouldn't do anything for def. maybe it would be block rate.

[TheCompanions]

maybe shield skins wouldn't do anything for def. maybe it would be block rate.

Sounds WAY more fair than adding Def./m.def.

[drunkenmasta]

Hmm well if you really think about it, it would be fair to add a shield skin that increases at least mdef and block rate. There currently a gazillion ways to increase your damage including weapon skins, damage suits and other CS apparel. It wouldn't be so bad for them to give more def boosting items for a change.

[bigj3234]

maybe shield skins wouldn't do anything for def. maybe it would be block rate.

Sounds WAY more fair than adding Def./m.def.

How is it fair to add dmg/m.dmg, crit AND aim with a weapon skin, but only fair to add a shield skin if it only adds block rate???

To MAKE it fair, they should add the shield skin that gives def/m.def and block rate.

[TheCompanions]

How is it fair to add dmg/m.dmg, crit AND aim with a weapon skin, but only fair to add a shield skin if it only adds block rate???

To MAKE it fair, they should add the shield skin that gives def/m.def and block rate.

If they add defense, sure mages dont mind that, but archers already sux at damage and giving more def to a fighter/cleric is impossible to get down.
Balancing is already the worst in Fiesta, but giving only 2 classes an adventage is pretty unfair.

Its just unfair for the non-shild users. But lets wait and see what the skin will add.

[bigj3234]

If they add defense, sure mages dont mind that, but archers already sux at damage and giving more def to a fighter/cleric is impossible to get down.
Balancing is already the worst in Fiesta, but giving only 2 classes an adventage is pretty unfair.

Its just unfair for the non-shild users. But lets wait and see what the skin will add.

Well, most of the items in the Cash Shop cause unfair advantages. I guess I always thought that was the point.

But, the weapon skin does not give much advantage to a cleric. 10% of not much is still not much. And the same for the 1h skin. I suppose it is useful for an archer in PvP, but what about PvE? I thought the Archer's PvE strength was DoT not impact damage?

[kouturoq]

As a mage I'm not down with the shield skins adding mdef.

It's bad enough that fighters and clerics around my level have the same if not more mdef than me, and I'm in 95 blues with almost max spr, with 95 jewelry that has spr.

Ok, so fighters have more damage than me, more hp than me, more def than me, and now more mdef than me? Same with clerics, minus the "more damage" part.
Big f to the you~

I'd rather not have shield skins, thanks~

[WolfAngel9414]

How about shield skins that work in non-pvp areas only?

Oh wait

That would lose OS some money...

[CrystalEyes]

maybe shield skins wouldn't do anything for def. maybe it would be block rate.
Sounds WAY more fair than adding Def./m.def.
how is it fair when a weapon skin adds 10% to damage, mdamage, aim AND crit rate?!
It should be a shield skin adds def, mdef, and crit. That's fair and equal.
Hmm well if you really think about it, it would be fair to add a shield skin that increases at least mdef and block rate. There currently a gazillion ways to increase your damage including weapon skins, damage suits and other CS apparel. It wouldn't be so bad for them to give more def boosting items for a change.
How is it fair to add dmg/m.dmg, crit AND aim with a weapon skin, but only fair to add a shield skin if it only adds block rate???

To MAKE it fair, they should add the shield skin that gives def/m.def and block rate.
exactly ~_~
If they add defense, sure mages dont mind that, but archers already sux at damage and giving more def to a fighter/cleric is impossible to get down.
Balancing is already the worst in Fiesta, but giving only 2 classes an adventage is pretty unfair.

Its just unfair for the non-shild users. But lets wait and see what the skin will add.

Well, most of the items in the Cash Shop cause unfair advantages. I guess I always thought that was the point.

But, the weapon skin does not give much advantage to a cleric. 10% of not much is still not much. And the same for the 1h skin. I suppose it is useful for an archer in PvP, but what about PvE? I thought the Archer's PvE strength was DoT not impact damage?

As a mage I'm not down with the shield skins adding mdef.

It's bad enough that fighters and clerics around my level have the same if not more mdef than me, and I'm in 95 blues with almost max spr, with 95 jewelry that has spr.

