Dear outspark staff (OnOnsoft) and all players.

[mystiq_dreams]

Thanks for great game, great inverement, great players adn ty those who are
ego maniacs too, you bring this game more depht as annoiyng as you are.

BUT!

Why all these great expansions and new features allways cost real money?
Is there any new feature, what is totally free to all?
More and more sc needed, few examples:

- Some repeets dont work at all (you have to buy exp boost card)
- Fashion + angel and demons events (you have to buy costume)
- New vacuum pet (you have to buy sc pet, OR spare you xmas pet, what changed
NON treidable at beginning of xmas event... so this is reason why they do that...)
- New housing system (you have to use sc for some functions)
- Enchancing items (you have to buy sc stones, it is not possible to get +9 WITHOUT sc)
- All normal costumes are same to all (you need sc suit to be a little unique)
- You are new player and you mess your build (you need sc to fix it)
- You are new player and you mess your skills (you need sc to fix it)
- Characters has too little amount of stones (you need soul stone carrier)

Ok, many thing is small and little, but if you want to really enjoy on this game you
have to invest a big amount of money in every month... And when you do...
what they give us as reward? Huge lag, screen freezes totally 3sec, and meanwhile
all mobs have killed your char... Wedding pets are sc items too, they dont have vacuum skill... 1 hour war rants what you get as rewards give more drops then sc war rant,
ok i am done, but please Outspark and OnONSoft, give us something valuable,
when we give you so so much real life money. And i mean to those players
too, who cant use real money to play a game.

Yours sincerelly:

[RikoRain]

Uh first of all, the extra, and yes, i said, EXTRA, items for this game are gonna cost money just like for any other game. Fiesta is a F2P game, meaning, free to play, meaning, you can play it whenever you want without paying any money at all. You dont have to. Its free. Now if you want a pretty outfit, or a new haircut, or certain other things, then yeah, you buy em.

Now the reason some events score as well as the sc items, is partially a promotional event, and partially a celebration event. Those of us who can get ahold of sparkcash, we enjoy it when the item weve been waiting for, weve gotten, weve went and spent sc and thus real money on, is celebrated in some manner via event.

And some repeats not working, keep in mind, some levels, there just arent repeats. If there were, everyone would be 105, the game would be boring, and no one would play. If that were the case youd prolly be complaining about too many 105's if that happened. And if a repeat, if for some reason one is bugged (I think I only heard about the one at like.. level 46? But that really isnt even important because you just come out of tower at 43, and the very next level starts repeats). I dont even think this is a pressing issue, especially since MORE repeats came out with CC. We dont need more repeats, lol, if anything, we need a bit less. Too many people levelling too fast.

Vacuuming pet is a additional feature bought via stand alone or pack pets in the cash shop, thus, of course, its not going to be in game on every single pet. Imagine if 5 ppl in party had it and had it activated. Fighting over drops, screaming for free allocation, whining when their pet didnt get the item even tho autoloot was on. Now imagine this for every single fiestan. Yeah. It would be horrible. Im GLAD its a sc-required feature. This regulates it.

And as for the xmas pets. Only the new ones are nontradable.. Lol I could still trade my old ones. But that doesnt even matter cus I have a coat of arms and wedding pets anyway, that give the same bonuses.

Housing system, again, of course. Its an additional feature. Its gonna cost sc in some areas.
Now here is where Im gonna stop you cus Im getting a bit peeved at having to explain it so much, and its making me laugh in a sense. The House system, do you even know what is/isnt gonna be in the sparkcash shop? Theres gonna be items IN GAME you can buy FOR FREE just using your characters fame/money. Why do you think we have a furniture npc in uruga? I know for a fact outspark wouldnt put all the house systems in sc only, because we have a furniture person in game. Your own eyes can confirm it. Hes between the healer and the item merchant.
Also, look at what I found on the samer page as this thread.

Silkypico]PS: For those of you wondering, yes the house is free and you must be at least level 10 to get it.

Tell all your friends to join so we can benefit from this new feature.
If that isnt confirming it s free, I dont know what is.

It is quite possible to get a +9 without stones. Ive done it. I know others who have done it. Sure its alot harder, and takes more luck, and youre prolly better off doing it on a junk item in case it breaks, bvut again, this is an ADDITIONAL FEATURE. +9 armor is NOT required to play the game. Also, you dont HAVE to make your own +9 armor, you can buy it from other people. This point, isnt even worth arguing. Cus heres the solution; if you dont wanna enhance armor, buy already +9d armor. Ive done it my entire Fiesta career. I enhanced a hammer and a bow, found it hard, and decided to never enhance again. End of story, Ive always bought +9'd since then.

And yeah, sc suits are gonna be unique, cus youre paying for them. Now, if you wanna look unique and not spend alot, then fine, go get one of them sailor suits or something that doesnt cost much, but you are, paying for an outfit not needed for fiesta, so it is gonna cost sc. Its a gimme.

As for the stat and skill points, yes. Because otherwise youd have to deal with it. By releasing a sc item that can reset it, this ensures that only the ppl who want to, and can afford it, do. Imagine if those things were fre in game.
A level 100 would change his build from pure str to pure end in a second, mid battle even!!! Sheesh this would get totally out of hand and be a bad idea.

And finally, your final point, (now Im tired D; ) the onl stone problem i encounter is with mage. And if you take a peek at my sig, youll see Ive had plenty of experience. But then again, take a looksie at the logic. Humans are fighters and clerics, elves are archers and mages. Which ones are skinnier in game? Archers and mages. Which ones are shorter in game? Archers and mages. Which ones are quishier in game? Archers. And. Mages.
Which ones are buff, stronger def wise, taller, more built? Humans. The clerics and fighters.

So it makes sense logically that clerics and humans c an carry more stones physically.
Soul stone carrier is not needed. Lol Ive played fiesta this far not needing one, but Ill say it makes things easier for mages, and mages only. Fightert/cleric dont really need it, not even archer.

