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kemo_sabe
09-30-2009, 04:12 PM
What are the real ups and downs of each class. Is one more likely to pwn a 100+mage? Which is better looking? Which is Better PVP? Which is better Solo? Which is just better? and if u know or not. lvl 120 which is better GLAD OR KNIGHT? <~~ glad looks more sexy.

alex-cy
09-30-2009, 04:27 PM
We don't know about level 120 tho.

kemo_sabe
09-30-2009, 04:36 PM
=/ lame. USE google. It tells u everything u would want to know=D. But comments on what class would be better and reasons. Not dumb comments. I want a Good reason, some thought behind the process, tactits, ideas, builds, and over-all benifits.

agitation
09-30-2009, 06:12 PM
But OS changes some things o.o
so everything you find on google, may not be brought here.

Best bet is to find a p-server and test, but doubt there are any..

pirishjr
10-01-2009, 01:12 PM
:C i say knight cause spencer is knight. :D hk hass buff ~.~ ty greg and crit buff <3 greg no more heal upgrade gtfo my bead greg. lmao. and watever class waizard isnt gonna be ^^.
gotta problamo D:? take it up wif me z.z sweetreviver

thechaz
10-01-2009, 01:27 PM
tbh it all depends on how u party, cause i duo with my wifey all the time and im an archer kiting all over the place and being pure str she is going hk (also she is str so she can kill pvp kq to XD). if u have a mage fighter duo i would say its adviserble to go knight same with archer fighter duo if u are cleric fighter duo i would say go glad BUT be careful how u chose what class you are going for weight up all empowerments you will use on each skill befor u chose. but for people who want to tank using full parties use knight and if u are a soloer i would go glad or a knight 2h user

asianman1
10-01-2009, 02:37 PM
how about chosing the one that seems more fun to u......it is a game after all.....lol

mistertears
10-01-2009, 03:33 PM
Obviously the knight has a better chance against a wizard/warlock than a gladiator. The knight gets a dex/spr boost whereas the gladiator gets a str/end boost. PVP? Probably the gladiator overall; the knight is built to counter mages and archers. Solo? Gladiator, axe/2h vs 1h+shield solo'ing. Both classes have their ups and downs, but we can't really say which is the better class until another cap raise.

In my opinion, the gladiator looks like a caveman. Also, since you're an end freak, I think you kind of cookie-cut yourself a knight. You can try an end based gladiator and have everyone laugh at you.

Roseanna
10-01-2009, 04:13 PM
To the people who are talking guardian vs. holy knight, read a lil closer... this is about gladiator vs. knight. :p

Bueawa
10-01-2009, 04:16 PM
Chose after your build ofc -.-, you can't be full STR and chose Knight if you ARE stayingfull str. Glad's are for Solo, Knights are for Pty. Glad's are DD's Knight's are Tanks. Can't really compare them. Knight endures longer, Glad's kill faster.

zephyr_wind
10-01-2009, 04:40 PM
Chose after your build ofc -.-, you can't be full STR and chose Knight if you ARE stayingfull str. Glad's are for Solo, Knights are for Pty. Glad's are DD's Knight's are Tanks. Can't really compare them. Knight endures longer, Glad's kill faster.

I don't agree with this. Knight in my guild is 50 DEX rest STR and he tanks just fine, better than many fighters I know actually. Knights still get to use 2h's which are DD weapons. As much as people like to call them fail they still deal decent damage and are faster than axes.

DemonBlitzKragor
10-01-2009, 07:09 PM
Chose after your build ofc -.-, you can't be full STR and chose Knight if you ARE stayingfull str. Glad's are for Solo, Knights are for Pty. Glad's are DD's Knight's are Tanks. Can't really compare them. Knight endures longer, Glad's kill faster.

Not fully after your build. You can easily be a DD built knight or a tank built glad. Just depends how you work with it and make it excel.

Bueawa
10-02-2009, 07:03 AM
Well, won't work so well ;P

kemo_sabe
10-02-2009, 05:45 PM
Well im Pure Str with all gears 40+End +9nd also. Im thinking Knight because i could use the Dex and Spr bonus. But the Glad is a pure DD so even with +9 gears i would still tank but have fail aim and that could cause death. So i stack more str on me and some end. or Go for Dex and Spr to pwn some mages. and still deal a SHIZ load of damage.

kemo_sabe
10-05-2009, 02:41 PM
WEll i need some more input. I NEED TO KNOW. Granted Glads get more moves but knights Get more DEX/SRP Hmm. I NEED INFO. Everyone tell me what class and why. Baised on your own personal opinion.

alex-cy
10-05-2009, 02:46 PM
I'll go for Knightator. Since I am a switching-weap char.

DemonBlitzKragor
10-05-2009, 02:58 PM
I'll go for Knightator. Since I am a switching-weap char.

