Academies Are Ripp Offs. ~.~

[crazyplay]

On My archer, she's lvl 39 now, but b4 I "got" her to lvl 39 I had my archer join a academy Called <removed>, I lvled up, and all I got was a blue Christmas stocking!!!!! NO SILVER! And in this other academy called <removed>, (think that's how you spell it on fiesta) I got nothing at all!!! and I looked at the description in the guild academy thing and it said HAHA on it with a : ) at the end of it. I quit that academy right there. And today I got banned from the academy <removed> for telling someone I got only 6silver when I lvled up to lvl 39 on my archer I got. I told the person I was talking to I got 6s, then there was silence and then next moment, I got banned it said, from the academy.


I'm getting upset, cuz I was trying to be in academy cuz me, I can nvr sell my items in my mini house/shop so I like academies instead to try to earn money by lvling. And so far nothing good has happened by joining. Can someone explain whats going on?

[steelwind18]

Ok well let me begin by saying this....
Some academies are not rich, thus they will not give out silver. Some academies are rich but have so many academy members that they run out of gold fast. Some academies only put items in because they dont want to use gold on it yet. Some dont put anything because they might not want an academy. This is all up to them. I wouldnt get mad if you get little or nothing from an academy because the academies are "gifts" in a way. I know when i began there werent academies, there werent masters. im not trying to say that they are a bad thing, im just saying that if your just looking for academies for the money then id look for the richest one you can. it isnt the most popular most of the time. I know that when i hear ppl complaing in my guilds academy about the amount of money they get or the item, it makes me a little angry and makes me think that maybe they are only here for that reason. I my opinion i think an academy is there so that ppl who want to join that guild can join that guild, not to make money and items off of it. that is my opinion tho.
Your best bet is that u need to find an academy that fits you for watever reason you want to be in it.
Hope i helped

[xogeley]

If you wanna be greedy you could always check out Item Rewards/Money Rewards before leveling... also there's a thing on the top that says "Guild Funds," if they're empty you won't get any silver. If the items are grayed out, they're out of items as well.

[FatalLace]

when you're out questing or doing KQs, talk to the people u party with, see what they think of the academies that they are in. ask around, do your research. i think you're in Bijou, so keep in mind that many of the top guilds no longer open their academies or offer rewards since the guild buff (the guild's reward for a successful academy) is into the 1000s of hours already. why pour money out to get a buff that's pretty much everlasting.

u should also take a look at the academy 'leaderboard' at the guild manager. typically the highest ranked guilds there give out nice rewards because they are trying to maintain their ranking. do NOT be upset or take it personally that these guilds kick u out when you are offline. that's pretty much common practice, they do this to maximize their academy membership. the more active (in-game) players they have leveling, the more their buff grows and the the higher their weekly points total accumulates. if this does happen to u, just try your best to get back into that guild academy when u log back in, chances are that there may be a slot open if they continuously purge the academy.

hope this all helps u out. :)

[Gizuma]

Ok well let me begin by saying this....
Some academies are not rich, thus they will not give out silver. Some academies are rich but have so many academy members that they run out of gold fast. Some academies only put items in because they dont want to use gold on it yet. Some dont put anything because they might not want an academy. This is all up to them. I wouldnt get mad if you get little or nothing from an academy because the academies are "gifts" in a way. I know when i began there werent academies, there werent masters. im not trying to say that they are a bad thing, im just saying that if your just looking for academies for the money then id look for the richest one you can. it isnt the most popular most of the time. I know that when i hear ppl complaing in my guilds academy about the amount of money they get or the item, it makes me a little angry and makes me think that maybe they are only here for that reason. I my opinion i think an academy is there so that ppl who want to join that guild can join that guild, not to make money and items off of it. that is my opinion tho.
Your best bet is that u need to find an academy that fits you for watever reason you want to be in it.
Hope i helped

i could have not said this better myself. and when it comes to the money i can throw in two situations on Teva server ;p

I mainly belong to the guild GuardianAngels (not Guardian_Angels, AngelGuardians,etc. hehe too many wannabe;p) and when i jioned the rewards were pretty bad right now that I am throwing in my money in the money rewards are getting good.

In another guild Wicked_World the rewards with the previous guild masters were pathetic mainly t1 aim and t1 elrues were the rewards but with the current guild master their money reward is getting better. She says that she is having problems making money for the rewards but is so far doing good.

Point is all guilds work differently. Some reward you, some don't reward you. Some don't even want an academy. the way it works is simple. If they got the money and are willing they will reward, if they don't got the money, aren't willing to, or don't care about academy they won't. Its best to find an academy you want best. Shouting around for what kind of guild/academy you want (money rewarding,item rewarding,helpful, war active,etc.) is the best thing you should do though ;p

[Plushii]

yeah, to me acedemy's are useful to check out the guild, see if you like the guild members and if they like you so you could join them when you lvl up.