Ahhhh fin, finally! Ya know this post took longer ot type than all the others Ive made today ;o;

[skysparkle]

i partly agree with both the first 2 posts, yes this game is free to play but there are so many aspects of it which also are way easier/better with sc, like lvling past 91 or enjoying pvp/guild wars/raids

beauty coupons on the one hand are purely cosmetic and i feel its right they cost sc but on the other hand adding a few more options when making ur char wouldnt hurt either (not loads just a few colours that arnt shades of blue)

things like stat and skill resets ........ u should get a free full reset for both at lvl 100 but a one time thing (like the lvl 30 reward) take cleric for example maybe uv empowered mace skills and want to become guardian 90% of the ppl playing this game didnt realise these empowerment points would b completely wasted at class change, infact anyone who has reached 100 should be able to play theur new chosen class to the best it can b played including being able to change build to complement the class they want to pick

the housing system in all the other versions of fiesta warps are bought with fame, its the one thing that makes the housing system rly worthwhile imo and the f2p players are missing out

i think my point is os push this as a f2p game but in reality ur rly not gonna enjoy it very much without sc at least for any amount of time or in high lvls, and i also think they make enough money from the cash shop that they should cater to the non sc buyers just a lil more, it wouldnt kill them to add a lvl 100 skill reset or make warps available with fame, or even a basic beauty coupon at lvl 40 (like other versions have)

[Ian]

Though this reply might not be long, I'd like to clarify a couple things:

- Fiesta is a game that has always used the "free 2 play" model. In order to make a substantial amount of money off the game is to have a premium shop. It is up to the publisher to dictate how much each item will cost and how long it will last, but it is never truly necessary to buy a premium item to play through the whole game.

- Be happy the housing expansion is going to be FREE because it was being considered as a paid feature. Again, you don't need to spend sc on it for it to be functional. Only for premium portals or premium decorations/repair kits. (There are non-sc decorations/repair kits as well.)

- I honestly can't recall a free game in which I didn't have to buy a premium item to undo stat points. I'm thankful that I get a 10pt reset at level 30. It would be nice to have more resets (minor if any) later on.

- SC Suits: They're only "unique" for so long. If you want to really be unique, you will have a hard time. A lot of people buy nearly every sc costume to make themselves look different, but there are rarely any people who are truly unique-looking in each server. The best way to make yourself stand out (imo) is a beauty shop coupon. Changing your hairstyle and face is the one thing that really can set your character apart from others.

[GM_Razia]

Yes, there are a few features in this game that cost money. Fiesta is a free to play game, and at no point is anyone required to spend money on anything that we have to offer-- be it a new costume, furniture, super awesome health potion, what have you. However, it is simply illogical to have every new feature be free to the public. We are a company, and as such, we offer a service to you. Instead of requiring a monthly payment from our players, we offer the option of purchasing items for real money. If you want to look unique, with a new hairstyle of outfit, then it will cost you a little bit of money. However, it costs us money to release that content for you. Employee costs, server costs, etc.

When I plan events for you guys, I do not always relate them to sparkcash items. Sure, there are some perks if you do happen to buy a promotional item, but they are not necessary. In fact, most of the prizes that are given away during these events are sparkcash items. This is a way that people who do not want to pay real money can obtain the premium item that they want, simply for participating in an event. Most (if not all) of the events that are planned are free to anyone willing to participate. In order to get a special prize instead of the regular one, you might have to be wearing a sparkcash costume-- but once again, it's not required.

The same is true for something like the housing system. The actual system will be free to every player, but if you want to decorate your house with special furniture that option is available. Same with the pet pick-up system. Prior to this content release, sparkcash pets were not all that different from regular pets. To change this, we have made them much more useful by having them loot monsters for you. Do you need your pet to pick up items for you? No, of course not. It is a nice convenience, though. That is what you are paying money for.

As far as lag, screen freezing, etc.? This is bound to happen in all online games at some point. We experience lag here at Outspark, free players experience lag, people that pay monthly for their MMO experience lag. Sometimes there some things we can do, and sometimes there are some things that players can do on their end to solve this (changing graphic settings, for example). Spending money and lag are in no way related, whatsoever.

I try not to make players feel that they have to buy sparkcash items to enjoy the game. We love all players, from someone who spends $100 a week on items to someone that has never opened up the sparkcash store in their life. <3

[TwistedFreak]

Though this reply might not be long, I'd like to clarify a couple things:

- Fiesta is a game that has always used the "free 2 play" model. In order to make a substantial amount of money off the game is to have a premium shop. It is up to the publisher to dictate how much each item will cost and how long it will last, but it is never truly necessary to buy a premium item to play through the whole game.

- Be happy the housing expansion is going to be FREE because it was being considered as a paid feature. Again, you don't need to spend sc on it for it to be functional. Only for premium portals or premium decorations/repair kits. (There are non-sc decorations/repair kits as well.)

- I honestly can't recall a free game in which I didn't have to buy a premium item to undo stat points. I'm thankful that I get a 10pt reset at level 30. It would be nice to have more resets (minor if any) later on.

- SC Suits: They're only "unique" for so long. If you want to really be unique, you will have a hard time. A lot of people buy nearly every sc costume to make themselves look different, but there are rarely any people who are truly unique-looking in each server. The best way to make yourself stand out (imo) is a beauty shop coupon. Changing your hairstyle and face is the one thing that really can set your character apart from others.

To first part fair enough its up to the publisher to dictate how much it costs or how long it lasts, the bit your missing though is these are virtual items, once one has been made it is very easy to alter and once it has been added it can be coppied billions of times with no extra cost to the publisher because it is in the end not real, yet we still have to pay a hell of alot for these items.

In regards to you saying sc is not neccessary to play the game, yes that is in essence true but is very flawed. try grinding past lvl 91 with no crit/def suits, exp boosts, extenders charms, teva and so forth. No 1 would do this or if they have tried 99% would fail no exp boost on a solo grind you looking at 1-2% an hour in a party 3-4% if your lucky

So yes you dont have to buy sc but without it, it is pointless goign past 91 unless you want to spend 24/7 grinding for next to nothing, and with so many glitched moves and bugs and lagg it really isnt worth it.

As regards to the housing system it should be free full stop, it is a game feature, next we will be expected to pay for the cap release and new maps to be added. Lots of warp gates have already been changed and altered in our version so its harder to get to certain places now nto only are the houseing warps going to be sc but they are not perm and only 7 days is just laughable. Another feature that to use it how it was meant to be we have to pay for it, again another flaw in the f2p.

Beauty shop i understand but at same time most f2p games you will get alot more choices in styles to choose from, here we get next to nothing.

Dont get me wrong here i know os is a company and needs to make money blah blah blah, but seriously alot of these things are way over priced for something that once there doesnt cost anything to repruduce yet we have top pay $25 to get

I understand and am willing to pay fro sc i have spent alot over the nearly 2 years i have been here, but os cant really justify some of these prices and how they push everything new to cs to get the full benefit of a feauture that is meant to be a free part of the game.

[Andromeda]

And as for the xmas pets. Only the new ones are nontradable.. Lol I could still trade my old ones. But that doesnt even matter cus I have a coat of arms and wedding pets anyway, that give the same bonuses.

