The Way the game USED to be...

[Rinsewind]

This thread is for those who would like to share impressions on what has gone on with the game we've played for an extended period of time.

When I was introduced to the game after playing Maple Story, I liked it
because unlike Maple, there was no need to do quests like killing 999 mobs
at a time to level. true, the party system did not have the fun of collectively solving puzzles. the graphics were an improvement over maple and Outspark
was a lot faster at addressing issues- sometimes doing a patch in less than an hour compared to maple's being down for a day or so.

That first week on Teva, GM Steam's presence was notable - a whisper away.
there was a red beacon on the chat box so players could report problems-
if you encounted a chest in an unaccessable area - the GM would warp you to it.

later, through Apoline and Bijou, there were still a GM precence- level 50 was a big thing.. you needed an escort to reach Uruga- there were no dark passages then
as far as Player vs Player - only in guild wars and wars were only in the arena in Elderine- no spam killing - the guilds deciding which pair to war at a time.
no 'shroom killing, no killing just because you could. no warring outside of town. and guilds were able to allie with another-

[Rinsewind]

the maps were full of aggressive mobs, the quests were rewarding - for a players first quest one had to kill 10 each of slimes and mushrooms as well as 3 imps. the speedy slime were agro and getting thru 3 or 4 attacking at a time while hunting in tides added to the exp. later- the gang imps were also agro, and it was a good idea to tackle them in a party - peys quest for the fire mushrooms entailed 20 fire mushrooms and a fighter mushroom. using a vitality scroll was a good idea before doing these quests. If you were of a mood to take a level 3 to elderine- it was best to go into LS in mist and die into town.

[sora970]

Yup Thats Right And Now They Took The OLD Dances
Saying Its New And Make Peoeple Purchase Em....

And the So wonderful events.... now the events Are nothing.....
no spammers no scammers no noobs
And now so many noobs here they KS you
they scamm you and many much of nooby stuff
and i remember GM Dakkon!
Man he was nice
And they banned Him WHY? because His Being So Nice



EDIT: this aint my ORIGINAL account am here since Feb 2008 they banned me and idk why....

[Rinsewind]

in forest of mist- argo mobs were any breed of Boogy, phinoflys, phinos were agro if you were attacking a nearby phino - but the phinoflys did range attacks and at times you didn't know what had sent you back to rumen. getting to elderine without a scroll involved passing agro smart, joker and regular keblings.. you could do it if you knew the route and if you were lucky- another player would be engaging the mob blocking the path.

[sora970]

I Dont understand you


are you WITH the changes or AGAINST them?

[Rinsewind]

yes - the dances... dance parties in roumen on the fountain- vendors all up and down the street to the point going into hide helped getting from one end to the other :) else picking a zig-zag path thru the shops. it was so crowded with folks selling stuff- on the steps, near the smith, none of the whisper spammers you get now but folks peddling stones, pots, scrolls etc.

[ras-blackfire]

i think he misses the old times... not sure... xD
but i do miss the old times =o
KQ were more fun.... ppl were nicer... (now they just kill everyone they see =_=) and i can go on for long...

[Rinsewind]

I deplore the way the game has lost the concept of co-operation it encouraged back then- now it's every player for himself- the only announcements you see are for cash shop sales- it seems outspark is encouraging this by pushing player vs player events- a lot of folks were upset at the christmas event being in the FBZ- it was merry christmas- joy to the world ... now DIE! the maps are almost deserted of mobs- the gliches are not as severe as they used to be- but many have not been addressed.

[sora970]

Am Not Sure Eaither o.O

And Yea i miss the times when peoeple Were vendoring everywhere.
Not OUTSPARK ruined the game...

but its still good
i wish they dont turn it into a something else :/

[skysparkle]

it used to b an honor to b asked to join a guild there were no acadamies u could happily wander around guildless without gettin spammed invites guilds were selective in who they asked to join i stayed guildless till i was lvl45

and guild wars were conducted with hmmm manners i guess, u didnt shop kill/spawn kill/ spam kill low lvls it wasnt so much about the winning as having fun i remember most wars ended with everyone sittin atound chatting or taking it in turns to 1v1 with no one paying attention to the score

[s.shirokaze]

sigh...
the good times
when u didnt lose exp in abyss if u were pked...
when md hardcore was possible because everyone did their part
when clerics healed...
no tower...
(i am grateful for tower tho,i wouldnt hav lvled my cleric if it wasnt for the tower)
i remember the agro of those blue slimes....
they killed me a lot -.-
ahahah lol

and the GM presence!
that one reason was why i liked fiesta so much!
GM were actaully people, humans that were there for u...
now... well...
it aint like it used to be...

