An idea......

[sething]

ok so i was thinkin about how 9x sucks....to just grind the whole time....
i mean you can tolerate getting to 100 on your main or whatever right? but then you pretty much never want to do it again(yeah there is someone with 2 10x chars he doesnt count =P) and everyone wants 9x repeats right? i got what i think is a great idea....

make 9x repeats but make them in the 9x abyss =O

that way everyone would flock to the 9x abyss to do their quests....and it would just turn into a GIANT rumble.....epic right?

[drigr_x]

And have everyone complain that so and so PKd them while they were questing... Good luck..

Better yet.. Have 9x repts that say "Kill xx amount of people"

[sething]

And have everyone complain that so and so PKd them while they were questing... Good luck..

Better yet.. Have 9x repts that say "Kill xx amount of people"

yeah people always complain about getting killed....but a lot more people complain about the lack of quests/repeats....so i guess we can give those people something else to complain about =D

idk, i guess my point is the 9x abyss is always empty and grinding gets boring pretty fast, so i guess kill two birds with one stone?

[drigr_x]

If you PUSH people into the abyss with that being their only place for repeat quests there will be a LOT more drama... and I bet a LOT less leveling will get done because its "Kill (monster) but (Person A) is already killing (Monster). (Person B) kills (person A). (Person A) comes back and kills (Person B) and finishes off (monster). (Person B) has a hissy fit and declares war on (Person A's Guild). (Person A's guild) gets back at (Person B) by vend/spawn killing (Person B's Guild)."

[sething]

If you PUSH people into the abyss with that being their only place for repeat quests there will be a LOT more drama... and I bet a LOT less leveling will get done because its "Kill (monster) but (Person A) is already killing (Monster). (Person B) kills (person A). (Person A) comes back and kills (Person B) and finishes off (monster)"

now picture that happening but with two parties! or more!
sounds fun doesnt it? its like warring but with an actual incentive...you level...eventually

[Linabella]

omg epic!! i love it <3!

(i just want 9x repeats, idc who i have to kill to get them <.<)

[drigr_x]

I picture a LOT of exp loss. I take it you've never been abyss PK'd before have you?

[sething]

omg epic!! i love it <3!

(i just want 9x repeats, idc who i have to kill to get them <.<)

thats the spirit!

I picture a LOT of exp loss. I take it you've never been abyss PK'd before have you?

sure i have.....but thats like minimal compared to dying from a monster

[drigr_x]

Why not just GRIND in 9x on your own?

[sir.larsson]

Its a nice idea but the worst spot that you could come with!!! Why not a place in AR or SoD instead alot better, that way ppl dont have to get killed and lose a big amount of xp after a while, maybe make a special place where you only can get in if you have a pt and start quest in there like a Instance/dungeon not the same principals but that you need a pt to get in to this certain map and be able to do your repeat quest. Sounds litle better then being in abyss i say :P

[sething]

Why not just GRIND in 9x on your own?

?
its not about grinding in 9x...its about having a good incentive to pvp....and giving repeats for 9x is a REALLY good incentive.

[sir.larsson]

i will still vote NO for this sounds really bad and it will be a mass of Drama ESPCIALLY on apoline lol

[drigr_x]

So questing is now an incentive to pvp? That's new... Especially since there is incentive to PvP every 4 hours...

[sething]

Its a nice idea but the worst spot that you could come with!!! Why not a place in AR or SoD instead alot better, that way ppl dont have to get killed and lose a big amount of xp after a while, maybe make a special place where you only can get in if you have a pt and start quest in there like a Instance/dungeon not the same principals but that you need a pt to get in to this certain map and be able to do your repeat quest. Sounds litle better then being in abyss i say :P

yeah an instance pvp would be very fun....or this concept in SoD or AR would probably be the most ideal places for this to happen. but i guess i chose 9x because 1) everyone knows its pvp enabled so it shouldnt be a big shock. 2) its a enclosed location so only people who WANTED to go in would go in....

[drigr_x]

You actually covered up that you wanted more peopel to pvp with an idea for a 9x repeat... sly fox.

[sir.larsson]

yeah an instance pvp would be very fun....or this concept in SoD or AR would probably be the most ideal places for this to happen. but i guess i chose 9x because 1) everyone knows its pvp enabled so it shouldnt be a big shock. 2) its a enclosed location so only people who WANTED to go in would go in....

Hehehe she maybe wants more drama :P

[sething]

You actually covered up that you wanted more peopel to pvp with an idea for a 9x repeat... sly fox.

ding ding ding!
we have a winner!

yeah there is pvpkq, but its once every 4 hours, and limited to 15 people....this would be 24/7 and bring in SOOOO many people....and yeah there would be TONS AND TONS of drama...on all servers....

prices for godly gear would skyrocket, the pot and scroll market would get a big boost...teva, cookie packs and charms would sell like crazy, and a lot more people would be hitting 100 faster....so the cap raise might come sooner?