Thy cant be traded I have a bunch from 2008 and it wasnt possible I wasnt the only one to confirm this.

[RikoRain]

Well not like theyre all that great anyway. I prefer the wedding ones over the xmas ones. Or my coat of arms.

Anyway, too true, the fact that there are several free features in the game proves tha t it isnt all abotu sc-users. It just makes it more customizable in a sense.

And as for the stat reset pill and stuff at 100... Eh think its a bad idea. If you put a few skill points in a wrong spot, then whats the big fuss in spending 5$ to restat 10 of them? Most ppl either go one way or the other, and most people dont put points on weapon specific skills like trip/bleed (I dont know of anyone else but one person who did, and they did that after they hit 100). Besides if youre like, full str and go Knight for example, and want to change to pure end, youre gonna get that reset pill regardless.

[Andromeda]

The X-Mas pets have the same boost as the wedding pet but Any store bought pet will be better than any permanent pet since they have bad stats compared to the SC store bought ones.

For fashion you may say the marriage pet is better but realistically any of the store bought pets are better than regular/marriage/xmas/CoA pets because of stats

[GM_Nekopon]

Why all these great expansions and new features allways cost real money?

Ah, but they don't. In fact, many MMOs require you to pay to get expansions. We patch every week without asking for money. Free higher level cap and instance dungeons.

Is there any new feature, what is totally free to all?

Yes, the game is free to play. Updates are free. Events are free.

More and more sc needed, few examples:

- Some repeets dont work at all (you have to buy exp boost card)

Repeats that don't work at all meaning that you want more exp, correct? Depends on what you value more then, time? Or money? Money gives convenience, spee din this case. Is this not the same in real life? I wish I could take a cab everywhere. Sadly, I'm stuck with the public trains and buses.

- Fashion + angel and demons events (you have to buy costume)

You did not need costumes to attend these events. In fact, none of Fiesta's events require you to have any SC purchases. Sometimes players with the required SC item might get a bonus though. The prizes are often with Sparkcash items, too. The last one we had was a lovely gamr of hide-and-seek with Queen Neptune and Aquarius. First 10 people to find each of them on each server got Sneaky Raccoons for free.

- New vacuum pet (you have to buy sc pet, OR spare you xmas pet, what changed
NON treidable at beginning of xmas event... so this is reason why they do that...)

The reason for the non-tradable pets had nothing to do with the pet pick-up system. They were two different things. The decision was made due to harassing and farming, etc. I don't think I've seen a game yet that allows free pet auto-pick up. This is a special feature and it's definitely not required for smooth gameplay. I abuse my "2" key.

- New housing system (you have to use sc for some functions)

The house itself is free already. Yes, we could have ask for you to purchase it but decided not to because everyone needs a home. <3 My relatives let me stay at their place sometimes but I still have to get my own furniture and food.

- Enchancing items (you have to buy sc stones, it is not possible to get +9 WITHOUT sc)

"Possible"? I'm not sure, the highest I've ever got without SC is +8, that was in several hours of trying. Again, Money or Power? Take your pick or have really good luck.

- All normal costumes are same to all (you need sc suit to be a little unique)

"Normal" costumes to you are "normal" because they don't cost SC. If we made your "normal" costumes cost SC, would they still be called "normal"? I'm not sure what you're comparing here...

- You are new player and you mess your build (you need sc to fix it)
- You are new player and you mess your skills (you need sc to fix it)

Nope, you can also make a new character which is free. Should a character not know their build within 20-40 levels of their character? That can be obtained in a week or two. Then you don't need SC to fix it. :]


- Characters has too little amount of stones (you need soul stone carrier)

Too little stones? The Soul Stone Carrier feature is so new to our version of Fiesta, almost every player I know can live without it. You can also get pots or party with clerics for heals.

Ok, many thing is small and little, but if you want to really enjoy on this game you
have to invest a big amount of money in every month... And when you do...
what they give us as reward? Huge lag, screen freezes totally 3sec, and meanwhile
all mobs have killed your char...

Lag, crashes, etc. cannot be avoided. It happens to me all the time even with the MMOs I play that are P2P. I play squishy characters. I get mad, and I lose exp when I die from lag/freezes. But P2P games don't have EXP boost cards or Blessing of Teva to remedy the lost EXP. :(

Wedding pets are sc items too, they dont have vacuum skill...

Wedding pets are not SC pets. They're a bonus for buying the application.

1 hour war rants what you get as rewards give more drops then sc war rant,

If it gives you more rewards, what's the problem?

ok i am done, but please Outspark and OnONSoft, give us something valuable,
when we give you so so much real life money. And i mean to those players
too, who cant use real money to play a game.

[lolznplz]

nearly every event though, is just advertising for some new CS item. not only that, but when you say that many F2P MMO's have cash shops to support their servers and what not, that's true. but the premium items don't make those games so unbalanced to the point where PvP becomes impossible for non-paying players.

I don't understand why you guys don't just make this game P2P already, it's already halfway there (especially housing system warps being temp...). but i guess you'd actually lose money like that, since you wouldn't have players spending $100/month.

[Sparkleh]

I don't understand why you guys don't just make this game P2P already, it's already halfway there (especially housing system warps being temp...). but i guess you'd actually lose money like that, since you wouldn't have players spending $100/month.

Because of "Free" idea. A lot of people won't even try game when they see it's P2P. Like this they have feeling they are playing free game which is really not. It seems better when you know you don't have to pay or buy anything but you're actually paying much much more then for any actually P2P game. It's just a messed up way of thinking and brilliant way for companies to make money.

Although some games have it worse. In some you can't finish quest without sc item lol But then, that same item can be sold/bought in game vendor for game currency.

[GM_Nekopon]

nearly every event though, is just advertising for some new CS item. not only that, but when you say that many F2P MMO's have cash shops to support their servers and what not, that's true. but the premium items don't make those games so unbalanced to the point where PvP becomes impossible for non-paying players.

I don't understand why you guys don't just make this game P2P already, it's already halfway there (especially housing system warps being temp...). but i guess you'd actually lose money like that, since you wouldn't have players spending $100/month.

An average person on this planet right now gets revealed to almost 3000 ads per day whether they know it or not. You don't buy everything you see. The events are free to play anyway, but it also makes it even more fun for people that bought the SC item. Great for both non-SC and SC users.

Outspark will remain free to play. It's up to the players to decide if they want to pay for those premium items or not.

[Plushii]

[I]- Characters has too little amount of stones (you need soul stone carrier)

Too little stones? The Soul Stone Carrier feature is so new to our version of Fiesta, almost every player I know can live without it. You can also get pots or party with clerics for heals.


