Po'ed, and I mean bigtime...

[take.]

Where to even begin...

I just went to enhance my 90 BK with your "Perfect Enhancement Bundle" OS, only to find that I needed not five, not even ten, but FIFTEEN tries to get 3 F'ing levels :(. This Po'es me so bad I can't even describe it, but let's give it a try anyway, shall we?

First off, this is essentially false advertising, the bundle is nowhere near perfect and you know it. At least have the common decency to change the name to something like "Enhancement Bundle T4" or "Enhancement Bundle T3" :mad:

Secondly, I can understand 2, maybe 3 fails for this in ten tries, but I experienced over TWENTY FIVE failures in total, if you people think that's anywhere near acceptable, boy are you in for a rude awakening...

Quite frankly, you guys need to get the dollar signs out of your eyes, get your **** together and start making some improvements for a change, and by improvements I don't mean just for YOUR monetary benefit :mad: I am so so sick of crap like this I could throw up :mad:

Please please please for the love of all that is sacred, stop thinking about money, and start thinking about the players!

/end rant

Sincerely
~Po'ed Archer of Epith

also inb4 wallet jokes

[Takimi]

I think it's honestly luck, even if you ARE using a Gold Nine.

In one T4 Enhancement Bundle of perfects- I got a +6 out of 10 tries. One was a +2 enhancement on a lucky stone, but I got +6 anyhow.

I have heard of some items taking $60 to enhance, which is ridiculous. The Gold Nines, in my opinion, need to have more than a 15% chance of increased success.

[tracyzap]

do you blame the casino when the roll of the dice doesn't hit a six 22 times in a row?

you do understand what random means don't you?

you should also know (cause everyone always goes on about it) that the rarer the item, the less likely the chance is of success - white things your level or lower are easiest to enhance, greens are harder, blues harder still, oranges even harder, bk's & bkr's about as hard as blues.... and so on. it's all algorythmic, but it's still based on a random number.

it used to pee me off when i played dungeons and dragons and my enhances didn't work, but i didn't blame the guy in charge of the game, cause it was a roll of a dice, and i was just unlucky.

and "perfect" doesn't mean auto-enhance, otherwise what would the point in all three stones be - it just means it won't break, or it won't downgrade, depending on which one you use.

the thing is, people like you only complain when it takes a lot of stones to enhance something, yet hundreds (if not thousands) of things get enhanced every day, i'm sure - why doesn't everyone else complain that their stuff got to +9 with a single 10pack? or with 11 stones, or even less than 9 stones?

just because luck wasn't on your side today, you automatically assume that the game was altered specifically to take your personal money away... when someone i know happened to get from +0 to +9 on a 9x item with 12 stones yesterday...

[Panma]

Just to point out, I used 10 sets of Reds and Blues to get a level 50 to +9.

So you're level 80 can go suck it.

[skysparkle]

i never point it out when i have gd luck as um it never happens my best enhancing was 3 stacks of reds/blues if each time was a maximum of 3 i wouldnt mind but my luck seems to suck sooooooooo bad

the last thing i enhanced took me 22tries to get from +7 to +9 i agree with the op enhancing is to much in this game we all understand its down to luck and is random blah blah i just think the success rate needs to b upped a lil considering the amount of rl money we are paying

[Rinsewind]

I don't even bother anymore- my lvl 85 uses an unenhanced weapon- being a cleric, its just a matter of taking a little longer to bore the critter to death. I agree with the op in that outspark should concern more about player issues.. makes a lot of sense to buy all those nice bundles and still get disconnected passng through portals- you can sell the dances to the goldspammers so they'll at least be doing something in town other than standing there.

[drigr_x]

They could just remove the use of those SC enhancement stones and force you to leave it +0 or break... Though even with all of the "OMG! I'm never enhancing again!" people, there are still people with a massive bank account buying them...