[drigr_x]

People would NOT lvl. they would be too busy fighting! If you want 24/7 PvP join Epith and spam war AZUMI, Leg, S9, and Sp3c

[sir.larsson]

She wants drama for sure im 100% sure ;D

[sething]

She wants drama for sure im 100% sure ;D

im a guy,
and its not that i want drama....i want bloodshed >=D

[Linabella]

Why not just GRIND in 9x on your own?

have you got to 9x yet? ._. and even if.. try soloing it as a mage with no exp boost..or even with a boost its just as hard .. only a couple grinding areas and in a full party exp sucks ( im 50% boosted and only get 6% every 2 hours when i cookie in a duo in one of the main 90-95 grinding spots )

So questing is now an incentive to pvp? That's new... Especially since there is incentive to PvP every 4 hours...

i'd do anything for 9x quests xD i really would.. and the pvp KQ is for 95+ so what to do for lvls 90-95 D:

[drigr_x]

PvP in this game leads to drama... Go take a gander at the PvP Sub-Forum. Its so bad that Staff/CLs hardly touch it... (At least they didn't before I stopped bothing with reading it)

[beastphantomz]

no!!!! I hate pking!!!!

[sething]

PvP in this game leads to drama... Go take a gander at the PvP Sub-Forum. Its so bad that Staff/CLs hardly touch it... (At least they didn't before I stopped bothing with reading it)

thats okay, ALL online multiplayer games have drama...forums lead to drama too! lets lock all the posts, then there will be no more drama!


no!!!! I hate pking!!!!




loooooooool

[drigr_x]

Or we can NOT, ADD to the problem?

[sething]

Or we can NOT, ADD to the problem?

i think with a little self control, and objectivity we can eradicate drama in game AND add plenty of pvp....

[sir.larsson]

Or we can NOT, ADD to the problem?

I agree lol close the thread it wont happend ;)

[drigr_x]

haha... Self control... Fiesta? You MUST be joking... Make a lvl 20 and go to 20 abyss and see how much self control people have...

[sething]

haha... Self control... Fiesta? You MUST be joking... Make a lvl 20 and go to 20 abyss and see how much self control people have...

maybe they should have a repeat in there too =O
great idea! (stay on topic, kthnxbai)

[drigr_x]

The topic in you OP was a cover to make more PvP. And hence, while talking about the 20 abyss I was on topic.

Back to my point about self control... Do you REALY think all those lvl 36 abyss PKers would let people go in there to do a repeat? I think it would give them MORE of a "reason" to PK.

[sir.larsson]

Yea i agree drigr and more ppl will get temporarly banned or perm banned of all the drama, it was a nice idea but on a bad place! ;)

[drigr_x]

The idea WAS to be in that place so the OP could have her PvP fun...

[sething]

The topic in you OP was a cover to make more PvP. And hence, while talking about the 20 abyss I was on topic.

Back to my point about self control... Do you REALY think all those lvl 36 abyss PKers would let people go in there to do a repeat? I think it would give them MORE of a "reason" to PK.

i never said you were off topic, i was merely giving a friendly reminder to all, so this lovely cornucopia of priceless input can thrive...

no i dont think there needs to be a repeat for 2x i was joking. those 2x are having fun in their own way. but for 9x yeah sure, and house it in the 9x abyss! epic right?

[drigr_x]

*gives up* PKers never listen...

[sir.larsson]

once a PKer always a PKER!!! out of 19 ppl 13 voted for NO so it wont happen ;)

[Linabella]

lmao, it wouldnt happen even if everyone agreed :P OS would lose money if there was any kind of repeat Dx even in a abyss.. and wow o.o calm down drigr .. lmao..do you even HAVE a 9x character and know how hard it is to lvl? xD you know how many people would love a repeat even if it was in the abyss? XD ..and i think it'd be fun to actually be able to fight for the spot without getting banned =O would also keep the 2-3 9x grinding areas open for people who dont want the pvp madness

[drigr_x]

I have a few 9x guildies. And all of them seem to understand that it shouldn't be easy to reach the new cap... As all the 9xs seem to think it should be...

[Linabella]

not talking about repeats all the way to the cap o.o just a couple 9x repeats so we dont have to be 100% boosted from 95-100 have an extender,teva, stone carrier, cookies, etc xD you'd understand more if you were actually 9x ._. but looks like your only..6x? x.x how could you possibly understand..

i'd even love repeats that give 1.5% like red nixies for 88-90 <3 because 1.5% for me is 30 mins of a cookie .-. and i cant afford to many cookies lol

[Neko-san]

Why would you want to make it an easier to be high leveled? With so many high level noobs, isn't grinding through the high levels instead of having them handed to you the kind of thing we want to separate the good players from the noobs? Personally, I think exp rewards from quests should, if anything, be lowered. There's too many people who don't know how to play their class. I've actually talked to a 6x fighter that didn't know what mock is. I believe it should be a challenge to get to the high levels, not something anyone can accomplish.