Archers have a hard time with stones though, even WITH the carrier ^^
They're a solo class, so I don't really understand why they're stuck with 118 hp stones at high lvls.
I use the carrier.
When I kite I have to restone every 40-50 min, imagine that without carrier xD

[lolznplz]

An average person on this planet right now gets revealed to almost 3000 ads per day whether they know it or not. You don't buy everything you see. The events are free to play anyway, but it also makes it even more fun for people that bought the SC item. Great for both non-SC and SC users.

yes but i don't pay attention to those ads, heck, 99% of them i assume are viruses, why would i click on a virus? and the advertising that other companies do doesn't affect me, the advertising that OS does with events is just making sure everyone knows that a new SC item is out so that the paying players can have yet another advantage over the average joe.

[GM_Nekopon]

Archers have a hard time with stones though, even WITH the carrier ^^
They're a solo class, so I don't really understand why they're stuck with 118 hp stones at high lvls.
I use the carrier.
When I kite I have to restone every 40-50 min, imagine that without carrier xD

Again, it's a time vs money thing. Having more stones is a convenience. You can also choose to party with a cleric or get pots. Personally, I have an archer and I play with another archer (Yay, archer duos!). We play with no SC, and we go back maybe every 30 minutes.


yes but i don't pay attention to those ads, heck, 99% of them i assume are viruses, why would i click on a virus? and the advertising that other companies do doesn't affect me, the advertising that OS does with events is just making sure everyone knows that a new SC item is out so that the paying players can have yet another advantage over the average joe.

I mean.. like... outside as well. Billboards, train stations, etc. They advertise food, clothing, daily supplies, surely they affect you too as you have the option to purchase these items to make your life better as OS offers SC items for people to purchase to give them convenience as well. But in our case, people can enjoy the events these items give even without purchasing them.

[GM_RoboPanda]

I mean.. like... outside as well. Billboards, train stations, etc. They advertise food, clothing, daily supplies.[/QUOTE]

As a wise man once said, "Yes in my age we had ads on buildings. And buses... in magazines, on television, before movies, on the internet, in books, and on benches and in the sky. But, NEVER in our dreams."

[lolznplz]

the main point i was trying to originally get across is that the events are just advertisements for SC. "participate in this event and win a free raccoon"
"participate in this event, and then go buy the new outfit from the store"

why can't we just have events? where we win in game money, or some crazy unique weapon/piece of armor?
or a server-wide xp boost (granted i haven't been around for a while, so i wouldn't know if you've had one or not in the last few months).
something everyone can enjoy that doesn't just advertise SC crap

EDIT:

As a wise man once said, "Yes in my age we had ads on buildings. And buses... in magazines, on television, before movies, on the internet, in books, and on benches and in the sky. But, NEVER in our dreams."
that's deeeeep

[RikoRain]

Lol twooo centtsss, even the items in your own bedroom are advertising to you. Books and magazines dont have those pretty fronts/covers on them for nothing. Logo's on guitars or other musical intrsuments, tags on dolls/stuffed animals, the lil logo stamp on your tv, posters you have, clothes you wear have logo's on them and such. The bags you carry your books in.

Lil logo's / covers on things arent just there for design, but as an advertising tactic.

>> kinda freaky when you think about it. Your fav shirt turns you into a walking advertisement.

[GM_Nekopon]

the main point i was trying to originally get across is that the events are just advertisements for SC. "participate in this event and win a free raccoon"
"participate in this event, and then go buy the new outfit from the store"

why can't we just have events? where we win in game money, or some crazy unique weapon/piece of armor?
or a server-wide xp boost (granted i haven't been around for a while, so i wouldn't know if you've had one or not in the last few months).
something everyone can enjoy that doesn't just advertise SC crap

EDIT:

that's deeeeep

Simply because we can advertise the items as we wish to and it doesn't mean you have to buy it. It shouldn't affect your gameplay at all. In fact, it gives the events have a theme. Not just the same boring stuff.

And you do win things in events. We never give out in-game money, you can earn that on your own. We've given out over 250 free PERM honeying tanktops for free events since Janurary 7th.

[Hemmes]

Hmm difficult discussion. As far as advertising goes, i cant say i mind. Business is business, as long as your not being tricked into anything im fine with it.
I understand the need for SC, i agree with cool outfits and +10's (i could even buy them in game), movers and pets are all good as well just as potions and weddings.

However I do think 100% exp boosts, teva's and war rants make people lazy. 100% exp...that means people lvl twice as fast. Add up:
The extra damage --> kill mobs faster
Higher def/hp --> bigger mobs
War rant --> quest items drop faster
Teva --> never losing exp
More stones --> less often having to go to town
Faster mover --> less travel time
How many times more exp you think full CS item user can get in an hour? 5 times? 10 times even? I dont know... but imo too much.

Nothing wrong with SC and ads but i think the advantage shouldnt get too big.

[lolznplz]

bro, that ship has sailed

[Hemmes]

Myeah your probably right, im just saying this before the 200% exp boost comes out. :P

[kevinyou40]

The reason for the non-tradable pets had nothing to do with the pet pick-up system. They were two different things. The decision was made due to harassing and farming, etc. I don't think I've seen a game yet that allows free pet auto-pick up. This is a special feature and it's definitely not required for smooth gameplay. I abuse my "2" key.

I think the pets are fine if there are some free ones in the game. Btw <removed> is a game with free pets like this but they are animated, need rest, can build differant weps and armors based on type and can run away. lol it's all pretty funny but now you know one.

The house itself is free already. Yes, we could have ask for you to purchase it but decided not to because everyone needs a home. <3 My relatives let me stay at their place sometimes but I still have to get my own furniture and food.

Nothing to say as i have not seen it yet.

"Possible"? I'm not sure, the highest I've ever got without SC is +8, that was in several hours of trying. Again, Money or Power? Take your pick or have really good luck.

ok, i have tryed and have only been able to get a tier1 enhancment to +8 but 2 3 4 and 5 i have not got passed 5 on wep and not past 4 on armors. this feature is impossable to get +9 or +10 at any higher lvl. look back and find 1 person that has done it for each and i'll say different.

"Normal" costumes to you are "normal" because they don't cost SC. If we made your "normal" costumes cost SC, would they still be called "normal"? I'm not sure what you're comparing here...

i Agree with this one.

