You people at Outspark...

[roflmfaolol]

To be completely honest with you guys, i am aggrivated. Fiesta is the only mmo i play that gives me this much grief gameplay wise, totally serious about that.

I have a great connection & all i wanna kno(no sarcasm intended) is why these problems are blamed on players pc's & connections when soo many players have these problems, & i understand its not every1 that has these problems...

[gigibunny]

To be completely honest with you guys, i am aggrivated. Fiesta is the only mmo i play that gives me this much grief gameplay wise, totally serious about that.

I have a great connection & all i wanna kno(no sarcasm intended) is why these problems are blamed on players pc's & connections when soo many players have these problems, & i understand its not every1 that has these problems...

nice sentence there o.o You have a great connection but you are saying others blame player's pc's and u do understand that not every1 has these problems...

._. I leave now

[Kyo_Sama]

because a great majority of the time it is ID10T / PEBKAC errors.

about 80% of the people here know little to nothing about the inner workings of their PC's.

[ras-blackfire]

it is players pcs... X_x the game is good and playeble for everyone... if u dc alot or something... its just your pc =/

but ppl just LOVE to blame everything on OS

[GM_Nekopon]

You have six posts. They are all flames. You've explained that you have game .bin/disconnection issues. None of the threads have had admin replies. So where is this "You people at Outspark..." coming from?

[Fre_ak]

great connection is not the only factor that may prevent lag

[Tommy2k7_uk]

some people that play dont have the specs needed to play fiesta right. like some one might have a fast processor but bad video card or fast processor good video card and low ram and fiesta does eat up loads of ram sometimes close to 2GB when playing and most of the time all processing power so to play the game close to lag free or lag free id say youd need a pretty good computer with the right hardware

[grummin]

So where is this "You people at Outspark..." coming from?

From the wrong end of the poster's digestive tract? ;)

[roflmfaolol]

dint think id get an answer to my question... lolz

[ras-blackfire]

some people that play dont have the specs needed to play fiesta right. like some one might have a fast processor but bad video card or fast processor good video card and low ram and fiesta does eat up loads of ram sometimes close to 2GB when playing and most of the time all processing power

most ppl dont know those kinda stuff, so they just blame outspark o.o

[roflmfaolol]

still convinced fiestas a fail .-.

[Shadowic2]

There are many factors than can contribute to lag/connection issues that may not be either Outspark's or the user's fault.

Though a lot of the time it is the fact that people are not running on a machine/connection that is sufficient, or they are running too many programs, or happen to have someone else on their network hogging up everything.

It could also be an issue with the time it takes for a user's connection to travel from their location to where the servers are. It doesn't always take the best path and there can be issues with those pathways. Or it could be a problem with the service provider.

Also, bear in mind that the more people you have on a map in-game, the more data has to go through to your machine. This in itself can cause issues, especially if someone's machine/connection cannot handle it.

When you see someone who posts about an issue with lag or connection problems, the first thing Outspark or anyone else is going to try to find out is if it is a problem on their is. If it is, it can be fixed much easier. It has nothing to do with putting the blame on anyone. It's just a simple troubleshooting measure.

[alysin]

still convinced fiestas a fail .-.

Orly? Kthxbai.

[GM_Pilkysico]

To be completely honest with you guys, i am aggrivated. Fiesta is the only mmo i play that gives me this much grief gameplay wise, totally serious about that.

I have a great connection & all i wanna kno(no sarcasm intended) is why these problems are blamed on players pc's & connections when soo many players have these problems, & i understand its not every1 that has these problems...

Post your PC specifications so I can give you a better explanation.

[ras-blackfire]

It's nice how GMs still wanne help you after your posts.... >_>
u should be more thankfull

[Fre_ak]

here a little nice guide:
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196162

it has good info

[kshadow8030]

I have lag in fiesta also and it is not my PC or my connection. I know my system is far above what it takes to run fiesta and have built many systems myself so I know everything inside this one.

AMD 5200+ CPU
6 gigs of ram
500+ GB of HD Space
512MB video card ( PCIE )
and 6 MB connection with no lag on other MMOs

Now why exactly do I lag? Why is fiesta not setup in modules but alot of small files for each artifact in this game? The answer to people's lag is simple. Not enough bandwidth on server side. To much server load ( if server side is written the same as client it would not shock me ). To anyone that has tried to download 10,000 small files you know it takes alot longer ( packet headers and so on ) and it also takes longer to pull data from those files when there is alot of them. This is a server load / design problem plain and simple.