[crazyplay]

Ok well let me begin by saying this....
Some academies are not rich, thus they will not give out silver. Some academies are rich but have so many academy members that they run out of gold fast. Some academies only put items in because they dont want to use gold on it yet. Some dont put anything because they might not want an academy. This is all up to them. I wouldnt get mad if you get little or nothing from an academy because the academies are "gifts" in a way. I know when i began there werent academies, there werent masters. im not trying to say that they are a bad thing, im just saying that if your just looking for academies for the money then id look for the richest one you can. it isnt the most popular most of the time. I know that when i hear ppl complaing in my guilds academy about the amount of money they get or the item, it makes me a little angry and makes me think that maybe they are only here for that reason. I my opinion i think an academy is there so that ppl who want to join that guild can join that guild, not to make money and items off of it. that is my opinion tho.
Your best bet is that u need to find an academy that fits you for watever reason you want to be in it.
Hope i helped

Actually I do like academies that are friendly too and talk a lot but lately a lot of academies have new ppl haters in them or they just have ppl that aren't online. e.e I was talking about rewards this time b4 but yea i do like talking to ppl too. But I guess I should have said it differently b4. :/ I was mad cuz I couldn't buy my skills...(broke) Sorry.

[drigr_x]

Honestly, you shouldn't be expecting to keep supporting yourself solely off of acads. Learn to sell stuff. And don't get mad when a guild kicks you from their acad because you are complaining that you can't exploit their funds well. You have to remember that the rewards set in an acad come from the pockets of the members in that guild. I wasn't even a master for the guild I am in but when I was playing I was pretty much the ONLY person supplying the money in our acad, and tbfh it really sucks. Especially when someone says there isn't enough money, it's like the hard work you put into getting the gold that you put in the acad isn't good enough. And remember, those rewards go to ALL acad members as they lvl. If you keep a full acad and are giving out even 10s at 20-40 per lvl, you can loose a few gold in minutes.

[Dthugtherealist]

Honestly, you shouldn't be expecting to keep supporting yourself solely off of acads. Learn to sell stuff. And don't get mad when a guild kicks you from their acad because you are complaining that you can't exploit their funds well. You have to remember that the rewards set in an acad come from the pockets of the members in that guild. I wasn't even a master for the guild I am in but when I was playing I was pretty much the ONLY person supplying the money in our acad, and tbfh it really sucks. Especially when someone says there isn't enough money, it's like the hard work you put into getting the gold that you put in the acad isn't good enough. And remember, those rewards go to ALL acad members as they lvl. If you keep a full acad and are giving out even 10s at 20-40 per lvl, you can loose a few gold in minutes.

True Talk when I was the master of a guild I made sure everybody at least put 100s in sometimes I put in a couple G its agravating sometimes.

[crazyplay]

True Talk when I was the master of a guild I made sure everybody at least put 100s in sometimes I put in a couple G its agravating sometimes.

That is true. (I gotta stop thinking about myself sometimes. e.e )

[lolznplz]

On My archer, she's lvl 39 now, but b4 I "got" her to lvl 39 I had my archer join a academy Called <removed>, I lvled up, and all I got was a blue Christmas stocking!!!!! NO SILVER! And in this other academy called <removed> (think that's how you spell it on fiesta) I got nothing at all!!! and I looked at the description in the guild academy thing and it said HAHA on it with a : ) at the end of it. I quit that academy right there. And today I got banned from the academy Earth for telling someone I got only 6silver when I lvled up to lvl 39 on my archer I got. I told the person I was talking to I got 6s, then there was silence and then next moment, I got banned it said, from the academy.

I'm getting upset, cuz I was trying to be in academy cuz me, I can nvr sell my items in my mini house/shop so I like academies instead to try to earn money by lvling. And so far nothing good has happened by joining. Can someone explain whats going on?
get off my fiesta.
back in the day, we didn't even have academies. i remember logging in one day and seeing all these guild academies, i was like "*** is an academy."
the fact that people now rely on academies is rediculous.

[crazyplay]

get off my fiesta.
back in the day, we didn't even have academies. i remember logging in one day and seeing all these guild academies, i was like "*** is an academy."
the fact that people now rely on academies is rediculous.


(It's funny how you say "my fiesta" like you are the ruler of it and you are the boss/creater. Go say that to a [GM] ^ ^


Anyway, I found my answer already. So I don't need anymore answers now. :/

[Dthugtherealist]

get off my fiesta.
back in the day, we didn't even have academies. i remember logging in one day and seeing all these guild academies, i was like "*** is an academy."
the fact that people now rely on academies is rediculous.

It is Rediculous I agree with that fact low lvls got it too easy they can hit lvls way faster than before and if their smart can retain most of the money they've gained and items from being mastered not to mention the fact that back then if you were a low lvl money didn't come too quick. But you can't derail people for using a feature and just cuz you didn't get the same thing when you were lvl'ing doesn't mean you should make people feel bad because of it :rolleyes:

[lolznplz]

It is Rediculous I agree with that fact low lvls got it too easy they can hit lvls way faster than before and if their smart can retain most of the money they've gained and items from being mastered not to mention the fact that back then if you were a low lvl money didn't come too quick. But you can't derail people for using a feature and just cuz you didn't get the same thing when you were lvl'ing doesn't mean you should make people bad because of it :rolleyes:

but back then, players were a lot more self sufficient. OP can't make money because they can't find an academy with good rewards. instead of solving this problem by production skill and such, they just sit their angered.