As for pvping, do it differently. Repeat quests in abyss would, as other people have metioned, cause a lot of drama. For instance, pretend you're soloing in the 9x abyss, trying to do these quests peacefully. You're not charmed, but the party that just killed you while you were busy killing mobs is. So you lose your questing spot, exp, and any scrolls you were using. Sucks, huh? Now add in some guild wars, constant pking at the gate, some flamers and it's even worse.

lmao..do you even HAVE a 9x character and know how hard it is to lvl? xD you know how many people would love a repeat even if it was in the abyss? XD

Like I said, it should be hard to level when you're so close to capping. Fiesta players strike me as incredibly lazy, they always want everything handed to them instead of working hard till they actually deserve it.


..and i think it'd be fun to actually be able to fight for the spot without getting banned =O

Without getting banned? That statement only hold trues if no one flames or harasses other people for the spots. I've spent enough time PKing to know that people aren't going to be happy when they get PK'd and lose their spots. And when people aren't happy, they tend to want to do something about it. Like guild wars. Which brings a lot more people into the problem and lowers the chance of people being nice to each other.

would also keep the 2-3 9x grinding areas open for people who dont want the pvp madness

This is true. The "2-3 9x grinding areas" could be used by the players who can't handle pvping without flaming. Unfortunately, I don't see the flamers being able to understand that.

[Linabella]

its not easier if its 1-2% repeats xD but by all means <3 remove those horrible 10-15% repeats that all those 5x/6x/7x people have! i think thats a splendid idea o.o

and its not handed to you if you have to fight for it <3 eventually only the strong will do quests and the weaker will have to grind without the stronger taking their spots just because they have a powerful guild name

[Neko-san]

its not easier if its 1-2% repeats xD

If it's things you were killing anyway, then it is easier if it's 1-2% repeats.


and its not handed to you if you have to fight for it <3 eventually only the strong will do quests and the weaker will have to grind without the stronger taking their spots just because they have a powerful guild name

Unfortunately, the "strong" people are just the people who spent real money on the game. The "weaker" will likely complain about OS being money hungry if something like this happens.

but by all means <3 remove those horrible 10-15% repeats that all those 5x/6x/7x people have! i think thats a splendid idea o.o

YES. PLEASE. People should not be able to level so quickly, and without knowledge of the game.


By the way, I'm not 9x, so I don't know the exp rates in different spots, so if someone would like to offer an estimate on exp per hour in abyss versus exp per hour in other popular 9x grinding spots, I'd be very thankful.

EDITED MY LAST POST, BY THE WAY. GO READ IT. :3

[MindSlash]

OS: "Putting 9x reaps quests? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL nah..we will lose money "

for short. . . thats not gonna happen :3 .Os barely hears player sugeestions :D

[Neko-san]

OS: "Putting 9x reaps quests? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL nah..we will lose money "

for short. . . thats not gonna happen :3 .Os barely hears player sugeestions :D

OS barely hears player suggestions? Uhm. OP in this thread is "an edited copy/paste" from something Silkypico said: http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227534
Granted I don't know how much of it is Silky, and how much of it is edited, it still shows GMs care.

[sething]

i think some of you are missing the point.....
this isnt about levelling to 100 any faster,
it could take twice as long to level even with repeats
its about adding an incentive for pvp
and adding some more fun into the game

actually spark cash purchases i think would skyrocket with this method
and i would actually be a lot happier to cookie like crazy if i was killing people AND monsters, instead of just monsters....

[Neko-san]

i think some of you are missing the point.....
this isnt about levelling to 100 any faster,


There is a chance that the idea you proposed would make leveling to 100 faster. That's why people keep talking about it.


its about adding an incentive for pvp
and adding some more fun into the game


I do not believe this is the correct way to add incentive for fun pvping, though. It seems more likely to cause drama than anything else. It's a good idea in theory, if you don't add in the fact that people cause so much drama in abyss, but people do. Therefor, this idea will not work.


actually spark cash purchases i think would skyrocket with this method
and i would actually be a lot happier to cookie like crazy if i was killing people AND monsters, instead of just monsters....

You're probably right about that. But if there's always buffed up people questing in the abyss, then unless you're buffed up enough to beat them, and their party(if they're in one) or guild(if they war), then you'll be better of questing somewhere else.

[Linabella]

Like I said, it should be hard to level when you're so close to capping. Fiesta players strike me as incredibly lazy, they always want everything handed to them instead of working hard till they actually deserve it.



Without getting banned? That statement only hold trues if no one flames or harasses other people for the spots. I've spent enough time PKing to know that people aren't going to be happy when they get PK'd and lose their spots. And when people aren't happy, they tend to want to do something about it. Like guild wars. Which brings a lot more people into the problem and lowers the chance of people being nice to each other.



This is true. The "2-3 9x grinding areas" could be used by the players who can't handle pvping without flaming. Unfortunately, I don't see the flamers being able to understand that.