[Fre_ak]

@kshadow8030

u have an anti-virus or firewall?

[flashrom]

OK I guess I am one of those people that don't know anything about the inner workings of my system. Sad really I spent a lot of money on my IT training and certs ( guess that is money down the drain). This game has bugs, this game has issues, this game has DC problems, Lag problems, Programming errors, and on top of that it has abusive players, people that can't see the forest for the trees about issues with this game. Some people need to look up a little from the keyboard ( maybe stop trying to kiss up to the GM and the forum mods) and look around the game.

Not every problem is their problem. Like not every problem is the game. Yet I find that every problem is their problem even if it is a game issue that most people know about.

This is a rant thread and I for one say let them rant they have a right to and I will rant right along with this. Fiesta so far is a fail because of the way people are treated in game on on forum. This forum allows more flaming of people than any game forum I have seen but the difference is the people being flamed are the ones complaining.

Getting really sick of this game.

[bigj3234]

I have lag in fiesta also and it is not my PC or my connection. I know my system is far above what it takes to run fiesta and have built many systems myself so I know everything inside this one.

AMD 5200+ CPU
6 gigs of ram
500+ GB of HD Space
512MB video card ( PCIE )
and 6 MB connection with no lag on other MMOs

Now why exactly do I lag? Why is fiesta not setup in modules but alot of small files for each artifact in this game? The answer to people's lag is simple. Not enough bandwidth on server side. To much server load ( if server side is written the same as client it would not shock me ). To anyone that has tried to download 10,000 small files you know it takes alot longer ( packet headers and so on ) and it also takes longer to pull data from those files when there is alot of them. This is a server load / design problem plain and simple.

AMD What now?
What Operating System? Is it 32 or 64 bit?
And what is the video card? More memory != Better video card.

[kshadow8030]

@kshadow8030

u have an anti-virus or firewall?

The anti-virus is manually run not an active process. No firewall or any other monitoring software on this system. This system is less then 6 months old. It is a gaming system. It also has no problem with any other MMO, single player, or even home brew games I want to play. I can video edit three videos at one time ( ram / video is not a problem. ) and my CPU is way over powered. The Hard Drive is defragged once a day ( not once a week ) and the swap file is cleared on every reboot and resized. Only three other active user processes are running when fiesta is running.

On other MMOs I can run two of them at the same time ( both MMOs ) and be in game with less lag then fiesta. While I am in both those MMOs ( with higher end graphics on gameplay btw ) I can watch a nice movie on Hulu or youtube and also chat with friends on myspace or in IM chat.

I do none of these on fiesta and get more lag.

[flashrom]

@kshadow8030

u have an anti-virus or firewall?

I mean no offense you have idea how many times I have seen that question or even asked that question myself. Yes a AV or firewall can cause issue yet rarely do they do so. It is a good question but the reason I am kind of laughing about it is that is a canned answer I have seen with many PC problems is ask about AV and firewall. ( BTW I running a HW based firewall, stand alone AV ( just so I keep the footprint low on this system for gaming) and I still get lag, DC's and more issues than any game I have played.) Not all problems can be sourced back to someones system or what they are running.

I would trust Kshadow to work on any one of my systems ( I should he is my brother) or any one of the peoples systems I have worked on. He is a better tech than most people I have seen that took the same training I have. Believe me when he says it is not his system you can bank on it.

[blacksilks]

Oh wow, you're flaming to the flame *roasts marshmallows* I haven't read the threat through, honestly, I don't really wanna go through 3 pages of ppl badmouthing an actual ok question. MY computer is just fine, I've sent it to pc doctor and talked to a few ppl before i even DREAMED of asking anything. Yet, I still get DCed and last time I asked... well, guess what answer I got? I just really wanna say that, even though there are times when DC IS in fact conected to the computer, sometimes it may not be. Ever since two patches ago I dc a lot more often BUT they fixed it (I hope) with the new patch. Before you "flame on" on the "flame on" take out some marshmallows and think if there is reason for the fire to spread.

Silks out

Edit: I stand corrected, the flames have stoped and I may put my sunglasses and sun bloker away.

[kshadow8030]

AMD What now?
What Operating System? Is it 32 or 64 bit?
And what is the video card? More memory != Better video card.

