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Plushii
08-19-2009, 10:15 AM
Hiya, since there's a highest hp thread why not make a highest def thread x3
Post the highest def you can archieve archers =D
This is my highest when I'm solo.
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/Plushii/deff.jpg
Moxxie
08-20-2009, 06:31 AM
Hax
25Spr 50End rest Str right?
or are you Full END now?
Plushii
08-20-2009, 08:23 AM
I changed my mind on full end xD
I'm 25 spr 50 end 37 dex now =3
noth1n
08-20-2009, 09:28 AM
Grats.
Not sure how much it would be with 90% def, capped cleric, sc helm 3% - armor 7% and backpack 5%. You could possibly hit 9k or so.
BlackDragonEX
08-20-2009, 12:57 PM
Nice deff full +9 4x end armor and 96+9 helm .
I'll think about posting mine sometime wen I enhance my 96 it stands at 21xx atm natural solo.
No sc items which increase deff
Plushii
08-20-2009, 03:12 PM
I haven't found a good 96 hat yet x3
And 21xx is awesome without any sc boosts O= mine is 2555 with invisable suit and backpack, do Rangers get a def boost?
Grats.
Not sure how much it would be with 90% def, capped cleric, sc helm 3% - armor 7% and backpack 5%. You could possibly hit 9k or so.
thx x3
but 90% charm can't be done I think, I tried it once but got the same def as 70% charmed.
dadictator52
08-20-2009, 07:09 PM
o.e , my lvl 61 archer has 391 buffs, no party buffs, no nothin o.e
Dang realy gotta catch up on def
Moxxie
08-21-2009, 06:07 AM
o.e , my lvl 61 archer has 391 buffs, no party buffs, no nothin o.e
Dang realy gotta catch up on def
Uhh That's actually normal for a 61 archer lol
I have 500 def at lvl 75
I really have to catch up on dmg and def and money and levels and evasion
Plushii
08-21-2009, 07:18 AM
Here's my base without any sc boosts
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/Plushii/base.jpg
BlackDragonEX
08-21-2009, 09:32 AM
Nice deff and hp and yes rangers get a small deff boost.
You will hit 8k hp natural if u go ranger easy. I'll post mine tmz.
Btw that 50end is a waste :P I removed my 3x end and added to str it helps alot
silverwhitedragon
08-21-2009, 10:21 AM
Nice deff and hp and yes rangers get a small deff boost.
You will hit 8k hp natural if u go ranger easy. I'll post mine tmz.
Btw that 50end is a waste :P I removed my 3x end and added to str it helps alot
3x end maybe useless but not when u have 50 end...besides it depends on what u wanna do. I prefer to go end cuz eva is a % not a concrete # so u wont ALWAYS get missed especialy at higher lvls. I can always make up my dmg with DoTs but it all depends on what pace u wanna go at and how efficient u want to be. Archers are so fun to experiment with especillay when u go with the toboo builds like all end/some end or pure int ;)
anyways my dex is like 696 with all high dex gears but imma switch to end gears now...
with stacked charms and buffs while at 58 i had like 1299 def ^_-
Plushii
08-21-2009, 12:46 PM
Nice deff and hp and yes rangers get a small deff boost.
You will hit 8k hp natural if u go ranger easy. I'll post mine tmz.
Btw that 50end is a waste :P I removed my 3x end and added to str it helps alot
oh cool x3 yeah I go ranger definitly heheh
I like end in my build, actually I just removed all the str I had and replaced it for dex a few days ago x3
I'm happy with my build =D
Antony_Aravind
08-22-2009, 12:05 AM
- no offence - but really end is useless on archers with 50 end max ull het around idk 50 def max?
could achieved in lot of other possible ways
u could have used those stat pts on other things
Plushii
08-22-2009, 12:53 AM
might be useless to you. Not to me :)
BlackDragonEX
08-22-2009, 01:14 AM
^^ we get a very nice 700hp boost too.
Imo the str in my build owns the old end, But I've allways been one for 'no dex' i've just got small ammounts from armor , just need better pants with end/str/spr and a decent str/end hat unless I +9 my end/spr
Mainly DMG Deff MDeffi focus on:3
fireyair
08-22-2009, 06:09 PM
Dude... get in a 5 man party with a party buff. That should help you out a bit.
Peace:cool:
Moxxie
08-23-2009, 02:57 AM
Dud... get in a 5 man party with a party buff. That should help you out a bit.
Peace:cool:
Yeah lol
You can prolly hit 6k def? (:
Plushii
08-23-2009, 06:14 AM
Oki I try when I get the oppertunity x3
BlackDragonEX
08-23-2009, 09:48 AM
Ignore my DMG lol. Not got the HG Xbow atm its in Guild storage as a guilide had it while i was away, This is Natural with nothing but a buff :/
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/Untitled2-3.png
Plushii
08-23-2009, 10:38 AM
Very nice Ichigo! =D
sbr999
08-23-2009, 11:17 AM
Ignore my DMG lol. Not got the HG Xbow atm its in Guild storage as a guilide had it while i was away, This is Natural with nothing but a buff :/
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/Untitled2-3.png
@@ lol...nice HP
reapers_sword
08-23-2009, 12:09 PM
lol so much def ><
i only have 500 def with out any kind of buffs/scrolls
on my lvl 57 archer
exile303
08-24-2009, 04:08 AM
lol,, its kinda normal for some 95 +9's to have 1.8k-2k ^^ ,,
but still great =D
Moxxie
08-24-2009, 04:20 AM
5.2k def @.@
BlackDragonEX
08-24-2009, 03:27 PM
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/Untitled-26.png
mhm k thats natural without anything ^^
boomdude111
08-26-2009, 11:32 AM
here is my every day gear, no spr on hat or pants yet, working on mdef, and that is low dmg (:
http://i30.tinypic.com/2w1tutj.jpg
oh, and str/spr build ftw
http://i27.tinypic.com/5ma8gy.jpg
Hipposaur
08-26-2009, 11:41 AM
Good job Koiikoii!