1. 100 is close to capping x_x not 9x lol
2. not even half the people who flame for getting killed get banned xD because everyone flames .-. about everything


If it's things you were killing anyway, then it is easier if it's 1-2% repeats.



Unfortunately, the "strong" people are just the people who spent real money on the game. The "weaker" will likely complain about OS being money hungry if something like this happens.



YES. PLEASE. People should not be able to level so quickly, and without knowledge of the game.


By the way, I'm not 9x, so I don't know the exp rates in different spots, so if someone would like to offer an estimate on exp per hour in abyss versus exp per hour in other popular 9x grinding spots, I'd be very thankful.

1. the abyss exp sucks .. theres not enough mobs in there :/ i've never wasted time grinding in there except once when i got 2% while lvl 91 in 2 hours..
2. people already complain about OS being money hungry :rolleyes:
4. get to 9x then you'll want any type of repeats

[Neko-san]

1. 100 is close to capping x_x not 9x lol
2. not even half the people who flame for getting killed get banned xD because everyone flames .-. about everything
1. 9x is close to capping. It's just not as close as 100. Any levels that have been added since the last cap raise are considered "close" to capping to me.
2. It's still a bannable offense, considering most, if not all, flaming involves cheating your way through the filters.


1. the abyss exp sucks .. theres not enough mobs in there :/ i've never wasted time grinding in there except once when i got 2% while lvl 91 in 2 hours..
2. people already complain about OS being money hungry :rolleyes:
4. get to 9x then you'll want any type of repeats

1. I see. I still want an exp per hour estimate for both, though. It would be a lot more helpful. D:
2. And we shouldn't give them any more reasons to complain. OS shouldn't continue making people think they're money hungry just because they already do.
4. How about repeats that give low percentages of exp for killing mobs that people would be grinding on anyway? You still get your repeats while avoiding abyss drama.

By the way, you skipped 3. O:

[Linabella]

1. I see. I still want an exp per hour estimate for both, though. It would be a lot more helpful. D:
2. And we shouldn't give them any more reasons to complain. OS shouldn't continue making people think they're money hungry just because they already do.
4. How about repeats that give low percentages of exp for killing mobs that people would be grinding on anyway? You still get your repeats while avoiding abyss drama.

By the way, you skipped 3. O:

1. JUST for you when i get to 95 ill tell you xD
2. OS IS money hungry D: everyone knows it ._. made 9x impossible without sc lol
3. my numbers are to the number of paragraphs, so me skipping a paragraph means i also skipped a number xD and i was also half asleep and grinding while i wrote it (and pretty mad that i only got 4% in 2 hours soloing so that added onto my anger of the way OS only has like 3 quests per lvl for 9x's and no repeats) .. (actually 1 quest for 94 .-. all the quests give 1-2%)

[Dthugtherealist]

I don't understand how everybody is flaming the 9x's for telling you like it is............... I know people in Bijou they work hard to get to 9x you gotta deal with drama because of Pvp all the time. The number 1 guild in our server would probably move outta the Tos boss room and free it up for people to lvl faster yea there is one place were one person gave me a estimate of 10-20% in 1-2 hrs. of full out grinding charmed in a duo. None of us 9x are asking for a lvl every day were asking for a lvl at least every weak.

[Linabella]

I don't understand how everybody is flaming the 9x's for telling you like it is............... I know people in Bijou they work hard to get to 9x you gotta deal with drama because of Pvp all the time. The number 1 guild in our server would probably move outta the Tos boss room and free it up for people to lvl faster yea there is one place were one person gave me a estimate of 10-20% in 1-2 hrs. of full out grinding charmed in a duo. None of us 9x are asking for a lvl every day were asking for a lvl at least every weak.

ive never grinded in there..your right when you say our "top guild" is always in it..and would prolly go if this idea was to go through lol xD i really want that exp your talking of T_T i'd be a happy person

[Dthugtherealist]

lol too bad I can't say names but the person thats told me this has been there and trained there I know we can work things out if the top guild left that room but then again which guild will take over that room? and would they share it?

[Linabella]

i know a couple that would take over and no..they wouldnt share .-. so..we're screwed :D

[Dthugtherealist]

haha yea well you can always slip into that guild for 1 week and hit 100 :D

[sir.larsson]

[QUOTE=Linabella;2736798]its not easier if its 1-2% repeats xD but by all means <3 remove those horrible 10-15% repeats that all those 5x/6x/7x people have! i think thats a splendid idea o.o

1. there is no such repeat quest on 5x it is V_Bats but thats the first lvl out of 3.
2. On 6x its only 1 quest like that and that the spore quest at lvl 62 a quest that can take up to hours with bad luck! with luck you might be done in 30 mins bu its not many ppl who got that kind of luck.
3. on 7x its the lizardman knight quest that gives 8% in reward.
4. Have even any of you guys thought of this!? When it comes a easy challange like from the lvls 77-84 everyone is so happy, then on 84 85 they get a repeat that gives 1.3m xp and get so dissapointed that put em to a new task, and starts complaning on how long time it takes to lvl up. That often makes many ppl stop play for a long time and just go to hmmm let say for a example the Free Battle Zones, after that u have spent time in a fbz for some few days you start to think, "man i could had levled once or twice these days that i just have been doing nothing then complaning.