[literoyalty]

Remember to always use Blessed stones when enhancing high leveled.
I tried enhancing a BK staff and I got +3 from 10 tries of lucky stones. Then, I used blessed stones and got it to +9 with 10 tries.

[TwistedFreak]

I agree with the op, enhancment over the past 6months + has realy badly went down the drain, sucess rate sucks bad, and there are alot of people complaing about this, theres been many forum posts andmany discussions in game, people who enhance in 1 stack or just over are just very very lucky btu teh average persons for items to +9 is about 3 stacks of reds and blues.

I have found gold nines to have different effect it says +15% enhance rate and yet the odds dont always work out liek that. I have used super gold nines as well 20% enhanment rate increase and seen no difference.

Its getting more and more costly over time to enhance and enhancing always appears worse when offers on (they wont admit it but wouldnt suprise me os decreases chances of the stones to get more sales during the cheaper prices)

TBH os needs to sort them self out with alot of things this being one of them, as if they think they gonna be making much money from t5 stones going by their prices of t4 its gonna be very expensive nd since it costs over 1g for xir in game not many ppl will even bother as u got to be rich in game and out to do it, not to mention the prices of them t5 +9's would be so riduculously high that even fewer ppl would buy one from a vendor or even concider it as prices wil be alot higher then heligate weapons do to sheer cost to enhance.

and yeah yeah yeah we heard all b4 os is a busineess needs to make money blah blah blah, if os is able to expand servers nd introduce new games over the past year, that says they are making more than a comftoble amount as a company doesnt expand unless its raking in some good profit.

we are being knock at every turn by os the main one this week tho is dances.....we where told preminant but we get 30 days >> they blame it on onson soft yet gms can have the dances constantly (yeah they gms etc etc) .......going of topic there.

yeah enahcning sucks lately for the price we pay and its onyl gonna get worse......

[Rinsewind]

recent enhancement rate... up to a month ago, i would use the pattern n nw n for t1 elrue- stocking lvl 20 +3 shields into my academy rewards- i would do 3 or 4 shields at a time without a hitch. lately, it is not as successful- instead of using 3 stones to get to
+3, it takes 5 or 6 and have even seen failures since. there's a vidio on U-tube that shows the pattern from +1 to +6 ( this had a 97% success rate)

[Roseanna]

"Perfect" in the title only means that they're "perfect" slates... meaning not 50%. If you think this is bad, imagine back in the early days when there were no perfect slates... only 50%. You'd buy cash shop items just to still have your item blow up. Granted, go back a little further and there was no cash shop at all... and the only enhanced items we had were from robo kq, or rich bored people who blew up tons of items trying with only stones.

Yeah, I do think that the enhancement system on this game is unacceptable. But as long as people continue to pay $50 per t4 item enhanced, OS will continue the system just the way it is. So I've given up and found some trustworthy enhancers. I'd rather spend 20g than 50 bucks.

[resigood]

T4 enhancing is overpriced, end of lol

i dread to imagine the price of T5

when this sale came on i was so tempted to stock up on T4 bundles for my 95 set
but its just too expensive
it would cost about £100 or more to get a complete set
boots hat pants shirt
probably more with weps and shield

heck i could buy 2 or 3 new games for xbox 360 with that!

plus isnt enhancing a form of online gambling? lol

[salman.pisces]

Iv'e got a t3 to +5 without any SparkCash item(in 10 tries).Its pure luck.If you are unlucky,its not OS's fault.

[fa1nt]

Took 19 stones to up a level 40 GGK staff to +9 on Legel.

Just +1 to 3 took about 7.