(:
BlackDragonEX
08-26-2009, 11:45 AM
Highest natural i can reach with my stuff :3
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/Untitled-28.png
Kurayamiblack
08-27-2009, 03:58 AM
I never understood why people black out their build all the time. I can't understand the benefit of hiding it or any consequence for showing it so why go through the effort? What are they trying to hide? What's so special about your numbers? Do they total up to a number that exceeds what the total should be at that level?
*stares at you akwardly as if assuming you're guilty of cheating just to see how you react so that I can use that reaction as a basis for my next move in this analysis*
wait, that's not why I came here. I'm gonna post my stats now. I'm not even gonna try to win any award for Highest DEF b/c I'd never make it, but since I plan to go End/Dex after my SPR hits 25, I figured I'd post my stuff so far.
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/Kurayamiblack/screenshot072.jpg
marimoo
08-27-2009, 04:48 AM
Uhh That's actually normal for a 61 archer lol
I have 500 def at lvl 75
I really have to catch up on dmg and def and money and levels and evasion
o.o That's normal?
My lvl 67 archer has 600 def with str/spr build. o:
Moxxie
08-27-2009, 05:13 AM
o.o That's normal?
My lvl 67 archer has 600 def with str/spr build. o:
Your archer has higher def than my 75 LOL
boomdude111
08-27-2009, 07:20 AM
My build is always blacked out because many people want to know my build, it's not the standard 25spr rest str, so everyone wants to know how much i have, i just like to keep them guessing (:
Kanashimi_Doshaburi
08-27-2009, 07:21 AM
My 52 archer I think has 5xx def with no scrolls/sparkcash/buffs, I'll get a screen later today when i'm home =D
But I might have that def confused with what it is with a t2 def scroll o.e
High end gear and build is <3
fireyair
08-27-2009, 02:34 PM
My 52 archer I think has 5xx def with no scrolls/sparkcash/buffs, I'll get a screen later today when i'm home =D
But I might have that def confused with what it is with a t2 def scroll o.e
High end gear and build is <3
My level 51 archer has 569 defense (no scrolls, charms,pots, etc.) and he's a 50 DEX rest STR build. For the last time: END sucks in archer builds. It's all about the gear.
Peace:cool:
BlackDragonEX
08-27-2009, 04:08 PM
yea just have good gear and your cool (:
Kurayamiblack
08-27-2009, 06:14 PM
How do you non END builds get so much darn DEF? I know you say it's all gears but I run END gears WITH my End build and a few of you are still at 600def in your 6x levels. Do you have capped/nearly capped END on EVERYTHING or something? Because it's just not adding up to me.
BlackDragonEX
08-27-2009, 07:16 PM
Lvl95 set full +9 every piece with 4x end except boots which have 3x
Lvl96+9 helm 3xend
Lvl 95 gear deff mdeff eva PWNS!~
^^
And for the 6x dudes deff they might just have very high end and a +9 Armor?
monkeypoohead17
08-27-2009, 07:23 PM
lvl 93 846 =]
fireyair
08-28-2009, 12:11 AM
+9 armor is Win.
Peace:cool:
tempacc
08-28-2009, 12:54 AM
lvl 93 846 =]
Lol. My Lvl 70 full Dex archer has your def. :D
Plushii
08-28-2009, 10:11 AM
For the last time: END sucks in archer builds.
*Kicks you* D<
fireyair
08-28-2009, 12:19 PM
*Kicks you* D<
*Dodges*
See? That's what you get for not using DEX.
Peace:cool:
Plushii
08-28-2009, 02:39 PM
*Dodges*
See? That's what you get for not using DEX.
Peace:cool:
I am >3
See 50 dex
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/Plushii/screenshot311.jpg
BlackDragonEX
08-28-2009, 04:25 PM
Very nice hp lmfao but your dmg is very low
You should remove that end though
And you also have max end armor right?
And any 40end rings?
Plushii
08-28-2009, 10:56 PM
not max end but close =3
And I use 2 paradise rings
And end shall never be removed, from here on I'll go end alll the way >3
I dun care much about dmg :P
.SAD.PANDA
08-28-2009, 11:56 PM
602 base def with STR/SPR build at level 67. just with guild buff.
Moxxie
08-29-2009, 01:11 AM
i think str is a waste of free stat lol
.SAD.PANDA
08-29-2009, 04:54 AM
i think end is a waste of free stat ^^ :P
BlackDragonEX
08-29-2009, 05:44 AM
END is for an archer because it adds low deff and hp is the only benefit and we dont even use sheld block rate.
Koiichi, As you now become ranger when you add +1End To free stat can you tell me exacaly what Hp/Deff It adds please.
i have a feeling one of our free stats now adds more than it used to i just dont know which.
Edit: can ou SS your free stats window
Stingerdan
08-29-2009, 07:16 AM
How do you non END builds get so much darn DEF? I know you say it's all gears but I run END gears WITH my End build and a few of you are still at 600def in your 6x levels. Do you have capped/nearly capped END on EVERYTHING or something? Because it's just not adding up to me.
