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jingrox
09-06-2009, 01:01 PM
pvp kq's r fun and a great way to fight against ppl ur lvl instead of getting destroyed in the fbz's. but one thing that bothers me is the "unfairness" that happens within -.- ppl team that doesnt bug me as much that will happen, but wat really bothers me is the charms,buffs,extenders,scrolls,+9 gear, etc.

If this pvp wwas really meant to allow others to be on similar lvls then y r these things allowed????? i mean comon ppl come in there scrolled to high heaven and charmed to the point of bursting. not to mention crt outfits and weapon skins add to the destructive unfairness.:mad: outspark this really needs to be changed. its not fair to those who cant afford sc or those who use it for other purposes(Ex. exp boost and bot cuz abyss training make u lose exp wen killed by a player -.-)

This pvp kq shuld have at least some rules to it, if only temporary ones. Like: outfits that have been purchased from the sc store can be worn but any added effect on them is temporarly disabled.
~ +9 weapons and armor shuld be knocked down to +0 until the pvp kq is over then shall be restored (This also includes weapon skins)
~ Charms and extenders shuld be disabled until the end of the pvp kq
~ Any scrolling/buffin upon entering will be removed(unless ur a cleric then buffing is allowed cuz its ur skill.

These changes will at least make the pvp kq's seem at least fair. i mean u limit us to only using stones but you'll let players buff themselves to godlike status rite b4 they enter??? how does that make anysense???:mad:

My point is that this needs to be addressed and changed and im sure there are ppl who agree with me. If u wanna make it "fair" then dont just limit our healing items -.- limit our equipment and charms.

i wanna know wat evryone else thinks of my idea please post your replies are most welcome

drigr_x
09-06-2009, 01:05 PM
ROFL! You must be a cleric if you think all other classes don't deserve a buff except clerics.

The one thing you DON'T have a problem with is the one thing that IS unfair. That is teaming. All sorts of buffs/charms/+9s are fair because everyone has access to them. Get a guildy to buff you, get some IG cash and buy +9s/T3 scrolls and do some chores/get a job for charms. Even though charming for PvP KQ is kinda sad to begin with...

andrey1990
09-06-2009, 02:00 PM
Personally, I like OP's ideas but that will never happend :D.

skysparkle
09-06-2009, 02:03 PM
i agree with op but its been said before it wont ever change

sparky_69
09-06-2009, 02:06 PM
+9 Items isnt unfair..It's the player's money and the player's HARD WORK.

Charms/Ext can be unfair...But it also the player's IRL MONEY. And he have the right to ENJOY IT.

I think i've said enough...

jingrox
09-06-2009, 02:18 PM
lol i think u misunderstand wat i mean, if this pvp kq is meant to put us against similar lvls then the item usage shuld be limited too. yes ppl can have +9 gear...but the fight other players with it? thats wat fbz's are for. second imma fighter ^^ and there r many things i dont like about other classes, (but im not complaining about those cuz its thier skils thier rite u just have to deal with it. xD) wat i am complaing about is the huge amount of "over" buffing that ppl do. i get mages that charm up and have over 6k health and each attack does over 1600 x.x how the heck r u suppose to fight with that?? teaming will always happen :/ friends wont hurt each other and guildys team i get it, but wen 3/4 of the kq is one guild...yea i can see were it gets annoying. but if they didnt have thier charms and scrolls and extenders and thier +9' gear, then everyone wuld rely on "real" pvp skill not the charmed up, wanna be versions of themselves. then teaming wuldnt be so bad bcuz ppl who have good builds on thier charcter will be able to fight bak. it gets rediculous wen somone sits there and trash talks wen thier character is only good cuz of the things they buy. thats wat fbz's are for. :/

bxd_bowss
09-06-2009, 03:29 PM
I only think that charms should be disabled and people shouldn't team as much. It's not thing to not want to kill your friend and another for you AND your friend to both atk someone, but I guess that's kinda how it goes lol. Atleast charms get taken away for that amount of time though.

But chances are that wont happen so save up your pocket change and buy some charms, but as for me. I will stick to the no charm for pvp, only for pve though people think I charm anyways ^^.

subaru15
09-06-2009, 04:19 PM
I agree with what you are saying but Outspark will never change the rules of the pvp kq I wish the cash abilities could be disabled for the kq but its cash and money seems to make to world go round

zephyr_wind
09-06-2009, 04:36 PM
Scrolls aren't a really big thing because if you get the hammer just go after the scrolled people and bye, bye scrolls. +9 weapons and armor are fine. They pay either IG money for them or rl money to enhance it. Both require some kind of effort to obtain. As for everything else, yeah charms and cookies should be temporarily disabled. Extenders do cause an imbalance but it's not too hard to kill someone with them. I kill extendered fighters a lot so it's not a big deal to me.

da_blue_wiz1
09-06-2009, 04:54 PM
Theres already a thread on this dude
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222632

gatormaster
09-06-2009, 05:18 PM
pvp kq's r fun and a great way to fight against ppl ur lvl instead of getting destroyed in the fbz's. but one thing that bothers me is the "unfairness" that happens within -.- ppl team that doesnt bug me as much that will happen, but wat really bothers me is the charms,buffs,extenders,scrolls,+9 gear, etc.