the only ones that look more human to me ar nekopon and straega lol

[lordalden]

I've been around for a while myself, however, you have to realize, no game remains the same from it's initial stages as it gets further into it's life. Reminiscing about the "Good times" is fine and all, don't get me wrong, but nothing stays the same forever when it comes to MMO gaming. There's a lot of factors that are quite quickly and easily forgotten when these types of comparisons and contrasts happen, so a little misinformation is given out when it comes to GM's interacting.

For instance. Back then, Outspark didn't have any other games to service(even in the OB/Commercial Release of Fiesta) for a little while, until they picked up Secret of the Solstice. Now they have SoS, ProPow, WS, Blackshot(?), and DGO. There hasn't been a super huge increase in the number of GM's(posting on the forums anyway) so you have to give way to the consideration that maybe a lot of time is spent not simple pleasing the members of Fiesta but all their games.

It'd be nice if everyone who did these comparisons and contrasts could take that into consideration, although I imagine that could be asking a bit much.

[ptollemy]

LOL I remember way back when Uruga was just trees and fields, everyone spent all day hugging, spark cash was given free by slimes and GM's logged on all the time every time to answer questions, plvl and gift +9's.......;)

The game hasn't changed much in reality. There have always been selfish tools playing. There have always been aggressive, rude nubs, (Bless em!). People will always moan about something. If the game were perfect they would moan that it was too perfect....:rolleyes:


It'd be nice if everyone who did these comparisons and contrasts could take that into consideration, although I imagine that could be asking a bit much.

I think this issue needs to be addressed. There is a constant stream of 'hold on', 'be patient' from OS and its employees. Take the Coin of Teva event, no new info, no reasons as to why we don't know the winners. It all stems from an attitude that we are players NOT customers. If a store promised me something on a certain date and didn't deliver, I wouldn't be fobbed off by a junior member of staff demanding that I be patient. I read somewhere recently that OS gets an average of $50 per customer. I don't know if that is weekly or in total but the sooner OS start viewing us as customers NOT players, then we will start getting the customer service that we are well within our rights to expect. The excuse that OS has expanded and are therefore short of staff is just woefull. If a company chooses to expand then it should plan its expansion to ensure that this does not happen.

Ps, This isnt a dig at you Alden. You do a stand up job on here. Thanks.

[Rinsewind]

I just had an experiance that really got my dander up- I made a cleric recently on Cypion.. a level 11, I decided to do king slime 1... at one time, you needed a stopwatch to time when to get in, and usually lucky to get in at C- here it is, only 9 people while all others B through H are open.. no one in- click on the KQ and it CLEARLY states limited to levels 5 ~ 16 ( a fact I knew from countless characters not being able to enter after attaining lvl 17. So i try to form a party while waiting for KQ- one char states is an 18 mage after i party him- so i un-party him from my past experiance of no chars over 16 entering KQ... guess what- they changed the rules.. but not the level requirements- wish they'd done it when my guys were 17 and still needed the king and queen.

[Rinsewind]

As to the gist of this thread... It was intended to give a glimpse of how the game USED to be. I could compare the beggers on maple going "mesos please" to the sad, incompetent players who actually NEED to be power leveled to 20. and the buffoons
who can't step out of town without pleading for a buff. but that's not why i began this thread.

[GM_Nekopon]

I think this issue needs to be addressed. There is a constant stream of 'hold on', 'be patient' from OS and its employees. Take the Coin of Teva event, no new info, no reasons as to why we don't know the winners.

While I can't tell you reason, I can tell you we've been working on it since the last hiccup. I'm not sure what other info that I can give you or that you'd want.

[ptollemy]

As to the gist of this thread... It was intended to give a glimpse of how the game USED to be. I could compare the beggers on maple going "mesos please" to the sad, incompetent players who actually NEED to be power leveled to 20. and the buffoons
who can't step out of town without pleading for a buff. but that's not why i began this thread.

Ohhh sorry if I went off topic with my mini rant.

Well the game used to have fewer players,(customers!). Other than that not much has changed at all really....

[ptollemy]

While I can't tell you reason, I can tell you we've been working on it since the last hiccup. I'm not sure what other info that I can give you or that you'd want.