What im trying to say is that the easy lvls/good giving repeats puts many ppl on a test litle later on to see if they can handle that situation! And i know many ppl that gives up and starts a new character will then after do that lvl easyier then the first time you tried, you will be able to know how to plan your levling much better and save up quests for some certain lvls.
Me for a example i got my own litle levling guide from lvl 50-92 thats been working really good for me so far, and im really happy with it:p

[alicina]

It would be a fun idea if you don't lose any exp in abyss.
But yeah, like a lot of people have stated, this will cause plenty of drama. There is a possibility that people will buy more things from the CS but I presonally think a lot of people will quit due to so much drama. I mean seriously, I'd quit if it were like that. And so then, the sales will go down, OS won't have enough money to keep the game running and Fiesta will just die. Fun. ._.?

[Orchids_Mantis]

[QUOTE=Linabella;2736798]its not easier if its 1-2% repeats xD but by all means <3 remove those horrible 10-15% repeats that all those 5x/6x/7x people have! i think thats a splendid idea o.o

1. there is no such repeat quest on 5x it is V_Bats but thats the first lvl out of 3.
2. On 6x its only 1 quest like that and that the spore quest at lvl 62 a quest that can take up to hours with bad luck! with luck you might be done in 30 mins bu its not many ppl who got that kind of luck.
3. on 7x its the lizardman knight quest that gives 8% in reward.
4. Have even any of you guys thought of this!? When it comes a easy challange like from the lvls 77-84 everyone is so happy, then on 84 85 they get a repeat that gives 1.3m xp and get so dissapointed that put em to a new task, and starts complaning on how long time it takes to lvl up. That often makes many ppl stop play for a long time and just go to hmmm let say for a example the Free Battle Zones, after that u have spent time in a fbz for some few days you start to think, "man i could had levled once or twice these days that i just have been doing nothing then complaning.

What im trying to say is that the easy lvls/good giving repeats puts many ppl on a test litle later on to see if they can handle that situation! And i know many ppl that gives up and starts a new character will then after do that lvl easyier then the first time you tried, you will be able to know how to plan your levling much better and save up quests for some certain lvls.
Me for a example i got my own litle levling guide from lvl 50-92 thats been working really good for me so far, and im really happy with it:p

I think you forgot the Greenky repeat for 65-67 and the lizzardman repeat after it (though I avoid that one like the plague myself)

[sir.larsson]

Yes lizard i forgot and no way in freakish hell greenky gives 10-15% if it would do that i would do greenky repeats, wich i dont cuz its a booring quest to do alone when u got pt its always ppl there and greenky gives 5-6% xp the other % is made by the grinding wich gives around 1.5%-2% :P

[Linabella]

1. there is no such repeat quest on 5x it is V_Bats but thats the first lvl out of 3.
2. On 6x its only 1 quest like that and that the spore quest at lvl 62 a quest that can take up to hours with bad luck! with luck you might be done in 30 mins bu its not many ppl who got that kind of luck.
3. on 7x its the lizardman knight quest that gives 8% in reward.
4. Have even any of you guys thought of this!? When it comes a easy challange like from the lvls 77-84 everyone is so happy, then on 84 85 they get a repeat that gives 1.3m xp and get so dissapointed that put em to a new task, and starts complaning on how long time it takes to lvl up. That often makes many ppl stop play for a long time and just go to hmmm let say for a example the Free Battle Zones, after that u have spent time in a fbz for some few days you start to think, "man i could had levled once or twice these days that i just have been doing nothing then complaning.

What im trying to say is that the easy lvls/good giving repeats puts many ppl on a test litle later on to see if they can handle that situation! And i know many ppl that gives up and starts a new character will then after do that lvl easyier then the first time you tried, you will be able to know how to plan your levling much better and save up quests for some certain lvls.
Me for a example i got my own litle levling guide from lvl 50-92 thats been working really good for me so far, and im really happy with it:p

i was exaggerating the percentage..pretty much saying that 5x/6x gets more repeats then they should... theres only 3..maybe 4 (cuz lvl 57 repeat is bugged i think) lvls in 5x that are repeats and give almost 8-12% .. (examples: lvl 51 weakened orges, lvl 52 king colls, lvl 53-54 vampire bats and vivies, lvl 55 prisoners, lvl 57 (suppose to be) senior torturers)

for 6x? theres king and queen spiders from 60-61, 62-63 is king mushrooms, 65-66 is greenkies, and 68 is lizardmen PLUS you have a quest that gives you 61% into lvl 69 if you saved it ..)

and 7x is harder till 77 .. but theres navars at 71 .. and then 77-79 is lizardmen claws which give 11-12% everytime

[Myn19]

Better yet.. Have 9x repts that say "Kill xx amount of people"

Yes,please >:3

EDIT:You know,this would be quite a nice incentive for ppl to pvp at any lvl really.
Say kill 10 ppl and you get the amount of exp you would've lost if you died 5 times,lol.