O__O Your siggy's outdated =o
Plushii
08-29-2009, 01:10 PM
but your dmg is very low
orly xD
(with wife in pt/lic)
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/Plushii/screenshot317.jpg
but my base dmg is only 200 less than yours O=
Anyway I'll post a free stat screenie tomorrow.
asianman1
08-29-2009, 01:41 PM
omg ur build :OOOOO -writes it down and becomes the next koichii ._.- >:DDD
BlackDragonEX
08-29-2009, 02:56 PM
Nice but wait till boom posts his DMG.
And post ur nat stats again please.
BlackDragonEX
08-29-2009, 02:57 PM
And your free stats window please..i wana see what END adds
Moxxie
08-29-2009, 04:27 PM
i think end is a waste of free stat ^^ :P
I think that too
BlackDragonEX
08-29-2009, 04:56 PM
Can you beat my hp?
But I could reach 12k now with the right stuff :3
Moxxie
08-30-2009, 12:11 AM
Can you beat my hp?
But I could reach 12k now with the right stuff :3
Nice lol123213123
solarwings
08-30-2009, 03:01 AM
Well................My def is about 650 at lvl 87?
=D
1035 natural eva though
fireyair
08-30-2009, 06:17 AM
Well................My def is about 650 at lvl 87?
L.m.a.o
J00 needs some END gears. :rolleyes:
Peace:cool:
BlackDragonEX
08-30-2009, 06:35 AM
Well................My def is about 650 at lvl 87?
=D
1035 natural eva though
lol had more mdeff than ur deff at 8x P:
BlackDragonEX
08-30-2009, 03:31 PM
When we pwned helga like usual ^.^
Only Crits No +Deff Items, And ofc, No DMG from a lic.
Hp not mxed ofc
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/Untitled-31.png
lazarakos
08-30-2009, 04:18 PM
Koiichi and Ichigo ur both have amazing dmg and def too. ur evasion is also very high. ur SS make ppl think better of what an archer can do.would u block a fighter, or make?
i think u can! gratz both of u.
i would like to see more archer builds with high dmg,def and evasion!
lazarakos
08-30-2009, 04:19 PM
make?? lol, i mean mage!
solarwings
08-30-2009, 04:29 PM
lol had more mdeff than ur deff at 8x P:
aha yeah no end on gears or build :/ and no +9's :P
BlackDragonEX
08-30-2009, 04:36 PM
Were rangers not SS bro ^^
lazarakos
08-30-2009, 04:40 PM
hhahaha i mean screen shot!! lol my bad
BlackDragonEX
08-30-2009, 04:49 PM
Oh it makes sense now :P
boomdude111
08-30-2009, 09:29 PM
*finds old pic of dmg* maybe i'll remember to take one on 70's and with a cleric/wife and full party someday xD
http://i28.tinypic.com/mjbnf4.jpg
Kurayamiblack
08-31-2009, 12:58 AM
O__O Your siggy's outdated =o
How so? Because Rangers get Binding?
Well, in my sig, that Archer is in his 6X levels. So yeah... we should have that skill by then.
Plus I think it's complete injustice that it's the perfect skill for Archers but you need to be Lv100 to get it AND it's Ranger only which IMO is completely biased towards the Xbow which is already the better weapon <_< All Archers should have it.
Clerics can heal at Lv3, Rev at Lv20, etc. The only thing they don't get is alot of offensive skills and no AOE.
Mages get Drain Mind at Lv60 along with a multi-hitting Magic based AOE and Magic Blast can kite at lv65 or 73(or somewhere around there) and at 81 Magic Blast's Cool Time Enhancement cap gets bigger (I believe with capped Cool empowerments, they can cast every 1.2 seconds)
Archers get poison AOE's that can kite which is awesome but have no real defensive skill in PvP. Binding/Entangle is the perfect cantidate but doesn't come until Lv100 and is Class specific >_>
Fighters get Stun (which is the essentially the same as getting hit by Binding and Drain Mind at the same time which IMO makes it overpowered) before they even hit Lv20 then at 43 they get an AOE stun (Now the, IMO, overpowered skill is an AOE. Mages still don't have Drain Mind yet, Archers getting faceroll'd all over the place).
So it really seems pretty suckish to me that Mages get Fear at 60, Fighters get an AOE stun at 43 which is worse that Fear or Entangle individually, but Archers not only have to wait until Lv100 but also have to promote into a specific branch to use it. At least make it for both classes. :(
And clerics need a bit of help too, but my sig isn't about them. It's about Archers who would really appreciate keeping at least 1 Fighter at a distance for a little while even if it doesn't really change the outcome.
I could go on, but I'll stop here before this whole topic pivots into a new direction.
deathbringer54
08-31-2009, 01:38 AM
483 def at lv 48 no buffs at all, and no not full +9 and i got +0 end
Plushii
08-31-2009, 03:01 AM
Okies here's my highest hp/def, well def is not the highest I can get, I need to pt a capped holy knight to see my max def
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/Plushii/screenshot326.jpg
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/Plushii/screenshot328.jpg
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/Plushii/screenshot327.jpg
deathbringer54
08-31-2009, 03:11 AM
Okies here's my highest hp/def, well def is not the highest I can get, I need to pt a capped holy knight to see my max def
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/Plushii/screenshot326.jpg
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/Plushii/screenshot328.jpg
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww73/Plushii/screenshot327.jpg
no def scroll, ur def can go up.... and just relized u said def not highest.... lol
boomdude111
08-31-2009, 07:54 AM
I can beat your hp, with no end in build...and I've never partied with a hk to see my def :c
marfish58
09-01-2009, 05:01 PM
o.o That's normal?
My lvl 67 archer has 600 def with str/spr build. o:
Not. Look again.
It looks like everyone is comparing apples to oranges and aren't even aware of it.;)
I thought I had a pretty tough built archer...