Nope, you can also make a new character which is free. Should a character not know their build within 20-40 levels of their character? That can be obtained in a week or two. Then you don't need SC to fix it. :]


Here is a problem, it takes 2 weeks to get it. thats just silly and you don't learn your skills in that time. lvl'ing in the low lvl's is to easy now.
my thoughts

[standalonecomplex]

Just deal with it and stop caring XD as a free player for 2 years ( joined dec 07) i've dealt with a lot of junk from everyone and everything in the game.
there's no point in even trying just find something you like to do in the game and have fun!
basicly all i do is make stuff and sell it to those people that want them so i can try to make 1 gem XD ( my goal lol never made it yet closest i got was 30g )

[GigiBunny]

Archers have a hard time with stones though, even WITH the carrier ^^
They're a solo class, so I don't really understand why they're stuck with 118 hp stones at high lvls.
I use the carrier.
When I kite I have to restone every 40-50 min, imagine that without carrier xD


Again, it's a time vs money thing. Having more stones is a convenience. You can also choose to party with a cleric or get pots. Personally, I have an archer and I play with another archer (Yay, archer duos!). We play with no SC, and we go back maybe every 30 minutes.
[/COLOR]

We are talking about a true solo class that does not have to solo at all if it chooses ;) however, good points brought up from both of you. As everyone knows, I use sc a lot. I have been using the Stone Pak Carrier thing for a long time now. I used to buy the lvling pack just to get it. :O as an Archer, I can tell you it helps me tremendously and I recommend it to everyone if I can.

At 9x levels, where you run out of quests and must grind to level, the time and convenience obviously go hand in hand: you can grind alone and invest in pots and stones (with or without extra carrier) and go from there..or you can (as GM Neko states), party with a cleric or as she does, with a fellow archer and duo.

And I happen to know of a 9x on Epith not using SC to grind...he is lvl 93 now and I have to say: I admire him so. What a feat! When he caps, I will be one of the first to conratulate him on a long, hard yet worth it journey :D

and ofc, you can quest without sc items.. though at 9x levels, I imagine it must be really really hard :confused:

to the OP: sc costumes make you unique..hmmm maybe for a while..but soon everyone is wearing the same costume, so where does the uniqueness come in? I believe that purchasing sc costumes may make you look different and offer perks sometimes (whether permanent, crit bonus, m.def and/or def. bonus) but everyone has armor, everyone gets a chance to wear their armor as normal or get a sc costume to look a 'little unique'

Also,lag happens everywhere :( sadly... it is part of a true gaming life. You die. You come back to life. No one should play as they are infallible "god" , etc. Part of the game is dying, coming back to life, and going at it again. I don't play as if I will never die, whether or not lag help and monsters mob and kill my archer body *insert dramatic fall* but, I accept that. Yes, lag is bad.. I don't care who you are: it is not a good, fun thing. But if it causes you to die :( as I am sure it has for majority of us, you can move on and accept it or dwell on it and blame... uhm.. game? creator? err... Oo well I think you get my idea.

:o

[mystiq_dreams]

As far as lag, screen freezing, etc.? This is bound to happen in all online games at some point. We experience lag here at Outspark, free players experience lag, people that pay monthly for their MMO experience lag. Sometimes there some things we can do, and sometimes there are some things that players can do on their end to solve this (changing graphic settings, for example). Spending money and lag are in no way related, whatsoever.


They arent related, but actually they are... Eny other mmo they focus hard on
killing lags on servers, as pointing player funding to make game better...
Here focus is on new show off sc items...
In in high level when you die on lags, you lose huge amount of exp, you can prevent
this premium items as Teva, but without it, it starts annoy when you get 3 sec lag,
and you cannot heal or enything, you just die = lose exp, then to cover this you may
wanna buy exp card... but without sc levelling is hard.

And Vacuum pick-up dont work all 1 mounth sc pets, At least Mini Dragon +10 dont
work... But xmas work, Wedding doesent, allthough you pay your pet (and i know
that it is "premium item"), but item that costs, and yes it gives unfair situation compare
to sc store 1 month pets, but as unfair is xmas pets compare to wedding pets, both gives +2 stats, and yes you get love buff and stuff, but pet gives that +2 stat increase.

And what comes to enchant... It goes allmost imposible to get +9's at high tiers,
and when you need those mostly... and then we get to my solution : High need =
cost a lot of money... and i undestand business, and business is business, but
what about this: More happy customers = More money?

Just my thoughs, and still i love this game, much more then any other mmo!
Thanks for great game, but with little more efforts it could be a lot better!!

[GM_Nekopon]

Answers in Indigo.


The reason for the non-tradable pets had nothing to do with the pet pick-up system. They were two different things. The decision was made due to harassing and farming, etc. I don't think I've seen a game yet that allows free pet auto-pick up. This is a special feature and it's definitely not required for smooth gameplay. I abuse my "2" key.

I think the pets are fine if there are some free ones in the game. Btw <removed> is a game with free pets like this but they are animated, need rest, can build differant weps and armors based on type and can run away. lol it's all pretty funny but now you know one.

There are free ones in game. Honeying, Kebing, Slime. I close beta-ed the game you've mentioned however, their game is focused on these pets. As a feature that is meant to help you with a number of things. Including gathering and crafting. And guess what? You can do that yourself in Fiesta without the help of a pet. All in all, the two games are completely different and the pets I don't feel is something that is comparable with.

The house itself is free already. Yes, we could have ask for you to purchase it but decided not to because everyone needs a home. <3 My relatives let me stay at their place sometimes but I still have to get my own furniture and food.

Nothing to say as i have not seen it yet.

"Possible"? I'm not sure, the highest I've ever got without SC is +8, that was in several hours of trying. Again, Money or Power? Take your pick or have really good luck.

ok, i have tryed and have only been able to get a tier1 enhancment to +8 but 2 3 4 and 5 i have not got passed 5 on wep and not past 4 on armors. this feature is impossable to get +9 or +10 at any higher lvl. look back and find 1 person that has done it for each and i'll say different.

I wish I could get a new 360 but I don't have enough money. Guess I can't finish my games.

"Normal" costumes to you are "normal" because they don't cost SC. If we made your "normal" costumes cost SC, would they still be called "normal"? I'm not sure what you're comparing here...

i Agree with this one.

Nope, you can also make a new character which is free. Should a character not know their build within 20-40 levels of their character? That can be obtained in a week or two. Then you don't need SC to fix it. :]


Here is a problem, it takes 2 weeks to get it. thats just silly and you don't learn your skills in that time. lvl'ing in the low lvl's is to easy now.

Then you should take the time to learn how to use your skills. Having a reset won't help you with that.