[SweetLavender]

repeats in abyss? why abyss?

repeats in SoD or AR makes more sense to me but do you really want to do another 10 levels of repeats? why not just add more quests and a repeat here and there like level 80-?

what you're trying to get at I'm guessing is by having repeats there you get, good exp and easy money making from it while also doing a quest over and over again

[librachan]

YES. PLEASE. People should not be able to level so quickly, and without knowledge of the game.

*points at Tower of Iyzel*

There arent many of us who lvled all the way up without tower any more QQ *feels old*
xDDD

[Dthugtherealist]

*points at Tower of Iyzel*

There arent many of us who lvled all the way up without tower any more QQ *feels old*
xDDD

I like the old feeling it makes me feel accomplished :D

[KungFuHobo]

ok so i was thinkin about how 9x sucks....to just grind the whole time....
i mean you can tolerate getting to 100 on your main or whatever right? but then you pretty much never want to do it again(yeah there is someone with 2 10x chars he doesnt count =P) and everyone wants 9x repeats right? i got what i think is a great idea....

make 9x repeats but make them in the 9x abyss =O

that way everyone would flock to the 9x abyss to do their quests....and it would just turn into a GIANT rumble.....epic right?

No.

I want quests in fbz first.

[sething]

No.

I want quests in fbz first.

nah having it in FBZ would be toooo easy
but probably the most fun quest ever =P

[Dthugtherealist]

shiz kill 50 people in FBZ damn for 10% sounds fun as hell and easy

[Myn19]

shiz kill 50 people in FBZ damn for 10% sounds fun as hell and easy

You can get a friend to put a lvl 1 there >>''.The developers have to be braindead to do this o_o''
That and the fact that you don't lose anything anyway so practicly all you have to do is take turns at killing each other lol.

[Dthugtherealist]

You can get a friend to put a lvl 1 there >>''.The developers have to be braindead to do this o_o''
That and the fact that you don't lose anything anyway so practicly all you have to do is take turns at killing each other lol.

lol yea was just messing around would be too easy rofl

[tronkeee]

You can get a friend to put a lvl 1 there >>''.The developers have to be braindead to do this o_o''
That and the fact that you don't lose anything anyway so practicly all you have to do is take turns at killing each other lol.

that would be fun.. imagine all the 9x in there taking turns to kill each other xDDD

[Cherushi]

Ahh, so much pessimism! o.O I also see very interesting OFFTOPIC comments that just had to be posted publicly... weird.

Anyways, the idea doesn't sound bad. Honestly after you lvl to 7x onwards, I find myself missing abyss grinding. It was fun and it was rewarding (exp and items). You get occasional drama but if you can move past that, it's really fun.

I think the intention behind the idea is to put an incentive again into grinding to 7x and above abyss. A simple solution is what I prefer. I think they should just add mobs in those abyss. See the big difference to the number of mobs in lower and higher level abyss? What's the point of the big maps with few mobs anyway?

For the designers in game, I don't see any problem adding mobs to 7x,8x, 9x abyss. The exp and drops are good but without mobs to grind, eh, what to do, stare and dance there?

I dunno if it is because of the repeats in 8x that they got this brilliant idea of nerfing abyss, but there are like 2 aspects in Fiesta. PVE and PVP, for those pvp lovers, grinding in abyss is hell lot fun, for those pve types the quests are perfect.

So, if any GMs are reading this, uhm the abyss are empty, means players don't find it useful to grind there. What's the point of having these features then? :3 I hope a word from game designers about this issue can be released.

What else, isn't it more money for OS if there are more mobs, because after all abyss grinding is SC costly. I really do suggest you do something about it. It will give players something else to do at 9x. It's like prolly 2 more spots to grind on besides the usual spots people are fighting over at the moment.

[sething]

Ahh, so much pessimism! o.O I also see very interesting OFFTOPIC comments that just had to be posted publicly... weird.

Anyways, the idea doesn't sound bad. Honestly after you lvl to 7x onwards, I find myself missing abyss grinding. It was fun and it was rewarding (exp and items). You get occasional drama but if you can move past that, it's really fun.

I think the intention behind the idea is to put an incentive again into grinding to 7x and above abyss. A simple solution is what I prefer. I think they should just add mobs in those abyss. See the big difference to the number of mobs in lower and higher level abyss? What's the point of the big maps with few mobs anyway?

For the designers in game, I don't see any problem adding mobs to 7x,8x, 9x abyss. The exp and drops are good but without mobs to grind, eh, what to do, stare and dance there?

I dunno if it is because of the repeats in 8x that they got this brilliant idea of nerfing abyss, but there are like 2 aspects in Fiesta. PVE and PVP, for those pvp lovers, grinding in abyss is hell lot fun, for those pve types the quests are perfect.

