View Full Version : Vendetta Vs Envy (Who said Vendetta is Unbeatable
sandoval4444
09-08-2009, 06:56 PM
I heard GM`s said the Vendetta guild hasnt lost a guild war??, well look at this:cool:
http://i26.tinypic.com/dgmo29.jpg
hmmm.....? well the only thing i have to say its.it was fun? oh and:rolleyes:
<333333333 SafeAsMilk <33333333333
icetra
09-08-2009, 06:59 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaayum.
*ahem*
Congratulations. Hehe. :P
alberto777
09-08-2009, 06:59 PM
yeah, i saw, Envy owned :D, and they did a Guild KQ awesomely xD
mifdsam
09-08-2009, 07:02 PM
well, that's only cause I wasn't there!
lol, just kidding xPP
hyuk9101
09-08-2009, 07:03 PM
LOL
I guess Vendetta isnt the best anymore
nubtheclub
09-08-2009, 07:07 PM
Maybe next time i'll fight the war :P, also you guys stay out of fom >.>
saueracker
09-08-2009, 07:07 PM
Infin im not impressed with you. To think porting and joining kqs means envy won? WE never said Vendetta wasn't beatable. But to win due to running n porting? and none of us participated? Maybe next time i wont sit aside simply because envy consists of people on my friends list. on top of that the only kills were on a low level.
Thanks a lot o.O I was so counting the minutes until someone made a thread like this. I didnt expect u to.
carlos1000
09-08-2009, 07:09 PM
Infin im not impressed with you. To think porting and joining kqs means you won? WE never said Vendetta wasn't beatable. But to win due to running n porting? and none of us participated? Maybe next time i wont sit aside simply because envy consists of people on my friends list. on top of that the only kills were on a low level.
Thanks a lot o.O I was so counting the minutes until someone made a thread like this. I didnt expect u to.
lol u jelous or something? come on, Envy totally owned that war
Congratulations!
saueracker
09-08-2009, 07:12 PM
im not jealous, im offended.
alberto777
09-08-2009, 07:14 PM
im not jealous, im offended.
i think they did fight, they killed lots of vendetta for 30min and the other, they went Guild KQing xD, they wanted to help people on quests, and they did great, i envy them :D
icetra
09-08-2009, 07:14 PM
However, that other thread had a faint tone about being 'unbeatable'.
sandoval4444
09-08-2009, 07:15 PM
im not jealous, im offended.
awww come on saueracker, look at Koju he is not even offended..and btw
the first 30mins we were winning and then we just decided to go to KQ for fun, please dont take it seriously :3, i still like u =3
achickentender
09-08-2009, 07:18 PM
i think they did fight, they killed lots of vendetta for 30min and the other, they went Guild KQing xD, they wanted to help people on quests, and they did great, i envy them :D
lmao sawwy but spam killing low lvl/afk doesnt sit well with me..
glad you guys overlooked the porting and sitting in FOM
kthnx
saueracker
09-08-2009, 07:18 PM
lol ive gone on many occasions to pvp and let them kill me because i didn't need the placements. as for the other, the majority of them went to Spider kq and not pvp. if you didn't know.
Im not against Envy, i was against warring them because they are my friends. But to post on forums with intent to insult? i dont agree with.
Angelos
09-08-2009, 07:20 PM
The first 30 mins were without the main guildies ;o
And yeah.. Attacking, mounting, porting, killing low lvls, hiding in FoM, running like a little nub isn't exactly a great win.....
Kinda cheap tbh =_=
So yeah.. if you managed to offend sau.. congratz! VERY hard to do ;o
But meh... Enjoy it while it lasts ^o^
And no thats not a threat..
<3
alberto777
09-08-2009, 07:22 PM
you guys need to chill, angry for a game? come on
saueracker
09-08-2009, 07:27 PM
again i am not angry, i am offended. Not by the win, byt the way ti was earned and that it couldnt have remained clean.
alberto777
09-08-2009, 07:32 PM
ok, first of all just chillax!, go outside and breath some air!
and then post
thevoid
09-08-2009, 07:32 PM
i didn't know not participating was considered running o.o well i guess i'll know better next time.
SweetLavender
09-08-2009, 07:40 PM
not believing you actually WON the guild war. It take more than an announcement to prove winnning.
alberto777
09-08-2009, 07:41 PM
well, when i was in elderine with my newb, i saw envy kicking their butt badly o.O so i believe they did, cuz i saw everyone from vendetta in the ground, falling, i wanna join envy <3
sandoval4444
09-08-2009, 07:45 PM
lmao sawwy but spam killing low lvl/afk doesnt sit well with me..
glad you guys overlooked the porting and sitting in FOM
kthnx
oh umm just let me say something quick chickentender, you guys have lvl 80`s vs us so dont be like ``oh yeah you guys kill low lvls``, its not like that chickentender, if u want it fair then make it fair, make ur lvl 8x`s to not attk us and we wont attk ur low lvls, if thats how u want it, i finaly think its fair, gosh, lvl 82 vs like a lvl 6x, not fair xD, and chickentender, dont take it too serious^^
dragonofzhan
09-08-2009, 08:01 PM
Alright!! Good job Envy!!!
achickentender
09-08-2009, 08:02 PM
lmao so a cookied lvl 60 is totally ok with killing lvl 40/50s
but then when we show up its not fair if we kill you?
so your thread shouldnt be called envy vs vendetta..it should be envy vs. vendettas lowbies(ported when the high lvls came)
i loled at your attempt to justify yourself tho<3
Deaths_Will
09-08-2009, 08:04 PM
I heard GM`s said the Vendetta guild hasnt lost a guild war??, well look at this:cool:
http://i26.tinypic.com/dgmo29.jpg
hmmm.....? well the only thing i have to say is i spawned there noobs afk and shop killed but it was? fun. :rolleyes:
<333333333 SafeAsMilk <33333333333
congrats? ............
sandoval4444
09-08-2009, 08:05 PM
lmao so a cookied lvl 60 is totally ok with killing lvl 40/50s
but then when we show up its not fair if we kill you?
so your thread shouldnt be called envy vs vendetta..it should be envy vs. vendettas lowbies(ported when the high lvls came)
i loled at your attempt to justify yourself tho<3
1 question, whats a cookied lvl 60?
and also u guys killed us with CutThroat and Angelos and all of those 8x so
and plz chickentender, dont be mad ^^
ChromeKitten
09-08-2009, 08:23 PM
>.< Noodles' stalker and peeps be fighting. Can't we all just hug it out and have some cookies?
saueracker
09-08-2009, 08:28 PM
i wish people could just be nice for once. No need to insult and what not. People need to learn to be a bit more compassionate towards others.
as for killing ppl afk, that speaks volumes in itself. I know many that do it and i dont approve. Will that make it stop? not likely.
No point asking the world to be fair, otherwise i'd be enjoying the days i have left outside and id be healthy. I guess it would be the same when referring to a game.
Sharlyne
09-08-2009, 08:37 PM
woot owned gratz envy :o
icetra
09-08-2009, 08:39 PM
...
I understand how many of you feel, but I'd like to point this out. Tis is a game, and as some people have said...it is war. You do everything you can to win the war, no matter the sacrifice. In that, there IS no rules. Nothing you could say can probably justify that. Else I'll be ranting about 'SparkCash makes everything unfair' again. :/ From what I'm hearing on another side of the story, and reading these comments, this war was more or less won with unfairness, and low tactic maybe, however...it's a game, and it's technically a 'victory' in the game's eyes, but to the rest, it's not if they didn't put enough effort.
