View Full Version : Multi Blood Shot - Non moving skill now.. nerf much? :(
iownagez
11-10-2009, 10:34 PM
Miscellaneous
The Archer skill, Multi Blood Shot, has now been changed to a non-moving skill.
This is from the new patch >.< Archers are ALREADY underpowered a lot, do you seriously have to do this and nerf them even more? My lv61 mage's Nova kills faster than a lv75 archer using all of it's AoE's continuously :/
neon_297
11-10-2009, 10:52 PM
I agree. Outspark just HATES archers! I wish they would stop taking away skills that makes us even weaker than we already are...all the other classes Have an advantage...if they do this we should have an add in something....what's wrong with an archer that wants to kit to get a quest done...the skill doesn't do that much damage anyways and we are squishy so stopping and going for a skill just don't seem right when the archer is a "kitting" class, that's what we are good for and that's how we don't die as fast =[ . but if they really want people to quite PERFECT way to do it. thanks for making it harder to play this class and thanx for focusing on your 30 new dance moves rather than the actual game..game needs help....not fancy dances.
byron007
11-10-2009, 11:07 PM
Outspark hates archers =P, it's just the truth.
iownagez
11-10-2009, 11:20 PM
I'm still pissed off at this ._.
I just bought all this stuff to get ready for an archer and this change is being made.
ARCHERS ARE ALREADY WEAK AS HOW THEY ARE! WHY MAKE THEM WEAKER? GAWD
Myn19
11-10-2009, 11:24 PM
Whyyyy,whyyyyyy?
missfidelis
11-10-2009, 11:54 PM
omg this is such BS!!! I just recently made an archer and I was looking forward to using this skill. .... now that's ruined.... What's the friggin point of making an archer if outspark hates them so much?? ridiculous.
sassan
11-11-2009, 12:53 AM
This is EXTREMELY disappointing. Archers are already knee-deep in squish as it is, and you want to take our one way to level away?
I like how they make radical changes to character skills with just one line in their downtime description.
Archers have crap defense, crap attack, and now they can't even kite effectively. I don't quite understand why they even think anyone's going to attempt to make a high level archer anymore.
I demand an explanation. >_>
solarwings
11-11-2009, 01:28 AM
Yep... G A Y
c8itlyn
11-11-2009, 04:33 AM
I feel for ya's. OS has failed BIGTIME this time. Archers are seriously underpowered as it is and now, not long after they essentially make mages a kite class, they start to take away the actual kite classes kite skills. You guys need to kick up a serious stink about this.
mystiq_dreams
11-11-2009, 05:05 AM
Ehww... Is this again clever move to sell more cookies, more enchanments....
I really want my archer higher, ou well it's squishy, and only can kite, i just
think how it can manage at higher lvls, when you have only 1 aoe kiting skill?
Dear Outspark:
please, this is stupid.
P.s Ok, if you like that this is the right way, increase natures mist's damage +50%
darkcrystal92
11-11-2009, 05:42 AM
Outspark, I'm very disappointed in you. .___."
sbr999
11-11-2009, 06:16 AM
Not like you would use that skill anyways.
But yea it blows :/
bladesong117
11-11-2009, 06:21 AM
Wow... that really sucks...
Is Multi Blood Shot the 95 aoe or the 75 one?
And can you kite with the 75 Aoe if its the 95 one, or vice versa?
fwishie
11-11-2009, 06:24 AM
Omg. Didn't they just make it moving (or fix it) last patch? Wth .__. It's not like archers are anywhere near being overpowered. I reallyyyy don't see the point in nerfing ANYTHING
D:
aiken333
11-11-2009, 06:46 AM
Outspark, do you know what's fair trade?
If you really want to remove our kiting abilities, why don't you:
-Remove the movable function of magic blast?
-Remove the movable function of all fighter skills?
- or even remove the movable function of healing skills?
Take this as a joke if you want, someday our hide skill might even gone as well.
byron007
11-11-2009, 07:32 AM
Wow... that really sucks...
Is Multi Blood Shot the 95 aoe or the 75 one?
And can you kite with the 75 Aoe if its the 95 one, or vice versa?
MBS is the 95 AOE bleed skill ;x, and you can kite with the 75 aoe ..anyway none of the 95+archers that I've seen use it..they should fix its cd (20sec) and sp consumption (1066), the only thing I like about the skill, is that it does 7x dot dmg EACH sec...and lol, I just used it and my char is all stuck again X__x
boomdude111
11-11-2009, 08:21 AM
even when it was kitable i rarley used it, 900sp for a skill that i can keep spamming my other 2 aoes is quite pointless, and archers aren't squishy imo, w/o +9 jewlery i've had 12.3k hp since lvl 100 (str/spr build) and can tank helga with easy, let alone anything else in this game ;/ doesn't really matter to me when the skill is already bugged sp wise for the low dmg of it's DoT....
lanceds
11-11-2009, 10:47 AM
Oh, wow, nerf the already underpowered class, why don't you.
byron007
11-11-2009, 11:49 AM
Seriously guys, I don't think there is any 95+ archer, who actually cares about it not being kiteable. If they would fix the sp+cd and make it kiteable...now that would rock :P
great_wolf
11-11-2009, 02:39 PM
Seriously guys, I don't think there is any 95+ archer, who actually cares about it not being kiteable. If they would fix the sp+cd and make it kiteable...now that would rock :P
i would be rather excited :D
skysparkle
11-12-2009, 04:46 AM
correct me if im wrong here but i get the impresion with its longer cool and higher dmg this is meant to b used in an aoe party thus stationary ...... unfortunately in this version of fiesta we are missing all our party buffs and arnt wanted in parties :o making this stationary skill useless to us
xogeley
11-12-2009, 09:18 AM
Yeah I'm not buying this skill...