So, if any GMs are reading this, uhm the abyss are empty, means players don't find it useful to grind there. What's the point of having these features then? :3 I hope a word from game designers about this issue can be released.

What else, isn't it more money for OS if there are more mobs, because after all abyss grinding is SC costly. I really do suggest you do something about it. It will give players something else to do at 9x. It's like prolly 2 more spots to grind on besides the usual spots people are fighting over at the moment.

if there were as many laplans in 9x as there are orcs in 6x i would die of happiness.....

[Icetra]

Myself haven't achieved 9x, but here's my opinion.

I'm against it, but at the same time I approved of it. Only because of the fact, well...not many people don't enjoy Player Killing, and it does cause a source of drama...

But it IS a challenge to be a higher level. o.o

[sething]

Myself haven't achieved 9x, but here's my opinion.

I'm against it, but at the same time I approved of it. Only because of the fact, well...not many people don't enjoy Player Killing, and it does cause a source of drama...

But it IS a challenge to be a higher level. o.o

well its not like people would HAVE to go in there,
there are plenty of places to go....but this would make the 9x abyss a non stop war arena for everyone....

[darthnish]

hey this idea sounds a lot like this game that came out on sep 22nd.

[sething]

hey this idea sounds a lot like this game that came out on sep 22nd.

lol....it kinda does doesnt it?

[lenore_lurks]

Well at least people would use that map if this was introduced. At that level, most players have BOT, too, so death isn't so much of an issue (just a few ego's would be crushed, rofl). And yeah, you wouldn't have to do such quests, they would be entirely optional just like every other quest in this game.

It's an interesting idea :)

[darthnish]

lol....it kinda does doesnt it?

you should play that game instead, for me its proven to be waay better.

[sething]

you should play that game instead, for me its proven to be waay better.

everyone keeps telling me that, but im not completely done with this game...
...a lot of players have been leaving due to "that" game...
but i think fiesta has a lot more life left in it, and if they implemented a better pvp incentive i think a lot of players would come back....

everyone is so caught up in the drama, or potential of drama, that the game becomes one of walking on eggshells....yeah there is many ways to play this game, but i feel like people want to eradicate pvp entirely because apparently its REALLY OFFENSIVE to kill someone whos name is red....

[Dthugtherealist]

everyone keeps telling me that, but im not completely done with this game...
...a lot of players have been leaving due to "that" game...
but i think fiesta has a lot more life left in it, and if they implemented a better pvp incentive i think a lot of players would come back....

everyone is so caught up in the drama, or potential of drama, that the game becomes one of walking on eggshells....yeah there is many ways to play this game, but i feel like people want to eradicate pvp entirely because apparently its REALLY OFFENSIVE to kill someone whos name is red....

Hmmmmmm yea I like this game cuz of the social aspect in a lot of ways it has gotten dull and boring but its still fun to have fun with others. As for Pvp I don't want it eradicated I want it done right like a lvl 20 shoudn't get killed by a 36 or lvl 70 shoudn't get killed by a 86 and so on an so forth. Its not pvp to one hit nubs it is pvp to call out someone in a fight and have a fair fight.

FBZ I don't give a damn what you do to me lol 10 mages could snipe me at once from like 20 feet away cuz its FBZ if you don't like fighting don't go in there. Imma say this about comparisons yea AION cuz yes I know your talking bout AION may be better but there is no other community like Fiesta if all people can get after 2 yrs. of playing a game making friends and what not is Im gonna go play a "better game" you've missed the point.

[kemo_sabe]

I see. Hmm. well I love the abyss. And i agree that A Fair fight would be fun. But when was the last time U fought someone with no Extenders, Crit suits, or Scrolls? Its hard to come by that now. 2 years ago when i started playing it was rare to have a SC player. with extenders or charms or suit. Thats when the abyss was fun and the lvl cap was in abyss 20-29, 30-39, 40-49, 50-59 and so on. Then u couldnt really complain about a unfair fight. But its really really sad.... I miss how fiesta used to be T_T

[darthnish]

Hmmmmmm yea I like this game cuz of the social aspect in a lot of ways it has gotten dull and boring but its still fun to have fun with others. As for Pvp I don't want it eradicated I want it done right like a lvl 20 shoudn't get killed by a 36 or lvl 70 shoudn't get killed by a 86 and so on an so forth. Its not pvp to one hit nubs it is pvp to call out someone in a fight and have a fair fight.

FBZ I don't give a damn what you do to me lol 10 mages could snipe me at once from like 20 feet away cuz its FBZ if you don't like fighting don't go in there. Imma say this about comparisons yea AION cuz yes I know your talking bout AION may be better but there is no other community like Fiesta if all people can get after 2 yrs. of playing a game making friends and what not is Im gonna go play a "better game" you've missed the point.

the reason we didnt use the name of the game is ause its agasint the ToS to do so. Also ill give fiesta credit for being fun but it lacks class balance.

