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vortez
08-07-2009, 01:48 PM
i want to b a fighter that can tank,and solo really good wat would the build b?!

ewf7trew87r8ee
08-07-2009, 08:14 PM
the build hahahahahahahahaha u wanna be a good tank heheh u may think it all about STR but its really all about END im pure END im lvl57 my hp is 4103 with no scroll/buff/charms i fought a lvl 67 cleric and i won he only dealed 80-120 points of dam. and i fought a fighter lvl65 he only dealed 100-129 dam. and i killed em all everythings about END u dont need STR u got skills already y u need STR to bad my SPR is only 1108

zues8844
08-07-2009, 08:49 PM
I doubt it........I'm lvl 64 with only 3,2k, and thats with max END gears and a 55 blue top.........your a liar. 4,1k is not achievable at 57 without a buff, scroll, or extender.

Antony_Aravind
08-10-2009, 03:22 AM
Omg seriously both of u, a guy just asked a build advise and u ppl boast of ur hp here too?

U may go 50 end 25 spr and rest dex that will be a good build for a tank or
50 dex 25 spr and rest end both are good

zues8844
08-10-2009, 07:23 AM
I say no dex on a tank build........end gives you the hp/def/block rate that will always be there, while dex is just a % chance of evasion.

Nothing like good, solid hp/def.

jadedeepfire
08-10-2009, 07:30 AM
Ennnnnnnnd.

Antony_Aravind
08-11-2009, 12:51 AM
I say no dex on a tank build........end gives you the hp/def/block rate that will always be there, while dex is just a % chance of evasion.

Nothing like good, solid hp/def.

ummmmm If u are just tanking the bosses for 24 x7 ya I will accept this but U have normal mobs in the game too so srry u need dex in a build

zues8844
08-11-2009, 06:30 AM
Get dex on your gear then.......

Blaxcalibur
08-11-2009, 07:56 AM
dex in build isnt a waste....in fact, dex build can be your worst nightmare in pvp...and in pve its even better. and like antony said, unless your tankin pre 80 (i say pre 80 becuz lvl80 and 90 bosses have fail aim compared to the rest) and lower bosses all day long..you dont need pure end, and never will. while dex is just a % its payoff is better than end, just like how crit payoff is better than raw dmg.

50dex is 10% eva + 100 eva and uhh...13% aim 130ish aim (i think). to me thats better than puttin those 50 point in end for 250hp, 25 dmg reduction, and like wat...2% block rate?

ive been pure end b4...end/dex > it....hybrids are no longer the "fail" builds anymore. i will never make another pure stat char as long as i play this game.

@ the OP
unless your rich in game or irl...you wont be able to tank AND solo good..there always has to be a downside (but thats why theres a nifty, high cost, cash shop to change that) ._.;

zues8844
08-11-2009, 09:01 AM
Actually, raw damage is good now, due to the fact you can make up for crit through SC......alot of crit through that, lol.

Dex is good on gears for me, but I personally won't be putting any in with my free stat points.

Antony_Aravind
08-13-2009, 03:28 AM
Actually, raw damage is good now, due to the fact you can make up for crit through SC......alot of crit through that, lol.

Dex is good on gears for me, but I personally won't be putting any in with my free stat points.

assume that u have 50 dex on ur build so like it will be 15% eva

say u have 600 as ur normal eva at lvl 90

ummm *doing the math*
it would add extra 90 :P

so it will be 690 ~700

now assume u have max dex gears of lvl 90 so ur eva is nearly 850~ 900 say u have 900

*again the math xD*

it will add extra 135

thats a t3 eva scroll

so added 900+ 135 = 1035

now lets use a t4 eva scroll I think it adds 160 1035+160 = 1.2k eva

OMG ALMOST NO MOBS WILL HIT U WITH SUCH HIGH EVA

y u need def and HP xD?

DEX in build is always FTW if u ask me

Blaxcalibur
08-13-2009, 08:25 AM
assume that u have 50 dex on ur build so like it will be 15% eva

say u have 600 as ur normal eva at lvl 90

ummm *doing the math*
it would add extra 90 :P

so it will be 690 ~700

now assume u have max dex gears of lvl 90 so ur eva is nearly 850~ 900 say u have 900

*again the math xD*

it will add extra 135

thats a t3 eva scroll

so added 900+ 135 = 1035

now lets use a t4 eva scroll I think it adds 160 1035+160 = 1.2k eva

OMG ALMOST NO MOBS WILL HIT U WITH SUCH HIGH EVA

y u need def and HP xD?