I have really enjoyed reading this thread and appreciate all the input, but I was getting depressed about my own low def. stats at lvl 67 (557):confused: until I thought to check my def. with no gear on at all. :eek: So...I took off everything including my pet and wanted to throw up (my hands) and quit right there on the spot.:( xd. Then the light went on and I remembered that nobody has the same gear unless it's NPC gear.:)
I"m still wearing 55 blue Plague set armor with a total of +70 END, a green 66 hat+26 END, 60 Xbow with +24 END, +29STR, +29DEX, a Shiny ring-Eldy(+12), Shiny ring-Roumen(+10), and a Honey pet for a total of 143 extra end bringing me up to 312 END(+20). Nothing is enhanced but the Xbow (+9).
I challenge you to try it and report back here. :p. None of you would even recognize yourselves with no gear on and would prolly get pwn'd by Mara. Lol. My base (character) END is 159+20 for a def. of 179: Go figure. So maybe we should all be comparing what our stats give us WITHOUT any gear on, then compare that to what the different gears give us for a more clear picture.
Just my thoughts. Now, please excuse me while I go enhance the Sh** out of everyting I own. xd.
BlackDragonEX
09-01-2009, 05:48 PM
LOL compare with gear other wize my base stats will own as I'm higher lvl
marfish58
09-02-2009, 02:02 AM
LOL compare with gear other wize my base stats will own as I'm higher lvl
Lol. That is precisely why we need to compare WITHOUT our gear on. Obviusly a lvl 80 archer will have different baseline stats than a lvl 60. Also, depending on the choices made in free stat placement, the one stat being compared might look very low or really high. There are archers out there maybe 5 levels lower than me with higher total END. But how do they achieve that? It's a combination of free stats, gear stats, AND enhancments.(and because I have a little more Dex, than END) Charms, buffs, scrolls and the like MUST BE DEDUCTED because of their short-term nature.
OK, maybe I'm missing the point here. If it's all about bragging rights to the highest single stat or multiple stats, the one with the most luck and money will win. And I have some gear and weapons that would drop your jaw and make your eyes turn green with envy. But if it's about the best build for an intended goal despite the chance of not always having the optimum gear for that intended goal then I stick to my position.
Except for when chosing the tank for the boss in a KQ, the game we play of comparing our def. to someone else's def. is totally invalid and arbitrary until we remove ALL of the variables. Then we can look at how each stat works for us (or not). For example; It is totally possible that a fighter built for damage could out rank a tank build in total def.(because of the weapons/gear) It is also totally possible to move up to the next set of gear and go down in total defense points, if your previous gear was 1)enhanced, or 2) the new gear has lousy or no END.(most players can't afford to have all gear/weapons enhanced+9)
After establishing a "naked truth" baseline, we can don our gear and compare the changes. The one with the best gear for the stat being compared will have the most pronounced and dramatic improvement over baseline and is the "winner". This would hold true for all the useful stats.
What I'm proposing here is to remove the artificial numbers boosted by Spark Cash, rare-find gear, uber godly gear, and such. Lol, don't get me wrong. I love enhanced gear and weaponry as much as, or maybe even more than the next guy/gal. The problem is that we can't discuss stat effect until the boosted stats are removed.
Ok, last example of what I"m trying to say. Many of us know about the class of automobile road racing where all the drivers have exactly the same model car. Let's say this time they are Toyota sedans, all prepared the same at the one race shop. All the variables of prep, tricks, tires, and horsepower tuning have been standardized and equalized. The race is now about who are the better drivers, NOT who has the fastest car. But wait, another driver wants to enter his Formula 1 car in our little race. He claims it's a fair comparison because his car is also a "Toyota". And so it is. Do we let him compete with the sedans? Should we maybe add turbo chargers and suspension packages to all our race-prepped sedans to try to even out the threat?...OMG NO,,,NO,,,,NO!!! The race was never about the cars. It was about the drivers. Give one driver an unfair advantage and the race is over before the green flag drops at the start. The race is not the same race with all the extra bling. Likewise in Fiesta, we build around a goal and we buy what gear we can find/afford, so our stats are going to change from time to time, BUT we cant' get a straight comparison of stats with gear in place.
Marfish58
Epith:
Keibler- 6x archer
TEFLON-7x cleric
CORAL- 6x fighter
paperboy- 7x mage
(and others)
whitewolf1234
09-02-2009, 04:00 PM
I haven't found a good 96 hat yet x3
And 21xx is awesome without any sc boosts O= mine is 2555 with invisable suit and backpack, do Rangers get a def boost?
thx x3
but 90% charm can't be done I think, I tried it once but got the same def as 70% charmed.
Actually 90% CAN be done.
to be 90% you need to do this in order!
20% Charm of Str
20% Charm of Def
20% Charm of Might (1 hour)
50% Charm of Might (2 hour from tough cookie pack)
And you will be 90% cookied
^^
BlackDragonEX
09-02-2009, 04:49 PM
Lol 90% don't work bro if ^^
Plushii
09-02-2009, 11:10 PM
exactly =3
Look at your def/dmg at 70%
then charm 90% later, after 70% ran out
Do you see a difference?
whitewolf1234
09-03-2009, 05:08 AM
exactly =3
Look at your def/dmg at 70%
then charm 90% later, after 70% ran out
Do you see a difference?
Yup, Me and my Fiance 90% for ToS or for AR.
yea i do see a difference when 70% runs out
still have the 50% on as well.
Next time when you cookie just go look.
If you dont want to then you dont have to, just trying to give out friendly tips
Zwivix
09-03-2009, 08:58 AM
Ya actually I dont think 90% charms work anymore. Becasue I tried it and it didnt give me more def or dmg than 70%.
whitewolf1234
09-03-2009, 11:53 AM
I will check it later tonight to see.