[Linabella]

that other game fails D: like 60$ to try it and 15 a month to keep playing ._. fail if you cant afford 60$ right off the bat.. i get some sc when i get like 10-20$ every couple weeks .-. i dont have 60$ to go and spend on a game just to try it when i might not even like it

i love the fiesta community and the friendships i have <3 i'm glad a lot of my friends didnt go to that game.. cuz i'd prolly never hear from them again x.x

on topic: i'd hope they would add some more quests or repeats x.x idc how hard they are or how much exp they give.. just get me away from this grinding Dx its so hard soloing as a mage x_x

[darthnish]

its 50$ actually.

[Linabella]

i looked it up o.o the site i seen said 60.. and

omggggggggggg 10$ less its SOOOO MUCH CHEAPER!! OK! ill go buy it right now cuz 10$ less is so much cheaper O.O

[Dthugtherealist]

srry post got duped

[Dthugtherealist]

the reason we didnt use the name of the game is ause its agasint the ToS to do so. Also ill give fiesta credit for being fun but it lacks class balance.

Yea I know I also heard the melee class sux in that game and the forums are a ghost town O.O I disagree about the class balance thing it is balanced to some degree at 100 unless you just flat out fail (no Im not talking bout you I just mean in general don't get offended xD) The only reason I came out and said the name cuz yea people know which game ure talking bout.

[sething]

Hmmmmmm yea I like this game cuz of the social aspect in a lot of ways it has gotten dull and boring but its still fun to have fun with others.

i 100% agree with you, and this is somewhat why i made this thread
A LOT of my friends have left fiesta completely for some other game, which is a major bummer.....and i think that was somewhat of a hidden agenda behind this thread. by bringing an incentive to 9x players to not only pvp, but to level up while having a good time beating everyone senseless...sure there are many non pvp aspects to the game, and for the most part those are fine...but i think pvp could use some sort of boost...

[drigr_x]

Million dollar question... Why do you care about PvP? It "generally" causes a lot of drama, and it can make the players that get killed really dislike you/your guild.

I know this because there is this "Mage" that PKs a LOT on my server in 60 abyss... She'll kill you no matter where you are, if youre mobbed or not, and then just waltz on by... Any of my guilds members that have gone into that abyss have been killed by her at LEAST once... Its took two 7x fighters with +9 weaps and I believe charms to take her down... And I still dislike her guild because of her. The drama off of ONE person who is a PKer...

[sething]

Million dollar question... Why do you care about PvP? It "generally" causes a lot of drama, and it can make the players that get killed really dislike you/your guild.

I know this because there is this "Mage" that PKs a LOT on my server in 60 abyss... She'll kill you no matter where you are, if youre mobbed or not, and then just waltz on by... Any of my guilds members that have gone into that abyss have been killed by her at LEAST once... Its took two 7x fighters with +9 weaps and I believe charms to take her down... And I still dislike her guild because of her. The drama off of ONE person who is a PKer...

OMG LOL

so because you get killed in a pvp zone by someone having fun and playing the game how it was meant to be played, and you instantly label their actions as drama? who is truly the victim in this situation?

pvp is one of the many aspects of this game, regardless of your feelings towards this part of the game, it will always exist. i would really advise you, and your guildies, to stay away from the abyss, fbz...and change your guild to non warring. and continue having fun playing this game pvp free!

[drigr_x]

Its not pvp when a charmed +9 mage kills you in 2 hits while you've got 50+ orcs following you... Mind you, I'm all for a PvP fight. Thats why I join the KQs. But when you stand 0 chance.... Its no longer PvP... It becomes SCSRvNSCRP (Spark Cashed Steam Roller versus Non Spark Cashed Normal Player). Also, its not just my guild who has issues with her... Someone saw me shouting trying to find them while in a war with them (her guild) and w/d me "OMG! She did it to you too?!"

(You never answered the question)

[sething]

Million dollar question... Why do you care about PvP?

because pvp is fun...


Its not pvp when a charmed +9 mage kills you in 2 hits while you've got 50+ orcs following you...

...yes it is

Mind you, I'm all for a PvP fight. Thats why I join the KQs. But when you stand 0 chance.... Its no longer PvP... It becomes SCSRvNSCRP (Spark Cashed Steam Roller versus Non Spark Cashed Normal Player).

this is still considered pvp because its player vs player...SC is apart of fiesta...if SC items displease you, you might want to go play mario...

Also, its not just my guild who has issues with her... Someone saw me shouting trying to find them while in a war with them (her guild) and w/d me "OMG! She did it to you too?!"

i still fail to understand what she exactly did that was wrong....


believe me, i understand you dislike pvp, you have made that very apparent...you have contributed a perspective much needed in this discussion....however i would kindly request for you to bring forward some fresh input. kthnxbai

[Sharlyne]

stfu seth and make me that thread u.u <3 QQ

[sething]

ugh dont make off topic posts on my thread aka D:
::kicks you::