Vendetta - If you're high levels came in, that is true...the war would've been won because of that you have many high levels going to 5x - 8x. You say that they were killing the low levels...and you weren't there? If I had to say...that there should be a rematch. But again, who was the source that caused the war?
Envy - You posted your victory...and it's normal to feel proud of something. However, don't jump to the conclusion that Vendetta is 'unbeatable' (even though the screech of it is louder than a harpy's voice.) Care to explain the real story, or is this it?
My opinion - This reminds me when ANBU posted their victory, and people complained it was won unfairly, but that was because of SparkCash. This seems more different, if they actually DID kill afk people. (I know that pain. I recently found out I was spawn killed in a war when I was in XIII a few days ago.)
You speak you're stories...but what does it prove? What does all this prove? A guild war victory, much like a KQ victory? I see this no different than the other threads, but it's now there's a conflict even far worse.
Angelos
09-08-2009, 08:50 PM
...
I understand how many of you feel, but I'd like to point this out. Tis is a game, and as some people have said...it is war. You do everything you can to win the war, no matter the sacrifice. In that, there IS no rules. Nothing you could say can probably justify that. Else I'll be ranting about 'SparkCash makes everything unfair' again. :/ From what I'm hearing on another side of the story, and reading these comments, this war was more or less won with unfairness, and low tactic maybe, however...it's a game, and it's technically a 'victory' in the game's eyes, but to the rest, it's not if they didn't put enough effort.
Vendetta - If you're high levels came in, that is true...the war would've been won because of that you have many high levels going to 5x - 8x. You say that they were killing the low levels...and you weren't there? If I had to say...that there should be a rematch. But again, who was the source that caused the war?
Envy - You posted your victory...and it's normal to feel proud of something. However, don't jump to the conclusion that Vendetta is 'unbeatable' (even though the screech of it is louder than a harpy's voice.) Care to explain the real story, or is this it?
My opinion - This reminds me when ANBU posted their victory, and people complained it was won unfairly, but that was because of SparkCash. This seems more different, if they actually DID kill afk people. (I know that pain. I recently found out I was spawn killed in a war when I was in XIII a few days ago.)
You speak you're stories...but what does it prove? What does all this prove? A guild war victory, much like a KQ victory? I see this no different than the other threads, but it's now there's a conflict even far worse.
Ftw =o
Lol It's 5am so I can't type a highly complicated and well thought out speech such as that..
But I can say Rawrr =o
Ans I know what you mean ^o^ <3
breaking_even
09-08-2009, 08:50 PM
This topic is lame.
fa1nt
09-08-2009, 09:02 PM
...
I understand how many of you feel, but I'd like to point this out. Tis is a game, and as some people have said...it is war. You do everything you can to win the war, no matter the sacrifice. In that, there IS no rules. Nothing you could say can probably justify that. Else I'll be ranting about 'SparkCash makes everything unfair' again. :/ From what I'm hearing on another side of the story, and reading these comments, this war was more or less won with unfairness, and low tactic maybe, however...it's a game, and it's technically a 'victory' in the game's eyes, but to the rest, it's not if they didn't put enough effort.
If you really believe that, then you must think that ALL guild wars in every game, and every other game are pointless.
According to your logic, if someone in Vendetta had a few million dollars, and decided to gift every single member a full crit set, cookies, charms, and unlimited 200,000 hp potions, and Vend went around waring and wining, it would be a total and fair win, right, since anything goes in war?..
avion210
09-08-2009, 09:41 PM
Look its very obvious Vendetta WOULD have won at full strength, I mean come on a few lvl 80's and lots of 70's? Were not saying we're better cause of one war, we did what we had to to win, btw for all who didn't know, they re-warred us after this victory on our part, just to show us or something, but I logged off and as our guild master said, we're just going to let you win, after all its just a game, we wanted no hard feelings.
BTW: You warred us, you came prepared so we did what we had to outnumbered and outmatched.
thevoid
09-08-2009, 09:49 PM
icetra wins ^^
icetra
09-08-2009, 10:02 PM
If you really believe that, then you must think that ALL guild wars in every game, and every other game are pointless.
According to your logic, if someone in Vendetta had a few million dollars, and decided to gift every single member a full crit set, cookies, charms, and unlimited 200,000 hp potions, and Vend went around waring and wining, it would be a total and fair win, right, since anything goes in war?..
That, my friend, is the opinion of many souls out there. I HAVE a different opinion on how a war should be conducted. Sorry that I didn't make myself clear...
But still. It is, after all, a game. If you cry, what is it about? A few pixels face rolling down to the ground with the same expression? If you're sad, or just angry? A game is a game...it'll be the same thing. I want a war to be fair, but from alot of people are going to say, war is war, and there is no rules for it...
Who said I thought they were pointless? Maybe they are...but then again, I at least attend them to hopefully have a little fun. And it usually turns into that.
*cough* According to your words...no. It would be an UNFAIR fight, because my opinion is getting in the way. But I can say this again.
There is no point in crying over pixels.
Edit: First of all, explain why I would think 'Wars are pointless'? Because if I really meant it, I would've just said it.
@avion: Just to say this. When you see these kind of threads...the tone of it can be heard clearly if not fallen over death ears.
ijoke
09-08-2009, 10:05 PM
I seriously can't believe anyone is bragging about a guild war. I don't even participate in a guild war, there is too much lag in Elderine, and after the 1 hour wasted slashing away at the other guild, even if you completely murder them, all it leads to is hurt feelings and accusations. There are too many variables in a guild war, such as vendor killing, spawning the lower levels, and there is no guarentee that both guilds are fully prepared.
I would like to see OutSpark create a more organized form of a "guild war" where both guilds can get a party ready, go to a secluded map (smaller than a normal sized map), and have a 5 on 5 there. That way both guilds can pick their 5 best people, the low levels who want nothing to do with a guild war can continue doing whatever they want, leading to more accurate results.
They could also make it so both guilds would have to agree to the war, so there are no excuses for not being ready. Then OS could make a ranking system to show who has won the most of these guild wars for that week.
Obviously this is just a rough idea I made up off the top of my head, but until something closer to this is done, guild wars remain utterly pointless.
cctjad4
09-08-2009, 10:10 PM
i wish people could just be nice for once. No need to insult and what not. People need to learn to be a bit more compassionate towards others.
as for killing ppl afk, that speaks volumes in itself. I know many that do it and i dont approve. Will that make it stop? not likely.
No point asking the world to be fair, otherwise i'd be enjoying the days i have left outside and id be healthy. I guess it would be the same when referring to a game.
that's right. don't ask me to be fair >__>
icetra
09-08-2009, 10:10 PM
Actually. That's a good idea...but then again, doesn't that sound almost like FBZ?
melontg
09-08-2009, 10:12 PM
^ brilliancy speaks brilliantly :o
ijoke
09-08-2009, 10:21 PM
Actually. That's a good idea...but then again, doesn't that sound almost like FBZ?
FBZ is unorganized though. It's just a major free for all, with once again, nothing to show for it.
^ brilliancy speaks brilliantly :o
Thanks xD. I'm pretty tired so I'm amazed people don't realize I'm just facepalming the keyboard ;o
cctjad4
09-08-2009, 10:23 PM
i think AChickenTender would've won...
Icetra would've won as well
ijoke
09-08-2009, 10:28 PM
Ooh AChickenTender, haven't talked to him since Legel stole him from Cypion =[.
icetra
09-08-2009, 10:30 PM
You make a good point. :/
Oh yeah...Chicken was from Cypion.
