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gym101
11-10-2007, 09:10 AM
whats the worst thing about fighters:mad::confused::mad::confused:

platina
11-10-2007, 11:03 AM
in my case is too low sp , or too much sp cost of spells...i spam every single skill thats enable and sp dont last a blink

Forbin
11-10-2007, 02:08 PM
Learn to make polls.

Summit
11-10-2007, 02:41 PM
in my case is too low sp , or too much sp cost of spells...i spam every single skill thats enable and sp dont last a blink

Learn what to use and not use some things are just not useful at all till later levels like the level one attack speed doesnt do jack till around level 4 >_> dont be a spam ***** .... use what works trash what doesnt.

Vrael
11-10-2007, 02:51 PM
fighters should have more hp/defense and weapons cost less

-Vrael:)

platina
11-10-2007, 03:24 PM
Learn what to use and not use some things are just not useful at all till later levels like the level one attack speed doesnt do jack till around level 4 >_> dont be a spam ***** .... use what works trash what doesnt.

.... i guess ur a fighter, u would know sp dont last much ..or u just save ur sp, cause u only use normal hits?....

all skills are to be used... if ur not using them all, why get them...

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Archaonn
11-10-2007, 04:16 PM
.... i guess ur a fighter, u would know sp dont last much ..or u just save ur sp, cause u only use normal hits?....

all skills are to be used... if ur not using them all, why get them...

l

so you can conserve sp for much needed skills.

Summit
11-10-2007, 11:42 PM
.... i guess ur a fighter, u would know sp dont last much ..or u just save ur sp, cause u only use normal hits?....

all skills are to be used... if ur not using them all, why get them...

l

Wow.. ya I like to spam ALL my skills because there are some that JUST dont show any progress in what their supposed to do at lower levels like the example I gave.. ok nub(look you made me use leet speak) I know how to play my classes I never get complaints I am THEE leet tank when it comes down to it. so dont lecture someone who can school you

Tasuke
11-11-2007, 12:12 AM
whats the worst thing about fighters:mad::confused::mad::confused:

The worst thing about a fighter is going pure INT.

That's all.

PS: Your poll is pretty terrible.

DaViO
11-11-2007, 12:14 AM
Since the objects are refined

platina
11-11-2007, 02:22 AM
Wow.. ya I like to spam ALL my skills because there are some that JUST dont show any progress in what their supposed to do at lower levels like the example I gave.. ok nub(look you made me use leet speak) I know how to play my classes I never get complaints I am THEE leet tank when it comes down to it. so dont lecture someone who can school you

rofl, not surprise why ur called the troll of forum... at my lvl are skills are usable , and even if the poll was poorly made, guess what... most fighters would agree sp skill cost isnt balanced...

how many skills u can spam before u sp bar is empty...

and ask me if i care if u call me nub, rofl, btw usually the ones that call themselves leet are nothing at all...i am , i am, i am...bwuahaha

Reply to the topic thread, and stop trolling on every ppl replies, .... cause ive seen most of ur replies in other threads, got nothing to do with topic just trolling in other replies...

Off course i could conserve my sp if i used half of them...lmao..so according to the "leet tank" theres nothing worst bout fighters?....i bet u low sp or high sp cost of skills will be the worst in this poll...

Ans to the poll, or dont ans at all... start being more humble before u think u can start teaching others....rolf " Learn"....

PS: u can keep quoting me, and trying to argue, but sorry i don't argue with trolls,, so do what u want....gd luck....

PS: i usually dont need to call no one names, but wasnt me the first that called u troll in this forum, i just kinda agree with that def o u....Sorry for the rest of the readers that had to read me referring to someone like that...

DaViO
11-11-2007, 02:24 AM
Since the objects are refined

Archaonn
11-11-2007, 09:11 AM
rofl, not surprise why ur called the troll of forum... at my lvl are skills are usable , and even if the poll was poorly made, guess what... most fighters would agree sp skill cost isnt balanced...

how many skills u can spam before u sp bar is empty...

and ask me if i care if u call me nub, rofl, btw usually the ones that call themselves leet are nothing at all...i am , i am, i am...bwuahaha

Reply to the topic thread, and stop trolling on every ppl replies, .... cause ive seen most of ur replies in other threads, got nothing to do with topic just trolling in other replies...

Off course i could conserve my sp if i used half of them...lmao..so according to the "leet tank" theres nothing worst bout fighters?....i bet u low sp or high sp cost of skills will be the worst in this poll...

Ans to the poll, or dont ans at all... start being more humble before u think u can start teaching others....rolf " Learn"....

PS: u can keep quoting me, and trying to argue, but sorry i don't argue with trolls,, so do what u want....gd luck....

PS: i usually dont need to call no one names, but wasnt me the first that called u troll in this forum, i just kinda agree with that def o u....Sorry for the rest of the readers that had to read me referring to someone like that...