Ok more memory / Better video card lol

Lets recap.

6 gigs of ram

video is a 512 MB PCIE

exactly why would fiesta need more memory and video ram then 2 of the high end games on the market?

The OS is not a problem. It is vista but you can take your pick between 32 and 64 bit ( duel boot ).

If I can not run fiesta on 6 gigs of ram and a 512 MB video card then I agree this game is a Fail. Games with 10x better graphics take less then that.

Ohhh btw how many people are running a crossfire 1T video on here? You know payed the price for two 512 MB PCIEs to play fiesta.

[flashrom]

AMD What now?
What Operating System? Is it 32 or 64 bit?
And what is the video card? More memory != Better video card.

OMG. The specs on his system are more than is needed for this game. 32 or 64 bit what video card? More memory!= better video card.? HUH?

So far what I have seen is it is system problems, then a system shows up that is above and beyond what is needed for this game that has problems. Then I see questions that have no bearing on the issue and comment that really don't make sense.

I think I will step back from this post. When they go from a little weird because of it is always the system to things I don't even understand it is time to step away.

Check the system requirements for this game and see how they match up to that system.

[bigj3234]

OMG. The specs on his system are more than is needed for this game. 32 or 64 bit what video card? More memory!= better video card.? HUH?

So far what I have seen is it is system problems, then a system shows up that is above and beyond what is needed for this game that has problems. Then I see questions that have no bearing on the issue and comment that really don't make sense.

I think I will step back from this post. When they go from a little weird because of it is always the system to things I don't even understand it is time to step away.

Check the system requirements for this game and see how they match up to that system.

The processor matters. This game is very processor intensive. AMD 5200+ doesn't really mean anything. Turon? Athlon? K7?

If his OS is only 32-bit, it does not matter that he has 6GB of RAM, since the system is using 3GB maximum, and more likely closer to 2GB.

And again, the game is processor intensive, which includes the GPU. Just because the video card has 512MB of RAM does not mean it has a good processor on it. != reads as "not equal to."

System Requirements:
OS: WindowsXP, Windows Vista
CPU: Intel Pentium IV 1.6GHz or equivalent
RAM: 512MB
Hard Drive: 3GB
Graphics Card: nVIDIA GeForce MX or equivalent
DirectX: DirectX 9.0c or higher
Connections: DSL (128kpbs) or better

Those are the minimum requirements. They are a joke. Fiesta uses all of one of my processor cores at all times, sometimes a little bit of both (according to %'s anyways). A small amount of memory usage is around 600MB, not including the Virtual Memory.

There are of course times when lag is caused by a server side issue, but it does not happen as often as people think.


Edit: I apologize, but it appears as though the K-line of AMD processors stopped at K6-2.

[kshadow8030]

Please read about AMD CPUs before asking me to define it.

AMD 5200+ is a duel core and if you check out any websites you will see it is in the range of a good gaming system. Anything else is overkill right now till the games catch up. Right now 99% of games will not even come close to my CPU or video card.

Gforce 8600 GTS PCIE with 512MB will help you here.

BTW a 5200+ is a 5200+ AMD got rid of some of there naming system. You can get a black box CPU or not but a 5200+ is the CPU. The others you talked about went out back in the old 3 GHZ CPU days.

[flashrom]

This is my last post on this not in the mood to argue with useless junk. Lets spell it out.


SYSTEM REQUIREMENT

WINDOWS XP, WINDOWS VISTA ( would have to be one or the other right?)

INTEL PENTIUM IV 2.0ghz or EQUIVALENT (5200+ if that isn't enough then should give up playing at all)

1GB MEMORY (6 GB memory I think 6 is greater than 1)

3GB HD (500+ GB see no problem there)

nVIDIA GeForce TI or Radeon 9200 (512 GB PCIE would more than cover that)


So basically doesn't matter if it is 32 or 64 bit 1 gig recommended on memory.

Video card 512 PCIE come on why blame the video card.


I will say it plain as I can for the cheap seats. This game has DC problems, has bugs and you know if some of you would stop talking about how bad peoples system are and maybe even read what some of the GM's have said there are issues. I have seen so many post that a GM will agree about an issue and say they are working on it or they know about it. Then get another post about the person system is messed up.