I hope it still works because i liked it.
BlackDragonEX
09-03-2009, 02:39 PM
well? your out come?
boomdude111
09-03-2009, 09:50 PM
90% works for a total of 2mins, after that the 20 dmg and 20 def runs off and you are jsut on 70's, 40's work and 70's work, not 90's ;/
rematch
09-04-2009, 08:06 PM
Pure DEX lv 74 ARcher, MAx evasion has been 1.1k at lv 68.
Better watch out, urs is low.
GigiBunny
09-05-2009, 05:22 AM
mine is 1442 def at lvl 89.. I can't wait to reach 90 :D
^^ almost there.....
BlackDragonEX
09-05-2009, 06:00 AM
Pointless evasion ^^
Moxxie
09-05-2009, 06:04 AM
D< Eva is ftw
BlackDragonEX
09-05-2009, 10:07 AM
Noooop! Even though it's nice to have it's not a Priority.
rematch
09-05-2009, 11:06 AM
I may say, PvE build DEX is way better than even STR.
PvP, i think a mixture would help.
BlackDragonEX
09-05-2009, 04:14 PM
I'm end/str/spr and it works very well in my armor :P
I got the odd bit of dex in my armor though
boomdude111
09-05-2009, 07:08 PM
dex=fail, nuff said, a hg won't miss on you period, and 1 v 1 pure dex archer vs str/spr or pure str, dex dies, in PvE, dex lacks dmg and can't grind as fast, therefore fail oh, and i know this is a def thread, but jsut thought i would post my base dmg w/o charms or lic in the dmg, this is base dmg with just my wife (:
http://i32.tinypic.com/11ugrup.jpg
Plushii
09-06-2009, 12:54 AM
wow that's epic dmg O=
solarwings
09-06-2009, 01:17 AM
epic everything o.o but boom dont you have a dmg glitch?
just something i heard but idk if its true >.> lol
BlackDragonEX
09-06-2009, 07:00 AM
Boom your bugged x.x Look at my str, Look at my DMG, And thas solo.
Care to exsplain how you have so much more DMG but much less STR?
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/Untitled-34.png
boomdude111
09-06-2009, 07:46 AM
want me to put on my 5x str 100 set and try? ._. and idk, was afk, came back and decided to take a pic and post, it goes higher yes but enver tried to max it, fully charmed with str gear 20k+ is possible :c don't ask me how my dmg is like that :/ it just is
autchiewicz
09-06-2009, 01:16 PM
dex=fail, nuff said, a hg won't miss on you period, and 1 v 1 pure dex archer vs str/spr or pure str, dex dies, in PvE, dex lacks dmg and can't grind as fast, therefore fail oh, and i know this is a def thread, but jsut thought i would post my base dmg w/o charms or lic in the dmg, this is base dmg with just my wife (:
http://i32.tinypic.com/11ugrup.jpg
I've beat str/spr archers all the time,HGs miss on me all the time lol...,and i grind perfectly fine,i kite entire maps no problem,STR doesn't make that big of a diff in pve..
BlackDragonEX
09-06-2009, 02:06 PM
want me to put on my 5x str 100 set and try? ._. and idk, was afk, came back and decided to take a pic and post, it goes higher yes but enver tried to max it, fully charmed with str gear 20k+ is possible :c don't ask me how my dmg is like that :/ it just is
Bugged dude ^^
and i just put on a str shirt to beatur str but yea x.x
your lucky.
boomdude111
09-07-2009, 08:28 AM
i've never lost to a dex archer, period lol o.o not many dex archers 10x yet on Teva but waiting so that there will be a better archer to test against ;/
autchiewicz
09-07-2009, 10:05 AM
Well my evasion is 1439,but i still need dex boots,and i could probably get dex on earrings and necklace,reach about 1500,I've had str archers with end/dex gear and an HG miss on me consistantly
BlackDragonEX
09-07-2009, 03:30 PM
Dex is useless on HT ^^
str/end/spr still owns
Rather have deff than dex anyday imo
autchiewicz
09-07-2009, 04:43 PM
Archers are useless in HT period lol..,the further you go with dex the better it gets.
boomdude111
09-07-2009, 05:23 PM
archers useless in HT? O.O I tank Helga and get aggro more then most fighters besides who we have tanking, and when they get feared, archers get the aggro...we are dps, and when you can tank, we seem to shine ;/ 3 hitting kallaps ftw
redone111
09-07-2009, 05:26 PM
^
Archer God
autchiewicz
09-07-2009, 05:46 PM
Well,I've never really gotten the chance to do much,more than enough tanks and DD's already
BlackDragonEX
09-08-2009, 08:31 AM
Archers are useless in HT period lol..,the further you go with dex the better it gets.
Lmfao x.x Your logic failed.