If this pvp wwas really meant to allow others to be on similar lvls then y r these things allowed????? i mean comon ppl come in there scrolled to high heaven and charmed to the point of bursting. not to mention crt outfits and weapon skins add to the destructive unfairness.:mad: outspark this really needs to be changed. its not fair to those who cant afford sc or those who use it for other purposes(Ex. exp boost and bot cuz abyss training make u lose exp wen killed by a player -.-)

This pvp kq shuld have at least some rules to it, if only temporary ones. Like: outfits that have been purchased from the sc store can be worn but any added effect on them is temporarly disabled.
~ +9 weapons and armor shuld be knocked down to +0 until the pvp kq is over then shall be restored (This also includes weapon skins)
~ Charms and extenders shuld be disabled until the end of the pvp kq
~ Any scrolling/buffin upon entering will be removed(unless ur a cleric then buffing is allowed cuz its ur skill.

These changes will at least make the pvp kq's seem at least fair. i mean u limit us to only using stones but you'll let players buff themselves to godlike status rite b4 they enter??? how does that make anysense???:mad:

My point is that this needs to be addressed and changed and im sure there are ppl who agree with me. If u wanna make it "fair" then dont just limit our healing items -.- limit our equipment and charms.

i wanna know wat evryone else thinks of my idea please post your replies are most welcome

I agree with you that the CS makes any form of pvp rediculiously unbalanced but 2 things:

1) If there were no buffs or advantages in pvp kq and all the people are around the same level, very few would go down unless people teamed.

2) When you go into a pvp kq, you know 100% that your getting into a fight. I can understand if you get attacked by unfair levels and/or you get attacked without consenting to it (like in Abyss) but in pvp KQ, you are THERE to fight and the majority of people there are around your level. Therefore, you completely know what your getting into.

Although I agree CS items are a huge game balance flaw, pvp KQ depends on them to not stand still (which is why I don't like nor participate in pvp kq)

I agree with your issue on teaming but think about it, if there was no teaming then lets say one of those ubber buffed out people enter's pvp kq and no one there could stop him/her. To give people a chance to take down these kinds of people is where teaming comes in...not like you have much of a choice at that point anyway.


+9 Items isnt unfair..It's the player's money and the player's HARD WORK.

Charms/Ext can be unfair...But it also the player's IRL MONEY. And he have the right to ENJOY IT.

I think i've said enough...

One thing I need to laugh at, you think any form of items bought with spark cash were form the player's hard work? mabye they earned the money to earn it but as a player to gain power thats not work, thats buying your way to the top. Unless you mean filling out the payment information was any form of work. You admit that the charms and extenders are unfair but the buyers should enjoy it. agreed. But that doesn't mean they need to be in effect in pvp kq to disrupt game balance. They can enjoy it outside of pvp kq instead.


Theres already a thread on this dude
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222632

Lets face it, theres already a thread for everything. No point in pointing it out to the OP.

drigr_x
09-06-2009, 05:34 PM
I have a better idea. Have everyone stripped down of their IG/SC buffs, weapons, armor, and skills. THAT would be the type of PvP you seem to want ;P

gatormaster
09-06-2009, 05:46 PM
I have a better idea. Have everyone stripped down of their IG/SC buffs, weapons, armor, and skills. THAT would be the type of PvP you seem to want ;P

Sounds as exciting as a pillow fight lol

drigr_x
09-06-2009, 06:02 PM
DUDE! They could give us pillows instead!

jingrox
09-06-2009, 07:40 PM
lol that wuld be fun but thx guys ur input is a big help :)

neko_play
09-06-2009, 08:56 PM
roflmao...

gatormaster
09-06-2009, 11:16 PM
DUDE! They could give us pillows instead!

*sarcastically* TOTALLY! hey you should also be put in a some PJ's too along with your pillow! I'm gonna stuff bricks in my pillow and trap someone in my sleeping bag, and put someone else in a headlock with my sheets! :rolleyes:


lol that wuld be fun but thx guys ur input is a big help :)

Your welcome? o.o