>.o Haha. He's in Legel's grasp now. >:3
ijoke
09-08-2009, 10:36 PM
You make a good point. :/
Oh yeah...Chicken was from Cypion.
>.o Haha. He's in Legel's grasp now. >:3
I've thought about messing around on Legel and possibly making a character and lvling him up some, but with school coming up I'm going to have to focus on Cypion even more =\.
icetra
09-08-2009, 10:38 PM
>.o Yeah. It's getting harder now for me to reach 60 because of school.
If only there was one more month for Summer Break...
ijoke
09-08-2009, 10:43 PM
Lol I've stopped even thinking about getting to lvl 60 until possibly next summer or Winter Break. My playing time will be so drastically reduced...
irishscorpion
09-08-2009, 10:54 PM
*rolls eyes*
This yet another thread of "haha look at us".
PvP/Guild wars is a joke in this game. Winning one is like...........ummm okay...whooo...I think...?
To Envy: Be proud you accomplished nothing.
To Vendetta: Stop crying. Here's a lollipop.....
icetra
09-08-2009, 10:57 PM
Lol I've stopped even thinking about getting to lvl 60 until possibly next summer or Winter Break. My playing time will be so drastically reduced...
Despite school, I still stay up late, so it's like I'm playing at the same time that I usually do. ><;
But, it cuts my sleeping time. :/
cctjad4
09-08-2009, 10:57 PM
i wish there was a reward for winning a guild war. they should have like "guild owned grinding regions" or something of that nature implemented. then there will be more drama xD
ijoke
09-08-2009, 10:57 PM
Well, I like some forms of PvP [:< just not guild wars.
Yeah, sleeping is nice. The reason I can't play is a lot longer and I don't really feel like narrating it on the forums xD.
breaking_even
09-08-2009, 11:04 PM
*rolls eyes*
This yet another thread of "haha look at us".
PvP/Guild wars is a joke in this game. Winning one is like...........ummm okay...whooo...I think...?
To Envy: Be proud you accomplished nothing.
To Vendetta: Stop crying. Here's a lollipop.....
You always find a way to run your mouth, I'm sure Envy thinks "Be proud, you fail." and we think "Stop talking, your word means nothing."
I hardly do forums, so I'm done. C-ya in 2 months.
irishscorpion
09-08-2009, 11:20 PM
You always find a way to run your mouth, I'm sure Envy thinks "Be proud, you fail." and we think "Stop talking, your word means nothing."
I hardly do forums, so I'm done. C-ya in 2 months.
Your a human skidmark on the underwear of life. Your words mean nothing to me.
So I guess we are even then.
cctjad4
09-08-2009, 11:25 PM
wow that was the most epic fail comeback lol
xmyst
09-08-2009, 11:26 PM
Personally its hard to judge a guild war and how fair it was. Imo, "winning" is when its a planned guild war and both teams fight fairly. If people team 1 person or shop kill to get ahead in points, then warp to places that nobody can find, thats low. But if both teams fought fairly then grats.
From the sounds of Sauer ... it wasn't fair. If you have a vid to PROVE it was fair i will congratulate you.
Don't have a vid?
sorry i'm with Sauer. I trust her judgement. Maybe make it fair?
icetra
09-08-2009, 11:31 PM
To the game it was a win.
But for others, it was unfair.
:/
irishscorpion
09-08-2009, 11:35 PM
Supposedly from bystanders in Eldy..the war WAS fair for the first half. There was fighting between comparative lvls and Envy was killing them. Wether charms or extenders were used has no point, as they are fair game....lame to waste money on a war imo..but fair game lol.
Now I dont agree on warping and scrolling and using peggys to flee.
Or using the excuse that...oh the second half we decided to help academy members and go questing....psh...you were winning..you wanted to keep it that way..so you made yourself scarce.
You start a war, you finish it.
And I was always raised that if you go into a fight and know you are going to lose...you don't run...you stand up to your enemy and get knocked on yer booty. Running doesn't grant you any respect. It's standing up and not backing down that gives you respect.
It's farfetched that people would play guild wars with honor and dignity, but it's a thought.
Don't they always say its the thought that counts..........? :rolleyes:
breaking_even
09-09-2009, 12:39 AM
http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/6311/screenshot230.jpg
... I'm just saying ...
irishscorpion
09-09-2009, 03:20 AM
what exactly are you saying?
by continuing to post, you are only prolonging this argument.
stop posting and declare a rematch for crying out loud...if in fact, that would make you feel better.
sandoval4444
09-09-2009, 07:47 AM
Wow u serious? people still checking this post come on seriously just forget about it
its only a lose and a win, after all Twix showed the picture there how they owned us after so everyone just forget about it geez, i might just stay without any guild now..gosh
Bueawa
09-09-2009, 09:18 AM
Well, I've read the whole Thread and almost every singe post. Lemme just put some of my opinion's on this :)
Envy(Infinity)-First off, from all I've heard, your guild has been unfair in this war. Well, Victory is won by the gratest, not by the most cowardly peoples. Why would you post something so un-neccesary, when you beat Vendetta unfair. That's not an accomplishment. Greaat!... you killed lower lvls than you, are you proud? Are you proud of your Victory? Well, in your case Victory is being coward,un-fair and not righteous. I certainly hope that you're not proud. Vendetta are mainly Very High Lvl People. So I'm sure it would not be a fair fight between the guilds if you were going to fight at max. By max, I mean at the time where both guilds have most active member, at the same time. Though, the time differences would make this hard.
Vendetta-Well, I hope the higher lvls didn't just stand there and watched guildies getting killed. Well, I'm proud of your second War Victory. I haven't seen any complaints from second war. Well, Koju is 8x atm, so it would be unfair for Envy, but Koju's the GuildMaster of Vendetta afterall ;). I'm sure the GM's can still hold unto their words ;) Vendetta is Pwnage, and will certainly be.
I just have to say that I'm neutral when I post this. Even though I'm from Vendetta. I wasn't there, and I don't know what happened, so therefore I just posted my thougths on this. Judging from what I've read, Envy brought bad atmosphere into this thread and into game too. Well I won't accuse the whole guild. So the person who did this know who they are.
Icetra, you've gained alot of respect from me. Seriously, every single post you have made in thread is so meaningful, and well thought. If all were just as intelligent as you. You didn't just impress me in this thread, but everywhere else too. And from what I've heard you're very kind to people too... Rzpect ;)
With that being said, I'm Comming Back To Legeeeeeel;)
v4por
09-09-2009, 03:20 PM
ohhh stop my sides r hurting guys!
sandoval4444
09-09-2009, 03:50 PM
hey its xAngealx lol, i remember u ^^ nice to have u back, and also u guys should just forget about this post i made gosh, lolz, i dont even care about it anymore come on ^^
i might just as well leave the guild and problem solved?:3 oki doki
cctjad4
09-10-2009, 03:23 AM
well both guilds are tied at one win a piece....best out of 3? lol xD
fa1nt
09-10-2009, 06:12 AM
Why have so many people so far said "Charms are fair game" and in the same paragraph, say "Kujo and others are level 70+, so its not fair"
charmed and extended level 65 would do quite well vs a 75 :/
kl1nzuka
09-10-2009, 08:42 AM
The better one won now stop flaming
jyden.