We Agro the most at all Helga raids, Bacicly tank :/
Dex Archer could never do that,
autchiewicz
09-08-2009, 01:25 PM
Well,sorry for having tanks that can tank Helga on my server. :o
GigiBunny
09-08-2009, 01:34 PM
:O oh my...this thread was about archer def? wait... :confused:
*leaves thread lost*
autchiewicz
09-08-2009, 02:15 PM
:O oh my...this thread was about archer def? wait... :confused:
*leaves thread lost*
Nope,It's about measuring up to each other,as usual
BlackDragonEX
09-08-2009, 03:44 PM
We got tanks too just archers aswell :)
and I'll post my updated deff nat tomorrow
GigiBunny
09-09-2009, 07:03 AM
Nope,It's about measuring up to each other,as usual
my bad o.o I got it now :o
BlackDragonEX
09-09-2009, 08:00 AM
o.o Still not +9ed my New Pants so using other +9 :/
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/Untitled-35.png
hep3d
09-12-2009, 06:33 PM
yo this is fleiscmi biju lvl 89 archer i have bace 2857 dmg when i get lvl 90 BK with 50str on it I have one (50str 42end) im going to +9 it and i calulated ill have base 3879 dmg i have no clue what ill have when i get a helgait but i think ill wreck ur dmg Ichigo and ill only be lvl 91 :) imagin when i have lvl 95 blue armour with str oO prolly be just like bloom :). anyways ill post some scrennies soon showing u incase u think im lieing :P talk to you all soon
hep3d
09-12-2009, 06:39 PM
oh and lol i forgot my bace def is 1478 my gears r lvl86 hat (33str 42end) lvl84 boots (21str 42end) lvl88 pants (43str 28end 43spr) lvl75 mendusa body (34str 39end 14int) lvl85 BK crossbow (41str 10dex) and my rings are 2 strike gold rings (40str) all of my gear is +9 and my necklase is the strike necklase my build is pure str at lvl 89 i have
STR 536 +(104) :) and like i said ill put in some scrennies guys for all of you :)
hep3d
09-12-2009, 06:44 PM
ohh lmao sorry i also forgot to add that i have a weapon skin :P witch im sure both of u guys do as well (boom, and ichigo) so yeah lols soz i forgot to put it earlier
hep3d
09-12-2009, 06:55 PM
lmao ok so this all has gotten me really going and i calculated what my dmg will be with a helgait (i talked to and member of rye who has a helgait crossbow +9) and my dmg will be approx. 4237 give or take 50 dmg because i dont know how much your base str goes up when you lvl from 89-91 and this is if the helgait has no stats so say if it had like 60str on it then my DMG would go up likewise, anyways im really pumped and yet again I will post some scrennies tomoro just to show you all thats this is true lol :)
iibunnyz
09-12-2009, 07:46 PM
Off topic :
Click Edit pl0x hep3d
On topic:
i LOVE ur def BlackDragonEX @_@
byron007
09-12-2009, 10:51 PM
dex=fail, nuff said, a hg won't miss on you period, and 1 v 1 pure dex archer vs str/spr or pure str, dex dies, in PvE, dex lacks dmg and can't grind as fast, therefore fail oh, and i know this is a def thread, but jsut thought i would post my base dmg w/o charms or lic in the dmg, this is base dmg with just my wife (:
http://i32.tinypic.com/11ugrup.jpg
You're either bugged or that's your dmg with a lic :x, which one is it D:? (Nice kill points btw :D)
And I was wondering, what's everyone's highest damage??, can anyone beat 12k?
Rzpect
09-13-2009, 02:08 AM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7403/97067125.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/97067125.jpg/)
=s
no hg btw.
i know. "U HV LOW SPR."
could get 6.7k hp with my old xbow but then eva is gonna be lower o-x
Plushii
09-13-2009, 04:17 AM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7403/97067125.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/97067125.jpg/)
=s
no hg btw.
i know. "U HV LOW SPR."
could get 6.7k hp with my old xbow but then eva is gonna be lower o-x
O=
can you tell me the end on your gear/rings?
fleiscmi
09-13-2009, 07:11 AM
hey could Someone tell me how to insert an image lol i know it says type the url of your image or sum thing but i don't know what that is lol? anyways someone pls and thank you :)
fleiscmi
09-13-2009, 07:16 AM
BTW best HP i have ever gotten is 9456 :) i have scrennie as well if anyone can show me how to post them pls and thank you :)
sk8r_dude
09-13-2009, 02:56 PM
yo this is fleiscmi biju lvl 89 archer i have bace 2857 dmg when i get lvl 90 bk with 50str on it i have one (50str 42end) im going to +9 it and i calulated ill have base 3879 dmg i have no clue what ill have when i get a helgait but i think ill wreck ur dmg ichigo and ill only be lvl 91 :) imagin when i have lvl 95 blue armour with str oo prolly be just like bloom :). Anyways ill post some scrennies soon showing u incase u think im lieing :p talk to you all soon
oh and lol i forgot my bace def is 1478 my gears r lvl86 hat (33str 42end) lvl84 boots (21str 42end) lvl88 pants (43str 28end 43spr) lvl75 mendusa body (34str 39end 14int) lvl85 bk crossbow (41str 10dex) and my rings are 2 strike gold rings (40str) all of my gear is +9 and my necklase is the strike necklase my build is pure str at lvl 89 i have
str 536 +(104) :) and like i said ill put in some scrennies guys for all of you :)
ohh lmao sorry i also forgot to add that i have a weapon skin :p witch im sure both of u guys do as well (boom, and ichigo) so yeah lols soz i forgot to put it earlier
lmao ok so this all has gotten me really going and i calculated what my dmg will be with a helgait (i talked to and member of rye who has a helgait crossbow +9) and my dmg will be approx. 4237 give or take 50 dmg because i dont know how much your base str goes up when you lvl from 89-91 and this is if the helgait has no stats so say if it had like 60str on it then my dmg would go up likewise, anyways im really pumped and yet again i will post some scrennies tomoro just to show you all thats this is true lol :)
omg 4 posts in a row.
BTW best HP i have ever gotten is 9456 :) i have scrennie as well if anyone can show me how to post them pls and thank you :)
go to http://www.photobucket.com
make an account, post your pictures, copy down the IMG code... paste it here, and boom. picute.
BlackDragonEX
09-13-2009, 03:43 PM
hep3d~
I don't think you can beat mine or booms dmg at 91.