Last comment on this. When I said look at system requirements I didn't mean min. and you know it. You might also want to look up the 5200+ processor with the comments you made on what type it was I can see it might be a good read.

Post what you like after this I could care less after seeing some of these posts I have to look at the source of them.

[Sparkleh]

From personal experience I've found out that most of the time lag happens because of your ISP and how direct is your connection. Some are better and some worse, also too many connections at the same time. plus if your comp is in network (trying to play from work or school). I have mediocre laptop with integrated! graphic card lol, wireless connection and i rarely ever lag except on the first floor of henneath kq lol

Also backround programs like torrent downloads, some antivirus progs, anything animated in the background (no matter how good is your comp). What ive found out, graphic card has nothing to do with lag.

[GM_Nekopon]

There are bugs and glitches in this game. This is what it says in our help page (http://outspark.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/18/kw/lag/r_id/166/sno/1):

"What do I do if my game is lagging?

Game lag can be attributed to various things such as:

1. Your computer being below our system requirements (specifically your video card or RAM).
2. An internet connection issue.
3. A bug in the game. "

If it's not 1 or 2, it must be 3. We're not admitting that Fiesta is perfect.

[bigj3234]

Please read about AMD CPUs before asking me to define it.

AMD 5200+ is a duel core and if you check out any websites you will see it is in the range of a good gaming system. Anything else is overkill right now till the games catch up. Right now 99% of games will not even come close to my CPU or video card.

Gforce 8600 GTS PCIE with 512MB will help you here.

BTW a 5200+ is a 5200+ AMD got rid of some of there naming system. You can get a black box CPU or not but a 5200+ is the CPU. The others you talked about went out back in the old 3 GHZ CPU days.

lol @ "old 3 GHZ CPU days."

Anyway. (btw I just now saw your other post.)

And again, if you run 32-bit (at this point I assume you are aware of it) you do not actually have 6 GB of RAM.

I agree your specs are well above and beyond the requirements.

So, what else do you have running when you run Fiesta? What's your network like? Is it a constant 6MB downstream, and is it actually MegaBYTES, or is it really Megabits? Do you live in the EU/Asia?

[GM_Pilkysico]

I'd like to throw this out there.


Min/Recommended requirements are the requirements for the Operating System (XP/Vista).

We do understand that sometimes the servers may "lag".

The servers are located in Northern California in a very cold and noisy room. Service is provided by a 3rd party company and not actually hosted by Outspark. If there is a latency issue, it can be investigated.

To get a better understanding of lag, please keep in mind of the location of where you live. Speed tests are also fun to try.

As for gaming rigs, here's my recommendations.

Processor: Dual Core+
Ram: 2-4GB DDR2
Video: 256+ DDR3

Since Fiesta has "tons" of customization, it has loads of problems when rendering players in town since everyone looks different. If you play other games that don't lag, keep in mind of the environment and players around you. Lowering Background distance, Line of Sight, and also Shadows make a huge difference.

The best benchmark is Crysis. If your system can run Crysis on maximum settings, it can run anything.

[CSR_Circe]

At the risk of sounding snarky .. consider submitting a ticket when you have an issue like this so we can get the pertinent data from you in a confidential format and then run them past our QA team. Peer-to-peer troubleshooting is fine, but please remember that unless you are willing to disclose EVERYTHING about your configuration (and I don't recommend that in a public venue), you run the risk of omitting some critical bit of info that may impact the validity of the advice or recommendations you receive.

[kshadow8030]

Ok this is going to be my last post ( hopefully ) as I said before I have 3 running user processes.

1. Network card software

2. Video Card Software

3. explorer.exe ( I think this one my be needed what do you think? )

Now to my connection. My ISP has run new line to me 1 year ago. I tracert and ping very low with no packet loss. I speed test above my 6 mb on 4 speed tests. I have a higher download speed then stated by ISP. More or less I am above what I payed for.

Now lets get to the basics here.

1. It is not my system.

2. It is not my connection

3. It is not the fact that the moon is not in line with mars and my pets don't eat alpo.

So if it is not me or my ISP that only leave what?

[bigj3234]

Ah, I missed the post where you stated the user processes. But, active or not they still eat resources, especially with Vista.

I choose Option 4. The price of tea in China is not stable. Please contact a CSR.

Although, it could still be all 4 options.