09-10-2009, 12:52 PM
Seeing as I was unable to post the day this occurred, I decided to do it now that I had the time. To begin, I must admit, this thread has deeply offended me not just based on Vendetta's so called "loss," but because this is unacceptable as a thread. This hardly condones friendly guild war, now does it? While this may sound an attack on Envy, I assure you, I was focused merely on the topic itself, and the absurdity of the pretense.
Reading through the posts, many from friends for and against Vendetta, I must say, this is ridiculous. Yes, you won, Envy. Congratulations. But what do you gain from posting this thread? Attention? Ah, yes. Attention… for being completely rude and horribly arrogant as to attack Vendetta in a forum by creating a thread about their loss. It’s one thing to say “Hey, guess what, we won! Yay!” And “HA, Vendetta lost, hahahahahahaha!” What kind of attention is that? Do you like having that kind of reputation? Yes, Vendetta has a reputation of being “strong,” “sparkcashed up the wazzoo (btw, love that phrase Xandon),” etc., but really, no one I know in the guild would go as low as to post a thread saying that the “unbeatable” have failed. What kind of person does that make you? Are you sure you want to be that person? And to those of you in Envy, do you want to be in a guild that has slandered, and quite literally cheated their way to win? ((And don’t even think about trying to bring Twix’s post up as an argument. His post is simply in reply to what has already been said. He did not engage or begin this topic, Infinity did, and he was simply supporting any and all arguments against Vendetta.))
And to address some comments on their “strategy” of attacking and then porting/moving being “smart play,” I must say that it sounds more of cowardice than actual intelligence. Strategy involves actual play, actual and concise thought and concern; deliberate moves… not simply attack--- AH gotta run before he kills me! If that was indeed Envy’s “strategy,” then I call them cowards. If you war Vendetta, you fight and _stay_ for the fight regardless of win or loss. You can’t choose to fight one minute, change your mind, and then fight again only when it benefits you. What kind of leadership and example is that to those new to Fiesta?
I’d also like to add that you made a mockery of your win.
So, yes, Envy, congratulations for your win and making a fool out of yourselves on this thread. It was well deserved.
<3
avion210
09-10-2009, 03:32 PM
Seeing as I was unable to post the day this occurred, I decided to do it now that I had the time. To begin, I must admit, this thread has deeply offended me not just based on Vendetta's so called "loss," but because this is unacceptable as a thread. This hardly condones friendly guild war, now does it? While this may sound an attack on Envy, I assure you, I was focused merely on the topic itself, and the absurdity of the pretense.
Reading through the posts, many from friends for and against Vendetta, I must say, this is ridiculous. Yes, you won, Envy. Congratulations. But what do you gain from posting this thread? Attention? Ah, yes. Attention… for being completely rude and horribly arrogant as to attack Vendetta in a forum by creating a thread about their loss. It’s one thing to say “Hey, guess what, we won! Yay!” And “HA, Vendetta lost, hahahahahahaha!” What kind of attention is that? Do you like having that kind of reputation? Yes, Vendetta has a reputation of being “strong,” “sparkcashed up the wazzoo (btw, love that phrase Xandon),” etc., but really, no one I know in the guild would go as low as to post a thread saying that the “unbeatable” have failed. What kind of person does that make you? Are you sure you want to be that person? And to those of you in Envy, do you want to be in a guild that has slandered, and quite literally cheated their way to win? ((And don’t even think about trying to bring Twix’s post up as an argument. His post is simply in reply to what has already been said. He did not engage or begin this topic, Infinity did, and he was simply supporting any and all arguments against Vendetta.))
And to address some comments on their “strategy” of attacking and then porting/moving being “smart play,” I must say that it sounds more of cowardice than actual intelligence. Strategy involves actual play, actual and concise thought and concern; deliberate moves… not simply attack--- AH gotta run before he kills me! If that was indeed Envy’s “strategy,” then I call them cowards. If you war Vendetta, you fight and _stay_ for the fight regardless of win or loss. You can’t choose to fight one minute, change your mind, and then fight again only when it benefits you. What kind of leadership and example is that to those new to Fiesta?
I’d also like to add that you made a mockery of your win.
So, yes, Envy, congratulations for your win and making a fool out of yourselves on this thread. It was well deserved.
<3
First of all, I don't think its fair you judge an entire guild by the post of 1 member.
Second, let's say your a lvl 20 archer, and suddenly a lvl 40 fighter tracks you down and without notice attacks you, wouldn't the archer run? (and not just because he was kiting) I think its funny how people are suddenly cowardly when they try to escape the forces of a larger stronger army, is that suddenly what warring has become?
jyden.
09-10-2009, 03:41 PM
First of all, I got reports from multiple people saying many people in Envy wanted this thread posted.
Second, I'm sorry, but so they can have multiple people attack Vendetta's lower levels, but when higher levels come out to war, everyone disappears? That makes no sense whatsoever. You don't attack and run multiple times only when it benefits you.
jyden.
09-10-2009, 03:43 PM
If you intend to fight, stay for the fight.
avion210
09-10-2009, 03:46 PM
If you intend to fight, stay for the fight.
How is what vendetta did any differant? Their lvl 6X's attacked our 50's and their 7X's attacked our 60's? We killed whoever we possible could, and left because if we didn't I'm sure we would've never been able to leave (Not going to say why cause of possible blacklist)
sandoval4444
09-10-2009, 03:50 PM
-.- u guys still fighting........gosh come on, its only a war, its not like its ur life or anything and btw jyden im not a guy. ty lol, and stop fighting =/
sandoval4444
09-10-2009, 03:52 PM
How is what vendetta did any differant? Their lvl 6X's attacked our 50's and their 7X's attacked our 60's? We killed whoever we possible could, and left because if we didn't I'm sure we would've never been able to leave (Not going to say why cause of possible blacklist)
what u said i agree, its totally right
jyden.
09-10-2009, 03:54 PM
Uh... >.> when did I call you a guy?
jyden.
09-10-2009, 04:00 PM
And Vendetta did not spawn kill, afk kill, or port when getting attacked. That's the difference.
sandoval4444
09-10-2009, 04:02 PM
And Vendetta did not spawn kill, afk kill, or port when getting attacked. That's the difference.
OK NOW THATS FUNNY HAHAHAHHAHAHA, IF! you had seen i attked about 15 people of vendetta and when i was about to kill them they ported LOL, ur funny ^^, and stop fighting =/
jyden.
09-10-2009, 04:03 PM
Ignoring that post, where did I call you a guy? XDDDD
avion210
09-10-2009, 04:03 PM
And Vendetta did not spawn kill, afk kill, or port when getting attacked. That's the difference.
1. We did not give them the chance
2. We kicked afk members so they wouldn't
3. Yes they did.
jyden.
09-10-2009, 04:11 PM
If I did call you male, I apologize. I don't see where I did, however.
sandoval4444
09-10-2009, 04:20 PM
Infinity did, and he was simply supporting any and all arguments against Vendetta.))
the sentence should be "Infinity did, and "SHE" was simply supporting any and all arguments agains Vendetta.))"
there u go ^^
jyden.
09-10-2009, 04:26 PM
He as in Twix, actually.
sandoval4444
09-10-2009, 04:27 PM
oh psssht lolz okay ^^ my mistake o_o, sowy!
jyden.
09-10-2009, 04:27 PM
And what I mean by supporting any and all arguments was that he was supporting comments any Vendetta members made with a screenshot ^^
jyden.
