Overview of tonigth patch!!!!

[jmercier]

Just recevied that eMail.. GET READY!!!


The Crystal Castle Opens November 4

Prepare yourself for Fiesta's latest dungeon

Fiesta's latest instance dungeon opens November 4th! Are you prepared to enter the Crystal Castle? Get yourself to level 60, then gird yourself for battle. Who knows what dangers await?


Rest EXP System Debuts November 4

Take a break and you'll still get your EXP

We know, nobody likes to take a break from Fiesta, but every now and then, you simply must! Fortunately, this week will see the debut of a new Rest EXP system, where you will gain the opportunity for bonus EXP after several hours away from the keyboard, ensuring you never get too far behind.

[ras-blackfire]

lol why dont i get those mails >D: !

cant wait for the castle :)
and ill see what i need to think of the rest exp... it can be awsome for sometimes =3

[master_roxxor]

Yea, I used to get emails from os about fiesta, but I don't anymore. I really want the emails too. xD Can any Outspark staff help me?

And to be on topic: Did it say what the level cap for the castle is? I'm really hoping it's 85 or higher. And I really hope that the exp from the quests resemble DT more than ToI. I guess I'll find out soon. xD

[ras-blackfire]

lol yea i hope the exp will be good too ... but i also hope it will be harder then the tower ><'' that was just too easy..... ah well, we will see right? :)
i kinda hope the lvl limit will be till 90.... >< so i can do it on my cleric ;l

-and i think old players dont get mails anymore....-

[jmercier]

Well.. I'm kinda old player.... Started in january 2008...and still getting eMails.. check your profile. U had to update it when they changed the new website frontend months ago.

And no.. the eMail didn't state the level limit but I'll bet it will be something like 75 or 80.
At least it will remove some of the 7x levels grinding.

On the other hand, with those Instant dungeons, seems like players will now get easily to level 9x where it really starts to be hard... (like it used to be for all levels)

[ras-blackfire]

Well no one knows how much exp the quests will give yet :) it can be as DT... it give's bad exp... it can be as tower... 1lvl a quest... or it can be between it xD maybe half lvl? ... maybe 10%?
we dont know it yet xD

and ill try to update it o.O if i can

[evieevie]

so this instance starts at lvl60?

[ras-blackfire]

so this instance starts at lvl60?

yes, and not at 55

[devilia]

Level 60 until what? lvl 105?

[drigr_x]

I'm an archer... I'll justkite the whole thing ;D

[ras-blackfire]

Level 60 until what? lvl 105?

that woulbe a bit to high dont u think?
probely around 85 like most ppl say

[skysparkle]

usually i look forward to new content but after ToI im kinda expecting to log on next week to find SoD jam packed with 3 million new lvl 90's who only started last week ><

[evieevie]

hehe u forget no one will be able to get in the place anyways, just look how tower started out >_<

[skysparkle]

hehe u forget no one will be able to get in the place anyways, just look how tower started out >_<

gd point *waits for the tower lvled noobs to get bored waiting to get in new instance and quit* so say 2 weeks till SoD is packed then :p

[evieevie]

hehe
10char

[ras-blackfire]

that the tower was ruined doesnt mean this wil be exactly the same ><'
just wait and see.... im sure it will be beter...

[drigr_x]

I've been sayin that since we found the entrance to CC in Uruga, and people still wont get around the fact that ToI and DT are BOTH instances. So not EVERY one of them is like ToI..

[shader_naraz]

The 'rest' I'm looking forward to...I'm not sure about the Castle. IF it turns out like the Tower...I will probably end up avoiding it until I have finished every one of my quests for each lvl. I felt less accomplished on the alt I did use in the Tower. It took all the work out of it. XD

I will give the thing a shot though. Not gonna judge until I know for a fact its gonna be like a fore mentioned FoM monstrosity. (Nothing against those that like the Tower, its just not my favorite thing. I like feeling like I actually fought for and earned something special.)

[roxas2222]

when we stay OFFLINE? or AFK? :o

[ras-blackfire]

when we stay OFFLINE? or AFK? :o

offline.... XD

[Kendrah]

Ah, well if this new tower IS like the old one (aka jump 30 lvls) by bother buying SC stuff? XD I'll wait and see how it is. Why bother putting in all the time and energy and money only to have people who started three days ago pass you?

The rest exp thing IS something I am looking forward to however. =D

[DarkValkyrie]

I heard that the level limit will be 60-69 a few minutes ago. <.<

[ras-blackfire]

I heard that the level limit will be 60-69 a few minutes ago. <.<

nooooooooooooooo i hope its a lie.

[DarkValkyrie]

Me too, though it might be cause my friends were getting a bit too mad about it :S

[DincaTinel]

willl the rest exp be permanent or only for some time? anione nows

[ras-blackfire]

then i do think its a lie XD players dont know it yet... and it probely wont be just for 9 lvls ><

[DarkValkyrie]

then i do think its a lie XD players dont know it yet... and it probely wont be just for 9 lvls ><

Aren't we players as well? o.e

[ras-blackfire]

Aren't we players as well? o.e

yea, and do we know how much lvls it will be? no.... xD

[wolfy5079]

well it's in the in development section (dont quote much there) that it is gonna be from 60-69. i guess the only way we'll know for sure is if a level 70 tries getting in there.

[1w1ngedangel]

DANG IT!!! I was hoping for the level minimum to be 55. Q.Q

[deathsythe3]

^^ i found the spot of the tower and it seems either 55 or 60-80

[bjzee1]

60-69 would be failz.

