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Rorin_V
08-28-2009, 07:55 PM
So haven't seen any posts about this event, so I thought I'd start it off.

First, by saying that the event is impossible. If I've calculated it correctly, the event runs for 14 days. 14days * 24hours/day = 336 hours total.

Now, for every TWO hours you spend actually grinding or PvPing; not just standing around, mining, herbing, or vending, you get ONE summer point. Ergo the maximum number of Summer Points you can get is 336/2 or 168 points. This assumes that you don't eat, drink, sleep, or go to the bathroom at any point and don't stand still longer than a few seconds here or there. Remember that you need at least 100 Summer Points to win the grand prize, if not more.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I enjoy a little sleep every now and then. Let's say we're talking about a younger person though, that can live off 6 hours of sleep every night. If this were a shorter event it'd be easy to say that you'd just stay up. Since it's two weeks, there's no way you won't crash and burn at some point, so we'll say an average of 6 hours sleep. So that's 6 hours/day * 14 days = 84 hours sleeping over the course of the event. 84/2 = 42 summer points you can't get, just because your body has to do a silly thing like sleep!

Next there's that pesky eating thing. But how can you concentrate on staying on top of that tiny platform at King of the Hill if your stomach's rumbling? So let's say that you can snarf a granola bar for breakfast and a Hot Pocket for lunch, but if you're a younger person, chances are you'll be made to sit at the dinner table with the rest of the family, and if you're older you'll probably need more sleep than the younger person, so this kind of balances out. Let's assume that you need a half hour every day to eat. So that's 0.5 hours/day * 14 days = 7 hours/2 = 3.5 Summer Points lost. But since you can't get half a Summer Point, that's 4 points down the tubes. All for a Hot Pocket!

The time calculated for eating also includes drinking, because most of us can easily sit at a computer and suck down a Mt. Dew or a Pepsi while fighting with the other hand on the keyboard. But let's not forget that what goes in must come out. Eventually that Mt. Dew will run right through you. And since your diet is consisting of some not-so-healthy, yet convenient, foods, you'll need to spend some quality time on the porcelain throne. Let's just say 15 minutes a day. So, 0.25 hours/day * 14 days / 2 = 1.75 Summer Points gone. Again, you can't get a partial summer point so we have to round up to 2.

Now, at some point you may notice a funny odor. Believe it or not, it's not a skunk that sprayed outside your window or some roadkill that the Public Works Dept. hasn't come to scrape off the road yet. Nope, it's you! You reek! Go take a shower because you're not Professor Snape, and you can't pull off the greasy-haired look like he can; trust me. Lose another 15 minutes per day for another 2 Summer Point loss.

So let's see what that gives us so far. 42 + 4 + 2 + 2 = 50 Summer Points minimum down the tubes just because your body has needs! So the maximum number of points you could get would be 168-50 = 118.

Don't forget that you can't get points while you're not fighting, so when you have to go back into town to sell stuff because your inventory is full or you're running low on potions, that's more time lost. And if you sleep any more than 6 hours per day, the family wants you to go out to dinner, you have chores to do, or you pretty much need to do anything besides grind and what I've listed above, you don't stand a chance of winning!

My conclusion; if anyone gets more than 100 Summer Points (that's more than 200 hours of play-time) then they found a way to make it look like they were playing when they actually weren't, i.e. they cheated. Either that or they're a super-human who doesn't need to eat, sleep, or poop (but everybody poops!)....

deoxys114
08-28-2009, 08:11 PM
Good point. It all makes sense. But there's one thing. I'm not sure if this gives much more time, and I'm not sure it works this way. But they say every 2 consecutive hours you get 1 summer point. So you can potentially get 2 summer points in 3 hours. Lets call them Hour 1, Hour 2, and Hour 3. Hour 1 to Hour 2, that's 2 consecutive hours, and Hour 2 to Hour 3. That's another 2 consecutive hours. So you can get 2 points in 3 hours. So in 5 hours, you can get 4 points.