They arent related, but actually they are... Eny other mmo they focus hard on
killing lags on servers, as pointing player funding to make game better...
Here focus is on new show off sc items...
In in high level when you die on lags, you lose huge amount of exp, you can prevent
this premium items as Teva, but without it, it starts annoy when you get 3 sec lag,
and you cannot heal or enything, you just die = lose exp, then to cover this you may
wanna buy exp card... but without sc levelling is hard.

Again, other games have lag as well. We also focus on fixing the game. You can view my list of things that are being worked on and fixed on the sticky in general discussions (here) and the weekly OSKI to see our patches for that week.

And Vacuum pick-up dont work all 1 mounth sc pets, At least Mini Dragon +10 dont
work... But xmas work, Wedding doesent, allthough you pay your pet (and i know
that it is "premium item"), but item that costs, and yes it gives unfair situation compare
to sc store 1 month pets, but as unfair is xmas pets compare to wedding pets, both gives +2 stats, and yes you get love buff and stuff, but pet gives that +2 stat increase.

Again, we've been looking into this problem with the mini pets. They're not completely fixed at the moment since they are new, it seems there will be some changes that will be made.

And what comes to enchant... It goes allmost imposible to get +9's at high tiers,
and when you need those mostly... and then we get to my solution : High need =
cost a lot of money... and i undestand business, and business is business, but
what about this: More happy customers = More money?

If I could play my game forever for free, I'd be happy. Oh wait...

SC suits give crit, enhancement bundles gives you the ultimate edge on enhancing. Money makes my 360 work, sadly I have none. :(

Just my thoughs, and still i love this game, much more then any other mmo!
Thanks for great game, but with little more efforts it could be a lot better!!

[Takimi]

I abuse my "2" key.

Too little stones? The Soul Stone Carrier feature is so new to our version of Fiesta, almost every player I know can live without it. You can also get pots or party with clerics for heals.



I abuse my #2 key as well <3 I'm known as a drop hog. And it's called skills to stretch stones. If you have issues with stones as an Archer- go practice your kiting. You obviously aren't kiting right if you loose stones that fast (and maybe take a look at your build- defense and evasion are important to an archer).



Archers have a hard time with stones though, even WITH the carrier ^^
They're a solo class, so I don't really understand why they're stuck with 118 hp stones at high lvls.
I use the carrier.
When I kite I have to restone every 40-50 min, imagine that without carrier xD


Yup. But I will never use one Koi~ =) The only SC stuffs I use is outfits 'cause I think they're pretty. And when my boyfriend decides to gift me something fun. Like extenders/charms/spark cash pot. Oh, and I have permanent movers, but those were gifts too. The only other thing I use spark cash for is the fuel. I stopped buying mini houses when the insanely cute fishy windmill left.



Hmm difficult discussion. As far as advertising goes, i cant say i mind. Business is business, as long as your not being tricked into anything im fine with it.
I understand the need for SC, i agree with cool outfits and +10's (i could even buy them in game), movers and pets are all good as well just as potions and weddings.

However I do think 100% exp boosts, teva's and war rants make people lazy. 100% exp...that means people lvl twice as fast. Add up:
The extra damage --> kill mobs faster
Higher def/hp --> bigger mobs
War rant --> quest items drop faster
Teva --> never losing exp
More stones --> less often having to go to town
Faster mover --> less travel time
How many times more exp you think full CS item user can get in an hour? 5 times? 10 times even? I dont know... but imo too much.

Nothing wrong with SC and ads but i think the advantage shouldnt get too big.


Totally off-topic, but:

Hello my fellow Robert Jordan fan!!! Huzzah to a fellow reader!~

Edite:
Neko, so the Christmas Pets won't ever be made to be tradeable? I saw a post that said they were made non-tradeable because of hogging complaints. I have 4 on one character and one on another that has a CoA already. I would really like to distribute them to friends and academy students...

[evanin]

What happened with the old boss events, etc. Remember the ones that used to take place like once a week or so? Now we rarely get events and the ones we do get are mostly sc oriented -.-... Fiesta has gone down hill.

[GM_Nekopon]

You apparently haven't read our events calendar (http://outspark.com/forums/calendar.php). We have events almost everyday. SC is never required for our events.

[Takimi]

I guess you didn't see it Neko... but I'll ask it again =)



So the Christmas Pets won't ever be made to be tradeable? I saw a post that said they were made non-tradeable because of hogging complaints. I have 4 on one character and one on another that has a CoA already. I would really like to distribute them to friends and academy students...

[Cherushi]

Ah, didn't want to make a thread ~ but I want to ask if future weapon skins made available in store are going to cost 8k now? :S They used to be 6.9k or something... D: or was that sale only ? x.x

[Adrichiang]

Ah, didn't want to make a thread ~ but I want to ask if future weapon skins made available in store are going to cost 8k now? :S They used to be 6.9k or something... D: or was that sale only ? x.x

Nope,

Expect an overall rise in sparkcash prices. Due to inflation of expenses such as payroll, rent, inventory. As the Cash shop is the main source of income Outspark gains from its customers. Its is common practice among companies to have the customers pay for the increase cost of running the game if the company can not find ways to reduce their current spending and still maintain the same level of service.

[GM_Nekopon]

I guess you didn't see it Neko... but I'll ask it again =)



So the Christmas Pets won't ever be made to be tradeable? I saw a post that said they were made non-tradeable because of hogging complaints. I have 4 on one character and one on another that has a CoA already. I would really like to distribute them to friends and academy students...



Oh, I did miss that.
As far as I know... No, it won't change. Sorry!


Ah, didn't want to make a thread ~ but I want to ask if future weapon skins made available in store are going to cost 8k now? :S They used to be 6.9k or something... D: or was that sale only ? x.x

Hmm, that's not up to me. I don't touch Mr. Cash Shop at all. Perhaps another GM can help you with that question.

[Cherushi]

Aww, thanks anyway neko. I guess it has to come sooner or later QQ *preparing and scared for the upcoming price increases T.T*

[lolznplz]

wow neko, you're response to indigo was just rediculous. what does your broken 360 and unfinished games have to do with failed enhancing? i guess i kind of understand it, but it's a very loose comparison. no offense, but you're bad at answering questions without seeming to avoid the question in some way or another.

and i think the game is rigged to stop break things at +8 on t1 lol. i was enhancing a few t1 shields, got 'em to +8, broke as i tried for +9. twice. anger ensued.

[zipiouch]

Why all these great expansions and new features allways cost real money?

Ah, but they don't. In fact, many MMOs require you to pay to get expansions. We patch every week without asking for money. Free higher level cap and instance dungeons.