[zephyr_wind]

60-69 would be retarded seeing as majority of those levels have a repeat that gives 10%+ per turn in.

[Lukasz_Lucky]

I think the highest possibility would be 60-80... 5 levels of break until 85...

[Lilith.Doe]

the crystal castle being implemented today means one thing: The housing system is closer... :D

[master_roxxor]

I'm glad it's lvl 60-69 actually. Getting to lvl 77 without being plvled is a big accomplishment, and the difficulty of those levels has been somewhat preserved. Good job Outspark; you've made me very relieved. This is just a random educated guess, but I bet 65 blues will come out with the castle since ToI came with 45 blues and DT with 85 blues. I'll be fine with them as long as they don't have crazy stats (like the 45's did at first) and don't look like 1xx armor.

EDIT: the in development section ( http://fiesta.outspark.com/news/development ) also says that +10 enhancement is also being worked on.

[wolfy5079]

dont count your chickens before they hatch we were told it would be from lvl 55 and that was proven wrong. just be relieved when we actually know the level limit.

[Fre_ak]

Hello Fiesta players,

Today, November 03 2009, there will be a server maintenance beginning at 10:00pm PDT. Maintenance will last for 2 hour(s). During this time, we will be adding the Crystal Castle, a level 60~69 instance dungeon, located in Uruga and Rest Bonus EXP feature. Also, the Halloween event quest will be removed.
http://cdn2.outspark.com/jae/crystalcastle.jpg

Patch note:
- Add Crystal Castle instance dungeon for level 60~69. (Entrance located in Uruga).
- Add Rest Bonus Exp feature.
- Add "Select a character and press Enter or press Create to make a new character" text fix from character selection screen.
- From character selection screen, the "Create" button is highlighted in green as default and "Enter" will be highlighted when a character is selected.
- Add Exit button on the server selection screen.
- Add "Show/Hide" for Buff/Debuff, System Message, Party Chat in the Option.
- Increase Guild Tournament rewards.
- Make Multi Blood Shot skill usable while moving.
- Remove Halloween event quest and quest items.
- Remove the left/right arrow buttons from the server selection window.
- Remove the non-functioning Game, Graphic, Sound tabs from the Option window.
- Fix bug caused when attempting to warp to KQ while NPC window is open.
- Fix mover (mount) to be destroyable.
- Fix character title to be changeable even when more than 47 titles are obtained.
- Fix Shout delay to 2 seconds.
- Fix Free Battle Zone's mini map to be more accurate.
- Fix regeneration effect to decrease lag.

http://fiesta.outspark.com/news/view/?id=zbn.9264

[royaltydust]

60-69 would be retarded seeing as majority of those levels have a repeat that gives 10%+ per turn in.
I know. Only levels 64, 67, 69 don't have repeats. The rest do. With the 6 million exp quest, the tower's pretty useless. I guess it's a good thing.

[zephyr_wind]

60-69 is a total fail. I understand where your coming from Krozz about not being plvled to 77 but this is just ridiculous. This means people who didn't do repeats and just did crystal will end up in KKP and ugh >.>.

60-69 is full of repeats and if you just spam those the quest that don't have them are super easy, even 69. It should've been like 60-80 or something and the castle itself should get harder as you get more quest. As it is now is just retarded.

First you give a tower to levels that don't need one. Levels that have a ton of quest AND repeats mind you. Hobs/imps may have been annoying but they were enough. Now for levels that again, don't need it. Why?!

[drigr_x]

I love how someone says 60-69 and everyone suddenly thinks its gonna be 60-69?

[Fre_ak]

I love how someone says 60-69 and everyone suddenly thinks its gonna be 60-69?
didnt see my post didnt u? :O

[royaltydust]

I love how someone says 60-69 and everyone suddenly thinks its gonna be 60-69?
Epic failure. Actually read the patch notes, retard.

[pongster]

Drigr has to troll though, you see. Dx

[boo18white]

Im looking forward to maintence tonight. Right after its done I'm hop on my cleric and check out the castle *-*. Gonna do anything I can to stay off my archer so he can get that rested exp bonus :D

[honor326]

i m glad it s only 60-69, good job outspark to keep the 70-77 challenge :D (but might be easier with 65 blues)

[pongster]

I hate how people complain, It's a new addition to the game, which is always a plus to me.. I'm guessing you'll have to charm for it too, Doubt it's gonna be easy.

Might try duo it with my wife on Apo tomorrow though. :)

[avion210]

So much for the gradual change in difficulty, I mean 1-50 was rediculously easy, and 60-70 required more patience but now with this new instance 1-70 is gonna be a cake walk, and then you hit 70 and you'll just be bombarded by the difficulty change.

And COME ON 60-69? Those are some of the easiest/funnest levels there are, by getting all your new skills and such.

And lvl 6X's get 60 abyss, debatably the best abyss ever.

WHY!?!?!?

[zephyr_wind]

I don't like unneeded new content.

[boo18white]

Im glad its 60-69 too. Keeps people from just trying to hop from one instance to another.

[samuraimandc]

should be 60-75 and only pick up quest until 69. come on tower u have 30lvls u can be in there........ just make it not so easy like tower. if its drops make it low if its kills make it alot.

[drigr_x]

Actually I didn't miss the post. Just missed the highlighted part. I was more interested in the parts NOT about CC. Though I AM dissappointed in it only being 60-69... ToI = 20-50 (30 lvls), DT = 85-105 (20 lvls), CC = 60-69? (Only NINE lvls??)