Ok, so fighters have more damage than me, more hp than me, more def than me, and now more mdef than me? Same with clerics, minus the "more damage" part.
Big f to the you~

I'd rather not have shield skins, thanks~

Okay, to all of you who are against adding the shield skins, let me remind you of one thing,
since most of you seem to be complaining about your mages and archers not being able to do enough damage against people with high def,
YOU DON'T WEAR A SHEILD. -.-
You're Damage Dealers. If you don't do enough damage, that's WHY you buy a weapon skin in the first place, so you do more.
And trust me, you do plenty.
And then us clerics get our buts kicked because weapons skins are absolutely useless for us, and we have no way to increase our def as a counter.
Yeah shield skins would be a cleric/tank only advantage, but weapon skins are a mage/archer/DD fighter only advantage. THIS is how you would balance it.

It's like you're complaining mages and archers should get a shield!? Yeah its a cleric (and tank) only advantage, but its not like a cleric and tank get both advantages. Anyone who uses a shield has fail damage to begin with, their focus is their def, which is why we'd want to increase it. Even if someone got a weapon skin and a shield skin, 10% of nothing is still nothing, their damage wouldn't increase, however their defense would be able to so that they can equal the playing field against people who already had crazy damage and just added more to it.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone with a 1h sword skin in game. And I can guarantee there's very few people who have one.

It's like a table balance (you know the legal symbol thing you always see?)
You add extra damage to one side, you have to add extra defense to the other to make it fair.
Or else you get further imbalance.




And I'm going to point this out in big bold letters because people don't seem to realize,
FIESTA ISN'T A PVP GAME

It's not about whether or not you can kill me or a tank. I grind to level, as does EVERYONE else because pvp, other than potentially being a fun change of pace, gets you NO WHERE because this is NOT a PVP game. There is no reward, there is no advantage for killing other people.

So please, do yourself a favor, and stop complaining about whether or not you'll be able to kill someone with a shield skin.
1. Since the game isn't about killing other people, your point is moot.
2. Tanks and Clerics are a support class, not a DD class. You want more damage which you get with weapon skins, we want more def like we would get with shield skins. That's balance.
3. If you can't kill us, go out and buy a weapon skin to make it equal like it would be if we both didn't have a skin.
4. If you still can't, you either a.) have fail in game gears, or b.) fail at playing your class.



And remember,
Now I realize there's a huge class imbalance, and that Fighters can do way more damage than they should be, however I don't directly agree that their damage should be less than that of a mage or an archer. More so, they should probably be about the same.
Fighters are a melee class, they really can't aoe (continuously) like mages and archers, all their attacks (for the most part) are up close to the monster, so they're taking hits while giving them.
Archers and Mages are a ranged class, they can attack from far away without getting attacked back. This is their advantage over fighters.
Both classes can kite to kill if they so desire. The only thing they would need is extra damage.

Clerics on the other hand, are a support class. They don't attack, but they do take hits. And tanks, while they do attack, their intention is to hold aggro, not deal damage. These are their responsibilities in a party.
(Do I have to point out that the name of the game is Fiesta, which means party?)
You have a weapon skin to increase your ability to do your part in a party, which is to deal damage.
We want a shield skin to increase our defense to do our jobs in a party, which is tanking and supporting.



Case closed.
Go whine about your inability to PvP in the PvP forum section please.

[GM_Pilkysico]

Hi guys,

In the past I've tried to get all the shield skins into the game. Some were scheduled but didn't get made.

Here's some stats I picked:
+ Def
- Crit (from attacker)
+ Block

Ultimately my variations did not get approved and future shield skins will be vanity only and have no functionality. I am unsure if the Teva shields will be made or not (it's been purposed).

Skin rotation is every 2 months.

[CrystalEyes]

Hi guys,

In the past I've tried to get all the shield skins into the game. Some were scheduled but didn't get made.

Here's some stats I picked:
+ Def
- Crit (from attacker)
+ Block

Ultimately my variations did not get approved and future shield skins will be vanity only and have no functionality. I am unsure if the Teva shields will be made or not (it's been purposed).

Skin rotation is every 2 months.

Thanks for the answer Silky <3
Its always appreciated that you're reading and responding to threads out there o.o


Well, despite my opinion that I think they should be implemented (with def/mdef bonuses and what not) which is what this thread seemed to evolve into, I really just wanted an official answer to if they were being added or not, so thanks =)

(Even if i'm still sad they're not :()

Anyways, I'd probably still buy one for vanity, cause I like having things match ;D but I'd hope it wouldn't deteriorate like weapon skins since they'd have no function.
Or maybe they can release non-perm versions with like smaller bonuses? o.o
Just thinking out loud...


Anyways, thanks again for the official answer. <3
(*sad face*)


Oh, I guess this thread has served its purpose, if no one else feels like debating with me I guess it can be closed ^^.

[GM_Nekopon]

Thank you. :]