And post proof t.t
U dun have a hg so you can't say that's your dmg right ?
:;
fleiscmi
09-13-2009, 03:56 PM
thanks allotSk8r_dude ill nw post some stuff and ichi i will post proof :) just give me one sec ill go get some skrennies
BlackDragonEX
09-13-2009, 03:58 PM
Ok
10chars
Rzpect
09-13-2009, 04:02 PM
O=
can you tell me the end on your gear/rings?
hat: 30
top:37
pant: 48
boot:42
gem earring with +2 end
+2 end blessed necklace
end 16 ring
end 18 ring
end 15 xbow
sk8r_dude
09-13-2009, 04:02 PM
thanks allotSk8r_dude ill nw post some stuff and ichi i will post proof :) just give me one sec ill go get some skrennies
no problemo bro, and what is a skrennie?
sk8r_dude
09-13-2009, 04:03 PM
gem earring with +2 end
+2 end blessed necklace
hrm... my level 10 equips have +5 END..... o.o
BlackDragonEX
09-13-2009, 04:14 PM
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/7403/97067125.jpg (http://img7.imageshack.us/i/97067125.jpg/)
=s
no hg btw.
i know. "U HV LOW SPR."
could get 6.7k hp with my old xbow but then eva is gonna be lower o-x
that deff isn't possible at your lvl with the end you have in gears
you must have invis suit ,backpack or/and 7/10% guild buff
numbahone
09-13-2009, 05:22 PM
^ yea invinc suit
2k w/o it
Plushii
09-14-2009, 08:22 AM
I thought so xD
Still awesome def x3
BlackDragonEX
09-14-2009, 09:50 AM
Pssh My HP Like the same and i got No END :P
Plushii
09-14-2009, 10:11 AM
yep x3 very nice!
did you found ranger gears? I haven't seen any on apoline yet x.x
you have max end on gears and HG?
Rzpect
09-14-2009, 01:38 PM
Pssh My HP Like the same and i got No END :P
umm u are a ranger u get boost?
i will beat ur hp once i hit ranger
BlackDragonEX
09-14-2009, 03:26 PM
Lol my gear was bad for that hp
43-hat
44-shirt
47-pants
42-boots
U won't beat it,and you have end on build tho? :/
fleiscmi
09-14-2009, 03:48 PM
hahahah its me again just letting you know im getting lvl 90 today :) adn ill be posting scrennies of my DMG xD i will have 3,857 with a lvl 90 BK i unno what with helgait but i calculate about 4,278 ichi and ill onlybe lvl 91. anyways ill show the lvl 90 BK dmg tomoro with a SS anyways ttyl
BlackDragonEX
09-14-2009, 04:59 PM
Wep skin though.. /:
Rzpect
09-14-2009, 06:09 PM
lol still have more end in gear than me~
just wait and see.
i will change my build too
there will be no end and 20 end only give 100 hp lol
moezkay
09-14-2009, 09:02 PM
i want to ask u guys with 10k+ hp, do you guys have hp extender and pets?
and is it normal for a lvl100 ranger with no end stats, no buff no scroll; equipped gear 4x end, paradise rings, +hp earrings, to have 8.5k hp?(with hp ext)
numbahone
09-14-2009, 10:34 PM
if u dont use extender how can u get 10k hp...duh? so obvious
and no its not possible to hv 8.5k w/o scrolls and buffs >.> and with me end in stats
btw ichigo i changed my build =) no end in stats now i 100 hp less and 20 less defense so wow not much of a different?
moezkay
09-14-2009, 11:03 PM
if u dont use extender how can u get 10k hp...duh? so obvious
and no its not possible to hv 8.5k w/o scrolls and buffs >.> and with me end in stats
btw ichigo i changed my build =) no end in stats now i 100 hp less and 20 less defense so wow not much of a different?
i saw an lvl100 ranger with just wedding and guild buff and wedding pet, i assume he has no other sc buff except hp extender, and with a hp of 8.5k, no scroll, and no buff, so it means he adds alot of end stats?
numbahone
09-14-2009, 11:06 PM
duh? he add atleast 90 in end
moezkay
09-14-2009, 11:23 PM
duh? he add atleast 90 in end
end build with 1.5k-1.8k crit on a lvl93 archer with+9 top? is that possible?
Rzpect
09-15-2009, 05:39 PM
yea, cause ranger get str boost and well 91 xbow/95 xbow are strong.
u only hv 1 +9...that doesn't do anything at all
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 06:54 AM
http://s933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/fleiscmi/?action=view¤t=godlylvl90stats.jpg
yeah ok so finnaly heres the proof :P okie this is me i just got lvl 90 ppl and plan on getting 91 soon to use my HG cross this is my dmg with a BK lvl 90 cross +9 i have noo buffs no pt buffs no cookies no licenses no marriage buff nothing. all i have is 5% guild buff helgait adds about 400 dmg to this dmg (non statted) so u do the math
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 06:56 AM
http://s933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/fleiscmi/?action=view¤t=godlylvl90stats.jpg
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 06:58 AM
umm this photobucket thingy aint workin? i have tryed to post a photo 2 times and nothing........
s933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/fleiscmi/?action=view¤t=godlylvl90stats.jpg
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 06:59 AM
see it aint working little help pls
GigiBunny
09-17-2009, 07:01 AM
wow I really can't wait to be 91 and use my hg bow then @.@ and aww can't see ur screenies yet but hope to :)
ahh you are double posting the code... remove one of the following:
<---- remove this ...
you should only have this part in the box
s933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/fleiscmi/?action=view¤t=godlylvl90stats.jpg
cuz it will automatically insert the for you ;)
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 07:02 AM
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/fleiscmi/godlylvl90stats.jpghttp://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/fleiscmi/godlylvl90stats.jpg[/IMG]
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 07:02 AM
yayay i figured it out :P!!! :)
GigiBunny
09-17-2009, 07:07 AM
congrats :)
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 07:09 AM
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/fleiscmi/uberHPlol.jpg[/IMG]
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 07:21 AM
o.o Still not +9ed my New Pants so using other +9 :/
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/Untitled-35.png
lol man u only have 4.3k dmg i have 3.8k with lvl 90 BK helgait add's 500dmg base so ill have 4.4k dmg at lvl 91 more than u and your lvl 104 :P
BlackDragonEX
09-17-2009, 08:05 AM
Mhm you were saying?