[royaltydust]

Actually I didn't miss the post. Just missed the highlighted part. I was more interested in the parts NOT about CC. Though I AM dissappointed in it only being 60-69... ToI = 20-50 (30 lvls), DT = 85-105 (20 lvls), CC = 60-69? (Only NINE lvls??)
Yeah... yeah... sure... whatever....

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/jcrew2/Denial.png (http://fiesta.outspark.com/news/view/?id=zbn.9264)


Fun Fact: Click the picture to be forwarded to the Patch Update Notes.

[spookyiness]

i love how everyone complains ahead of time that it will just make levelling too easy for the 50-80 players, but then they complain when there is a little restraint put in and it only spans 10 levels

seriously - it wouldn't matter what they did, you would find a way to complain

and of all the patch notes, noone has yet commented on the shout delay being 2 seconds instead of 5
THIS is the worst part of the patch in my opinion - there are already enough people that seem to think that if you don't sell something the first time you shout it, you will sell it if you repeatedly shout it for 2 hours straight at 5 second intervals - this is now going to be 2 second intervals

elderine & uruga are going to become complete nightmares for spam selling and endless shouting, and you can be sure more people will try to get their world dj in towns, rather than quieter maps/mines etc - of all the additions in tonights patch, this is the one that will cause far more ingame drama and more antisocial players to appear.

[drigr_x]

Oh royalty... You must love me so much... Making a new account to continue calling people retards and morons, and following me around jumping at the first chance to say I got something wrong. I love you too <33

[Shera1]

i love how everyone complains ahead of time that it will just make levelling too easy for the 50-80 players, but then they complain when there is a little restraint put in and it only spans 10 levels

seriously - it wouldn't matter what they did, you would find a way to complain

and of all the patch notes, noone has yet commented on the shout delay being 2 seconds instead of 5
THIS is the worst part of the patch in my opinion - there are already enough people that seem to think that if you don't sell something the first time you shout it, you will sell it if you repeatedly shout it for 2 hours straight at 5 second intervals - this is now going to be 2 second intervals

elderine & uruga are going to become complete nightmares for spam selling and endless shouting, and you can be sure more people will try to get their world dj in towns, rather than quieter maps/mines etc - of all the additions in tonights patch, this is the one that will cause far more ingame drama and more antisocial players to appear.

I have to agree w/you Spook. However, I am confused over one other portion of the update, the xp while resting? What is that? Not many in this thread have gone into detail about this, and I don't party often, so could someone please explain? :confused:

[bjzee1]

xD i figured royaltydust was literoyalty.

[silverwhitedragon]

since were talkking about patch notes...

any archers happy that now instead of kiting at 51 we can now kite at lvl 20?

[NOTE] i checked the notes again and i didnt see anything about archer multishot being kitable :/

regeneration effect? any ideas on what they mean by this?

[bjzee1]

some lag reducing feature? o.e

[zephyr_wind]

since were talkking about patch notes...

any archers happy that now instead of kiting at 51 we can now kite at lvl 20?

[NOTE] i checked the notes again and i didnt see anything about archer multishot being kitable :/

regeneration effect? any ideas on what they mean by this?

It's multi-blood shot the level 95 archer skill. It wasn't kiteable before and there was a bug that after you used it you couldn't use any skills right after.

[spookyiness]

I have to agree w/you Spook. However, I am confused over one other portion of the update, the xp while resting? What is that? Not many in this thread have gone into detail about this, and I don't party often, so could someone please explain? :confused:

cause it was covered in about 9 other threads...

http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231747

would be one with silky detailing it

basically, if you actually log out of the game cause you have other things to do in life, you get a 10% exp boost for x minutes when you get back as a little bonus

some people seem to think that if they log out for 5 hours they get 5 free levels, but really 10% isn't really all that much, it's just a nice freebie for those that don't play 24/7, and kinda encourages people to actually log out when they are afk, rather than just stay online and dance for 9 hours (although, those with vending slaves will most likely just make second accounts, but that's a whole nother thread :> )

[joecracker]

rest should be renamed to offline exp then, because resting in game means afk in house mode

we will see how this works after tonight

[Shera1]

Oh ya.. and I forgot to address the update relative to regeneration. A player already regen's while in rest mode, are they going to speed up or slow down that process, or is this something else?

I sure hope they don't slow it down anymore, as it is, it wastes time on scrolls, buffs, and other SC items when a player is lagged to a 2 or 2.5 min. rest. :(

SUGGESTION: Why not just sell an item(s) with the regenerative quality? Twood be nice; but I'm sure it'd be expensive. :p

[Tommy2k7_uk]

rest should be renamed to offline exp then, because resting in game means afk in house mode

we will see how this works after tonight

lol i think offline exp boost is better

[spookyiness]

SUGGESTION: Why not just sell an item(s) with the regenerative quality? Twood be nice; but I'm sure it'd be expensive. :p


you mean like hp pots/sp pots?
or hp/sp regen pots?
or SC magic pots?

[bladesong117]

Really should be 70-80... :S

[french_blandian]

* Rest EXP System Debuts November 4
Take a break and you'll still get your EXP
We know, nobody likes to take a break from Fiesta, but every now and then, you simply must! Fortunately, this week will see the debut of a new Rest EXP system, where you will gain the opportunity for bonus EXP after several hours away from the keyboard, ensuring you never get too far behind.

This is, without question, the worst decision that has been made so far.

You've already dropped in the towers which characters can get from 30 to 40 in a couple hours.

You've already raised the exp gained for the low levels.

You've already raised to amount of exp gained for certain quests.