[kshadow8030]

At the risk of sounding snarky .. consider submitting a ticket when you have an issue like this so we can get the pertinent data from you in a confidential format and then run them past our QA team. Peer-to-peer troubleshooting is fine, but please remember that unless you are willing to disclose EVERYTHING about your configuration (and I don't recommend that in a public venue), you run the risk of omitting some critical bit of info that may impact the validity of the advice or recommendations you receive.

I do thank you for this reply. There is very little else that can be stated about my system that would effect the troubleshooting process of lag and DC problem people are having. I have stated what is in my system, what software I am running and so on.

Also the people I am in a party with also have the same problems at the same time. It is not just my system and me but many others at the same time.

When I trouble shoot a problem on a network and I see one system with a problem I check that system. If I see two system I still check that system. Five or more I check the network and server first.

[Sparkleh]

Don't bite my head off if you've already said it but I didn't see :D ...do you have the same problem with other games or only fiesta? Like can you fly into Jita system in Eve online and have little or no lag at all (That's probably even better testing point lol)

[kshadow8030]

Don't bite my head off if you've already said it but I didn't see :D ...do you have the same problem with other games or only fiesta? Like can you fly into Jita system in Eve online and have little or no lag at all (That's probably even better testing point lol)

Nay your trying to be helpful and not flaming so no head biting here lol

I don't have any problems with other games even ones based overseas. The little lag I have gotten on some is due to packet loss ( location overseas ).

I can state a list of MMOs I play but it may break forum TOS so I will not lol.

I have check other MMOs the last few days and no lag on them ( or alot less lag on game based on korean servers then fiesta ).

I do thank you for your kind replies tho because as I seen in the forums lately they are few and far between. I came into this thread because someone was having the same problem as many of us and was getting canned replies and flammed so I felt that I should reply.

[lightnin3]

ok here it goes i have a 3500 proc 512 nvidia pci express 2000 ddr2 ram 120 gig hd windows xp ive played other mmo games online had 2 going at 1 time and have mess and other stuff going and not had the lag like i got on this game you know lag wont be fix until they want to fix it

[Sparkleh]

I'm sorry I couldn't help, I was pretty sure it was something with isp, based on what my friends who use other services have told me. I've searched on the net about it and found tons of material on the lag subject and it's like looking for a needle in haystack -.- There is so many things it could be :/

[kshadow8030]

I'm sorry I couldn't help, I was pretty sure it was something with isp, based on what my friends who use other services have told me. I've searched on the net about it and found tons of material on the lag subject and it's like looking for a needle in haystack -.- There is so many things it could be :/

I do thank you for trying tho.

When I call my ISP now the call center puts me through to the IT lol. I tell them which node is down, if it is the backbone or one of the two tiers they are running. I have even talked to them when they want advice lol.

You are right tho there is a lot of things that can cause lag but one thing you have to look at is the type of lag and how the server software reacts to it. If you are lagging you will see one type of lag ( or your internet connection lagging ) if it is the server bugging out of lagging you will see another type of lag. It depends on what you see in the game as soon as the lag is gone. What I see is a glitch or server lag. I don't even count uruga because it is a known lag place ( you can get software lag for uruga ) but if your in a party in a dungeon and your the only party there and all in the party lag then it is server lag.

btw for the people that like alittle more info I have pinged fiesta server and got less then a 80ms reply on both connections. So I don't think it is a connection / packet routing problem

Also I do live in the USA.

< edit >
I also figured i would monitor some packets while I was at it and the last lag I got was due to the server not sending packets to me ( not replying to my request in simple terms ) so as to me I am no longer looking on my end.

[Mindspank]

"because a great majority of the time it is ID10T / PEBKAC errors."

I find it completely hillarious that no one has even asked what that means. Even funnier that it was dropped in the OS forums. I got a chuckle out of this.

I run Fiesta maxed out, but for PVP/Large event purposes, I made it look as ugly as possible by lowering everything so it can run fast. I dont have alot of the problems other users are plagued with, aside from the occasional bin error and gate disconnect.

[Sparkleh]

hmmm that is interesting. I've learned to recognize server lag,... well it gets pretty obvious when everyone starts to complain at the same time lol but it happens very rarely for me. Even Uruga is running pretty smooth, lag lasts maybe 3 seconds upon arrival compared with 5 minutes when i couldn't move at all when i entered the town. But that's when i was playing on my old computer with very low ram.