Is there any new feature, what is totally free to all?

Yes, the game is free to play. Updates are free. Events are free.

More and more sc needed, few examples:

- Some repeets dont work at all (you have to buy exp boost card)

Repeats that don't work at all meaning that you want more exp, correct? Depends on what you value more then, time? Or money? Money gives convenience, spee din this case. Is this not the same in real life? I wish I could take a cab everywhere. Sadly, I'm stuck with the public trains and buses.

- Fashion + angel and demons events (you have to buy costume)

You did not need costumes to attend these events. In fact, none of Fiesta's events require you to have any SC purchases. Sometimes players with the required SC item might get a bonus though. The prizes are often with Sparkcash items, too. The last one we had was a lovely gamr of hide-and-seek with Queen Neptune and Aquarius. First 10 people to find each of them on each server got Sneaky Raccoons for free.

- New vacuum pet (you have to buy sc pet, OR spare you xmas pet, what changed
NON treidable at beginning of xmas event... so this is reason why they do that...)

The reason for the non-tradable pets had nothing to do with the pet pick-up system. They were two different things. The decision was made due to harassing and farming, etc. I don't think I've seen a game yet that allows free pet auto-pick up. This is a special feature and it's definitely not required for smooth gameplay. I abuse my "2" key.

- New housing system (you have to use sc for some functions)

The house itself is free already. Yes, we could have ask for you to purchase it but decided not to because everyone needs a home. <3 My relatives let me stay at their place sometimes but I still have to get my own furniture and food.

- Enchancing items (you have to buy sc stones, it is not possible to get +9 WITHOUT sc)

"Possible"? I'm not sure, the highest I've ever got without SC is +8, that was in several hours of trying. Again, Money or Power? Take your pick or have really good luck.

- All normal costumes are same to all (you need sc suit to be a little unique)

"Normal" costumes to you are "normal" because they don't cost SC. If we made your "normal" costumes cost SC, would they still be called "normal"? I'm not sure what you're comparing here...

- You are new player and you mess your build (you need sc to fix it)
- You are new player and you mess your skills (you need sc to fix it)

Nope, you can also make a new character which is free. Should a character not know their build within 20-40 levels of their character? That can be obtained in a week or two. Then you don't need SC to fix it. :]


- Characters has too little amount of stones (you need soul stone carrier)

Too little stones? The Soul Stone Carrier feature is so new to our version of Fiesta, almost every player I know can live without it. You can also get pots or party with clerics for heals.

Ok, many thing is small and little, but if you want to really enjoy on this game you
have to invest a big amount of money in every month... And when you do...
what they give us as reward? Huge lag, screen freezes totally 3sec, and meanwhile
all mobs have killed your char...

Lag, crashes, etc. cannot be avoided. It happens to me all the time even with the MMOs I play that are P2P. I play squishy characters. I get mad, and I lose exp when I die from lag/freezes. But P2P games don't have EXP boost cards or Blessing of Teva to remedy the lost EXP. :(

Wedding pets are sc items too, they dont have vacuum skill...

Wedding pets are not SC pets. They're a bonus for buying the application.

1 hour war rants what you get as rewards give more drops then sc war rant,

If it gives you more rewards, what's the problem?

ok i am done, but please Outspark and OnONSoft, give us something valuable,
when we give you so so much real life money. And i mean to those players
too, who cant use real money to play a game.

OP dude, you just got pwned my Teh One And Only Neko.

-**** kissing mode activated-

[GM_Nekopon]

wow neko, you're response to indigo was just rediculous. what does your broken 360 and unfinished games have to do with failed enhancing? i guess i kind of understand it, but it's a very loose comparison. no offense, but you're bad at answering questions without seeming to avoid the question in some way or another.

and i think the game is rigged to stop break things at +8 on t1 lol. i was enhancing a few t1 shields, got 'em to +8, broke as i tried for +9. twice. anger ensued.

So what's your assumption that makes your comparison better? That you think it's rigged? I'm answering the questions with similar situations in the world outside of Outspark, not avoiding them. (If I told you straight up, "No, it's not rigged." would you believe me?)


OP dude, you just got pwned my Teh One And Only Neko.

-**** kissing mode activated-

It's not like that... Just wanted to give some insight, that's all.

[Takimi]

A lot of people think it's rigged, myself I just stopped enhancing for +9 and do it for fun.

I still want to know about the Christmas Pets. Am I going to have to destroy them or what?

[grummin]

I still want to know about the Christmas Pets. Am I going to have to destroy them or what?



Based on Nekopon's response to the first time you asked, yes you'll have to destroy them.







So the Christmas Pets won't ever be made to be tradeable?.




Oh, I did miss that.
As far as I know... No, it won't change. Sorry!

[Takimi]

o.o

NOOOOO

Oh well T.T

5 perfectly good pets are about to be destroyed.

T.T

[lolznplz]

So what's your assumption that makes your comparison better? That you think it's rigged? I'm answering the questions with similar situations in the world outside of Outspark, not avoiding them. (If I told you straight up, "No, it's not rigged." would you believe me?)

i was just joking about the rigged enhancing part lol. but i do think that the chance of getting a +8, and the chance of getting +9 are very different.

but you do avoid questions. or answer them quite loosely.

[Dthugtherealist]

Eh for lots of people including me its not about the SC balance issue lots of items are needed its about the cost of em. The fact that you can sometimes spend 50$ and not even get a +9/10 is very sad.

[bigb4ever18]

Eh for lots of people including me its not about the SC balance issue lots of items are needed its about the cost of em. The fact that you can sometimes spend 50$ and not even get a +9/10 is very sad.

OOOOOOOK!!!! For realz......spending 50 USA DALLAHS!!! To enhance and not get a +9 it is outrageous.....and not only that....but now they said that they're going to increase the prices of the sc items?????? PAH LEEEEZE!!!

You guys go on about how this is a F2P game and it is.....but honey....yah for get to say something like this....."But if ya'll wants to get to lvl 100 you bettah get some cookies,exp boost, and some puuurty teva." And that's only if you're a fighter/cleric. But if you so happen to be a Mage or an Archer.......guuuuuurrrrlll!!! You're gonna end up spending 100$+ a month.

Sure The GMs can say that the sc shop items are only there for our own convenience.....but really? REALLY? Why is the game soo inconvenient in the first place?Why is so hard to kill a mob whit out +9 armor and weapons? And even still when some classes like mages/archers are fully +9 and have +9 weapons, they still have a hard time killing the mobs needed to lvl.....there for they cookie up and use exp boosts.