Yes, by all means, let's make this game even EASIER AGAIN and THIS TIME let's let the pathetic lazy idiots sit in a house while eatin skittles and lookin at dirty magazines so they can talk about how much time they've spent on their character leveling.

W O R S T...I D E A...E V E R.

[drigr_x]

Yeah... Its totally a fail idea... Its just something EVERYONE gets to use and EVERYONE will be happy to see (well I guess everyone EXCEPT you). I bet those 9xs are stting at their computers goin

http://www.rso.wmich.edu/ultimate/random/kool-aid-man.jpg

[Shera1]

you mean like hp pots/sp pots?
or hp/sp regen pots?
or SC magic pots?

Na.. like a stat on an item of clothing, jewelry, etc. Regeneration process of like 2 or 3 pts every 3 to 5 seconds. Similar to many other mmorp game's items inclusive in their games. Outspark could charge SC for them, or make it a smaller stat on an in-game item, like heal 1 pt every 3 sec'ds or something of that sort.

Just a suggestion. It comes in rather handy when your standing there waiting for your hit/shots cooltime to recoupe. ;) Of course I don't know how the house regen process affects the lag, this may add to that, or not.

[spookyiness]

This is, without question, the worst decision that has been made so far.

You've already dropped in the towers which characters can get from 30 to 40 in a couple hours.

You've already raised the exp gained for the low levels.

You've already raised to amount of exp gained for certain quests.

Yes, by all means, let's make this game even EASIER AGAIN and THIS TIME let's let the pathetic lazy idiots sit in a house while eatin skittles and lookin at dirty magazines so they can talk about how much time they've spent on their character leveling.

W O R S T...I D E A...E V E R.


Yeah... Its totally a fail idea... Its just something EVERYONE gets to use and EVERYONE will be happy to see (well I guess everyone EXCEPT you). I bet those 9xs are stting at their computers goin

http://www.rso.wmich.edu/ultimate/random/kool-aid-man.jpg


yeah, cause a 10% exp boost will get you from 91-105 in 2 days straight
you do understand that 10% is really just a token gesture and won't really impact the game too much - can't you just be happy for the people that actually work for a living *rolls eyes*

[french_blandian]

Yeah... Its totally a fail idea... Its just something EVERYONE gets to use and EVERYONE will be happy to see (well I guess everyone EXCEPT you).

Yep, let's reward people for sittin on their butt. We'll be rewarding EVERYONE who sits on htheir butt, so that makes it a good idea.

If you want a game that does the work for you, you might wanna play Barbie Dress Up.

[drigr_x]

Did I forgot my /sarcasm on it being a bad idea? I'm sure the 9xs still love ANY increase in exp... Even one so limited.

You DO realize that you can gain more in 6 hours of grinding than you will in the 10 minutes of +10% exp you get for being gone for 6 hours right?

[rekselric43]

Why does OS fail so much T.T
60-69 is just a waste of 3-4 months programming the thing..

[Fre_ak]

i believe u wont gain any exp when u log off...u still have to grind to lvl..it just give u a little exp boost when u came back online and grind again

well if im read it correctly ~.~

read this thread for more detail:
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231747

[ciahuicoatl]

Sorry, this is a totally fail idea. Sure lets reward people for doing nothing? ...So basically, I've spent money and time on a game to WORK to where I am..only to have it handed to others? Repeat of tower much? >.>

Lame

[french_blandian]

This is Outsparks way of getting more money, the same idea was behind the Coat of Arms event; the more bandwidth (people online) that Outspark has, the more money they get from "ad traffic" and the like.

In other words, more logged in = more money

[drigr_x]

Cia... Rethink it... The only its going to do is give like 10-120 minutes of +10% exp while grinding for being OFFLINE for 6-17(?) hours




This is Outsparks way of getting more money, the same idea was behind the Coat of Arms event; the more bandwidth (people online) that Outspark has, the more money they get from "ad traffic" and the like.

In other words, more logged in = more money


Interesting... cause "rest exp" actually encourages people to LOG OFF

[ciahuicoatl]

It specified AFK time... So I can vend and everyday get 10% EXP for nothing? So that means by the time the semester ENDS, I'll be 96 >< . NOT good without me ACTUALLY DOING IT. I don't expect a handout, and I don't think OTHERS should recieve a handout either. I appreciated OS trying to keep customers and try to make people happy. However that being said, why not give us more maps and increase the cap, not hand out EXP.

Again I say FAIL.

[spookyiness]

It specified AFK time... So I can vend and everyday get 10% EXP for nothing? So that means by the time the semester ENDS, I'll be 96 >< . NOT good without me ACTUALLY DOING IT. I don't expect a handout, and I don't think OTHERS should recieve a handout either. I appreciated OS trying to keep customers and try to make people happy. However that being said, why not give us more maps and increase the cap, not hand out EXP.

Again I say FAIL.

OMG

really?

that's how you read it?

you really need to turn off your computer, maybe go back to first grade

a 10% exp boost means you still have to grind, you just get 110 exp per kill instead of 100exp per kill, for a whole 10 minutes

that's EXACTLY the same as saying log off for a week, and suddenly you're capped

[drigr_x]

*attempts to explain again*

Say you grind on black bears (I have NO CLUE what they give for exp).

You log off for a day of school, 8 hours.

You get back on.

A black bear would normally give you 10,000 exp a kill.

Because of this new feature and you spending 8 hours OFF LINE(!) you have 30 minutes of +10% exp gained.

This means now instead of 10,000 exp per kill, you get 11,000 exp per kill for the nexy 30 minutes.


did I explain it right yet?

[Fre_ak]

Another update,

(I'm even more confused, but this is final)

After 6 hours of log out, you will accumulate 10 minutes of +10% bonus exp.
Every hour after 6 hours you are logged out, you will accumulate another 10 minutes (Log off for 7 hours, gain +20 minutes).

Maximum accumulated time is 120 minutes (2 hours) of rest EXP.

If you've accumulated 50 minutes of rest EXP, use 30 minutes, log off for 8 hours, you'll gain an extra 30 minutes totaling to +50 minutes when you log back into the game.

Again, this feature is free to all users. It's a content update for this week and also stacks with EXP Boost cards.
again..read this thread for more detail (by GM):
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231747

[shader_naraz]

I'm going to attempt to help drigr out with this explanation. Just gonna quote myself from before. getting tired of repeating myself. XD

Its not 'free' exp. You wont get it unless you log in and actually kill monsters. Its a temporary 10% boost based on how long you are offline. Like a exp boost card.

:edit: beat to it. I quoted that same response from Silky too.

You can only get two hours max and it is ONLY 10%. You still have to work at it. It really isn't enough to even be considered a 'handout'.

[ciahuicoatl]

*attempts to explain again*

Say you grind on black bears (I have NO CLUE what they give for exp).

You log off for a day of school, 8 hours.

You get back on.

A black bear would normally give you 10,000 exp a kill.

Because of this new feature and you spending 8 hours OFF LINE(!) you have 30 minutes of +10% exp gained.


This means now instead of 10,000 exp per kill, you get 11,000 exp per kill for the nexy 30 minutes.


did I explain it right yet?

This actually makes sense. While I can see how an exp boost while continueing to grind can be beneficial....it also seems to be a handout. Perhaps, the good side is less server lag and such.

I guess I'll have to wait and see.


OMG

really?

that's how you read it?

you really need to turn off your computer, maybe go back to first grade


"Rest EXP System Debuts November 4
Take a break and you'll still get your EXP


We know, nobody likes to take a break from Fiesta, but every now and then, you simply must! Fortunately, this week will see the debut of a new Rest EXP system, where you will gain the opportunity for double EXP after several hours away from the keyboard, ensure you never get too far behind. "

I'm SORRY...I thought AFK meant AWAY FROM KEYBOARD...oh yes, back to grade school for me. >.>

Wow...I didn't get a response...or an apology for that matter.

[french_blandian]

OMG
really?
that's how you read it?
you really need to turn off your computer, maybe go back to first grade
a 10% exp boost means you still have to grind, you just get 110 exp per kill instead of 100exp per kill, for a whole 10 minutes
that's EXACTLY the same as saying log off for a week, and suddenly you're capped

I think the melodrama-queen needs to pull the holy bible out of her hind end :)

I misread it too, as it says, "away from keyboard" in the official release. AFK implies logged in and not at the computer, not logged off.

Aright, so people logged off accumulate an exp boost. The good side is that people won't sit in a house for hours wasting bandwidth, since they'll save up for more exp. I get that.

I still think this is a very stupid idea though. Why should ANYONE get more exp for being logged out? And for that matter, why should I, being logged out, get more exp when I get back than someone who has been playing for several hours straight?

[shader_naraz]

I think the melodrama-queen needs to pull the holy bible out of her hind end :)

I misread it too, as it says, "away from keyboard" in the official release. AFK implies logged in and not at the computer, not logged off.

Aright, so people logged off accumulate an exp boost. The good side is that people won't sit in a house for hours wasting bandwidth, since they'll save up for more exp. I get that.

I still think this is a very stupid idea though. Why should ANYONE get more exp for being logged out? And for that matter, why should I, being logged out, get more exp when I get back than someone who has been playing for several hours straight?

In my opinion, they are doing it to help with lag. I love the idea of less lag, even if it is just a little.

[drigr_x]

Also... I bet if you grinded for 6 hours instead of logging out for 6 hours to get TEN minutes of boost... You would get more exp from the 6 hours logged in grinding. Not really a handout. Just a way to compensate those of us that can't live on Fiesta.

[spookyiness]

I still think this is a very stupid idea though. Why should ANYONE get more exp for being logged out? And for that matter, why should I, being logged out, get more exp when I get back than someone who has been playing for several hours straight?


if the somone who plays for several hours straight levels slower than the person who took several hours to do other things, then get a measly 10% exp boost for 30 minutes, then i really don't think that 10% boost would have made any difference.

it's not designed to make people cap overnight if they log out overnight, and for those that play 24/7, they will be online and playing for those 24 hours, and should generate their own experience without the need for the 10%

we do understand that 10% really isn't all that much, it's just a small gift to those that log out during the day, or when they sleep. it isn't going to impact the levelling speeds in the game at all, all it does it make one small demographic in the game a little happier - but of course, what were outspark thinking, making some people have a bonus means that some people won't get the same, and that can only mean they are evil EVIL people who cannot possibly do anything at all to please anyone

if you hate the idea so much, feel free to not play, and not complain, and let those that actually enjoy the game have the time to enjoy it

these forums are just getting worse and worse and worse with so many rumours, accusations, downright vulgar attacks on a company that essentially provides a free game for people - people need to stop taking every game decision personally - there are other people playing this game besides you, who may actually welcome these little changes.

i've lost count of the number of threads that say it's all about the cash shop, and here, once again, they give something FREE ingame to those players that actually choose not to use the cash shop, and guess what, it was the wrong thing to do, cause like, i use the cash shop and i had to pay for my exp boost, and now THEY get it for free

boo hoo

[shader_naraz]

if the somone who plays for several hours straight levels slower than the person who took several hours to do other things, then get a measly 10% exp boost for 30 minutes, then i really don't think that 10% boost would have made any difference.

it's not designed to make people cap overnight if they log out overnight, and for those that play 24/7, they will be online and playing for those 24 hours, and should generate their own experience without the need for the 10%

we do understand that 10% really isn't all that much, it's just a small gift to those that log out during the day, or when they sleep. it isn't going to impact the levelling speeds in the game at all, all it does it make one small demographic in the game a little happier - but of course, what were outspark thinking, making some people have a bonus means that some people won't get the same, and that can only mean they are evil EVIL people who cannot possibly do anything at all to please anyone

if you hate the idea so much, feel free to not play, and not complain, and let those that actually enjoy the game have the time to enjoy it

these forums are just getting worse and worse and worse with so many rumours, accusations, downright vulgar attacks on a company that essentially provides a free game for people - people need to stop taking every game decision personally - there are other people playing this game besides you, who may actually welcome these little changes.

i've lost count of the number of threads that say it's all about the cash shop, and here, once again, they give something FREE ingame to those players that actually choose not to use the cash shop, and guess what, it was the wrong thing to do, cause like, i use the cash shop and i had to pay for my exp boost, and now THEY get it for free

boo hoo

I wonder the same thing every-time I see a complaint. Well said!

[french_blandian]

if you hate the idea so much, feel free to not play, and not complain, and let those that actually enjoy the game have the time to enjoy it

boo hoo

Calm down, drama queen.

Just because you like the idea does not mean I'm not entitled to voice my opinion, mkay?

[drigr_x]

Cool the name calling?

And french, if you're entitled to your opinion, and think a feature (that would normally be paid for) is implemented for everyone sucks... I hope you never post saying OS is too money hungry and only does SC things...

[spookyiness]

Calm down, drama queen.

Just because you like the idea does not mean I'm not entitled to voice my opinion, mkay?


so you're entitled to your opinion, but i'm not entitled to mine?

and for the record, as someone who vends whenever i don't play, i actually do not like this idea - it benefits others and not me, but i don't cry about it, because i know that other players will be happy with it and will actively seek to gain the small exp boost for all it's worth, whereas people like me who prefer to vend when i'm not playing, it means a second account, or not being able to benefit from it. so don't assume that because i shoot down those that find negativity in things all day long means i like the idea, or that i'm not entitled to my own opinions, just as you claim you are

i bet you're one of these people who when they see someone won $88 trillion on the lottery immediately cries "oo, just think of all the tax you'll have to pay", rather than just be happy for the people that do benefit from it

i may not like the idea because i get nothing from it, but it takes nothing away from me at all, all it does is give something free to other people. just like it doesn't remove YOUR experience from you in order to reward others, so you have NOTHING to complain about

but then, if you had nothing to complain about, i'm sure you'd make a thread complaining about the lack of problems

[french_blandian]

Cool the name calling?

And french, if you're entitled to your opinion, and think a feature (that would normally be paid for) is implemented for everyone sucks... I hope you never post saying OS is too money hungry and only does SC things...

No, if someone is going to clearly dramatize what people have said and stretch it out into that many paragraphs, sorry, you're a drama queen.

Right, because everything is streamlined in one direction? Drig, I'm done with you, I haven't read a single post of yours that is actually logical. You take every argument to one extreme or the other, and it's clear that you only reply with words, not clear ideas. Feel free to not waste my time again.

If everyone is getting the same exp boost with the patch from being offline, then why is it such a good idea? Essentially it means everyone remains the same, making the boost irrelevant for the individual. Additionally, it's already too easy to level at lower levels, they don't need anymore help. Anyone with the know how can get a character from 1 to 40 in a day. Anyone without the know how can still get from 1 to 40 in a few days. We don't need to keep making it easier. If you wanted to reward say, the level 80s, or 90s, or 100s, as the exp gets EXTREMELY more difficult to get, I get that, but then I would just throw in some more quests. They don't even have to be all special, just add a few drops quests or something.

Regardless of what is or could be done, I think logged out exp boosting is just stupid. Essentially, everyone who goes to school, work, shopping, playing sports, whatever, they get an exp boost when they back.

Why?

Why should anyone get an experience boost for logging out?


so you're entitled to your opinion, but i'm not entitled to mine?

I didn't even read your post beyond that sentence, as you obviously have no clue how a conversation, even an argument, takes place or the context within just a few short replies.

You're entitled to your opinion, and not a word I've typed has said or implied any differently. What I said was quit dramatizing what's being said.

I'm done with you too. Tired of people who can't think before they type.

[byron007]

Wow, 95 aoe is gonna get fixed o___________o..just ....wow o;
NM upgrades next please <3?

[drigr_x]

Because it entices people who can't play all day to actually get on once in a while and level/pay for SC items...?

(How much you bet he replies to me?)

[spookyiness]

I didn't even read your post beyond that sentence, as you obviously have no clue how a conversation, even an argument, takes place or the context within just a few short replies.

You're entitled to your opinion, and not a word I've typed has said or implied any differently. What I said was quit dramatizing what's being said.