Hope that made sense.

star4242
08-28-2009, 08:44 PM
i understand both of you, but why can't it be 1hr. playing=1summerpoint beacouse imean 2 hours seems a bit unfair. Besides you play like 10 hrs and all you get is 5 points it seems pretty dumb if you know what i mean.
You can't ride the stars,but the stars rider your eyes.

doomcloud
08-29-2009, 10:28 AM
Exactly why I didn't participate. Hamelin/Outspark is trying to make us fail school, too D: I HAS SKOOL D<

dyan1
08-29-2009, 11:40 AM
If we use the Forum MVPs as a basis, I have reason to hope that this event will extend indefinitely XD

Rorin_V
08-31-2009, 02:27 PM
As of midnight Outspark time last night, one person has 18 Summer Points.

They would need a minimum of 100-18 = 82 Summer Points to have a chance of winning the grand prize, or they would have to play a minimum of 164 hours more in the time remaning.

As of midnight Outspark time last night there would be 240 hours left. 240 - 164 = 76 hours to do everything else they need to do to stay alive over the next 10 days. That's 7.6 hours per day to sleep, eat, bathe, etc...

Just thought I'd keep everyone updated.

Rorin_V
09-03-2009, 09:29 AM
Another update; as of midnight last night, the leader has 38 Summer Points. They need now a minimum of 62 Summer Points to win the contest, or that's 124 hours of playtime.

As of midnight last night there were 168 hours remaining. 168 - 124 = 44 hours. There are 7 days left. That gives them 44/7 or roughly 6.3 hours per day to sleep, eat, etc.

Honestly, I'm surprised that someone has that many points so far, but they're cutting it mighty fine...

deoxys114
09-03-2009, 09:42 AM
I will repost what I said earlier.

I'm not sure if this gives much more time, and I'm not sure it works this way. But they say every 2 consecutive hours you get 1 summer point. So you can potentially get 2 summer points in 3 hours. Lets call them Hour 1, Hour 2, and Hour 3. Hour 1 to Hour 2, that's 2 consecutive hours, and Hour 2 to Hour 3. That's another 2 consecutive hours. So you can get 2 points in 3 hours. So in 5 hours, you can get 4 points.

Rorin_V
09-03-2009, 03:11 PM
I will repost what I said earlier.

I'm not sure if this gives much more time, and I'm not sure it works this way. But they say every 2 consecutive hours you get 1 summer point. So you can potentially get 2 summer points in 3 hours. Lets call them Hour 1, Hour 2, and Hour 3. Hour 1 to Hour 2, that's 2 consecutive hours, and Hour 2 to Hour 3. That's another 2 consecutive hours. So you can get 2 points in 3 hours. So in 5 hours, you can get 4 points.

I highly doubt that's the way it works. Overlapping intervals would greatly complicate things for this contest. Let's take it to extremes to show you what I mean.

Let's say I started playing at 1:00PM. At 3:00PM I would then have a summer point because I've been playing for two consecutive hours. If the intervals overlapped, the at 3:01 PM I could earn another point because I've been playing for two consecutive hours, just these two consecutive hours started at 1:01PM instead of 1:00PM. And so on and so on...

It'd be nice if it did work that way, but I am fairly certain that the two hours are discrete, non-overlapping units of time.

The person with the 38 Summer Points has spent 76 hours playing, or roughly 3 days out of the past 7. It is entirely possible, but I can think of better things I could be doing from time to time... Although if I had that amount of time on my hands, I might spend it trying to win a free iPod Touch, too...

ultimatewizard
09-03-2009, 07:30 PM
where do you find the amount of summer points you have?

deoxys114
09-03-2009, 09:55 PM
Actually, it's not very hard to program it as such. Make a few counters. And put in a while loop into the code with a paramater of if the time ends in 00, start counting. In that loop, put in an if statement that says if counter equals 120, if you go by minutes, then stop counting.