I can't understand you, with all the leet and over usage of full stops :/

Sighto
11-11-2007, 10:21 AM
Definitely that we're expected to tank. Sure we have tanking capabilities, but not everyone is built to tank. Can be annoying explaining that just because I have snear kick and taunt doesn't mean I can tank bosses. Sure it's plausible at lower levels but the difference becomes much clearer later on.

cduki
11-11-2007, 10:47 AM
Low Sp = Pot Drinkin' "Fun" D:

I'm always forced to save my Sp because I almost never bother to refill on sp stones or sp pots. XD

Summit
11-11-2007, 11:08 AM
rofl, not surprise why ur called the troll of forum... at my lvl are skills are usable , and even if the poll was poorly made, guess what... most fighters would agree sp skill cost isnt balanced...

how many skills u can spam before u sp bar is empty...

and ask me if i care if u call me nub, rofl, btw usually the ones that call themselves leet are nothing at all...i am , i am, i am...bwuahaha

Reply to the topic thread, and stop trolling on every ppl replies, .... cause ive seen most of ur replies in other threads, got nothing to do with topic just trolling in other replies...

Off course i could conserve my sp if i used half of them...lmao..so according to the "leet tank" theres nothing worst bout fighters?....i bet u low sp or high sp cost of skills will be the worst in this poll...

Ans to the poll, or dont ans at all... start being more humble before u think u can start teaching others....rolf " Learn"....

PS: u can keep quoting me, and trying to argue, but sorry i don't argue with trolls,, so do what u want....gd luck....

PS: i usually dont need to call no one names, but wasnt me the first that called u troll in this forum, i just kinda agree with that def o u....Sorry for the rest of the readers that had to read me referring to someone like that...

Sweet I got a forum nick name and they think I CARE, hah and how many skills can I get off and still have sp...I can get ALL my skills off and still have sp to taunt/aoetaunt/semi-aoe stun and normal damage attack. and I only gots 25spr in my spr OH MY no way. you see unless you actually have a fighter up there in i dunno past lvl 20 and unless you played it for awhile you find sp REALLY does balance out later on. you also find skills that "Drops dodge rate, or drops attack rate" really dont do much till the higher levels of that skill, Oh and by the way..people who cant openly take critisism and get easily offended usually revert to calling people like "troll of the forums" who lack the intelligence to comprehend what someone is trying to say. But obviously you lack that and obviously you havent been past the levels 10-25 because you lack to see that sp balances out with or without greens.

Edit : There's probably so many typos in this but at the moment I dont care I get to wake up to people flaming me -yawns- think i'll take a nap.

Summit
11-11-2007, 11:14 AM
haha on a side note Im probably referred to as a "troll" (*** kinda leet speak do these kids come up with now a days...thats a sad diss) because a few guilds hate the fact that their horrible and i openly posted it for all to see, I dont try to pretend to be nice to others when they dont deserve it. Im sorry Im open I critisize people when they deserve it and when you manage to stay on my good side like ALOT of people have well than you enjoy my company but when you have the need to try and pester me with meaningless nick names and such well...than I go type happy and blabber on till you shaddup and let me have my peace n_n enjoy my above post anywho.

The only thing I do find wrong with the fighters though is snearing and the aoe taunt doesnt ALWAYS taunt the enemy it seems to be buggy and misses sometimes when I need to regain aggro.
Other than that its all good.

Lokithus
11-11-2007, 03:40 PM
I have a warrior named Troll on teva :)

MrSkales
11-11-2007, 09:35 PM
Try getting parties... nearly Impossible. Clerics are in high demand as well as damage dealers.

MissusDolly
11-11-2007, 11:17 PM
Definitely that we're expected to tank. Sure we have tanking capabilities, but not everyone is built to tank. Can be annoying explaining that just because I have snear kick and taunt doesn't mean I can tank bosses. Sure it's plausible at lower levels but the difference becomes much clearer later on.

Yes it is understandable that not all fighters are built to tank, but that is their job. They are known best for it too. And you can't really stop people from believing all fighters can tank, when some just can't because of their build.
-Dolly

Kuydo
11-12-2007, 03:56 AM
Oh I just hate it when people want me to tank. And when even I shout I say " Lvl xx DD Warrior (Not tank :P) looking for party." Now when helping friends sure i'll tank, but I hate it when random people force me to. :x

Marron_Glace
11-12-2007, 04:17 AM
I think low SP is the problem of fighters.

Spamming status ailment skill and lure skill is SP consuming.
To be a great tank, spamming such skills are vital

platina
11-12-2007, 07:00 AM
Just to go in topic, not like somes talking bout skills we get over lvl 60.

The polls is kinda poorly made, and wont show the exact result.