09-10-2009, 04:28 PM
Np, hun :3
sandoval4444
09-10-2009, 04:38 PM
so does that mean he was being mean? xD sorry i dont understand sometimes -.-"
icetra
09-10-2009, 05:33 PM
OK NOW THATS FUNNY HAHAHAHHAHAHA, IF! you had seen i attked about 15 people of vendetta and when i was about to kill them they ported LOL, ur funny ^^, and stop fighting =/
Explain yourself.
Tis is when the first war was enacted, or the second war?
alberto777
09-10-2009, 05:40 PM
Explain yourself.
Tis is when the first war was enacted, or the second war?
siggy fails D:
lvl 6x now
icetra
09-10-2009, 05:41 PM
Who is you?! o_o
And I know. It'll be changed real soon~
sandoval4444
09-10-2009, 05:47 PM
ah it was in the first war
icetra
09-10-2009, 05:50 PM
Oh, then I got nothing to say. xD
sandoval4444
09-10-2009, 05:54 PM
Oh, then I got nothing to say. xD
^.^ okay lol u gotta teach me how to make those small letters :3
icetra
09-10-2009, 08:45 PM
^.^ okay lol u gotta teach me how to make those small letters :3
You can change the size of your text by clicking 'Sizes', it's right next to 'Fonts'.
Since this is the smallest, you would want '1'.
saueracker
09-11-2009, 10:26 AM
uhm why the heck is this thread still alive, i think this thread needs to be deleted because its only gonna get more flames. I don't see how it wasn't deleted earlier.
achickentender
09-11-2009, 10:58 AM
*bump.....
sandoval4444
09-11-2009, 04:51 PM
yesh ^^ i kno right...hehe
hayyela
09-11-2009, 06:11 PM
e.e; It's still here?
This should be closed..>.>
kungfuhobo
09-11-2009, 06:27 PM
Neverr
moar bumps
dustyj
09-12-2009, 10:25 AM
All I have to say is wow.. this thread is hilarious.
To all those saying that its "cowardly" to run and fight and in the same sentence say "its ok to be cookied up, its part of the game" just amaze me, first off.
Secondly, lets not all get so po'd over one lil post. I mean, for all those in Vendetta saying that Envy is "wrong" for posting a thread about Envy's Victory over Vendetta need to grow up. It's something Envy should be proud of, not many guilds can say they have beat Vendetta (no matter how they've tried) and I see plenty guilds posting KQaccomplishments with only 5 ppl in Honeying and stuff like that. Why? For the same reason we ar getting hated on bye (mostly) Vendetta people.. attention. All it is is displaying accomplishments, dont get so worked up about it.
And thirdly, I love you all. XD
- Tauro
icetra
09-12-2009, 10:30 AM
Why would you even bother bringing up a thread that needs to die from Death's touch?
You did read the entire thread, right? It seems that Envy WAS more likely in the wrong, but in another side, they weren't. It was already known that if Vendetta's stronger side were to come, then Envy would have no chance of winning. AFK killing and town warping is frowned upon, but there is NO rules in Guild Wars. (As stated by many people, not my opinion.) But again, it is frowned upon.
Those other threads didn't have the tone of what this other thread is singing.
I still stand neutral, for I am going by these stories, not my own. I was never in the war, or knew of it's existence, therefore I refuse to point fingers at anyone.
dustyj
09-12-2009, 10:38 AM
Why would you even bother bringing up a thread that needs to die from Death's touch?
You did read the entire thread, right? It seems that Envy WAS more likely in the wrong, but in another side, they weren't. It was already known that if Vendetta's stronger side were to come, then Envy would have no chance of winning. AFK killing and town warping is frowned upon, but there is NO rules in Guild Wars. (As stated by many people, not my opinion.) But again, it is frowned upon.
Those other threads didn't have the tone of what this other thread is singing.
I still stand neutral, for I am going by these stories, not my own. I was never in the war, or knew of it's existence, therefore I refuse to point fingers at anyone.
But why let such a ht topic die without putting my two cents in? You puts yours all over it (yea I did read every single post).
And I really dont understand. Envy was more in the wrong, but then they were not more in the wrong? Right and wrong is a matter of opinion. Unless its violating the ToS, I dont see anything as wrong. So no, I dont agree with most other people as you so eloquently put it.
Like I said before, you win a war however it takes. Their lowbies could have easily ran from higher members just as ours did wit ya'lls. If they chose to stay and fight and lose points becuse of it, sobe it. Not Envy's fault.
- Tauro
icetra
09-12-2009, 10:46 AM
Good point, a very good one. But...well, this kind of stuff provokes people.
You saw the posts then, even if Vendetta were the ones that they said were wrong, again...AFK killing AND town porting, is frowned upon in a war. Anything goes, but it's still sad. A matter of opinion, yes, but if that's the case, I'll be on Vendetta's side, but I choose to be in a neutral party, and throw in my opinions.
No, it is not violating the TOS. They are free to post this kind of thread as long they prevent themselves from not breaking any of those rules. But...you saw the results of what happened.
Guess you didn't see 'AFK killing', huh? I doubt they just came in and attacked, I'm sure they didn't want to be involved the war.
But, it's over with. This should never be brought up again. Envy lost to Vendetta in the second war, so that should be a truce. No point keeping bitter memories over something preposterous such as this. Things should be resolved, so I say this...
<3 you all.
kouturoq
09-12-2009, 04:15 PM
Another war, yet again proving how pro you are at running and hiding ._.
Not gonna brag again are ya?
alberto777
09-12-2009, 04:53 PM
ok, this time i saw everything!, And Someone Lock This Threat Plz, Probably Vendetta Going To Fight Over A Game Again.
Vendetta- They Go 6v1, 7v2, 8v2, Or More...I Was At Collapsed Prision When I Saw This, Also Uruga.
Envy - I Understand Why Run, If Its Unfair. I Would Have Run Too.
And Wow, Congrats Envy Again. They Survived The Unfairness Of 6v1,etc...
Good Job.
So Just Stop Fighting,,, And Make Peace For Gods Sake...
Angelos
09-12-2009, 04:56 PM
w/e =______=
icetra
09-12-2009, 05:00 PM
What the fu --
[Censored 1st message]
My friend. Merely don't speak, then the thread can die. Let Death reap it's soul already. >.>;
Also. I highly doubt they were 'angry' over a game. However, online or not, unfairness ills me to the very end.
Run like a dog, or use your honor ~ Darkra
kouturoq
09-12-2009, 05:21 PM
ok, this time i saw everything!, And Someone Lock This Threat Plz, Probably Vendetta Going To Fight Over A Game Again.
Vendetta- They Go 6v1, 7v2, 8v2, Or More...I Was At Collapsed Prision When I Saw This, Also Uruga.
Envy - I Understand Why Run, If Its Unfair. I Would Have Run Too.
And Wow, Congrats Envy Again. They Survived The Unfairness Of 6v1,etc...
Good Job.
So Just Stop Fighting,,, And Make Peace For Gods Sake...
Lol.
K, lemme just use this as an example.
5 lvl 10s vs 1 lvl 25/30
Unfair? lol.
If I was the higher lvl I'd stand and fight like a man, rather than run around on a mount, with all of my 4x-5x guildies hiding in places like FoM, or on Academy members to follow the opposing guild.
BTW In case you didn't know, it is called GUILD war, not one man VS another man.
And you people say let the thread die, stop posting... lol, this thread is so entertaining. Why must you deprive me of entertainment~~~ Q.Q
alberto777
09-12-2009, 05:36 PM
Lol.
K, lemme just use this as an example.