Hi Neko ty for the fast reply,(Your a star:D). All we are asking for is communication. We dont want to know the ins and outs of day to day life at OS. We are all human here,( well apart from Astronub) and we can all be reasonable but we were told that a thing would happen and it didnt. All we ask is that someone comes on here and explains what has gone on and what you are going to do about it.

Thanks

[Rinsewind]

why were the maps nerfed? remember sand hill when it was introduced? (yes i still see level 5x folks seeking the npc in swamp of dawn) one encountered the wolves and chickens at the entrance of the camp.. you actually had to hunt for desert mushrooms-
now... wolves are in clumps as are the mushies- there are vast empty areas where mobs used to be. you used to be able to scroll back to rumen from secret hideout - this is an improvement???

[keleios]

I miss lv. 50 being something to be proud of.
Also, the overall attitudes of the community were more respectful and helpful.
Sparkcash prices weren't insane.
Leveling was an actual challenge.
Better parties, and useful players.

*sulks*

[Plushii]

*sigh* good old times

[roxas2222]

I miss lv. 50 being something to be proud of.
Also, the overall attitudes of the community were more respectful and helpful.
Sparkcash prices weren't insane.
Leveling was an actual challenge.
Better parties, and useful players.

*sulks*

Hell Yea
The Minion Costume Was Like 700SC OMG!

And Now They Are Raising Prices little by little

If You Noticed The Boop Set Was Like 700SC And Now Its 800SC Its Actully 795 But Doesnt Really Make Any Diffrent

I MISS OLD DAYS!!!!!!!!!!

[drigr_x]

I think when the boop was on 700sc it was on sale >.>

Something I remember from when I started was people didn't ASK to be put on your block list >.> If I tell someoen to stop spam shouting they just say "Well you don't wanna hear it, block me." Block lists used to be for gold spammers, people that cuss you out, or people that did something bad to you. now its like, "I'm on your block list? PFFT! WHATEVER!"

[kshadow8030]

I have not been playing long on fiesta myself. I have read this thread ( every post ) and mostly what I see is not a problem with the game itself but the community. I wish I had played this game at the time you are talking about. The things about this game I do not like is exactly the things people in this thread has said has changed.

People are just plain rude to each other. KSers could care less if they KS because they do not fear punishment. KQs are mostly a fail due to players only thinking of themself and no one else or not knowing how to use there build even in spidey. This is one of the very few games that a n00b / lamer player can be at or close to level cap. A n00b is a person that does something so lame ( like KSing, not using skills when in party, and calling people names because it is to hard for them to be nice ) that no one playing the mmo would do it if they know better. This game has alot of high level n00b.

Ok people has stated what is wrong with fiesta a lot lately. Now lets see what people think will fix these problems. If you ask me the community is broken ( not everyone but it does not take many bad apples you know ). How do we fix this problem?

[quietlyloud]

I'm new but from the people I have ran into on my server apoline, the people seem very nice. I have played a lot of games where people were rude and would kill you just because you were a low level, or because you weren't in there guild.

Nobody has tried to kill me yet and I got invited to a guild at a low level, and they seem very helpful. I just think if you compare this game to others that I have played, the community seems to me very good. Just a perspective from a new player.

[Rinsewind]

For instance. Back then, Outspark didn't have any other games to service(even in the OB/Commercial Release of Fiesta) for a little while, until they picked up Secret of the Solstice. Now they have SoS, ProPow, WS, Blackshot(?), and DGO. There hasn't been a super huge increase in the number of GM's(posting on the forums anyway) so you have to give way to the consideration that maybe a lot of time is spent not simple pleasing the members of Fiesta but all their games.

It'd be nice if everyone who did these comparisons and contrasts could take that into consideration, although I imagine that could be asking a bit much.

True - but management might have asked itself if there were sufficent personnel to cover these other games and still maintain the quality of this one?

[LaMarya]

It does make a difference what server you are on. Some are still fairly civilized. Unfortunately Cypion in particular seems to be a bit overrun by the less mature, less considerate.. downright rude types. Yes I have met some very nice folks there... but I also have had encounters with people who would have been at the very least jailed for their actions and speech in the early days of the game.