SP consumption blows anyway. Like Boom said it's not worth the low DoT damage.
Tamlinari
11-12-2009, 09:31 AM
An Archer that doesn't keep moving dies.
That's how it works.
You stop moving and you won't survive without spark cash pots or a very attentive Cleric.
A non-moving skill is useless and I rarely use the original multishot for that same reason. I only use it in KQs.
Great work there decision makers, no one will buy that stupid skill now because it is useless.
Mindspank
11-12-2009, 10:09 AM
Skill has been non moving for about a month...
sweetangel99
11-12-2009, 10:13 AM
thats a good thing for nerf... :) now its fighter's turn :D, slow them down outspark, slow them down :), make pve more of a challenge.
Run while casting is cheap and easy. You archers know you are far too overpowered, stop saying your underpowered... If your really weak, re-roll to another class. Now fighters need to be nerfed. They need to be slowed down on instant casting.
You guys should try to pve without running while casting, you can still kite anyways, you just stop and cast and can move again, its not a big deal. Even I done that.
Deal with it or cry more :o
byron007
11-12-2009, 10:18 AM
Now fighters need to be nerfed. They need to be slowed down on instant casting.
Like they would ever, ever...ever nerf fighters, they rather nerf other classes, to make it easier for fighters to own in Pvp.
And to stay on topic, I didn't and I still don't care about this skill, unless they fix its cd/sp consump. And if it's suppose to be a stationary skill, then fix the walkingall fuzzy for some sec thing after you casted it x.x;
sweetangel99
11-12-2009, 10:22 AM
Like they would ever, ever...ever nerf fighters, they rather nerf other classes, to make it easier for fighters to own in Pvp.
lmao... fighters will be nerfed... pve sucks... think about pve... mobs and bosses are a joke. A mage should have no problem at all blasting the fighter to death. Its true, even I can killl them and I'm a "noob" PKer. I even killed a fighter level 36 while I was 30. Fighters are not hard to own in pvp
byron007
11-12-2009, 10:47 AM
lmao... fighters will be nerfed... pve sucks... think about pve... mobs and bosses are a joke. A mage should have no problem at all blasting the fighter to death. Its true, even I can killl them and I'm a "noob" PKer. I even killed a fighter level 36 while I was 30. Fighters are not hard to own in pvp
I wasn't talking about pve but pvp and fighters don't really suck in pve, do they? I know mages can own fighters, but since this is the archer section of the forums, I was talking about archers vs fighters. Try killing a glad with 9k base hp, that can dash through your entangles and stun you, and own you with just a few skills, even if you're full +9'd. And gratz to owning a lvl 30 fighter with your lvl 36 mage. I've seen a 75 mage spawn a 9x fighter, until he got stunned and got splashed.
nemesis333
11-12-2009, 10:52 AM
I was actually happy when they decided to make this AOE kiteable because archers already have a hard time as it is given their limited abilities. I agree with some of the above posters who say that the SP consumption should be lowered and it should be made kiteable again which would be positive steps to removing that "ugly duckling" image from archers.
sweetangel99
11-12-2009, 10:54 AM
I wasn't talking about pve but pvp and fighters don't really suck in pve, do they? I know mages can own fighters, but since this is the archer section of the forums, I was talking about archers vs fighters. Try killing a glad with 9k base hp, that can dash through your entangles and stun you, and own you with just a few skills, even if you're full +9'd. And gratz to owning a lvl 30 fighter with your lvl 36 mage. I've seen a 75 mage spawn a 9x fighter, until he got stunned and got splashed.
I was 30 that time, the fighter was level 36... ok... they'd have dash because they do have problems trying to reach. and nobody sucks in pve (or should). anyone can kill any thing with no effort. Mostly you archers :), fighters need to be nerfed too...
JOHNNYPOOPOOPANTS
11-12-2009, 11:54 AM
I was 30 that time, the fighter was level 36... ok... they'd have dash because they do have problems trying to reach. and nobody sucks in pve (or should). anyone can kill any thing with no effort. Mostly you archers :), fighters need to be nerfed too...
How many times are you going to repeat yourself?
Dragonfly77
11-12-2009, 12:06 PM
thats a good thing for nerf... :) now its fighter's turn :D, slow them down outspark, slow them down :), make pve more of a challenge.