Becuase at lvl 91 there's hardly any quests....and if you were to try kill your way all the way to 100 without exp boost,cookies,teva,charms,ext, and sc suit......well let's just say this game would be closed before you ever accomplished that.

And don't even get me started about the lag.....uuggghhh!!!!
I've played many other games and I've never experienced lag so horrible like this.

So my solution to this would be fix w/e unbalances you guys have going on with the success rate of enhancing and the builds of the classes.And stop the price gauging.

Cus if this game where to ever even think about becoming P2P it would just fail.....It just couldn't compete with all the other P2P games out there that have more better content and less lag.

And just on a final note....I would like a GM to tell me if this is or isn't true..... To enjoy this whole game and I mean everything including the prestige class.....To enjoy EVERYTHING in this game you don't need SC?

[Dthugtherealist]

OOOOOOOK!!!! For realz......spending 50 USA DALLAHS!!! To enhance and not get a +9 it is outrageous.....and not only that....but now they said that they're going to increase the prices of the sc items?????? PAH LEEEEZE!!!

You guys go on about how this is a F2P game and it is.....but honey....yah for get to say something like this....."But if ya'll wants to get to lvl 100 you bettah get some cookies,exp boost, and some puuurty teva." And that's only if you're a fighter/cleric. But if so happen to be a Mage or an Archer.......guuuuuurrrrlll!!! You're gonna end up spending 100$+ a month.

Sure The GMs can say that the sc shop items are only there for our own convenience.....but really? REALLY? Why is the game soo inconvenient in the first place?Why is so hard to kill a mob why out +9 armor and weapons? And even still when some classes like mages/archers are fully +9 and have +9 weapons, they still have a hard time killing the mobs need to lvl.....there for they cookie up and use exp boosts.

Becuase at lvl 91 there's hardly any quests....and if you were to try kill your way all the way to 100 without exp boost,cookies,teva,charms,ext, and sc suit......well let's just say this game would be closed before you ever accomplished that.

And don't even get me started about the lag.....uuggghhh!!!!
I've played many other games and I've never experienced lag so horrible like this.

So my solution to this would be fix w/e unbalances you guys have going on with the success rate of enhancing and the builds of the classes.And stop the price gauging.

Cus if this game where to ever even think about becoming P2P it would just fail.....It just couldn't compete with all the other P2P games out there that have more better content and less lag.

And just on a final note....I would like a GM or tell this this isn't true..... To enjoy this whole game and I mean everything including the prestige class.....To enjoy EVERYTHING in this game you don't need SC?

Yea honestly this is all true if OS was smart they'd put all the SC items made em buyable with in game money to be sold in NPC's and colaborated with Gold Selling companies and just sold em all the Gems they made from such a system OS would be rich as hell. We got people with too much money sitting around that don't really need it to just buy in game things.

[Shinrikidu]

OOOOOOOK!!!! For realz......spending 50 USA DALLAHS!!! To enhance and not get a +9 it is outrageous.....and not only that....but now they said that they're going to increase the prices of the sc items?????? PAH LEEEEZE!!!

You guys go on about how this is a F2P game and it is.....but honey....yah for get to say something like this....."But if ya'll wants to get to lvl 100 you bettah get some cookies,exp boost, and some puuurty teva." And that's only if you're a fighter/cleric. But if you so happen to be a Mage or an Archer.......guuuuuurrrrlll!!! You're gonna end up spending 100$+ a month.

Sure The GMs can say that the sc shop items are only there for our own convenience.....but really? REALLY? Why is the game soo inconvenient in the first place?Why is so hard to kill a mob why out +9 armor and weapons? And even still when some classes like mages/archers are fully +9 and have +9 weapons, they still have a hard time killing the mobs needed to lvl.....there for they cookie up and use exp boosts.

Becuase at lvl 91 there's hardly any quests....and if you were to try kill your way all the way to 100 without exp boost,cookies,teva,charms,ext, and sc suit......well let's just say this game would be closed before you ever accomplished that.

And don't even get me started about the lag.....uuggghhh!!!!
I've played many other games and I've never experienced lag so horrible like this.

So my solution to this would be fix w/e unbalances you guys have going on with the success rate of enhancing and the builds of the classes.And stop the price gauging.

Cus if this game where to ever even think about becoming P2P it would just fail.....It just couldn't compete with all the other P2P games out there that have more better content and less lag.

And just on a final note....I would like a GM or tell this this isn't true..... To enjoy this whole game and I mean everything including the prestige class.....To enjoy EVERYTHING in this game you don't need SC?

Tell it like it is GUUUURL!!!! Let them have it in it's most raw pure form. lol

[ShonenHero]

but you do avoid questions. or answer them quite loosely.

I wouldn`t say she avoids them when she`s the only staff member posting here, and the GM that has the highest level of rapport with the players

As she said, blunt answers tend to enrage people. She decides to apply a friendly approach

[lolznplz]

OOOOOOOK!!!! For realz......spending 50 USA DALLAHS!!! To enhance and not get a +9 it is outrageous.....and not only that....but now they said that they're going to increase the prices of the sc items?????? PAH LEEEEZE!!!

You guys go on about how this is a F2P game and it is.....but honey....yah for get to say something like this....."But if ya'll wants to get to lvl 100 you bettah get some cookies,exp boost, and some puuurty teva." And that's only if you're a fighter/cleric. But if you so happen to be a Mage or an Archer.......guuuuuurrrrlll!!! You're gonna end up spending 100$+ a month.

Sure The GMs can say that the sc shop items are only there for our own convenience.....but really? REALLY? Why is the game soo inconvenient in the first place?Why is so hard to kill a mob why out +9 armor and weapons? And even still when some classes like mages/archers are fully +9 and have +9 weapons, they still have a hard time killing the mobs needed to lvl.....there for they cookie up and use exp boosts.

Becuase at lvl 91 there's hardly any quests....and if you were to try kill your way all the way to 100 without exp boost,cookies,teva,charms,ext, and sc suit......well let's just say this game would be closed before you ever accomplished that.

And don't even get me started about the lag.....uuggghhh!!!!
I've played many other games and I've never experienced lag so horrible like this.

So my solution to this would be fix w/e unbalances you guys have going on with the success rate of enhancing and the builds of the classes.And stop the price gauging.

Cus if this game where to ever even think about becoming P2P it would just fail.....It just couldn't compete with all the other P2P games out there that have more better content and less lag.

And just on a final note....I would like a GM or tell this this isn't true..... To enjoy this whole game and I mean everything including the prestige class.....To enjoy EVERYTHING in this game you don't need SC?
quoted for brutal honesty.