Same thing for me. (:

kemo_sabe
10-05-2009, 04:49 PM
Well thats a great idea. And dont copy my Tactics DBK =/ lol jk. Yea we still get to use 1h and 2h as Knight but the loss of the axe is gonna kill me T_T just gonna have to get a uber goldy STR/END/DEX 2h to make up for the damage But thx for the in-put.

So the Score is
Knight 3
Glad 7

DemonBlitzKragor
10-05-2009, 04:52 PM
Just get a hellgait axe and use it? You just can't use 100+ axes.

Kyo_Sama
10-05-2009, 05:06 PM
In my opinion, the gladiator looks like a caveman. Also, since you're an end freak, I think you kind of cookie-cut yourself a knight. You can try an end based gladiator and have everyone laugh at you.

not necessarily, Im going gingerbread and going full end glad. Str + end boost.

If i was full str i would have gone knight for sheer pvp hilariousness. Dex / Spr boost + the right gear with that build given its skill set makes it a wicked force.

kemo_sabe
10-05-2009, 06:29 PM
WEll I agree with the Awsome power of the Knight Pure str. And i agree it would Own all who dare face me. Then again there will be a lot of lvl 105s by then and they will charm just like everyother person who thinks there good only becauese of how much money they can afford to waste. But It saddens me that The Axe will be bye-bye. But I suppose i can make due with a godly 1h and 2h. and DBK where do u expect me to get a HG axe? and one with good stats? U think they just fall form the sky or someone is going to give me one for less then 1,000,000,000,000,000 gems??? I wish. But if u want Lets go farm Helga and i can get first drop and u the second one. XD But Thank you for the info. I agree a HG Axe will be the same damage as a lvl 100axe. C= and would be Uber pwanage with Knight.

Sooooooo. Hmmmm. Keep going.

Uber Knight all +9nd Pure str vs Uber Glad all +9nd Pure str

DemonBlitzKragor
10-05-2009, 07:02 PM
Mhm yea, and if you can't get a hg axe, you my as well try for a bkr. Both hard, but with some determination, planing, and the right links, you may be able to get your hands on one sometime in the future. xD

asianman1
10-05-2009, 07:58 PM
u guys do know this is a game....he can chose whatever he wants to chose.....ur build doesnt matter if u dont hav fun...

DemonBlitzKragor
10-05-2009, 08:22 PM
Lol i know jie. o-o

Marck
10-06-2009, 02:59 AM
Obviously the knight has a better chance against a wizard/warlock than a gladiator. The knight gets a dex/spr boost whereas the gladiator gets a str/end boost. PVP? Probably the gladiator overall; the knight is built to counter mages and archers. Solo? Gladiator, axe/2h vs 1h+shield solo'ing. Both classes have their ups and downs, but we can't really say which is the better class until another cap raise.

In my opinion, the gladiator looks like a caveman. Also, since you're an end freak, I think you kind of cookie-cut yourself a knight. You can try an end based gladiator and have everyone laugh at you.

i'm knight and boost been in str/def.... not in dex/spr
probably is gladiator get that kind of boost? no idea thought.... but i had my build window open to see where i got boost.... and for knight u get increased str and def! gladiator get boost hp, dex i think

mistertears
10-06-2009, 09:19 AM
A pure str knight is a fail build imo. If you're going to be using a 1/h and shield most of the time, you might as well have some end in your build to take advantage of the extra block rate.

Kyo_Sama
10-06-2009, 11:00 AM
A pure str knight is a fail build imo. If you're going to be using a 1/h and shield most of the time, you might as well have some end in your build to take advantage of the extra block rate.

You dont need to block if your going to evade. That is all.

kemo_sabe
10-06-2009, 11:32 AM
Lmao. Mistertears How is it a fail build?? with pure str the sheild will add more def to my character. More def means longer tanking and with a 1h i wont have fail damage. And Im sure im not the only one to notice this but round lvl 85~90 fighters get a boost in Eva. Im blocking and evading 10times more then i did at lvl 80. ANd ther is no dex in my build.

Darkness- Thank you for the info. U positive that knights dont get the dex/spr boost? and Im kinda looking forward to the new armor. But still no axe is gonna be lame. So im gonna have to focus on pting alot......... unless i get a uber godly 2h then ill solo again.


DBK- I agree if i cant get a HG axe then a BKR is gonna be sooooooo easy to get. ANd im pretty sure by the time i hit cap the HG weps are gonna be common just like lvl 70 blues. But for right now its expensive cuz theres a monopoly held by HVG,DA,LL but when my guild finally starts farming HG then its gonna be easy to get a HG wep. Just more people need to go to the raid.


Another story i heard was that HVG stole a HG drop from another guild. The other guild was farming it and the HVG showed up and Waited for the kill. Then said thank you for the drop and walked off. How true is that?

But other then that point back to the topic. So far some good info. Granted this game is for fun but still We only get 1 chance to make the fight class with our original main. Its not like i have 2 fighters that i can make a glad and knight. More facts plz.