If you know how to program, that would make sense to you. XD If not, well, it's not hard to program that.

ultimatewizard
09-04-2009, 04:01 PM
I can't find a record of summer points anywhere
please help

narutofirejutsu
09-07-2009, 04:35 PM
i was 4th place sept 3rd, 19 points total. and the first post guy forgot school. with school factored in(its that time of year now >.<) i would only get 3 points (wake up at 7, school till 3,3-5 1 point, swimming5-7, 7 1/2-9 1/2 1 more point,9 1/2- 11 0 point) = 2 points per weekday.sept 4th is +2.. =21 points. i would need to spend ALL of my free time(aka not do any homework) just to reach 30 points....... and i wanna keep my 110% grade thanks. as such i stoppped participating in the event. the event was pointless to begin with.

Young ppl: sleep 6, school 7, home work 1-2, food/takeout 1/2(=1), bathroom 15 min(=1), about 16-17 hours of the day spent without points, aka maximum 4-5 points per day.(note that my 19 points accumulated over summer, not from a bot during school)

older ppl: sleep 8, work/nightjob 8, family/self 2-3, bathroom 15(=1), about 19-20 hours spent without points(unless you a)work at outspark or b) skipped/never had work) aka max 2-3 points per day, unless a) or b) applies which would be 6-7 points.

summary: Kono ibento wa muri da.
and for those of you who cant understand english: this event is impossible.

joenarbj
09-10-2009, 01:00 AM
Per days is 12 points max it means no life.
No life for school, work or even a real life.
This event doesnt say that this is accumulative point type.

I tried to join during the first 3 days of the event
I leveled my elementalist PVP rank from officer 3 to officer 5
In my computation, it was a non-stop play of Fight for Flag for 2 days.
Upon checking the leaderboard my name didnt appear on any rank or not gaining even a sinlge point :(
thats why it makes me wonder if the said event is real or whats happening lol

Then still observing for the event to pass, i decided to level my elementalist level 93.

I did leveling during weekends, level 92 to 93 for 3 days Saturday to monday.
i gained almost 50 Million Experience

then as checking the leaderboard of the event, shocks i gained 14 points.

why i got less point?

Leveling a lvl 92 is not easy..

Underwater monster are too strong that for sure you will die easily and you need to revive in town and buy some pots in shop or in Flea market.

Or because of the Server Lag , you need to relog or do some restart.

And i think those event also affect your summer points..

It sad that the event end that no one can do a 100 points

As my idea, i keep on staying inside the map for whole day and stay they even im stone (dead) im waiting there that i might gain points or better to die there in map to level my pet (picky)

I just turn on my computer whole day and let my character stay in map.

yet no point was gain. waste of electricity..

I only gain the level of my pet now at level 7...

It was a sad event..

all i need to wait is the authenticity of my time so they can send me my prize the SUNFLOWER DASH :(

anyways...

Enjoy Windslayer


JNAR2
Elementalist
Level 93
officer5

backuponthelight
09-10-2009, 05:13 AM
hey jnar you are good im sure you will find a way to pass this sad event

ultimatewizard
09-10-2009, 12:42 PM
why are there no clear links available for the scoreboard?
it took me ages to find the darn thing and now I'm very disappointed
I found out my character isn't awarded any points even though I played well over 60 hours in hopes of getting a hat
I didn't see it stated anywhere that novice characters where not allowed to participate in the event or I would have played with one of my other characters
Is there anyway I can get the hat I worked so hard to try and earn?

star4242
09-12-2009, 02:34 AM
then what happends when i make a afk room in windslayer and leave my char there. Will it get me summer points?

nanora23456
09-22-2009, 03:42 PM
just put something heavy on one of the keys of ur keyboard that does something and u might have a chance of winning :D

backuponthelight
10-13-2009, 12:49 AM
im very sad someone hacked me
from lvl 52 now i am 10

he delete all my char
i was cristyarchmage lvl 52 professor lvl 5

backuponthelight
10-13-2009, 12:50 AM
what to do to get back my lvl 52 character?
i can do anything?
someone tell me please