[Plushii]

Yeah my lvl 86 hat took 60 dollar to +9
But I call it bad luck =3

My TBK, HG, 95 set, all were between 19-25 tries to +9

[Idnem]

do you blame the casino when the roll of the dice doesn't hit a six 22 times in a row?

you do understand what random means don't you?

you should also know (cause everyone always goes on about it) that the rarer the item, the less likely the chance is of success - white things your level or lower are easiest to enhance, greens are harder, blues harder still, oranges even harder, bk's & bkr's about as hard as blues.... and so on. it's all algorythmic, but it's still based on a random number.

it used to pee me off when i played dungeons and dragons and my enhances didn't work, but i didn't blame the guy in charge of the game, cause it was a roll of a dice, and i was just unlucky.

and "perfect" doesn't mean auto-enhance, otherwise what would the point in all three stones be - it just means it won't break, or it won't downgrade, depending on which one you use.

the thing is, people like you only complain when it takes a lot of stones to enhance something, yet hundreds (if not thousands) of things get enhanced every day, i'm sure - why doesn't everyone else complain that their stuff got to +9 with a single 10pack? or with 11 stones, or even less than 9 stones?

just because luck wasn't on your side today, you automatically assume that the game was altered specifically to take your personal money away... when someone i know happened to get from +0 to +9 on a 9x item with 12 stones yesterday...

When are people like this person gonna understand that it's not the "OMG RANDOMNESS" that pisses people off? Seriously I'm curious to know. It's the "RATE OF RANDOMNESS" that pisses poeple off.

Instead of spewing mindless crap about how this game should be like this...or be like that, actually TAKE in consideration that some complaints are






**GASP**













**WAIT FOR IT**












...actually justified. (hint hint hint, that's why there is sooooooooooooooooooooooo many people complaining about it! /hint /hint /hint) Now did that compute?

[resigood]

Yeah my lvl 86 hat took 60 dollar to +9
But I call it bad luck =3

My TBK, HG, 95 set, all were between 19-25 tries to +9

you call it bad luck
i call it daylight robbery lol

[graciela8]

you call it bad luck
i call it daylight robbery lol


lol. I agree. It took me about 30$ (if not more) to enhance a level 70 blue wand for my alt mage. I used to enhance items myself, because it didn't seem to be a big deal, but it's honestly much too expensive now. I'm just going to try to make more IG money and spend that way. It's not worth allowing OS to tap into my bank account any more than they already do. z.z;

[Fre_ak]

you call it bad luck
i call it daylight robbery lol
i call it give ur money away :O

[evieevie]

yeah i used to enhance but i havent in ages and im not likely to again. Seriously your better off making money ig and trying to buy one. Id sooner have a +0 than a completely empty purse ^^

[Shera1]

Originally Posted by Plushii
Yeah my lvl 86 hat took 60 dollar to +9
But I call it bad luck =3

My TBK, HG, 95 set, all were between 19-25 tries to +9

i call it give ur money away :O

Ya.. I must agree w/fire here. If you realy want to throw $60 out the window, please take the time, $0.40 some odd cents for a stamp, and mail me your check. I can find much better ingame/out-of-game items to spend your hard earned money on. :p

Nomo Enhancin Foe Dis Play'r/Pay'r. We B Poe Pple! :eek:

[Roseanna]

LOL, I just tell people to pay my electric bill.

[spookyiness]

When are people like this person gonna understand that it's not the "OMG RANDOMNESS" that pisses people off? Seriously I'm curious to know. It's the "RATE OF RANDOMNESS" that pisses poeple off.

Instead of spewing mindless crap about how this game should be like this...or be like that, actually TAKE in consideration that some complaints are

**GASP**

**WAIT FOR IT**

...actually justified. (hint hint hint, that's why there is sooooooooooooooooooooooo many people complaining about it! /hint /hint /hint) Now did that compute?


yeah, so many
so how many people play fiesta?
how many people enhance?
how many people actually complain?

i wouldn't say that it's justified at all, as i see people enhancing without even using up a single stack of 10 eyes/miles/nines/stones, and some people end up using a lot, that's why it's called random

as was said before, the only people that DO complain are those who lose out and use more than 'normal' (whatever normal is), all those people that enhance happily and don't use many stones don't open up a new thread every day to say that they did it in 8 stones, or 15 stones, or whathaveyou. it's only a few people, in the grand scheme of things, that actually complain about the number of stones used.