I need info on moves for classes also.

SteiN
10-06-2009, 12:31 PM
Kemo all I got to say is Violence for Gladiator is niceeeeee def one of my favorite skills in the game.

kemo_sabe
10-06-2009, 12:42 PM
Lol I know its awsome. Only thing i can see is a problem is Knights only get 2moves and Glads get 1,000,000 moves. =/ dosent seem fair.

kemo_sabe
10-06-2009, 12:52 PM
And i did some research on the Korean Fiesta. So far. Glads and Knights there is a huge difference between them. What i cant find is do knights get any more moves or not really. If so then thats gonna be lame. Ill just go 90str,20end, rest dex Glad. Then when cap rises ill just gonna put all stats into dex

DemonBlitzKragor
10-06-2009, 12:56 PM
Check again, knights get more than two moves last i checked, and glads only get a few more newer moves for their 2hnd capabilites. :x

kemo_sabe
10-06-2009, 01:13 PM
well they get more mocks but i havent really seen any new moves. tell me them

DemonBlitzKragor
10-06-2009, 01:53 PM
I'd honestly have to go to AR to check.

kemo_sabe
10-06-2009, 03:35 PM
I did the other day and they get Dicharge or what ever and they get another Mock and Demorlz. But as for a attack just 1

mistertears
10-06-2009, 08:10 PM
Lmao. Mistertears How is it a fail build?? with pure str the sheild will add more def to my character. More def means longer tanking and with a 1h i wont have fail damage. And Im sure im not the only one to notice this but round lvl 85~90 fighters get a boost in Eva. Im blocking and evading 10times more then i did at lvl 80. ANd ther is no dex in my build.

When we are talking about tanking, str is good for keep aggro longer. It makes no sense to go full str if you're going to use a 1h/shield most of the time. Great, you'll deal decent damage and you'll have more defense, but you forgot about shield block rate. Why do some people use a level 70 blue shield until level 90 instead of a level 80 shield? shield block rate. The extra defense from the shield is minuscule compared to completely blocking an attack; the shield is great for mdef though.

BTW, the evasion boost is from level 95 purples, there is no major evasion boost between 85-90.

kemo_sabe
10-07-2009, 09:49 AM
...str is good for keep aggro longer.....Great, you'll deal decent damage and you'll have more defense.......the shield is great for mdef though

Sounds Contradicting to me. U give props and then try to destroy the idea of Str Knight. Knights Will get the mocks, added eva, spr, nullify. SO u tell me WIth what i got out of your quote. This seems to be the best idea.

mistertears
10-07-2009, 12:27 PM
You seem to be forgetting the point of a knight. The knight is the ultimate tank class, not damage dealing class. The idea of a str knight defeats the purpose of that class since you are trying to be something that you are not, a damage dealer. Why wouldn't you want to maximize your efficiency in tanking if you're going to be a knight? You can kick every 15-20 seconds and retain aggro with an end build. I certainly wouldn't make a gladiator to tank, so why would I purposefully make a knight and try to be something that I am not? This is just my two cents, but in the end it's entirely up to you.

kemo_sabe
10-07-2009, 02:26 PM
I understand somewhat. But u forget. The whole point is to make the BEST. Granted knights are for tanking and Glads are for DD. But Im trying to make a well rounded all over fighter. A DD's shadow is Knight and a Tank's shadow is Glad. Let me put it this way. IF u go Pure end then u stack on that being a Knight. U would be a fail soloer. The only way to lvl is to be in a pt. Might as well be a Pure end cleric soloer. And if u go Pure str Glad then granted u can kill anyone, then again anyone can kill u do to fail end. So by mixing the Pure str with Knight abilities Im hopeing to Make a Notiable Fighter So i can deal damage, aggor, mock, tank, and everything else. SO far i havent had any troubles Tanking any Boss or Kq Boss. Either way u look at it. If your tank Your gonna have a cleric on u at all times. So if my end is low just means the clerics heal is gonna work better. Then i wont worrie about someone out damageing and taking aggor and i can mock to keep the Lil Mages Alive. To me its a Great Idea. But Do u have a Knight or Glad?

karvaj
10-07-2009, 02:28 PM
you have time anyhows, your 8x?

kemo_sabe
10-07-2009, 02:36 PM
Yea 87 with 80% XD

kemo_sabe
10-07-2009, 02:36 PM
But still Need to plan and start saving Stats for New Moves for lvl 100 and need to put free stats in the right place to be a Effictive killing force.

sparky_69
10-08-2009, 11:14 AM
I'm str/end. Knight or Glad? 8P

kemo_sabe
10-08-2009, 12:05 PM
Hmmm. Good Mix Sparky. For U i would say . . . .

asianman1
10-08-2009, 02:28 PM
i'd go glad just for the axe 8D
but im a mage :C......-goes warlock