DEX in build is always FTW if u ask me

its like this

50 dex = 133 aim/100 eva and 13.3% aim/10% eva...so you get higher aim/eva and a bonus hit/eva rate or "chance"

high dex gear at lvl 90 + 50 dex in free stat will drop you at about 950 eva with axe and 1kish with 1h/shield IF all you gear has max or close to max dex + jewelry with dex. this is hell for those 6xx aim str/end geared warriors (its funny when you encounter them...cuz they fail so much at actually hittin u)

p.s. you added a t4 eva scroll on top of a t3 eva scroll xD

p.s.s. aim scrolls in pvp is lame :p

p.s.s.s.? you still need hp and def even if you have godly eva..just not as much as ppl who dont

kemo_sabe
08-13-2009, 10:50 AM
SO much talk Go pure Str with godly +9 end/dex armor like me and u can solo. Only down side is low HP but u can solo Bosses and big mobs with either Axe to kill faster or 1h and sheild to last a bit longer when ur Hp falls low and u need to last a second or so for u stone to cool. either way again like they said im lvl 76 pure str with 8end on my build and godly end/dex/spr +9 armor pushing 1.4kdef with axe and 1.7k with sheild +0. But if ur poor like i was when i was noobie. Go 2str 2end 1spr as u lvl from 1-105. I promise u wont be let down. and if that fails at lvl 30 u get 10 stat reset points. XD just remember Fighters are the meat sack and nothing else. if u want damage go Mage or Archer. if u want to be support go cleric. IF u want to be the center of attetion Go FIGHTER.

Blaxcalibur
08-14-2009, 12:53 AM
SO much talk Go pure Str with godly +9 end/dex armor like me and u can solo. Only down side is low HP but u can solo Bosses and big mobs with either Axe to kill faster or 1h and sheild to last a bit longer when ur Hp falls low and u need to last a second or so for u stone to cool. either way again like they said im lvl 76 pure str with 8end on my build and godly end/dex/spr +9 armor pushing 1.4kdef with axe and 1.7k with sheild +0. But if ur poor like i was when i was noobie. Go 2str 2end 1spr as u lvl from 1-105. I promise u wont be let down. and if that fails at lvl 30 u get 10 stat reset points. XD just remember Fighters are the meat sack and nothing else. if u want damage go Mage or Archer. if u want to be support go cleric. IF u want to be the center of attetion Go FIGHTER.

._. u tell him that fighters are meat sacks and to pick mage/archer for dmg...but go pure str for his build? /contradicted

kemo_sabe
08-14-2009, 10:18 AM
He said a good Tanker and Solo. So yes pure str to kill and +9 for def. If full end ur attack power is uber weak and pure str ur *as put by others* a glass cannon. Thats why i say +9 always. with end/dex. XD Soo Sounds Contradicting but not really. Mages purpose is nothing other then DD/AOE for clerics purpose is Support and fricken awsome buffs and heals. For Archer is to be annoying and try to steal aggor and kite. DX. and for Fighters Is to take abuse from the mean monsters and get revenge by killing them. FTW Fighter = Meat sack.


GO PRO. STR build and +9 everything end/dex

kemo_sabe
08-14-2009, 10:35 AM
AND to add to my note. Build only does half of anything. Your gear is what makes a fighter a fighter. go pure END with npc and ur damage is a fail. Same for pure Str with NPC and ur def is a fail. if u go Hybrid with NpC u should do just fine. But with green drops that come from everywhere makes you better or worse. Pure ENd with END gear is awsome but 2min per kill means lame lvling unless ur in a pt 24/7 and Pure Str is awsome just the raw power is an amazing Feat. But when u have to constantly use stones and every-now-n'-then run so ur stone can cool to heal ur self is annoying. SO Pro's and Con's. Gear is the make up of ur character. Your weps come in second to your armor. U can get by with lame armor. and a good axe/1h but when u get to the worst lvls of the game *I.E. 73-76 ur gonna wish u had the best armor so u can grind Cursed Knight Gold for 60k exp per kill and lvl fast. NPC wont cut it and u will fail just before entering BR.

EVERY Fighter here knows what they are doing so they understand. GO PRO.

Blaxcalibur
08-14-2009, 09:26 PM
He said a good Tanker and Solo. So yes pure str to kill and +9 for def. If full end ur attack power is uber weak and pure str ur *as put by others* a glass cannon. Thats why i say +9 always. with end/dex. XD Soo Sounds Contradicting but not really. Mages purpose is nothing other then DD/AOE for clerics purpose is Support and fricken awsome buffs and heals. For Archer is to be annoying and try to steal aggor and kite. DX. and for Fighters Is to take abuse from the mean monsters and get revenge by killing them. FTW Fighter = Meat sack.