and it's the people who enhance higher level stuff, or blues, or greens, or oranges that complain a little more, because it's harder to enhance higher level things, and harder still to enhance gears (vs weapons), which is perfectly logical.

now, are we going to bring back all the threads where people comlpain that they can't sell their normal greens cause everyone has a +9 and there are waaaay too many +9s in the game, it should be harder, there shouldn't be the perfect items in store, etc? or shall we just bounce between "too many +9's" and "omg, i CHOSE TO SPEND $1000 enhancing 1 thing"

noone forces you to buy stuff, so why complain when you do buy it.

if i was an enhancer, and i had to buy 4 stacks of eyes/miles/nines and i wasn't even at +6 yet, i would stop there, i wouldn't carry on and make it 10 stacks just so i could complain.... like seriously, if it takes too many, why are you choosing to buy them? if it bothers you so much, why do it? noone forces anyone to ever buy stuff, as proven by the fact i've never enhnaced anything using cash shop items in my life of the game.

[Idnem]

yeah, so many
so how many people play fiesta?
how many people enhance?
how many people actually complain?

Take another look at this thread sweetheart, I'm pretty sure the negative outweights the positive.

i wouldn't say that it's justified at all, as i see people enhancing without even using up a single stack of 10 eyes/miles/nines/stones, and some people end up using a lot, that's why it's called random

Hi spooky, have you ever met reading comprehension?
Here let me introduce you:

Originally posted by me: When are people like this person gonna understand that it's not the "OMG RANDOMNESS" that pisses people off? It's the "RATE OF RANDOMNESS" that pisses poeple off.

Now notice the underlinings and boldings of certain words, add 2 and 2 together, then come back with a reply that actually doesn't look stupid. Thanks come again.


as was said before, the only people that DO complain are those who lose out and use more than 'normal' (whatever normal is), all those people that enhance happily and don't use many stones don't open up a new thread every day to say that they did it in 8 stones, or 15 stones, or whathaveyou. it's only a few people, in the grand scheme of things, that actually complain about the number of stones used.

And where exactly do you get these statistics? Only a Few poeple? Umm no according to this thread it seems to be a majority. But if you have any data or charts to show us exactly how many do complain ingame and out then do so instead of going off on a rambling opinion.

and it's the people who enhance higher level stuff, or blues, or greens, or oranges that complain a little more, because it's harder to enhance higher level things, and harder still to enhance gears (vs weapons), which is perfectly logical.

Oh...so now it makes perfect sense to complain at some tipping point...so when it sounds logical to you... then everyone else must understand YOUR logic. Then it's all ok to complain. Sorry the real world doesn't evolve around YOUR logic.

now, are we going to bring back all the threads where people comlpain that they can't sell their normal greens cause everyone has a +9 and there are waaaay too many +9s in the game, it should be harder, there shouldn't be the perfect items in store, etc? or shall we just bounce between "too many +9's" and "omg, i CHOSE TO SPEND $1000 enhancing 1 thing"

noone forces you to buy stuff, so why complain when you do buy it.

if i was an enhancer, and i had to buy 4 stacks of eyes/miles/nines and i wasn't even at +6 yet, i would stop there, i wouldn't carry on and make it 10 stacks just so i could complain.... like seriously, if it takes too many, why are you choosing to buy them? if it bothers you so much, why do it? noone forces anyone to ever buy stuff, as proven by the fact i've never enhnaced anything using cash shop items in my life of the game.

So when a person buys something, and tries to give feedback on it. (Just as the OP did.) Your saying he has no right to give negative feedback on it because he wasn't satisfied with his purchase?

You don't have a big understanding of business do you? All customer feedback is valued...whether it be positive or negative.