1. Low sp:Most skills below lvl 59 are spamable, and ur sp stones, pots wont last much, am a tanker and i gota re stone 2x as other paths gota go re stone, if u had partied, u should know this is true, fighters or tankers always re stoning first.


2.no ranged: this shouldnt even be considered in poll as worst, this isnt a game that u can choose an all around char, chars here are meant to party and complement ea other, offcourse sux at pvp vs trully range ones.

3.they are in evry game therer to basic: not sure what he meant, but fighters are meant to be spartans= very simple , most skills till date are just cast on them, so no complexity on tabbign through party members to debuff, buff or heal, their main goals are the monsters.

4.fighters are EXpected to tank: dunno what should this be one of the worst things... is true its gettign kinda decent votes , but look around, there mroe fighter than tankers, a tanker wont care to tank, fighters moreless, even tho tehy can tank, prolly not aoe tank as a true tanker, but they can tank....if ur hte only fighter at the party, why wont u tank? or would u send the cleric....Most ( not all) dd or hybrid fighters, usually party with other tanks , so they arent used to aoe mok, kick etc, so when the go to new parties where they are the only fighthers, things may go wrong and ppl may die...

Every fighter can tank, just depends on what party u got, where, what and how many at a time ur tanking...the party goes to where the fighter or tank is willing to go..

EVen tho i can tank most monsters below lvl 60 places, if i suddenly join a lower players party, and they asked me to go where i can, go, ill prolly deny the party or just fight where i think they can kill.

Wolf_Mistress
11-12-2007, 07:47 AM
I don't like it that fighters are expected to tank all the time. Yeah, sometimes I enjoy tanking when I know that people there back me up. But if I'm in a group and I use my snear kick or taunt and not one single cleric decides to heal me, then I'm basically screwed. I use a two-handed Steel Solar Eclipse Sword (won at a kq) but that doesn't help me one bit when I don't have much defense, defense scroll or not.

Although people are also right about how the special attacks cost so much SP. I've always saved all my sp and hp pots so it doesn't bother me. But for crying out loud, we're not clerics and mages! We attack with swords and axes, not maces and staffs. It shouldn't cost so much all the time. And then to have it take so long to cool is rediculous.

Scadel
11-12-2007, 05:56 PM
not much complaints about fighters cept

1.Vitality only lasts one minute which sucks.
2.Skills cooldown takes forever IMO
3.Vampiric Strike heals too little

Overall the best class in game to play IMO

Marron_Glace
11-12-2007, 09:33 PM
i agree with scadel, skill cooldown takes forever.

and ull have a prob whether to decrease cooldown
or effectivity. Coz cooldown dec in low levels are neglible

Summit
11-12-2007, 10:44 PM
not much complaints about fighters cept

1.Vitality only lasts one minute which sucks.
2.Skills cooldown takes forever IMO
3.Vampiric Strike heals too little

Overall the best class in game to play IMO
I really havent had a problem with the cd though, the main one i use is the slash, the others like debuffs/taunt/and stun are better off used only when really needed (i.e. tanking a harder mob) and well you get two taunts, say use one to pull an enemy than if someone aggros you it again to grab it if the first hasnt fnished the cd use the 2nd.
haha id hope vampiric stirke wouldnt heal too much because a fighter has high hp as it is, tank or non tank and healing alot of hp would make him far unfair ontop of the stun and all the debuffs he can pop off.

Sighto
11-13-2007, 01:10 PM
That's like saying just because a Cleric has heal, doesn't mean they can heal :confused:

What other classes has taunts? or as high defense/HP.

All I'm saying is that just because a fighter has the potential to tank doesn't mean they have to. With the right build they can deal damage perfectly fine, but it's fine if you don't agree. Everyone has their own opinion. 2H weapons and skills weren't given to fighters to tank better. I use a 2H sword and I intend to bring out its full potential. :)

Rakon
11-13-2007, 05:24 PM
whats the point of even writhing this piece of ****, why the hell would fighters even have high sp?:mad::mad::mad:

AriesMehjor
11-13-2007, 09:24 PM
not much complaints about fighters cept

1.Vitality only lasts one minute which sucks.
2.Skills cooldown takes forever IMO
3.Vampiric Strike heals too little

Overall the best class in game to play IMO

Hell yeah our skills are shot to SH!@#$

all of the other classes that I've noticed can spam skill at least twice before havine to use a stone

out Vitality skill takes way too long to use, and definately doesnt last long enough, but I can see why since it practically eats your DEF in two lol. I really dont even use that skill, unless im not being attacked, but then again, even if I dont use a taunt, Im probably still gonna be attacked because of the damage increase.


Vampiric Strike...*** MAN THATS SOME BS!
Im gonna say this, and you mothers from outspark better be listenin!
Vampiric Strike needs to be like a fighters main freakin skill!
Whoever programmed that needs to stop workin so hard and play more games!

