All classes should work together more ;3

[Katsura-chan]

... This is when having a variety of friends is nice. I have a solid set of friends: (Nadya, Barod, Shinshu, and Mundo) and they are really really nice and fun to be with! Barod doesn't complain that he heals, but I die a lot since I'm a mage, and he usually says sorry when I die. I get a bit frustrated, but it's not because of him! It's because I'm so weak.

I get it, other classes DO complain usually, but I have found most clerics to be the worst when it comes to this.

"If it wasn't for us, you'd die" - Cleric
"Well... Buddy, I say thankyou and stuff. It wasn't for us, you'd not be winning any KQ's" - Fighter
"Hey hey! Don't forget me!! If it wasn't for us, you'd take a longer time to kill all those pesky monsters!" - Mage
"You there, all you insolent fools. Fighting, pathetic. Bahahahaahaha. If it wasn't for me... .... .... You could still probably handle everything, I do support a lot though!" - Archer

* My brother is an archer and he's like that xD

Anywho, maybe we can try to work together. A lot of parties are parties because they have variety (Even though I tend to leave Archers in my party as a last resort, except Nadya! ^^) . If it was cleric, cleric, cleric, cleric... Then who would really tank? Excessive MP pots gone to waste. If it was mage mage mage mage... Who would heal? Excessive HP pots gone to waste. If it was Fighter Fighter Fighter Fighter Fighter... You would probably handle yourself extremely well, but still. HP stones and SP stones/pots will be used a lot. Archers are a pretty balanced class.

I know people will say "Well it's the person playing behind the computer, not the class". Well, it's a little bit of both IMO! This isn't skill based, and it's not just hack and slash. It's both! We rely on our skills just as much as our melee (Skills mostly though). So yes, you need to be attentive and you also need to be organized to be successful. A cleric who can heal, but doesn't heal at all isn't a good cleric. A mage who can cast spells, but chooses to pick the ones with least value, is a poor mage. A fighter who can fight and tank for his KQ, who chooses to let others tank for him/her, is a bad fighter. An archer who... Doesn't support, for that extra help, isn't a good archer (I like it how the archers can attack from a far, but they use skills too to do damage). Anyways, that's just my opinion ^^

[farard]

I agree all classes should work together, trouble is there is a "BUT", if a party gets into trouble, its mostly the cleric that gets the blame, for not healing, resing every 2 seconds.

It as comes to the point that if the other classes have not got pots, stones or scrolls i will not party with them. Too many times i've heard " i,ve not used a pot or stone cos cleric kept on healing me" nice comment when i've used 20+ pots keeping ppl alive. Word to the wise to the servile type of cleric, sit on a rubber ring cause its going to hurt.

[Summit]

I agree all classes should work together, trouble is there is a "BUT", if a party gets into trouble, its mostly the cleric that gets the blame, for not healing, resing every 2 seconds.

It as comes to the point that if the other classes have not got pots, stones or scrolls i will not party with them. Too many times i've heard " i,ve not used a pot or stone cos cleric kept on healing me" nice comment when i've used 20+ pots keeping ppl alive. Word to the wise to the servile type of cleric, sit on a rubber ring cause its going to hurt.

well the higher level you get the hp stones become alot more costly than the sp same with tier'd pots.. so yes people want to refrain from using hp pots while you burn your sp.. fighters do burn sp pots faster than you ya know and archers are up close to that also..well taking of course that said fighter and archer actually use skills and not just laziy point click taunt poke method during your whole grind session.

[More-san]

... This is when having a variety of friends is nice. I have a solid set of friends: (Nadya, Barod, Shinshu, and Mundo) and they are really really nice and fun to be with! Barod doesn't complain that he heals, but I die a lot since I'm a mage, and he usually says sorry when I die. I get a bit frustrated, but it's not because of him! It's because I'm so weak.

I get it, other classes DO complain usually, but I have found most clerics to be the worst when it comes to this.

"If it wasn't for us, you'd die" - Cleric
"Well... Buddy, I say thankyou and stuff. It wasn't for us, you'd not be winning any KQ's" - Fighter
"Hey hey! Don't forget me!! If it wasn't for us, you'd take a longer time to kill all those pesky monsters!" - Mage
"You there, all you insolent fools. Fighting, pathetic. Bahahahaahaha. If it wasn't for me... .... .... You could still probably handle everything, I do support a lot though!" - Archer

* My brother is an archer and he's like that xD

Anywho, maybe we can try to work together. A lot of parties are parties because they have variety (Even though I tend to leave Archers in my party as a last resort, except Nadya! ^^) . If it was cleric, cleric, cleric, cleric... Then who would really tank? Excessive MP pots gone to waste. If it was mage mage mage mage... Who would heal? Excessive HP pots gone to waste. If it was Fighter Fighter Fighter Fighter Fighter... You would probably handle yourself extremely well, but still. HP stones and SP stones/pots will be used a lot. Archers are a pretty balanced class.