Wal-Mart doesn't tell their customers "Sorry that you don't like the lawn mower you just bought, tuff luck and go somewhere else customer because we don't give any refunds nor do we care that your not satified with your purchase".

Now tell me how exactly is that logical?

[bjzee1]

Take another look at this thread sweetheart, I'm pretty sure the negative outweights the positive.



Hi spooky, have you ever met reading comprehension?
Here let me introduce you:

Originally posted by me: When are people like this person gonna understand that it's not the "OMG RANDOMNESS" that pisses people off? It's the "RATE OF RANDOMNESS" that pisses poeple off.

Now notice the underlinings and boldings of certain words, add 2 and 2 together, then come back with a reply that actually doesn't look stupid. Thanks come again.




And where exactly do you get these statistics? Only a Few poeple? Umm no according to this thread it seems to be a majority. But if you have any data or charts to show us exactly how many do complain ingame and out then do so instead of going off on a rambling opinion.



Oh...so now it makes perfect sense to complain at some tipping point...so when it sounds logical to you... then everyone else must understand YOUR logic. Then it's all ok to complain. Sorry the real world doesn't evolve around YOUR logic.



So when a person buys something, and tries to give feedback on it. (Just as the OP did.) Your saying he has no right to give negative feedback on it because he wasn't satisfied with his purchase?

You don't have a big understanding of business do you? All customer feedback is valued...whether it be positive or negative.

Wal-Mart doesn't tell their customers "Sorry that you don't like the lawn mower you just bought, tuff luck and go somewhere else customer because we don't give any refunds nor do we care that your not satified with your purchase".

Now tell me how exactly is that logical?
You, Sir/Madam.... are about to get SpookyFlamed.
i would hide in a closet.
:)

[Icetra]

-facepalms-

SparkCash items will always be deemed as 'optional'. How some people see this game as a P2P game, when it's really a F2P, really...

You make the choice of wasting your money online. You choose to use it to make your gaming life more thrilling. Enhancements stones are that of gambling, only that it seems the fail rate is more damaged than the casinos.

I have a terrible losing streak, but to be honest, I can't complain to OutSpark, because I didn't have to buy the items. It's always going to be another side of the story. These comments may be just, but it will always be the same...

Buying SparkCash items are optional. OutSpark is not telling you to buy them, or pointing a dagger at your chest to force you. It is your own choice to waste your hard earned money to fund OutSpark, enhancing your equips.

If you don't like it, get out. Everyone here proves a point, and if you keep thinking it's some sort of randomness, then really...

I can look at the complaints, and 'points', and I can see them as right, because no one can win on this side, because no human isn't going to make you buy anything online.

All of us are allowed to give feedback, may it be positive or not, but people keep expecting that they WANT that action to happen, when the same reply is going to keep going back to their face over and over again. Can't you realize that? I would give my own feedback about those rates. Trust me, I hate them too, but I knew something was going to happen, despite my bad luck.

Point being. Your mother isn't telling you to buy SparkCash items, your accountant isn't, nor your father, teachers, staff, or w/e. Buy the stuff, or don't. It's all about choice.

-sighs- Furc isn't like this at all...

[Idnem]

All of us are allowed to give feedback, may it be positive or not, but people keep expecting that they WANT that action to happen, when the same reply is going to keep going back to their face over and over again. Can't you realize that? I would give my own feedback about those rates. Trust me, I hate them too, but I knew something was going to happen, despite my bad luck.

Glad I'm not alone, this was exactly what I was trying to get at.

[Idnem]

You, Sir/Madam.... are about to get SpookyFlamed.
i would hide in a closet.
:)

I think I'll stay where im at.
:)

[grummin]

And where exactly do you get these statistics? Only a Few poeple? Umm no according to this thread it seems to be a majority.

How many people out of the 4 million registered accounts are represented in this thread that you claim represents a majority? Do you even know what a majority is? Hint: it's more than half the total number, and I don't see 2 million people complaining here.