5 lvl 10s vs 1 lvl 25/30
Unfair? lol.
If I was the higher lvl I'd stand and fight like a man, rather than run around on a mount, with all of my 4x-5x guildies hiding in places like FoM, or on Academy members to follow the opposing guild.
BTW In case you didn't know, it is called GUILD war, not one man VS another man.
And you people say let the thread die, stop posting... lol, this thread is so entertaining. Why must you deprive me of entertainment~~~ Q.Q
lol.... calm down dude, its a game, not life
kouturoq
09-12-2009, 05:39 PM
lol.... calm down dude, its a game, not life
1. I do not have male genetalia.
2. I know it's a game :0 but if it's just a small wittle game to you lot, wonder why you start crap, yet you can't take facts or examples.
3. lol That saying is so old.
4. Maybe you missed the part where I said I find this amusing? That I think this is entertaining? :rolleyes:
5. Maybe you should realise it's a game and not real life. :0
icetra
09-12-2009, 05:45 PM
Ok Kouki. You got me, I can't resist posting when something irks me. ;/
Now...Shush. Or I'll hunt ya down in yo dreams!
Just to point this out: You're posting too. :x
kouturoq
09-12-2009, 05:56 PM
Ok Kouki. You got me, I can't resist posting when something irks me. ;/
Now...Shush. Or I'll hunt ya down in yo dreams!
Just to point this out: You're posting too. :x
D; AMG NIGHTMARES. Dx Don't keel me in my dreams pl0x. ;3;
Just to point this out: Never said anything against me posting, or everyone else posting, other than the fact that I find all this entertaining.
icetra
09-12-2009, 06:00 PM
You know I couldn't harm a friend. >.< However, you will suffer from horrible nightmares and creepy crawlies. o3o
AND just to point this out: I know. This thread is awakening my RP mood, therefore I'm gaining a benefit.
alberto777
09-12-2009, 07:37 PM
ok.. seems calm now :D
fa1nt
09-12-2009, 11:11 PM
ok, this time i saw everything!, And Someone Lock This Threat Plz, Probably Vendetta Going To Fight Over A Game Again.
Vendetta- They Go 6v1, 7v2, 8v2, Or More...I Was At Collapsed Prision When I Saw This, Also Uruga.
Envy - I Understand Why Run, If Its Unfair. I Would Have Run Too.
And Wow, Congrats Envy Again. They Survived The Unfairness Of 6v1,etc...
Good Job.
So Just Stop Fighting,,, And Make Peace For Gods Sake...
My level 52 mage was fighting Kawaii, a level 69 cleric with 3500 hp, and then another level 50 mage came and helped. My magic blast with a +9 wand did 400 damage, and Kawaii's trip did 1400 to me.
The fact that 3 more people came from gob camp to help, and that kawaii still didn't die, shows how fair a 15 level difference is in fighting.
The ENTIRE GUILD WAR, all I saw was James_Owned_Mage and Kawaii.
Simply put, it is much harder to get points on Envy, as they have so few members to kill. At the same time however, we had 27 members online, many under 50 (like 10) and over 20 under 60, who James can magic blast over 2000 damage (1 hit) and rack up some easy points.
Since my mage is only level 52, me and a friend looked around roumen, eld, pvp areas, abyss, gob camp, cp, ect. Never did i spot a envy member under 60, until the GW was over, and 5 were in eld :(
alberto777
09-13-2009, 12:42 AM
400 posts woot :D
dustyj
09-13-2009, 06:48 AM
My level 52 mage was fighting Kawaii, a level 69 cleric with 3500 hp, and then another level 50 mage came and helped. My magic blast with a +9 wand did 400 damage, and Kawaii's trip did 1400 to me.
The fact that 3 more people came from gob camp to help, and that kawaii still didn't die, shows how fair a 15 level difference is in fighting.
The ENTIRE GUILD WAR, all I saw was James_Owned_Mage and Kawaii.
Simply put, it is much harder to get points on Envy, as they have so few members to kill. At the same time however, we had 27 members online, many under 50 (like 10) and over 20 under 60, who James can magic blast over 2000 damage (1 hit) and rack up some easy points.
Since my mage is only level 52, me and a friend looked around roumen, eld, pvp areas, abyss, gob camp, cp, ect. Never did i spot a envy member under 60, until the GW was over, and 5 were in eld :(
Whats your point?
fa1nt
09-13-2009, 07:05 AM
Whats your point?
point is quite clear, l2read
dustyj
09-13-2009, 07:16 AM
point is quite clear, l2read
Obviously not if I'm asking. Please try again without the long winded whine/rant. :)
fa1nt
09-13-2009, 07:45 AM
no ty, dont take request from nobodies
dustyj
09-13-2009, 08:50 AM
no ty, dont take request from nobodies
That just makes you sound childish, but maybe it's because you're a child. So I'll leave it at that.
saueracker
09-13-2009, 11:00 AM
His point is that there were only 2 people from envy online and they probably requested their guildies to sign off till war ended. Seeing so many logged on within minuted of war ending. Once they got their kills they ran and ported. So they can play unfair and if Vendetta teams them we are the big bad guys? Guild wars were meant for fun. Why cant they stay clean and positive? Porting and hiding after you get kills on lowbies isnt what i call clean.
Why cant we just let this thread die like it should? its only causing more drama.
alberto777
09-13-2009, 11:26 AM
His point is that there were only 2 people from envy online and they probably requested their guildies to sign off till war ended. Seeing so many logged on within minuted of war ending. Once they got their kills they ran and ported. So they can play unfair and if Vendetta teams them we are the big bad guys? Guild wars were meant for fun. Why cant they stay clean and positive? Porting and hiding after you get kills on lowbies isnt what i call clean.
Why cant we just let this thread die like it should? its only causing more drama.
Then why vendetta keeps waring them? they want to loose more or something? i dont get it.
sandoval4444
09-13-2009, 02:00 PM
His point is that there were only 2 people from Vendetta online and they probably requested their guildies to sign off till war ended. Seeing so many logged on within minuted of war ending. Once they got their kills they ran and ported. So they can play unfair and if Envy teams them we are the big bad guys? Guild wars were meant for fun. Why cant they stay clean and positive? Porting and hiding after you get kills on lowbies isnt what i call clean.
Why cant I just let this thread die like it should? Im only causing more drama.
wow your only cousing more trouble, just forget about it geez...-.-
achickentender
09-13-2009, 03:08 PM
I think you caused this infin..if you want your thread closed then do something about it(contact an important person) and gawd du eny of yuo no how to spell>.<
Watchimacallit
09-13-2009, 05:07 PM
Oh yes, Envy won, but how? I think the public should know truthfully. First not only were they to scared to fight in the open, but they couldnt do it on there own. They had to get help from outside forces, in the Abyss. They decided to attack people while they were fighting monsters, get others to do the dirty work for them, spam killing, and vendor killing. This is how they won. After they got enough points they all gathered in one area, where they could not be attacked. Yes this is how they did it. Yes that is the only way, anyone says anything else and they are lieing directly to your face. Kinda Like James and Kawaii did to everyone in Abyss.
saueracker
09-13-2009, 05:09 PM
wow your only cousing more trouble, just forget about it geez...-.-
I was only elaborating. because someone was wondering. For those who didnt seem to understand what people were saying.
I never stated it was my opinion.
the last part was of my opinion.