I know people will say "Well it's the person playing behind the computer, not the class". Well, it's a little bit of both IMO! This isn't skill based, and it's not just hack and slash. It's both! We rely on our skills just as much as our melee (Skills mostly though). So yes, you need to be attentive and you also need to be organized to be successful. A cleric who can heal, but doesn't heal at all isn't a good cleric. A mage who can cast spells, but chooses to pick the ones with least value, is a poor mage. A fighter who can fight and tank for his KQ, who chooses to let others tank for him/her, is a bad fighter. An archer who... Doesn't support, for that extra help, isn't a good archer (I like it how the archers can attack from a far, but they use skills too to do damage). Anyways, that's just my opinion ^^

the reason for that is
clerics-unappreciated and they can do kingdom quests
Fighters-most can do alchemy
Mage-generally useless i get on fine without one i've almost NEVER teamed up with one and when i do we are never seen together
Archer-again useless who nedds a cheerleader?
So me More-san have nullified everything u just said ha ha ha

[More-san]

... This is when having a variety of friends is nice. I have a solid set of friends: (Nadya, Barod, Shinshu, and Mundo) and they are really really nice and fun to be with! Barod doesn't complain that he heals, but I die a lot since I'm a mage, and he usually says sorry when I die. I get a bit frustrated, but it's not because of him! It's because I'm so weak.

I get it, other classes DO complain usually, but I have found most clerics to be the worst when it comes to this.

"If it wasn't for us, you'd die" - Cleric
"Well... Buddy, I say thankyou and stuff. It wasn't for us, you'd not be winning any KQ's" - Fighter
"Hey hey! Don't forget me!! If it wasn't for us, you'd take a longer time to kill all those pesky monsters!" - Mage
"You there, all you insolent fools. Fighting, pathetic. Bahahahaahaha. If it wasn't for me... .... .... You could still probably handle everything, I do support a lot though!" - Archer

* My brother is an archer and he's like that xD

Anywho, maybe we can try to work together. A lot of parties are parties because they have variety (Even though I tend to leave Archers in my party as a last resort, except Nadya! ^^) . If it was cleric, cleric, cleric, cleric... Then who would really tank? Excessive MP pots gone to waste. If it was mage mage mage mage... Who would heal? Excessive HP pots gone to waste. If it was Fighter Fighter Fighter Fighter Fighter... You would probably handle yourself extremely well, but still. HP stones and SP stones/pots will be used a lot. Archers are a pretty balanced class.

I know people will say "Well it's the person playing behind the computer, not the class". Well, it's a little bit of both IMO! This isn't skill based, and it's not just hack and slash. It's both! We rely on our skills just as much as our melee (Skills mostly though). So yes, you need to be attentive and you also need to be organized to be successful. A cleric who can heal, but doesn't heal at all isn't a good cleric. A mage who can cast spells, but chooses to pick the ones with least value, is a poor mage. A fighter who can fight and tank for his KQ, who chooses to let others tank for him/her, is a bad fighter. An archer who... Doesn't support, for that extra help, isn't a good archer (I like it how the archers can attack from a far, but they use skills too to do damage). Anyways, that's just my opinion ^^

the reason for that is
clerics-unappreciated and they can do kingdom quests
Fighters-most can do alchemy
Mage-generally useless i get on fine without one i've almost NEVER teamed up with one and when i do we are never seen together
Archer-again useless who nedds a cheerleader?
So me More-san have nullified everything u just said ha ha ha

p.s. just a heads up but clerics are going to war and when they do itse vendetta time baby.

[Leedles]

Couldn't agree with you more Katsura. It gets annoying seeing all the class bashing/revolt threads. If people would spend their energy trying to find decent parties and working on their team skills, the forums and fiesta would be a much nicer place.

I actually know some VERY good archers. Archers are nice to pt with because they can pull and do dps, rather than straight dd. I know mages can pull ... but I personally think it's better for the archers, since they have nature's protection. They are not just cheerleaders and they are probably the most unappreciated class, not clerics.

[Sharajen]

More-San all you've proved in your previous post is that you are narrow minded and no one decent wants to pt with you. Perhaps because you never give anyone a chance?

Generalizing reduces your gaming experience, and I for one feel sorry for you, your never going to know the benefits of a good party with an attitude like that.

[Archaonn]

I have encountered to many idiots who have ruined the game for me.