I realize there are other games being handled by Outspark. Fine for them. But with the income from our cash shop, the solstice cash shop, the windslayer cash shop.... (those are the only ones I have experience with)... I would think they could afford enough staff to give proper coverage to all their games rather than spreading them so thin they can't handle even minor grievances. I don't blame the GM's ... they are only human. I blame the management who can't be bothered to hire and keep sufficient people to handle all their games at the same time. It is counterproductive to build a player base in one game and then tell them they are on their own because there's a newer game that has to be seen to. From my (admittedly limited) experience on SoS and Windslayer, they have their own share of troubles and each would benefit from full time GM presence as much as Fiesta would. Time for Outspark to spend some of its earnings and give the players better service.

(yes, I have been playing since beta. Also tried the other games. All I can see is a company that keeps expanding without adding enough personel. It doesn't work in day to day real life, and it is not a good business practice.)

[lordalden]

True - but management might have asked itself if there were sufficent personnel to cover these other games and still maintain the quality of this one?

Personnel requires money, and one game alone can't float salary ships. The fact that "earnings" is flouted so freely on the forums is proof enough as it is: If I recall one of such findings stated that they had yet to go completely in the profit zone, which could mean a lack of funding and a need for multiple sources of revenue was more necessary than going in the hole more with additional personnel.

That's my take on it though from my opinion, it has no bearing on my being a CL or any of that, and nor does my saying this necessarily reflect the opinions nor outlooks of Outspark or it's employee's.

Simply saying this in longer terms: You're looking at the matter as far too black and white. This is a business and they are putting forth a complex service. Labelling it prematurely tends to have very inaccurate results.

[kshadow8030]

I have seen some games come out with Jr. GMs. A Jr. GM has limited power ( mute for 24 hours and ban for 24 hours ) and was not aloud to play a char on the server they worked as a Jr. GM on. They did not abuse there power because anything they did could be reviewed by a GM at any time. Jr. GMs donated there time to police a game they loved and funny enough KSers, Ghost Spammers, and all the abuse dried up fast. Having someone able to ban a Ghost Spammer for 24 hours then ban the new account as soon as it was made kind of limits there options lol.

Basicly without a police force in game crime ( abuse of others, scamming and so on ) will only get worse.

[kshadow8030]

Personnel requires money, and one game alone can't float salary ships. The fact that "earnings" is flouted so freely on the forums is proof enough as it is: If I recall one of such findings stated that they had yet to go completely in the profit zone, which could mean a lack of funding and a need for multiple sources of revenue was more necessary than going in the hole more with additional personnel.

That's my take on it though from my opinion, it has no bearing on my being a CL or any of that, and nor does my saying this necessarily reflect the opinions nor outlooks of Outspark or it's employee's.

Simply saying this in longer terms: You're looking at the matter as far too black and white. This is a business and they are putting forth a complex service. Labelling it prematurely tends to have very inaccurate results.

Your right this is a business and as a basic business model customer satisfaction should be the key to this business. A happy customer spends money plain and simple.

This game is a product just like any other. It may say free to play but they sell SCs so it is a product as soon as you buy SCs. I played a game were there this kind of abuse kept going on and in the end all was left was the abusers and the game closed. Abusers may buy SCs but they don't make up for the 100s of people that would have payed for SCs and played this game but left because of the abuse.

The bottom line is this.

1 abuser buys $200 of SCs a month so they can be a god on fiesta.

50 people he abused would have payed at the lowest $25 each that month just starting out if they had not been abused.

The math is kind of simple and has been done over and over in other MMOs. You make more money when more people are happy not just a small few.

I just hope someone higher up does the math before this games has a two week 50% off sale then one week later is no more.

[lordalden]

I have seen some games come out with Jr. GMs. A Jr. GM has limited power ( mute for 24 hours and ban for 24 hours ) and was not aloud to play a char on the server they worked as a Jr. GM on. They did not abuse there power because anything they did could be reviewed by a GM at any time. Jr. GMs donated there time to police a game they loved and funny enough KSers, Ghost Spammers, and all the abuse dried up fast. Having someone able to ban a Ghost Spammer for 24 hours then ban the new account as soon as it was made kind of limits there options lol.

Basicly without a police force in game crime ( abuse of others, scamming and so on ) will only get worse.

Fiesta has tried this before with the GL's, however, to my knowledge(which may be wrong), this was abused and so the project was, as far as I know, abandoned. It is one of the things I continually wish to see implemented again though and I think in the right hands it could be a powerful force of 'good'.

Your right this is a business and as a basic business model customer satisfaction should be the key to this business. A happy customer spends money plain and simple.