Edit: Also, why did you change things while you quoted me?o.O.
hayyela
09-13-2009, 08:13 PM
Holy, this is madness. All of you who are STILL squabbling over something as simple-minded as a guild war, should be ashamed of yourselves. Why don't you concentrate on leveling and playing the game , instead of lurking the forums hoping to cause more drama. :/
And Chicken, I agree...you all need to learn how to spell first anyhow.
icetra
09-13-2009, 08:17 PM
...
1. It's my job to tell people how to spell. However, this is Fiesta. If that was the case, I'd tell ALL of you to spell on the forums and in game. (/sarcasm)
2. When you're on the forums, you will expect drama, and to be honest, I hate leveling. The forums is basically the best part, and it's where I met all my friends. Remember, leveling up isn't the main focus point of Fiesta~ (At least, in my opinion. Besides, you're still a nublet, Val. c: )
3. Please, of all that is holy in the world. Let. This. Die.
hayyela
09-13-2009, 09:28 PM
I did say leveling and playing .-.
ok..ok..I'm done >.<;
fa1nt
09-13-2009, 09:30 PM
whats the point in leveling if you dont want to war/pvp?
dustyj
09-13-2009, 10:32 PM
His point is that there were only 2 people from envy online and they probably requested their guildies to sign off till war ended. Seeing so many logged on within minuted of war ending. Once they got their kills they ran and ported. So they can play unfair and if Vendetta teams them we are the big bad guys? Guild wars were meant for fun. Why cant they stay clean and positive? Porting and hiding after you get kills on lowbies isnt what i call clean.
Why cant we just let this thread die like it should? its only causing more drama.
First of all, I never called Vendetta big bad guys for killing lowbies in a WAR. Because, as I stated, all is fair in war as long as its under the ToS. And I'm sorry sauer, but mine and your definition of unfair seems to be different. And thats ok, because the term is relative. I guess, just dont war us if you don't want an "unfair" war. Nothing is clean in war. If you want some clean pvp, go to FBZ1 where it should be clean, or abyss. A war is just that... a war. (BTW, I've seen Vendetaa not keep it "clean" in those areas plenty)
Lastly, as far as letting this thread die, just because you and a few others say it should die, means it should? No, sorry I don't agree with that. If you dont like this thread, stay out of it. Or, do as someoen said and have it requested locked by the OP.
- Tauro
P.S. <3 you all
P.P.S. "Who do you think is the strongest guild on Legel?
I say Vendetta, since we haven't lost to a single guild yet "
I think this statement was proven false ( no matter how) and seems to have irked alot of Vendetta people is the real reason for all the fuss. But, this is just my 2c.
saueracker
09-13-2009, 11:55 PM
o.o i never said u did. that's why i dint say you did, the first part, as i said before, was what i understood from the previous post. The rest was of my opinion.
As Ive stated over and over, win or lose, i don't care, its how it is earned that irks me. I just don't like it when people play dirty, that's just me.
Cant the op just have this stupid thread closed already?This reminds me off the reason why i was always guild less.
maybe i should just quit entirely, drama like this is ridiculous.
jyden.
09-14-2009, 12:26 AM
Omg, Saue, if you quit, I'd die T.T
Okay, first of all, Tauro...
" 'I say Vendetta, since we haven't lost to a single guild yet
I think this statement was proven false ( no matter how) and seems to have irked alot of Vendetta people is the real reason for all the fuss. But, this is just my 2c.' "
-.- Really? really? Come on, how insulting is that? You think that the aforementioned comment is the real reason for this fuss? I think Saue and I, as many others have, made it perfectly clear that the real "fuss" is the WAY the war was won. Not the fact that Vendetta "lost."
Second of all, all is fair in war? Okay, fine. Then are you saying that the measures taken were honorable? Because they weren't. Afk killing, spawn killing, and attacking and porting are NOT honorable tactics. "Fair play" aside, come on.... you're going to be proud of the means you have taken to win?
Lastly, sheesh, I'd love this thread to disappear.... Infinity, take it down, if possible. You have more than a few complaints on this. If need be, I or someone else can take this to a the proper higher-ups.
icetra
09-14-2009, 12:34 AM
First of all, I never called Vendetta big bad guys for killing lowbies in a WAR. Because, as I stated, all is fair in war as long as its under the ToS. And I'm sorry sauer, but mine and your definition of unfair seems to be different. And thats ok, because the term is relative. I guess, just dont war us if you don't want an "unfair" war. Nothing is clean in war. If you want some clean pvp, go to FBZ1 where it should be clean, or abyss. A war is just that... a war. (BTW, I've seen Vendetaa not keep it "clean" in those areas plenty)
May I remind you that most of the time Envy has warred us, or has that departed from your mind? I'm guessing that it was, because you don't even mention the parts of how they warred us, and have done the same unfair tactics. 'Nothing is clean in a war'. Of course...however, I can say this a million times, and the idiotic human brain will never sync it in the mind. AFK killing and vendor killing is frowned upon. In war, there is no rules, but when you do certain things in said war, it gives you a bad reputation. Do realize that. In the future, explain the 'bad' of Vendetta AND Envy, so your facts can be more acceptable.
Explain how Vendetta wasn't 'clean'. Do entertain me, because it's not like we used all of our 'time' by running, AFK killing, porting, killing every single lowbie, AND vendor killing. If you truly think that...then in all honestly, you would be the first one, to amuse me out of pure idiocy.
Lastly, as far as letting this thread die, just because you and a few others say it should die, means it should? No, sorry I don't agree with that. If you dont like this thread, stay out of it. Or, do as someoen said and have it requested locked by the OP.
HA. Basically everyone on the thread agreed that it should die. You my friend, are probably the only one denying it. Even the OP has said to let it die, but you cannot follow that simple wish? Clearly she is new, and will get around asking the Outspark Staff to close it, but for now, lets do her a big favor, and be quiet. I've tried to restrain myself from posting any farther, but I guess I can't. What a hypocrite that I am?
If you don't agree with it, I pity you. If I was being an idiot, I would say those words aren't able to mask another side. But that's just me.
- Tauro
P.S. <3 you all
My God. You really do remind me of someone...
However, you're not annoying and/or impudent as him. Not calling you that, but...you just strangely remind me of him.
P.P.S. "Who do you think is the strongest guild on Legel?
I say Vendetta, since we haven't lost to a single guild yet "
I think this statement was proven false ( no matter how) and seems to have irked alot of Vendetta people is the real reason for all the fuss. But, this is just my 2c.
Let me explain this to you. They said Vendetta hasn't lost to a war yet, because it was the truth, but now we lost. TECHNICALLY it was a win by the game's eyes, but to many, it was unfair. No one in Vendetta isn't going to trigger off all because of that little 'statement', else they'll be truly childish. That is NOT the real reason of this fuss, but many people here just hate how dirty tactics are used, despite the fact it is allowed. (Again, frowned upon. I don't know why any guild would want to build a bad reputation.)
However, I do not blame you for making that assumption, so I'll refrain myself to complain about...'that'.
My replies in bold.
Sau, don't quit because of this display of ignorance. Don't leave the friends you made, the ones you could think of as 'family' in game, the ones that have always cared and talked about you. This may be an online game, but people can still care about you as if they knew you.
At least, if you left for this poor reason, you would sadden my heart. This game needs pure hearted people, and if more leaves, it'll only show that the Fiesta community will keep crumbling. Drama like this is NOTHING compared to a certain MMORPG game...there's drama at every waking moment, it's as if people are already used to it.
I'll give you this much, Tauro. Because of all this drama, and adding on to this, you've awakened my Roleplaying side. For that, I thank you~ (Off-Topic.)