Run while casting is cheap and easy. You archers know you are far too overpowered, stop saying your underpowered... If your really weak, re-roll to another class. Now fighters need to be nerfed. They need to be slowed down on instant casting.
You guys should try to pve without running while casting, you can still kite anyways, you just stop and cast and can move again, its not a big deal. Even I done that.
Deal with it or cry more :o
Let's see you kite a map and stop and turn to get caught up in the middle of 50+ mob train to cast an sp-sucking, low-damage dealing skill.
Nah..
aperturelaboratories
11-12-2009, 12:08 PM
I was 30 that time, the fighter was level 36... ok... they'd have dash because they do have problems trying to reach. and nobody sucks in pve (or should). anyone can kill any thing with no effort. Mostly you archers :), fighters need to be nerfed too...
How many times are you going to repeat yourself?
Ad infinitum et ad nauseam.
In all seriousness, Sweetangel, if you are not even playing the game anymore, WHY do you continue to hang around here making posts that only show you to be laughably uninformed?
XTerrorDrowX
11-13-2009, 08:28 AM
I was really looking forward to this skill regardless of its long cool down.Having another kitable DoT aoe would have been wonderful but apparently OS thinks we are somehow "overpowered" and decides to nerf us.Notice no other class this patch was nerfed or reduced in their ability.how about you,the staff of OS,explain to us as to why this decision was made?:mad:
Tamlinari
11-13-2009, 01:08 PM
I was 30 that time, the fighter was level 36... ok... they'd have dash because they do have problems trying to reach. and nobody sucks in pve (or should). anyone can kill any thing with no effort. Mostly you archers :), fighters need to be nerfed too...
I suppose it's possible at lower levels but a 8x Fighter will swat 8x Archers like flies.
Here is how it works in a guild war, the 8x Archer shoots at the 8x Fighter who typically ignores the attack because he usually doesn't even realize that the Archer is shooting at him most of the time.
But once he turns green he starts looking for the person shooting at him and then runs up on the Archer who will try to flee while still using natures mist which hardly does any damage to the Fighter and usually within a very short period of time the Fighter will get close enough to the Archer to use a stun or a deva and after that it's one hit and the Archer is dead.
Fighters are incredibly powerful at higher levels and so are Mages but Archers and Clerics seem to keep getting weaker.
Archers have great kiting skills in conjunction with speed scrolls but they really stink at PvP against a Fighter or a Mage.
FernoDragon
11-13-2009, 05:42 PM
archer=underpower
mage=overpowered
cleric=indamiddle
fighter=overpowered
xD
great_wolf
11-13-2009, 05:46 PM
archer=underpower
mage=overpowered
cleric=indamiddle
fighter=overpowered
xD
lol clerics
whitewolf1234
11-17-2009, 03:14 PM
Well basically this is like what is usto be a long time ago.
For those who played since Beta or close to it.
OS Keep Nurfing Mages a lot and people stopped playing as them due to it.
Then like a year later they made them gods at PvE and PvP.
And if you havent noticed, archers are supposed to be cunning.
As is sneaky and tricky. Not known for damage.
We have poison and can freaking go invisible. **** how many people wish they could be invisible.
Fighters are supposed to be known as brawlers, up close and personal but yet extremely strong and expert with weapons.
Mages are masters of magic, and of course they are going to be strong.
Clerics cant really die nor do damage as well. But everyone loves them in all situations.
To me its a pain that they keep nurfing archers but yet we can still take 50+ monsters at a time and get large exp. use hide and hang with helga or go explore area's, stalk prey, for those who are evil, go to abyss and lure lots of monsters to a person and use hide which should stop them from attacking you and look at the person killing them or atleast attacking him/her and gives you a chance to poison and kill him/her and laugh at them and also killing the mob with little hp it has left.
Hate Fighters/mages/clerics in PvP?
go to a FBZ poison everyone you see and when fighters and people chase ya, use hide and laugh at them. Remember archers are ment for trickery and sneaking around.
Every class has ups and downs. Just a matter of how you play your cards.
Soon OS will fix archers but until that day they will keep dropping archers abilities then boost them through the roof.
rbtheking
03-04-2010, 09:23 AM
OS hates archersīn they users aswell...
Wow allot of GM's answers...
keep dreaming archers just do like me and change ur class
or u can wait for 3 mre years to fix them (or die while it). lol
nottheface
03-11-2010, 05:12 PM
Ehww... Is this again clever move to sell more cookies, more enchanments....
I really want my archer higher, ou well it's squishy, and only can kite, i just
think how it can manage at higher lvls, when you have only 1 aoe kiting skill?
Dear Outspark:
please, this is stupid.
P.s Ok, if you like that this is the right way, increase natures mist's damage +50%
They won't sell more cookies if they nerf Archers to the point that giving them Sc gear is just a waste because with fully Charmed/Extended/CritSuits they are as strong as a fighter without any Sc gear.
Wait a second... I think that is already what is happening ._.
Shadowic2
03-11-2010, 08:00 PM
Ahhh zombie apocalypse!!
*Flails her shovel*
Please do not Necro-Post.
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