This game is a product just like any other. It may say free to play but they sell SCs so it is a product as soon as you buy SCs. I played a game were there this kind of abuse kept going on and in the end all was left was the abusers and the game closed. Abusers may buy SCs but they don't make up for the 100s of people that would have payed for SCs and played this game but left because of the abuse.

The bottom line is this.

1 abuser buys $200 of SCs a month so they can be a god on fiesta.

50 people he abused would have payed at the lowest $25 each that month just starting out if they had not been abused.

The math is kind of simple and has been done over and over in other MMOs. You make more money when more people are happy not just a small few.

I just hope someone higher up does the math before this games has a two week 50% off sale then one week later is no more.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. I can't necessarily account for when and how it happens. I know a lot of forms of the word "abuse" are thrown around fairly carelessly without some users knowing the rules. That's one thing.

Another thing, is I can't necessarily say I know that people aren't talked to. I've addressed this previously, but nothing stops someone from telling a complete lie about punishments or the like. That's something that no one can account for without standing behind in real life, the person in question.

I agree that a happy customer is one willing to spend money(as bad as that sounds to me to say), however I have to ask myself if the term "abuse" is being used properly, if the "abuser" is actually punished or not, and thirdly if these individuals aren't putting themselves in harms way like say at the Abyss and claiming their getting PKed was unjust.

I like to think I'm trying to consider all sides when thinking on these matters and reporting feedback, because mutual understanding is needed when I report player feedback about things like this. I don't like the idea of being unfair to anyone, Outspark, or the Community, and I'm not going to try to short change either side if I can help it.

[ShonenHero]

Souls dwelling in the past... grabbing onto what no longer exists...

Fixated ghosts they become! It is my job as a Shaman to exorcise them!

[neko_play]

Souls dwelling in the past... grabbing onto what no longer exists...

Fixated ghosts they become! It is my job as a Shaman to exorcise them!

...Good luck with that, by my count you have...an ever increasing amount of ghosts to exorcise.

[jstbackaway]

OMG dont forget they gave out free beauty shop coupons (there was only basic coupon then) and i had a pretty crown too but meh account on teva got banned by snake eyes while Dakkon actually didnt bann me after like 6 warnings (literally 6)

[Takimi]

it used to b an honor to b asked to join a guild there were no acadamies u could happily wander around guildless without gettin spammed invites guilds were selective in who they asked to join i stayed guildless till i was lvl45

and guild wars were conducted with hmmm manners i guess, u didnt shop kill/spawn kill/ spam kill low lvls it wasnt so much about the winning as having fun i remember most wars ended with everyone sittin atound chatting or taking it in turns to 1v1 with no one paying attention to the score

I remember way back, one of the most exclusive guilds was BlackRose... the lowest level they would take was 30- and that was a big deal.

Now... meh...

All you have to do is walk around guildless and you'll get an invite.

[sk8r_dude]

Why Can't everything be easier.......?

[tatsuki101]

from a post way earlier about lower sc prices...

http://store.outspark.com/fiesta/item/10040
http://store.outspark.com/fiesta/item/10043
http://store.outspark.com/fiesta/item/10046
http://store.outspark.com/fiesta/item/10049
http://store.outspark.com/fiesta/item/10029
http://store.outspark.com/fiesta/item/10016

for sure.

[Rinsewind]

lets face it - you can see outspark cares more about raking in the money more than customer satisfaction- greed killed the origional chinese version of fiesta - all they are doing is repeating history- there is very little call for cash shop enhancements at the lower levels - so make it so easy to gain levels to the point where cash shop enhancements are required. a comotose idiot can get from lvl 1 to 30 in a week or so between feedings. but once at the high level- without enhancing- how long between levels? how long to gain the multi-million experiance points to make 1 level? a level 85 loses like 600k xp each death- how long to regain ?
meanwhile - sooth the feathers by offering pretty costumes- want nice weapon skins? sure - but you'll need repair skins periodically to keep those skins- want a nice fast mount? - sure- but it will cost you to feed it when it runs down. and this practice is repeated on the other games. oh- you liked these dances that were free? well- can't have that.. replace them with junk and rent the ones you liked back to you-
got a yellow exclaimation point over your head? click here to permenently disable it- oops- we're not sure about the meaning of permanent.
bothered by goldspammers - giving them you custom is againt our terms of service.. never mind just block them.. but we'll encourage them by not doing anything to ban them from interfering with game play. oh look here- our players are so experianced now - they shout for revive in burning hill.. no co-ordinates mind you, maybe we should make the revive map wide so that clerics can just click on the name and revive em. or have a warp-to-corpse spell - ANY character that has gained enough experiance to reach Burning Hill should know better - but too many just do the power-level route and learn nothing about game play... big rush to use the crap they bought from the cash shop.