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/Untitled2-5.png
http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk298/greggles29/Untitled-41.png
Blaxcalibur
09-17-2009, 08:55 AM
Lmfao x.x Your logic failed.
We Agro the most at all Helga raids, Bacicly tank :/
Dex Archer could never do that,
Well,sorry for having tanks that can tank Helga on my server. :o
LAWL owned....*scurries away with lvl 16 archer*
GigiBunny
09-17-2009, 09:02 AM
LAWL owned....*scurries away with lvl 16 archer*
lols and I love your quotes in your siggy ;)
only lvl 16? :o woot to almost 20 which will be easy to do I am sure ;)
^^ and awesome to everyone's def so far Oo whoa
BlackDragonEX
09-17-2009, 03:35 PM
Mhmm not owned
Total bs saying a dexy is better
Rzpect
09-17-2009, 05:54 PM
nice aim fle----
its gonna be fun watching u miss.
Blaxcalibur
09-17-2009, 06:15 PM
Mhmm not owned
Total bs saying a dexy is better
owned with the part about your tanks.
as for str vs dex...i wont comment cuz im tired n lazy
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 06:39 PM
nice aim fle----
its gonna be fun watching u miss.
wait till i can wield my hellgait...? and umm Blackdragon i was saying.......
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/fleiscmi/awesomness.jpg
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 06:40 PM
Look at my str and your str lmao oh yeah and umm im lvl 90... not 104 yet. also my def will be 1527 in a couple days none of my gear is +9 atm (rebuilding stage) ;)
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 06:43 PM
oh and also....
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/fleiscmi/lolsssxD.jpg
fleiscmi
09-17-2009, 06:44 PM
wait till i get helgait Dragon. ill match your dmg at lvl 91 xD
sbr999
09-18-2009, 01:16 AM
This thread got way off-topic by now, the OP's idea was to show his stats and ask more inputs from others def, but it's rather now a 'why I 0wZ, and j0o sucketh' thread O.O lol
Edit: fleiscmi, use the edit button
GigiBunny
09-18-2009, 05:54 AM
whoa 4 posts in a row...careful there fleiscmi :O
I need like 77% to lvl 91 .. and I can't wait :D ofc my def. won't be nearly as great as your guys ;)
fleiscmi
09-18-2009, 09:14 AM
ahaha sowwie guys i am getting off topic :p and sorry about edit -_- but i like to spell bad xD
mooooouse
09-18-2009, 10:08 AM
http://i34.tinypic.com/25syjwg.jpg
No charms or anything, And still using 60 xbow.. Can't find a +9 blue for sale. D:
fleiscmi
09-18-2009, 10:36 AM
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/fleiscmi/helgastr.jpg
lvl 77 cleric in pt :( lvl 90 BK cant wait for lvl 91
BlackDragonEX
09-18-2009, 04:49 PM
Lol your dmg is average
you have a 50str xbow I have 10str on mine..
So if we were compareing how much str we get I could get 8xx
but this is a deff thread >.<
btw who cares about dmg , it's nothing without the deff mdeff Eva and aim to back it up, you have non.
I reach that DMG solo btw :)
Prolly 11k+ max never tried
matthewwii
09-26-2009, 12:13 PM
my stats http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/ecbd5cb0dd178966d3361f9c0988a1632b6f3e00.jpg (http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/generalxmatthew/ss_file-ecbd5cb0dd178966d3361f9c0988a1632b6f3e00.jpg)
dutchboy.h2
09-26-2009, 01:08 PM
ichigo come to bijou so you can be my god :D
fleiscmi
09-28-2009, 05:17 PM
Lol your dmg is average
you have a 50str xbow I have 10str on mine..
So if we were compareing how much str we get I could get 8xx
but this is a deff thread >.<
btw who cares about dmg , it's nothing without the deff mdeff Eva and aim to back it up, you have non.
I reach that DMG solo btw :)
Prolly 11k+ max never tried
lmao dude i dont have def/mdef to back it? lmao i got 1.5k bace def and 869 bace mdef also im lvl 90.... ur lvl 104 (dont compare your str to mine) i will demolish you once i get helgait and lvl 95 lol also i can get 7.5k dmg solo now :)
fleiscmi
09-28-2009, 05:23 PM
http://i933.photobucket.com/albums/ad173/fleiscmi/lvl90statsFTWgodly.jpg
this is with no pt buff only me aloone no scrolls as u can see only 5% guild buff and i heart thingy from marriage also was taken in uruga so u can see no lic involved.
fleiscmi
09-28-2009, 05:26 PM
also that last post IDS to show my def since this thread is about def no dmg xD sorry guys
dutchboy.h2
10-01-2009, 11:21 AM
<-- fail def :D? 10k hp somehow and not even 1k def T.T
BlackDragonEX
10-02-2009, 10:46 AM
Ur deff seems high must be high end +9 8x eqp even 85 maybee....but idc about 8x/9x deff lol i beat you (: