should Outspark host it's own wiki?

[salman.pisces]

Well the title tells you what I am proposing.

Outspark should host it's own wiki on it's own domain.Something like [http://fiesta.outspark.com/wiki].

-It should have a link for it on the Fiesta main page
-The first tutorial page you see when you start a new character should also mention about it.
-It will be handled by the community.
-It will have it's own forum thread.
-Only the GMs (and/or selected admins) have the rights to lock the thread.

While there are other wikis available on the internet,they are not very reliable.While there is fiesta fan's wiki which I find reliable enough,it does not update that frequently.
It would be better if OS had it's own wiki that is also monitored by OS itself.It would be more efficient that way and more people will contribute to it as well.
So what do you guys think?

The main thing about the poll is whether you want it or not.The rest is for further information.If you wanted a 'I dont care' option then I'm sorry since only a max of 10 options are allowed.

Please also post about why you want such a wiki or don't want it(or why you dont care XD) or anything else you want to add.

P.S: if you don't know about the other wikis, here are some links:

Fiesta Fan Wiki: http://www.fiestafan.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

Fiesta Wikia: http://fiestaonline.wikia.com/wiki/Fiesta_Online_Wiki

[spookyiness]

the idea behind fiesta is to wander around the virtual world and learn how to do things, by doing the quests, reading the storylines & making friends and learning things
even if you ask specific questions about aspects of the game, officials will reply with that same answer
the wiki's are on fan sites because some fans got together and pooled all their information together
i also have a lot of information (and they call me bobbipedia in game because of it) that hasn't made it to any wiki, and people tell me to make my own too - but if you give away too much information about the game away, and have every single tiny aspect of it, it would get boring very fast.

just explore, learn, do things yourself. sometimes you discover things other people didn't know about, and you can choose to keep that info to yourself, or share it with your friends (noone knew rings could be enhanced until someone did it once, for all we know, that feature was there for weeks, but it wasnt until this week that someone explored that aspect of the game)

putting everything in black and white and have fully detailed listings of every single part of the game isn't really what games like this are about, and it would spoil them, which is why i personally believe they should stick to fansites, and not the official site

however... having said that, the fiestafan one is the most widely used one, and i'm sure it wouldn't hurt for outspark to link to it directly from their pages, as they link to the fansite itself and obviously acknowledge it as a legitimate

[RikoRain]

Or how about " No, I dont see my answer here".

Im not voting for something like this. Theres plenty of fansites out there. Why should Fiesta host its own Wiki site? (which would basically be like giving all players cheats). Gaming sites dont have to provide you with all the info about their game, thats part of the fun, finding it out, researching lil tricks, talking with people for methods.

Besides theres like 3 fiesta wiki's out there. Thats PLENTY.

[royaltydust]

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[fa1nt6]

Even if they had one, they wouldn't put enough work hours into it to make it near as nice as the already-existing one is :/

[Infestation]

Fiestafan gives out plenty of info, and a lot of other info can be found on the forums. If you want to find something you can. The one thing I wish was updated and more accurate would be the monster drops section. It basically stops in the 5x range. It would be nice to know what to farm for certain mats, even though at that point it is pretty well known what kind of mob drops what.

[drigr_x]

I alo think that CM_Bribbo (I think it was him/her) said that OS CAN'T make its own Wiki, it has to be done by the players. Maybe some legality issues with OOS?

[salman.pisces]

I alo think that CM_Bribbo (I think it was him/her) said that OS CAN'T make its own Wiki, it has to be done by the players. Maybe some legality issues with OOS?

well,I did say that it shall be maintained by the community didn't I?

Guess it was a bad idea anyways since all the hard work people put into their own wikis goes to waste and such wikis exist already(tho they are not exactly enough).
majority says no so...someone close this thread!

[drigr_x]

well,I did say that it shall be maintained by the community didn't I?

Guess it was a bad idea anyways since all the hard work people put into their own wikis goes to waste and such wikis exist already(tho they are not exactly enough).
majority says no so...someone close this thread!
I'll be honest. With my only 2 hours of sleep in 48 hours, I didn't have the attention span to read the whole first post. I assumed you meant OS make it due to there already being quite a few Fiesta Wikis made by others

[salman.pisces]

I'll be honest. With my only 2 hours of sleep in 48 hours, I didn't have the attention span to read the whole first post. I assumed you meant OS make it due to there already being quite a few Fiesta Wikis made by others

lol I dont really mind if you read the entire thing.(even I sometimes don't read it all when I'm too tired).No,I meant that they get very little publicity so it takes them quite a long time to update.If OS were to host a community managed wiki here, it'll get more publicity and a lot more people will contribute to it.

[Krozz]

I get it, and I like the idea. Like you said, other wikis don't have much publicity and are hard to find for newer players, and this game doesn't have much of a tutorial to speak of. That and the fact that they took out the old help page can make it kind of difficult to learn anything new on your own.

[spookyiness]

I get it, and I like the idea. Like you said, other wikis don't have much publicity and are hard to find for newer players, and this game doesn't have much of a tutorial to speak of. That and the fact that they took out the old help page can make it kind of difficult to learn anything new on your own.


which is why, instead of making a new one, os just link to the existing one at fiestafan, at it appears to be the most popular and up to date

if they make yet another one, that becomes 4 (that i know of), all maintained by different people and all updated at different times, which would probably be more confusing.

the wiki's are a valuable resource, although usually more for the veterans of the game than the new players, but it may be time to just pick one and go with it

*makes her own just to disprove her own point* :>
(i already have one, lols, but it's on a private server, and it's based on what i know to be true in our version, vs observations and using wiki's from other other versions to try to guess what's in our version, so it's not as complete as existing ones, but it is 100% accurate)

[mulberry]

I'm with Spooky on this one. It would be kinda nice if OS would link directly to the Fiestafan Wiki.

The Fiestafan Wiki is current and accurate, is the most widely used, is maintained by the community, has tutorials and pretty much everything players need.

But I feel that Spooky is also correct in her basic opinion that people need to, and should experience and discover aspects of the game for themselves. If you don't, then it kinda takes the fun out of it. This coming from a person (me) that failed to notice the "Quest List" button at the NPCs until like lvl2x. To this day I get lols for that. :D

[salman.pisces]

which is why, instead of making a new one, os just link to the existing one at fiestafan, at it appears to be the most popular and up to date

if they make yet another one, that becomes 4 (that i know of), all maintained by different people and all updated at different times, which would probably be more confusing.

the wiki's are a valuable resource, although usually more for the veterans of the game than the new players, but it may be time to just pick one and go with it

*makes her own just to disprove her own point* :>
(i already have one, lols, but it's on a private server, and it's based on what i know to be true in our version, vs observations and using wiki's from other other versions to try to guess what's in our version, so it's not as complete as existing ones, but it is 100% accurate)

well,I like your idea better than mine.Making a new one is not as pleasant as it sounds.And when you say direct link,I dont mean that 'fan site' section at the bottom of the fiesta community page.The link should be somewhere on the bar at the top of the page.Perhaps it should come under the guides section.

[spookyiness]

i would also suggest that you make sure the owners of fiestafan are happy with it, because they might not be
they don't like it when the forums here go offline and everyone hoards onto their servers to try to keep in touch with their online friends (and who can blame them from the amount of traffic they get) - sometimes have a wiki that a portion of the community uses is better than one that encourages every user to go use, it costs a fortune to keep it going, you get many more people wanting to be admins/updaters, which is problematic in itself, and it would slow down the service for the existing users :>

[windrider07]

To be honest, it's really up to them. Outspark is a professional gaming company and, without a doubt, will make a wiki that will look much more professional-looking than any other wiki out there IF they chose to do so. However, the more fansites there are for Fiesta, the more the game will grow. There's nothing wrong with having more than one site/wiki. Every site has its own style. It is often said that just because there is one active site doesn't mean more can grow and become active as well :)

[salman.pisces]

i would also suggest that you make sure the owners of fiestafan are happy with it, because they might not be
they don't like it when the forums here go offline and everyone hoards onto their servers to try to keep in touch with their online friends (and who can blame them from the amount of traffic they get) - sometimes have a wiki that a portion of the community uses is better than one that encourages every user to go use, it costs a fortune to keep it going, you get many more people wanting to be admins/updaters, which is problematic in itself, and it would slow down the service for the existing users :>

they have to be happy about it.The server costs may be high but more people visiting their site means that they get more money to keep their servers running.If the traffic becomes too much to handle then they can increase their bandwith because too much people visiting the site means they get more money than they need don't they?

[blcurrey]

I originally voted yes, but after reading through the comments (espescially by Spooky) I've changed my mind and think that Outspark should not be involved in the process.

I have to admit I like having a community based sharing system outside of the business model. And I like the idea that new players should learn as they go (except for the Robo and Honeying KQ's). Those guides should be part of the freakin dialogue for each of those new quests (been on Legel lately?)