I'm done with you too. Tired of people who can't think before they type.

you do realise that this translates to either "i read your post beyond that sentence, but it made sense and i don't have the ability to try to belittle it", or "i never read the posts people make, i just read the first sentences and make my decision for the rest of the thread based on that, rather than reading all the facts and making informed decisions" - something that i proved very clearly in a thread created yesterday.

and if you really think i'm someone who doesn't think before they type, you really REALLY need to pay a lot more attention to the threads. there are plenty of people that just type for the sake of it, and plenty of people that just complain for the sake of it, and there are a few that actually stand as the voice of reason and common sense a lot of the time. i'm not arrogant enough to say i'm always the voice of reason and common sense, i'm in fact human, and prone to errors and mis-judgements, but i get enough praise in my little pm box and on MSN informing me that i do tend to put a real life spin on all the crazy and wild rumours and forum arguments that have no purpose except to antagonise other players into fighting (essentially baiting them into getting banned), or for fear-mongering making every single little decision that OS or OOS makes and turning it into the end of the universe and a plot to take over the world (i site pinky and the brain).

of all the wild and crazy arguments for or against this exp boost, that a 10 minute 10% boost will cap you in a day has the be the best, but (and i'm sure i'll be corrected if i'm wrong), i'm guessing this was OoS's idea, and out outsparks, as both GM's that tried to explain it to us were pretty much interpreting what they had been told and admitted they weren't fully sure how it works - AND it's something that requires zero sparkcash and doesn't even touch the cash shop, something that for no reason i can see, seems to anger many people in the game, and yet you STILL find things wrong with it.

there really should be some sort of test you have to take to play this game - not an IQ test, that would be silly, but like, a series of questions/tasts to test that you at least have a little common sense and can think for half a second before immediately assuming the worst in everything - and anger management classes for those that fail

at least the forums would start to be a helpful, friendly, welcoming community again, and not the "my cat is better than your cat" contest, or "omg this game sucks so bad, it's sucked for 9 years now, i know cause i've played for 7 years, and it's always bad and always gets worse, even though i play every day for 23 hours, and sleep for 1 hour, i still have no idea how things work and stil think it sucks, cause like, i play it every day"

*DISCLAIMER:
i tried to make that last quote in like kid speak with all the "l8ers" and spelling everything like a 4 year old, but it just didn't work, i can't think that... well... stupid.

[kklobos]

wow most of you just complain and complain because Fiesta is actually implementing new stuff. The offline exp boost is for people that actually have a life.... and that helps them recover some time, and this also encourages grinding.

[EvilDarkAngel]

If you think about this for a second it says on the review, that it stops at level 69 which gives a total of 9 LEVELS, COME ON OS, either correct the typos many people will be complaining like animals @.@

[royaltydust]

If you think about this for a second it says on the review, that it stops at level 69 which gives a total of 9 LEVELS, COME ON OS, either correct the typos many people will be complaining like animals @.@
it is for 10 levels.

[spookyiness]

erm... 60-69 = 10 levels

[drigr_x]

If you think about this for a second it says on the review, that it stops at level 69 which gives a total of 9 LEVELS, COME ON OS, either correct the typos many people will be complaining like animals @.@
I think they WANTED to make it for 60-79... But that defeats the purpose of low 7x weeding out the people that wont/can't grind (or are forced to buy SC so they can). And it would've been odd to make it 60-69/76-79.

[silverwhitedragon]

Spooky I welcome your comments as they are well thought out and not illogical.

French, I do not welcome your ranting. You can not prove why your case is better without resorting to indirect criticism. Please think carefully which words you choose. It is very tiring to have to sit here an read post after post of complaining and bashing. You are looking more foolish than Drigr right now. :/

Drigr, I understand where you're coming from. But you too need to think about what you post because your reply's, although valid, are easily drowned out by your sarcasm.

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Off-Topic: Drigr have you noticed that the guy i your siggy almost looks like he has no right arm .-.

[shawnpm810]

Im lvl 66...and ima partake on this new "instance"
As far as DT >.< i NEVER went...never asked about it, never sought it out. Ive been hearing too much about it and frankly...dont care as to what it is. I ran the tower, and i plan on goin to lvl 70 with the new "instance" just because im BORED AS HELL with grinding.

Ive been around in fiesta long enough to know im not a "N00bLar" as some of you people say...frankly, Noob, newb, choob, scoob, ect = just a term used by "seasoned" players. Big deal ;-)

I DO NOT like this rest exp boost. means ALOT of afk leveling noobs *sighs* a level one can afk for a week and not get the punt untill maintence. SO...wheres that leave us? STUCK with vendors getting exp doing NOTHING.

ROAR!

[EvilDarkAngel]

count the levels its actually 9, 60~69 is 9 levels so i AM correct! (unless you get lvl 70 from 69 via the crystal tower in which case i would be wrong!) think use logic! count the levels from 60~69....., anyhow thanks for calling me a retard, shame you just proved yourself to be one also :D

[EvilDarkAngel]

one thing i quest my way to level, and if theres no quests i'll result to grinding guess whot: NO Quests hard enough getting exp, exp. when the kq's sucks!

[drigr_x]

count the levels its actually 9, 60~69 is 9 levels so i AM correct! (unless you get lvl 70 from 69 via the crystal tower in which case i would be wrong!) think use logic! count the levels from 60~69....., anyhow thanks for calling me a retard, shame you just proved yourself to be one also :D
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Sorry...

By the way... Crystal Castle

[shader_naraz]

Im lvl 66...and ima partake on this new "instance"
As far as DT >.< i NEVER went...never asked about it, never sought it out. Ive been hearing too much about it and frankly...dont care as to what it is. I ran the tower, and i plan on goin to lvl 70 with the new "instance" just because im BORED AS HELL with grinding.