Edit: Oh, and Infinity...despite of everything that has happened, I still <3 you. :P
To Val: What about playing and interacting?
consensus
09-14-2009, 12:50 AM
I has no respect for Envy. D':
Bueawa
09-14-2009, 02:54 AM
Even MOOOREE DRAMA-JAMA! xD
So basicly, what this guy is saying, is that MY post was the reason to all this Fuss or w/e. I highly doubt so. That thread was made so people could say their own opinions on who they think is the strongest guild. It was an open thread. It wasn't like I knocked those words into everyone's mind. It's your own problem if you take it as an insult. Piggy, the real reason that this thread is living on, is that Envy members and people who are protecting them keep posting on this thread, to keep the drama on-going. The thing is that, well, how I see this, is that Envy members are SOO proud of their ONE victory, that they can't bare seeing this thread die. Even the OP who thinks this thread should die, have done nothing to stop this. Atleast she could close this thread, and keep it from on-going drama -.-.
dustyj
09-14-2009, 06:54 AM
"My God. You really do remind me of someone...
However, you're not annoying and/or impudent as him. Not calling you that, but...you just strangely remind me of him."
And you remind me of someone also Icetra. Someone on a very high horse who will make a very hard fall some day. Hope you learn and heal from it when that time comes.
And no Angeal, thats not what I'm saying at all. I dont think it was your *post* that was the reason for all this fuss. Only the confidence / big head (fine line) that was all over that post, and I feel many Vendetta members felt the same... untouchable, unlosable. It seem's that wasn't so.
"The thing is that, well, how I see this, is that Envy members are SOO proud of their ONE victory, that they can't bare seeing this thread die. "
Now what I find great about this lil statement, is tha if you go and count the number of Vendetta posts in this threadand then the number of Envy posts, I bet its more Vendetta. So, hows that make any sense?
- Tauro
sandoval4444
09-14-2009, 07:11 AM
I think you caused this infin..if you want your thread closed then do something about it(contact an important person) and gawd du eny of yuo no how to spell>.<
aaaaah yush T_T how to contact someone, GM CLOSE THREAD AND DELETE PLEASE, EVERYONE WAITING FOR IT...
ugh..T-T lets see if i can find something...
kij024
09-14-2009, 07:13 AM
Ohaii Vendetta, and Envy!
Too lazy to read pages 1 to 14 ._.
We should schedule for another war.
An organized war with specific time, and location.
sandoval4444
09-14-2009, 07:20 AM
"My God. You really do remind me of someone...
However, you're not annoying and/or impudent as him. Not calling you that, but...you just strangely remind me of him."
And you remind me of someone also Icetra. Someone on a very high horse who will make a very hard fall some day. Hope you learn and heal from it when that time comes.
And no Angeal, thats not what I'm saying at all. I dont think it was your *post* that was the reason for all this fuss. Only the confidence / big head (fine line) that was all over that post, and I feel many Vendetta members felt the same... untouchable, unlosable. It seem's that wasn't so.
"The thing is that, well, how I see this, is that Envy members are SOO proud of their ONE victory, that they can't bare seeing this thread die. "
Now what I find great about this lil statement, is tha if you go and count the number of Vendetta posts in this threadand then the number of Envy posts, I bet its more Vendetta. So, hows that make any sense?
- Tauro
One thing tauro, we are not proud of one victory, and also we actually won them twice, just saying, also im gonna try to PM and admin on the forums to close it^^
alberto777
09-14-2009, 07:26 AM
Holy, this is madness. All of you who are STILL squabbling over something as simple-minded as a guild war, should be ashamed of yourselves. Why don't you concentrate on leveling and playing the game , instead of lurking the forums hoping to cause more drama. :/
And Chicken, I agree...you all need to learn how to spell first anyhow.
EXACTLY!!, Vendetta!! its just a lost!! forget about it!! learn how to loose!
alberto777
09-14-2009, 07:27 AM
o.o i never said u did. that's why i dint say you did, the first part, as i said before, was what i understood from the previous post. The rest was of my opinion.
As Ive stated over and over, win or lose, i don't care, its how it is earned that irks me. I just don't like it when people play dirty, that's just me.
Cant the op just have this stupid thread closed already?This reminds me off the reason why i was always guild less.
maybe i should just quit entirely, drama like this is ridiculous.
lol... then quit vendetta.. they cause too much drama, too much, just a simple lost, they get all mad and stuff. thats why i quited that guild.
dustyj
09-14-2009, 07:48 AM
One thing tauro, we are not proud of one victory, and also we actually won them twice, just saying, also im gonna try to PM and admin on the forums to close it^^
I didn't say that hun. ^_^
kij024
09-14-2009, 08:16 AM
EXACTLY!!, Vendetta!! its just a lost!! forget about it!! learn how to loose!
Why!! Are!! You!! Shouting!!? its just a lost!!11oneone!!
jyden.
09-14-2009, 08:53 AM
I love how no one even tried to comment on anything I've said.........
....Love... it....
Alright. So, Tauro, you basically made a generalized statement about Vendetta members, you realize this, correct? That we're big headed, arrogant, etc. Mmm.... let's see... so you know absolutely every single person that intimately, eh? That you could sum them all up in two words, every single person... collectively, as a whole... and individually... confident/big headed...
That disappoints me greatly. I can name quite a few people who are quite literally the sweetest people I've met that are in Vendetta.
Now to address other statements made...
Yes, many of the posts are from Vendetta, but let's look at these posts, shall we?
A majority of them say the exact same thing-- the war was unfair, and won by dishonorable means.
A majority of them say that this post shouldn't even be up still, because it's an INSULT, and a blatant disregard of manners and correct behavior.
And not even all of your "supporting" vote are even from your guild-- and you know what, some of them simply supported you because you "beat" Vendetta.
Let's face it, people wanted to see Vendetta lose, and you know what, they did, but by under NO circumstances was it a fair gained loss. Who CARES if we actually lose for good reason? I don't. I really, honestly don't care. But I DO care when it's a loss that was gained by the aforementioned means.
And that, my dear, is what I'm "Just Saying." And if anyone is actually going to reply to this, please look to my former posts... they sum up what I know/feel in a nutshell, and I'd really not like to have to dig up quotes from there later.
<3
achickentender
09-14-2009, 09:05 AM
Holy, this is madness. All of you who are STILL squabbling over something as simple-minded as a guild war, should be ashamed of yourselves. Why don't you concentrate on leveling and playing the game , instead of lurking the forums hoping to cause more drama. :/
And Chicken, I agree...you all need to learn how to spell first anyhow.
EXACTLY!!, Vendetta!! its just a lost!! forget about it!! learn how to loose!
hehe i think she was talking to you because
1.your the ones still arguing that you won the war"fair and square"
2.we are the high levelsxD
3.your still spelling LOSS/LOSE wrong
...
ShonenHero
09-14-2009, 10:55 AM
You know guys, posting inside the thread saying it should be closed, is not gonna get it closed. What you need to do is to send a PM to a CL, be more proactive, they aren`t constantly searching all threads
Also, you`re all disgusting. Begone!
Shadowic2
09-14-2009, 10:57 AM
Closing this per request of the OP.
aaaaah yush T_T how to contact someone, GM CLOSE THREAD AND DELETE PLEASE, EVERYONE WAITING FOR IT...
ugh..T-T lets see if i can find something...
If you need to contact someone in regards to closing a thread, feel free to send a PM to one of us CLs, and we'll check it out ^^