GO PRO. STR build and +9 everything end/dex

i already said IF hes not rich in game or real life, he wont be good at BOTH. at a certain lvl bein pure str with end gear but no +9s wont be an option anymore unless your willing to scroll up all the time or party a cleric (but str build is solo build so that defeats the purpose right?)

the bold part is what i still dont get. meatsacks = good at taking hits and only good at takin hits aka end build. ive never seen a meatsack hit anybody back after bein punched. bottom line, str is not a tank build..it CAN tank but then the "if"s come in. IF they have high end gear and IF they have enuff +9s

and wat does go pro mean? is that a reference to go STR build? o-o....if so LAWL


AND to add to my note. Build only does half of anything. Your gear is what makes a fighter a fighter. go pure END with npc and ur damage is a fail. Same for pure Str with NPC and ur def is a fail. if u go Hybrid with NpC u should do just fine. But with green drops that come from everywhere makes you better or worse. Pure ENd with END gear is awsome but 2min per kill means lame lvling unless ur in a pt 24/7 and Pure Str is awsome just the raw power is an amazing Feat. But when u have to constantly use stones and every-now-n'-then run so ur stone can cool to heal ur self is annoying. SO Pro's and Con's. Gear is the make up of ur character. Your weps come in second to your armor. U can get by with lame armor. and a good axe/1h but when u get to the worst lvls of the game *I.E. 73-76 ur gonna wish u had the best armor so u can grind Cursed Knight Gold for 60k exp per kill and lvl fast. NPC wont cut it and u will fail just before entering BR.

EVERY Fighter here knows what they are doing so they understand. GO PRO.

ZZzzZzZ this is already known. thats where the "if you not rich" part kicks in. if you thnk 73-76 is the worst lvls...youll love 91+ :).

nobody said for a 7x to grind in a 9x zone, thats completely up to w/e's choice. you could just as easily spam kkp, grind in TR, and turn in your saved quest. golds arent exactly a fast kill either, even for 9x. so idk about that.

soloers want dmg, tankers wont def, but errybody wants both. you only get both if your rich in game or in real life....

Kanashimi_Doshaburi
08-14-2009, 10:05 PM
I reccommend an STR/DEX hybrid build like me =o
High damage, nice aim, with the bonus of mobs/other players missing you often.
And if you can manage it, go with end/dex armor, really useful stuff that is. =o

kemo_sabe
08-15-2009, 12:28 PM
Well yes I like being rich in game. Having 50g+ wit a main lvl 77 with +9armors end/dex and pre str build is sweet. and FTW Golds are sooo easy to kill.(1-2 at a time) Not to be rude but at lvl 90 u should be able to pwn 6-10 at a time. And kill them all in 30sec to 1min. If not u have a issue with ur build or gears. Granted not everyone is lucky to produce much gold. and KKP is 200k exp over 30-40min. so do the math.

KKP
45min
200k exp
+/- 20k exp for other kills in KQ

Cursed Knights Gold
Kill rate .30min
35-65k exp
45min
3,150,000 ~ 5,850,000exp

so in same amount of time.
all that is needed is aimT3/4 eva T3/4 vit T3/4 m.def T3/4 and a buff and u can grind there solo. so u tell me that kkp is faster. I say its a lie. More of a waste of time unless u need mats for scrolls or pots. or to do KKP quests. So get a CK-G lic and get a damage boost of 15% and i bet with in 9-12hrs of just grinding with no quests or kkp and you will go from lvl 73-77 in a flash. Cuz spamming KKP is lame and killing in TR takes bout the same time. but no Lic for TR. Only problem is the matter of RS. cost, cost, and the trips of back and forward to FM.

jadedeepfire
08-15-2009, 12:29 PM
Not too many people has +9 armors.

kemo_sabe
08-15-2009, 12:30 PM
Granted this is not spamming skills also to math. If u spam skill should be way faster.
Only problem is u run into lvl 90+ jerks who wont buff in FM and try to bring mobs close to u so that there AOE will kill u.

stefan-soan
08-15-2009, 07:25 PM
its like this

50 dex = 133 aim/100 eva and 13.3% aim/10% eva...so you get higher aim/eva and a bonus hit/eva rate or "chance"

high dex gear at lvl 90 + 50 dex in free stat will drop you at about 950 eva with axe and 1kish with 1h/shield IF all you gear has max or close to max dex + jewelry with dex. this is hell for those 6xx aim str/end geared warriors (its funny when you encounter them...cuz they fail so much at actually hittin u)

p.s. you added a t4 eva scroll on top of a t3 eva scroll xD

p.s.s. aim scrolls in pvp is lame :p

p.s.s.s.? you still need hp and def even if you have godly eva..just not as much as ppl who dont

heh, I'd go with what you're saying ;o
My Fighter is a Hoe atm to any Warriors that have little or no dex in their build/gear.