Ive been around in fiesta long enough to know im not a "N00bLar" as some of you people say...frankly, Noob, newb, choob, scoob, ect = just a term used by "seasoned" players. Big deal ;-)

I DO NOT like this rest exp boost. means ALOT of afk leveling noobs *sighs* a level one can afk for a week and not get the punt untill maintence. SO...wheres that leave us? STUCK with vendors getting exp doing NOTHING.

ROAR!

It is actually offline time, not afk time like originally stated. The max amount of boost one can accumulate is only 2 hours of 10% boost.

[spookyiness]

I DO NOT like this rest exp boost. means ALOT of afk leveling noobs *sighs* a level one can afk for a week and not get the punt untill maintence. SO...wheres that leave us? STUCK with vendors getting exp doing NOTHING.

ROAR!

does that mean people who buy 50% exp cards just have to sit there and do nothing and level?
no, because even if it was a 1000% exp card, they'd still have to actually do things and kill things to earn it - it's a TEN PERCENT experience card.
so if it previously took you 10 days to get from 70-75, now it will only take 9 days, assuming you had that 10% for the entire time, which clearly isn't the case. you're not going to get ANTYHING if you don't do anything, but it will encourage those people who only play for an hour or so a day, to maybe stretch that to 2 hours, or longer, as they have this little boost to use up.



It is actually offline time, not afk time like originally stated. The max amount of boost one can accumulate is only 2 hours of 10% boost.

yes, 10% BOOST, not 10% of your experience just for doing nothing

why don't people think - is it really that hard to just think about something for 8 or 9 seconds before they decide how things are.

[Mikencloud]

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67 8
68 9
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Sorry...

By the way... Crystal Castle

Lmfao. I almost fell out of my chair reading that one xD!!!

[shader_naraz]

does that mean people who buy 50% exp cards just have to sit there and do nothing and level?
no, because even if it was a 1000% exp card, they'd still have to actually do things and kill things to earn it - it's a TEN PERCENT experience card.
so if it previously took you 10 days to get from 70-75, now it will only take 9 days, assuming you had that 10% for the entire time, which clearly isn't the case. you're not going to get ANTYHING if you don't do anything, but it will encourage those people who only play for an hour or so a day, to maybe stretch that to 2 hours, or longer, as they have this little boost to use up.


Funny you explained it that way. I explained it to someone almost exactly like that earlier today. I'm glad to see another person who actually gets it. I don't know how many times I have had to repeat myself trying to help those people understand that still think it is just free exp.

...and its getting on my nerves...which isn't a very easy feat generally.

[Shadowic2]

Please remember to remain respectful towards one another when engaging in a thread. Otherwise I will be doing much more than simply editing posts.

Just because you disagree with someone or something, or thing that a person is wrong does not warrant such rude behavior.

Thanks.

[dagorus]

i am unhappy and pleased simultaneously about this patch.

things i am happy about:
new gear(hope its 65 sets), fixes on skills that were long overdue(i think the regen lag refers to the cleric skill, or it could be about using the mini house... either way -yay!), faster shout times, any exp boost is very handy in the levels past, and fixed the NPC KQ start issue

things i am unhappy about:
castle only goes from 60-69, it is in uruga(PARTY PLZ 4 CASTLE!!!), shout speed increased(see previous), people really are this lazy?

while getting from levels 50-60 is not that hard, without proper planning or plvl 57 stalls out thanks to the repeat quest being gone for almost 3 months now(kill seniors), additionally, the fact that guild acad is extended to level 60 now makes the connecting levels much easier to get help with.

what does this all mean?

there will be increased demand for level 75 sets and blue 70 weps, more people in the "good" exp spots for levels 70-76, and maybe more players who don't have the play skills that their levels would indicate. give it time, and those who got to 70 the easy way will all whine their way into quitting.

Don't despair! this could really help people who got tired of the drama on one of the older servers and want to start fresh on a new server get a few levels. Just be patient with the 'nubs' and try to help them learn the 'right' way to play. if all else fails:

just block them in chat and don't join their party if you don't like them

Looking forward to the madness that follows a content patch this size and scope, hope any bugs that sneak in are insignificant or quicky squashed.

[ciahuicoatl]

I'm rather disappointed about the level change for the Crystal castle...I just got my fighter to 70 yesterday...

[paul_logsdon]

the castle might be like the tower in a way. the tower was mainly for lvs 20 to like 43 with quests, but you could enter until lv 50; so the castle might be the same way. Maybe like, say, 60 to 69 for quests, but you can enter until level 75 or so.

just a thought.

[drigr_x]

I think the official word from OS is just 60-69 though. Wewt! I'm only 65 on my archer and 66 on my cleric!

[trapod]

hmm...lmao I wonder how many ppl are gonna be camping outside the castle like at the tower when it first came out...cant wait x.x

[princessyfeather]

OS used to give server wide exp boosts.. Back when they cared about the players. This is a good thing to have imo. For people that have school and other responsibilities.

Sigh I miss the old Fiesta :/

[EvilDarkAngel]

i have been unable to Play on fiesta for almost 5 days (since lappy played up that is) now i believe from my understanding, the crit rate of the monsters have gone up (wrong, level 64 took on a snail *solo* i'm proud of that) however the teddybears (SOD) gives out a 4k crit at level 64 now, how come that is snails are 10x harder than those teddy bears :o *bug* :D someone says bug to me i often do....

Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug Bug

:p so, lets have a good time and relax while os or oos sort their butts out ;D

hehehe ;P