How about you come back with a reply that actually doesn't look stupid?
kthxbai

But if you have any data or charts to show us exactly how many do complain ingame and out then do so instead of going off on a rambling opinion.

I don't see your data or charts anywhere. I'm reminded of the phrase "The pot calling the kettle black."

You don't have a big understanding of business do you? All customer feedback is valued...whether it be positive or negative.

Riiiiiight...so apparently OutSpark doesn't have a big understanding of business.

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225386&highlight=landing+page

Note the options in the poll? "Like it, Like it alright, Like it but don't want to see it every time, No Opinion" Where's the option for this negative feedback they're so interested in? They don't have one.

Maybe you could offer them a lecture about how to run a business? And be sure to bring all your charts and data.

[Idnem]

How many people out of the 4 million registered accounts are represented in this thread that you claim represents a majority? Do you even know what a majority is? Hint: it's more than half the total number, and I don't see 2 million people complaining here.

And I don't see 4 million people reading and posting in this thread. SO by majority I mean the majority in this thread. :rolleyes:

How about you come back with a reply that actually doesn't look stupid?
kthxbai

Awww, so cute...using my own words.



I don't see your data or charts anywhere. I'm reminded of the phrase "The pot calling the kettle black."

I wasn't the one making claims that "few people" are complaining. Spooky was. So why should i show data or charts? Therefor I (the pot)wasn't calling the kettle anything.



Riiiiiight...so apparently OutSpark doesn't have a big understanding of business.

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=225386&highlight=landing+page

Note the options in the poll? "Like it, Like it alright, Like it but don't want to see it every time, No Opinion" Where's the option for this negative feedback they're so interested in? They don't have one.

Maybe you could offer them a lecture about how to run a business? And be sure to bring all your charts and data.

Don't think I said anywhere in this thread that "Outspark doesn't know how to run a business. You can correct me if I'm wrong.

Oh, and running a poll is alittle different then listening to feedback from customers. Just thought you should know.

[bjzee1]

Maybe you could offer them a lecture about how to run a business? And be sure to bring all your charts and data.

Owned.
(10char)

[Idnem]

Owned.
(10char)

I'm sorry is there something else you wanted to say to me?

That's twice you've came out of nowhere in a negative responce to me when I've done nothing to you.

[bjzee1]

I'm sorry is there something else you wanted to say to me?

That's twice you've came out of nowhere in a negative responce to me when I've done nothing to you.

I take both sides of this argument.
1. i think the success rate is WAYYY to low
2. i agree that you're not forced to buy these things.
I just laugh at how strongly arguments get heated in this game. would you like me to delete my posts? xD

[Idnem]

No don't delete your post. I was just curious is all.

Yes, most people do think that the success rate is too low from what I've read on these forums. I think so too. And no, noone thinks outspark is forcing people to buy sparkcash. heh.

[Shera1]

LOL, I just tell people to pay my electric bill.

Hahahahahahaha.. Never thought about that, great idea! I'll just post all my account numbers for my bills and those of you who wish to put your money to a more worthy cause can contribute. Sound good? I think so. :p

And, guess what, I will be able to post a much better success rate at lowering my bills and the subsequent interest balances than many may have at wasting money on enhancing.

Please help the needy.


We B Poe!

[Icetra]

I take both sides of this argument.
1. i think the success rate is WAYYY to low
2. i agree that you're not forced to buy these things.
I just laugh at how strongly arguments get heated in this game. would you like me to delete my posts? xD

I blame Furcadia. :/

I only argue if it's to only prove a valid point.

Sure, I waste money. On myself, and even on my charity thread, but again, you'll never see me complaining, because business is different online.

[tristram420]

:):):):):):)good reply u meh new hero idnem

[neko_play]

Where to even begin...

I just went to enhance my 90 BK with your "Perfect Enhancement Bundle" OS, only to find that I needed not five, not even ten, but FIFTEEN tries to get 3 F'ing levels :(. This Po'es me so bad I can't even describe it, but let's give it a try anyway, shall we?