I hope you will find solution for that problem soon, I know how frustrating it can be :/

[zipiouch]

To be completely honest with you guys, i am aggrivated. Fiesta is the only mmo i play that gives me this much grief gameplay wise, totally serious about that.

I have a great connection & all i wanna kno(no sarcasm intended) is why these problems are blamed on players pc's & connections when soo many players have these problems, & i understand its not every1 that has these problems...

er...Failmuch?

[drigr_x]

I find what Spark said interesting. If it was indeed server side lag, EVERYONE would have it. So it is more than likely a computer, network, or ISP side problem.

I have comcast internet, a cruddy linksys router, a factory default laptop that was new in February and can still run Fiesta fine while keeping the forums open (though I normally close it it for speed)

[Wolfdevil007]

http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu152/pajin09/BuyingaComputerforDummies2006Editio.jpg

[drigr_x]

2006 edition. So out dated...

Somethign else that came to me while doing dishes that helps suport it not being server lag. Server lag would mean the whole server lags (like I said earlier everyone should complain) though someone might've tried to go against that so I decided to add. SERVER lag wont be just "Okay now... I'm gonna lag some poeple... I pick YOU... And YOU!.. Oh but not you... YOU TOO!" If there is a lot of people agging at once but not everyone maybe they should really speculate about if they live close to each other (maybe soemthing wrong in their area) or have the same internet provider, cause their provider might have a problem. Or they are all funneling toward the server at the same point and that single point is lagging.

[Wolfdevil007]

am quite sure the 2006 edition will be more than usefull for him/her

[dark_anime]

Another problem is that fiesta don't run with quad core and more ram usage so i tend to lag a bit in uruga. (my quad core clock speed is 1.5 ghz, lol i lower it but my ram speed is 677 Mhz )

[redassassin]

dint think id get an answer to my question... lolz

Are you testing to see who will answer or not? lolzzz
u just wanted attention eh? well..I read what everyone has suggested or said
In this thread I would advice you that you look more into your PC and game requirments and Internet sped connections, Its true allot of people have the same problem as you do but it is because they over run their PC with allot of programs (etc)

You have six posts. They are all flames. You've explained that you have game .bin/disconnection issues. None of the threads have had admin replies. So where is this "You people at Outspark..." coming from?

Umm, out of the question..how did u come up with the name Nekopon, In Japanese Neko=Cat but Nekopon is a Ware Cat is that what u meant?
lolzzz, just curious! :cool:

Chears!

[Mindspank]

While server lag would not be completely selective, some users will experience it worse than others.

Outspark Server A (Northern California) has a hiccup.

Player A lives in San Francisco. Lets call him Brian. We know he's totally addicted to fiesta anyways...

Player B lives in Florida. Lets call him Fred.

Player C lives in the UK. Call him William

When the server hiccups, Brian might not even notice at all. He has highspeed internet, plus he lives within commuting distance from the server. Fred might experience some rubberbanding, or warping. MAYBE a disconnect.

Williams SOL.

See how that works? While the server would lag every player. Based on connections and geographic locations, some players will notice it, some wont, some will cry. So it gives a misleading appearance that its a player specific problem (Like pc issues or internet speed) when in actuallity, it could just be your location in relation to the server.

Server lag is one of the hardest problems to confirm. Unless the entire server goes down, no one can really say if its your pc, your connection, or the server actually lagging.

Unless you used the 2006 edition of pc buying for dummies. Then I can pretty much guarantee your hardware might have something to do with it.

[drigr_x]

I did mention that they could find out how close they are to each other in location as well. The hicup could be anywhere. If it was so unbearable to play from the UK to here, I would play the UK version

[Asheer]

Another problem is that fiesta don't run with quad core and more ram usage so i tend to lag a bit in uruga. (my quad core clock speed is 1.5 ghz, lol i lower it but my ram speed is 677 Mhz )

99.9% software don't use quad cores because Vista (not to mention XP) don't support quad core processors.
Of course fiesta will run on quad core but he will be used like dual core for example and first system whitch will from default support quads will be Win 7.

*sigh*... thread like this are very good example in what bad stage is current fiesta community.
In the past when such issue pop up many forum members were actually try to help solve whole problem, today such treads are subject of flames directed to OPs, jokes or plain rudeness.