By the time most get Vamp Strike, it doesnt Even do enough hp gain back to even be considered a real skill....thats some BS!
I dont care man...thats some BS! I said it, and I'll say it again, our skills got Sh@#$ on man....ya know what...I dont even care anymore.

I'm gonna go be a cleric now....cause apparently its the only dang class that means anything to this game!

If you look at there forums what do they complain about.....????
Somebody wanna tell me.....???
Cause you wanna know....they dont complain about a @#$ D$#% thing because they get it all...they get it all.....:(

DemonEyeKyo
11-14-2007, 11:42 PM
worst of fighter is when they cant tank... lot of fighter go 2 hand and 2 hand basiqualy useless to other class.... ok ok... not useless but if u have the choice beetween a 1 hand fighter and a 2h fighter in pt which one u choose? the 1h... personally i never go in full pt unless we aoe... mage and archer can just duo with cleric... fighter kinda only have 1 reason to be for us... aoe + tank bosses

Alektos
11-15-2007, 08:12 AM
The worst thing about a fighter is going pure INT.


-Giggles.- Seriously, you make me laugh. Hrm, maybe I should make a char on Teva Server.

Anyways, I think conserving SP and knowing what to use it on is the smartest route. I tend to use a lot of Concussive Charge and the skill that lowers the attack slightly. Other than that I don't really use anything because it'll wipe out my SP and if another mob attacks I won't be able to recover quickly enough.

And on a last note, what Tasuke said...so very true. My main is a bit screwed up because I put a few INT points on her, but I keep her because she's sentimental to me. >.>

hockeynightincanada
11-15-2007, 07:16 PM
ummm, your all gay... has that occured to you? because every second your here you know deep down inside your unhappy because what you really want is to go to the nearest adult gift shop, buy yourself a *****, fasten it to your seat, and sit on it all day while you play this ****ing gay game. for the exception of a few people who are openly gay and play, and get their boyfriends to pound them in between game sessions and lunch.

so, FYI to everyone here
your a closet homosexual
and if your not
then your openly gay

easily the most retarded thing i have ever seen anyone spend time on.
get a ****ing life.
your all retarded gay douchebags

Summit
11-15-2007, 07:54 PM
ummm, your all gay... has that occured to you? because every second your here you know deep down inside your unhappy because what you really want is to go to the nearest adult gift shop, buy yourself a *****, fasten it to your seat, and sit on it all day while you play this ****ing gay game. for the exception of a few people who are openly gay and play, and get their boyfriends to pound them in between game sessions and lunch.

so, FYI to everyone here
your a closet homosexual
and if your not
then your openly gay

easily the most retarded thing i have ever seen anyone spend time on.
get a ****ing life.
your all retarded gay douchebags

Heh for someone that wrote so much to "sound" smart sure had alot of typos trying to start a flame war kid? first get some propper grammar than use spell check than post it.. Oh by the way i sent a copy to a gm maybe who knows -warning- ban? I'd pretty much assume the 2nd option.

Alektos
11-15-2007, 07:58 PM
Oh by the way i sent a copy to a gm maybe who knows -warning- ban? I'd pretty much assume the 2nd option.

I luffs juuuu. ><

Shadowfiend
11-15-2007, 08:05 PM
Im fine with fighters THEY ARE FINE and "not ranged " ? Why the hell u put that there ? THEY ARE FIGHETRS THEY NOT SOPOUSE TO BE RANGED !! Fighters so far perfect Ill I see is that they need a little more magic and normal deff and little more dmg for their weps... Thats it.

yelnatsz
11-15-2007, 08:06 PM
i would say that they dont have that much cool looking skills XD

Alektos
11-15-2007, 09:12 PM
i would say that they dont have that much cool looking skills XD

Lies! Toughness is pretty Flashy.

silksilk
11-15-2007, 09:20 PM
worst fighter in my opinion is when they do nto have a shield, because the game is fresh, we need more tanks then DMG dealers.

Luna_Moore
11-16-2007, 10:08 AM
Your poll sucks...I could pick each choice and point out what's wrong with it. =.=


The worst of fighters? The ones who didn't build themselves for tanking but are convinced they can. >__< As a cleric, that's just outright stressful and upsetting.

I have a fighter that I'm currently remaking. I just wish weapons cost less. That's all. She's going to be mainly a tank, but I need a 2H when soloing cause LOL a 1H doesn't do enough damage and with all that END, she doesn't seem to need a shield all that much yet. Of course, I'm not one of those idiot-fighters who says they can tank some elite boss without a shield.

I am one of those people who enjoys a really slow grind for more drops and just to let out my irl rage... but fighters get so expensive. xP

So yeah, make it cheaper. Please?