[Rinsewind]

ah yass- speaking of banning- late autumn 2007- my lvl 14 was in slime kq- back then,
every once in awhile there were item drops in slime KQ- you know, the kq that USED to be restricted to levels 5~16... anyhow- picked up a 2h zwihander.. a lvl 40 weapon was not unusual to find in kq at the time.. pets were also found occasionally. getting into kq was tricky- there was no advanced warning, once the clock ticked over- if you were slow or there was lag- you weren't in that kq. anyhow sold the zwi for 65s a princely sum at the time. however, it was way more than i usually had in my account- next time i tried to access, i found that i had been banned- suspicion of violating the ToS- after an appeal, i was re-instated.. but to those who say they were banned for no reason-
check the ToS. many of the ppl you meet in kq's these days are rude and inconsiderate. if they percieve that you are a noob who cannot wear lvl 6 armor- even though they know what mobs you need - they will take them even if they don't need em. in the early days i could do all 3 parts of slime and be level 15 at the finish. once in awhile if i went in at lvl 5 and had good parties - be done at 12. those days are gone.

[Dethsdie]

i remember that to when u was in kq u got a lot of drops even in honey u could get minipets, in think in those times the drops rates was more high u could get a decent armor just doing quest now is miracle if u get something crappy, recently i made a noob
and try slime but i saw a lvl12 doing pt (he even knows how to play) and kick a lvl5 just for be a lower than him and called noob i think i miss those days too since then u can help and be help it without problems now also charges for help, the other thing
when u was in pt grinding the usual was put seq that way all got something, the team work or if anyone gots a green of other class just trade and give it to him

now all are free even that way the clerics dont get nothing because is behind doing his job the rs is not free and even if the cleric do a good job only recieves a ty for pt

the events XD i remember the lag but was fun stay in kill the boss event
find the gm, and others yeah the quest someone said about coupon and crown was the chocolates event

now to find the gm u need have a specific sc item to get something good or at least decent the old server was laggy but not as the new

not bad remember those times at least was fun and less problems than now

[The-Sakura]

I miss the old times. I enjoy creaking my bones at the new players =) Especially when they have complaints.

Ahh, it's good to look back and remember.

[kazu001]

Man...I remember when I had first joined this game back in 2007. My friend invited me from another MMO that was relied on cash shop items to be the best, along with every player thinking of only themselves. When I first started playing, I was surprised to see that the in-game community was nice and lvling was fun and challenging. It taught me a lot of things at those early lvls that helped me throughout the course of my playing. However, by the time I hit the high 20s my computer was damaged and I couldn't play for a long time. By the time I had gotten back on around march this year, I had hoped that things were still good. Imagine my surprise...>.>

As I continued to lvl when I got back, more and more players became rude and greedy and it was hard to get by unless you were able to buy items with sc. Things ended up as a smaller version of the last MMO Luckily I found people that are nice and use old morals that the majority of players USED to have, but I still miss those wonderful times.v.v

[vandaluske]

Fiesta pretty much like everything else in life has fallen down the crapper.

Why pay $50+ a Month (Usual xp Card, Teva, Ext, Crit suit) when you can pay JUST 15 bucks for a game that offers much more.

Really If just think about it for a sec.
Do you really Enjoy playing Fiesta Online?
Are you Actually Having ''Fun'' most of the time?
Or has the game became as a Daily routine that its just part of your life?

[pabloking]

Lol I moved from SoS, (outspark game too) because the sc made a big difference among players, to Fiesta because in those times it did not require sc to lvl. Everything fine until they started raising the cap. They realized that people were not buying too much sc stuff because it was possible to even cap without it so in this cap they decided to make it merely only for sc players. There were not so many high lv noobs either because everyone proved somehow that by lvling old school (mostly abyss and the few quests you had) you were a good player, there were only a few people bugging others but it was a minority. The environment was quite nice, despite those spammers welcoming you and filling your chat box with spam which did not even let you chat. Now, you are 'pro' (high lv noob term) if you buy loads of sc and noob if you dont buy, or simply not as much as them. The more sc you buy and the more you spend time doing epic grind, the more pro you are, that's their logic. In simple words, I moved from a game which required irl money to another game which requires now even more irl money (and with also more jerks) than the previous one.