Maybe it's time that somebody could make thread sumarized last two years of fiesta egsistence but on the other hand... i am afraid that picture surfaced from such thread wont be so bright and shiny as many could expect.:(

[GSL2007]

99.9% software don't use quad cores because Vista (not to mention XP) don't support quad core processors.
Of course fiesta will run on quad core but he will be used like dual core for example and first system whitch will from default support quads will be Win 7.
:(

Your wrong. Windows xp, vista and even the next gen OS(WIn 7) do support quad core it's just that the program(like game/application) are not coded to fully utilize a quad-core processor.

[Rinsewind]

got a flash for you outspark lovers... my wife runs fiesta on her desktop (64 bit Vista-home), simoultaniously. i run a mule on my laptop ( XP) while playing a main on my desktop (also XP) now.... just tell me that when we run into the same glitches that it is OUR fault. I also notice there was NO reply to the origional post from any official rep from outspark.

[Mindspank]

They replied. Silkys just waiting for him to post his PC specs

[bigj3234]

While server lag would not be completely selective, some users will experience it worse than others.

Outspark Server A (Northern California) has a hiccup.

Player A lives in San Francisco. Lets call him Brian. We know he's totally addicted to fiesta anyways...

Player B lives in Florida. Lets call him Fred.

Player C lives in the UK. Call him William

When the server hiccups, Brian might not even notice at all. He has highspeed internet, plus he lives within commuting distance from the server. Fred might experience some rubberbanding, or warping. MAYBE a disconnect.

Williams SOL.

See how that works? While the server would lag every player. Based on connections and geographic locations, some players will notice it, some wont, some will cry. So it gives a misleading appearance that its a player specific problem (Like pc issues or internet speed) when in actuallity, it could just be your location in relation to the server.

Server lag is one of the hardest problems to confirm. Unless the entire server goes down, no one can really say if its your pc, your connection, or the server actually lagging.

Unless you used the 2006 edition of pc buying for dummies. Then I can pretty much guarantee your hardware might have something to do with it.

Your example proves that it IS a player specific problem. Also, that this particular problem is not a hardware issue. *shrugs*

Your wrong. Windows xp, vista and even the next gen OS(WIn 7) do support quad core it's just that the program(like game/application) are not coded to fully utilize a quad-core processor.

pwned.

[Panma]

I just want them to divulge server information.

We give them our computer specifications all day long, and we know nothing about them (Outspark).

Unless one of the IT guys wants to clarify...

All six servers could hypothetically be running on the same box. That means one actual server (a computer with no monitor in laments terms) could be running all six server applications.

Of course that's highly unlikely. But you get my point. That's how little we know about the servers.

They say they're rented out, but all that means to us (us as in the majority of players) is that it's possible that some bum in California is running all the servers off of three 600MHz Windows 95 computers.

[kshadow8030]

I just want them to divulge server information.

We give them our computer specifications all day long, and we know nothing about them (Outspark).

Unless one of the IT guys wants to clarify...

All six servers could hypothetically be running on the same box. That means one actual server (a computer with no monitor in laments terms) could be running all six server applications.

Of course that's highly unlikely. But you get my point. That's how little we know about the servers.

They say they're rented out, but all that means to us (us as in the majority of players) is that it's possible that some bum in California is running all the servers off of three 600MHz Windows 95 computers.

I am shocked someone that understands that a server is not like there PC. j/k

The big problem here is that people keep trying to compare this problem as if it was a PC not a server. If someone has ever worked on a rackmout or blade server they would know that you can have more then one blade ( or rack ) doing the same thing ( or even just parts of it ) and the people connected would have no idea it was only 1 blade. Also you could have 200 people connected to the server and only have 50 on one blade and so on. Now if 1 blade glitched or had lag problem on its tier connection then those people would lag or even DC while the others would not even know anything happened.

So lets recap.
1. It can still be a server / game problem as the GMs even stated.
2. Just because everyone is not have the same problem does not mean it is the end users problem.
3. Do not call greenky's names because they like to stun

[Sharlyne]

after yesterdays event fiesta dosent wan work anymore i uninstall and reinstall it and still dosent work now i gotta erase comp u.u

[salman.pisces]

the problems usually have something to do with the person's hardware/connection but at many instances,they are due to Outspark.If you are sure it's not your fault,just send a ticket to the CSRs(but check the knowledge base first and also have a look at the stickies thread).They will probably fix your problem in a few days.