First off, this is essentially false advertising, the bundle is nowhere near perfect and you know it. At least have the common decency to change the name to something like "Enhancement Bundle T4" or "Enhancement Bundle T3" :mad:

Secondly, I can understand 2, maybe 3 fails for this in ten tries, but I experienced over TWENTY FIVE failures in total, if you people think that's anywhere near acceptable, boy are you in for a rude awakening...

Quite frankly, you guys need to get the dollar signs out of your eyes, get your **** together and start making some improvements for a change, and by improvements I don't mean just for YOUR monetary benefit :mad: I am so so sick of crap like this I could throw up :mad:

Please please please for the love of all that is sacred, stop thinking about money, and start thinking about the players!

/end rant

Sincerely
~Po'ed Archer of Epith

also inb4 wallet jokes


This may have already been said, but since people are still posting here, I'm guessing it hasn't been...

The prefix "perfect", in perfect enhacement bundle, comes from the names of the stones it contains, which are perfect, while using them you can not break your in game item nor have it decrease.

While I am personally unsure of the exact percentages, fiestafan's are the only ones that I can find at this time.
You're enhancing a T4 item, which, even if gold nines adds 15% to the success rate of the enhancement, you would still be looking at less than 20% success. Now, you say you used 15 stones to get it to +3, but 25 fails total, so I'm assuming you did, infact, get it to +9. 34 stones total, unless you got your numbers wrong, to enhance an item with 20% or less success rate to +9, by all accounts you WERE lucky, because even if it had a success 20%, that should still take 45 tries, or 5 stacks.

Point being that you were lucky. 34 stones or 45 stones? I honestly don't know why you're complaining, it clearly states what you're buying in the item description.

[Roseanna]

And, guess what, I will be able to post a much better success rate at lowering my bills and the subsequent interest balances than many may have at wasting money on enhancing.

Please help the needy.


We B Poe!
*laughs* I would so yoink that to put it in my siggy, if it wouldn't make it too big... xD

[kshadow8030]

The business model of all F2P mmos is simple.

Make it were if you pay you get an advantage in game. The movers are one and so on. That is this games business model also. The problem with this business model is the fact that the price of the product outways its usefulness if you compare it to other items you can pay for.

Also the advice of not paying real world money on this game because it is F2P was a nice idea.

F2P fiesta with no income = closed fiesta and people playing a new game.

< Gets out can of Flame Away and waits for forum trolls >

[take.]

Strike two, OS.

Taking the Charm of Might out of the game and making Cookie charms only an hour, is such a stupid, and childish decision, and it is too retarded to describe with words. They want people to take more dmg and buy more of their overpriced crap.

They are going to lose tons and tons of players if they keep on this route, but hey, anything for a quick buck, right? They want people to buy more now, and it's extremely pathetic to be honest :) and very unbecoming of a game that's supposed to be "F2P"

Once i hit 100, i'm never making a purchase again :)

Sincerely
~PO'ed Archer of Epith

[drigr_x]

Wait, they altered charms??

Wel if they're truly out, then awesome. They finally did something a very large population has wnated them to do.

[take.]

No, they only took out Charm of Might and made Cookie Charms an hour. They really haven't done anything wanted by the players :P

[killer_pagan]

good thing I stocked up when they had that sale

[Rinsewind]

The rate changed... it used to take 3 stones- 4 at the most to take a t1 item from 0 to +3. the majority of the time it was only 3 stones. not any more- that was using the same pattern. time after time- t2 was basically the same pattern but with a slightly higher rate of failure- neither involved breakage... so they introduced randomness in the last month or so. if you want to use the cash shop stuff to try to reduce that randomness- lots of luck to you. you want a REAL challenge? run any class over 60 without cash shop enhancements of any kind- just what you get in-game.