[Dthugtherealist]

but back then, players were a lot more self sufficient. OP can't make money because they can't find an academy with good rewards. instead of solving this problem by production skill and such, they just sit their angered.

Notice I agreed with you lol I just didn't agree with how you put em down hence a neutral post? :D

[globule]

(It's funny how you say "my fiesta" like you are the ruler of it and you are the boss/creater. Go say that to a [GM] ^ ^



lol
It is because you are missing the reference...
The expression "get off my fiesta" comes from "get off my lawn".
The context being an old-timer telling "in my time..." and then telling kids "now get off my lawn!".

[tomoyo_shaina]

Hah, lucky you. You at least had academies, but you don't really NEED silver from them to level. You do fine without it...
Its just now that <60 think they DESERVE money to level from academies...

[take.]

On My archer, she's lvl 39 now, but b4 I "got" her to lvl 39 I had my archer join a academy Called <removed>, I lvled up, and all I got was a blue Christmas stocking!!!!! NO SILVER! And in this other academy called <removed>, (think that's how you spell it on fiesta) I got nothing at all!!! and I looked at the description in the guild academy thing and it said HAHA on it with a : ) at the end of it. I quit that academy right there. And today I got banned from the academy Earth for telling someone I got only 6silver when I lvled up to lvl 39 on my archer I got. I told the person I was talking to I got 6s, then there was silence and then next moment, I got banned it said, from the academy.


I'm getting upset, cuz I was trying to be in academy cuz me, I can nvr sell my items in my mini house/shop so I like academies instead to try to earn money by lvling. And so far nothing good has happened by joining. Can someone explain whats going on?

Sounds to me like you should try a different academy. Obviously you seem unhappy with the one your in.

[cheshiregriffin]

I kind of like the academy idea, I joined Earth about a month ago and its so far been a great acad. Of course I didnt join for the rewards, it was to meet people to lvl with and do acad events. The higher up lvls also are very helpful to the lowr lvls, especially the clerics, they do rounds buffing those online that are in the acad.

[lolznplz]

Sounds to me like you should try a different game. Obviously you seem unhappy with the one your in.

10charrrrr

[Dragonfly77]

Well, on the flip side, do newbies now have the same economy we did when we were newbies? Probably not... Nowadays, you can barely find decent gear without forking over a few gold.

Besides, I've seen some pretty rude rip off academies. They go and shout their rewards (like 500s a level..what the heck?), get a flood of players, and mess with them by giving them nada. But, they still get their nice academy buff.

That, and some guilds are just rude. When my alt couldn't join my guild's acad because it was full, I joined a random one. Turns out I ran into one of the admin's alts during questing, and got her mad at me. She thought I was a newbie, and tried to 'show me up' with her main. She then wanted to ban me from academy by inviting me into the guild, and kicking me off from there. I know what she's doing, because I'm not a newbie...

So, yep, I can see why the OP is peeved with the academy systems. But you have to remember not all guilds are like that. There are a lot of golden ones out there. Just talk with people to find out which academy is good.

[lolznplz]

Well, on the flip side, do newbies now have the same economy we did when we were newbies? Probably not... Nowadays, you can barely find decent gear without forking over a few gold.

:O
you don't need +9's. heck, i only buy statted equips at lvl 30 (white equips until then) and then when you're done with them, sell 'em for a few silver extra to buy statted 40's etc. combine this with production skills and vending, questing and selling mats, you can make money in no time.

[Dragonfly77]

:O
you don't need +9's. heck, i only buy statted equips at lvl 30 (white equips until then) and then when you're done with them, sell 'em for a few silver extra to buy statted 40's etc. combine this with production skills and vending, questing and selling mats, you can make money in no time.

Personally, I had nice statted gears since 2x and up, but I only joined academies from level 36-40. But this was when gears were affordable. Now when I look at gear prices for my alts, even for a swing top I have to pay almost 2g...and the stats suck.

[lolznplz]

Personally, I had nice statted gears since 2x and up, but I only joined academies from level 36-40. But this was when gears were affordable. Now when I look at gear prices for my alts, even for a swing top I have to pay almost 2g...and the stats suck.

you gettin' scammed...but i guess prices are going up a lot. i won't lie, i like, my academy has been very helpful, but once you get some money, and get somethin' going, everything just seems to start working itself out.

[Dragonfly77]

you gettin' scammed...but i guess prices are going up a lot. i won't lie, i like, my academy has been very helpful, but once you get some money, and get somethin' going, everything just seems to start working itself out.

I didn't buy the top XD no way am I paying that much for something that useless...

Besides, academies are supposed to help players, not pay for an academy buff. There's a lot of academies that don't have good rewards, but the guildies will help you out even more, like lending gears and giving you scrolls.

[zephyr_wind]

It's attitudes like this that made me happy the day I gave up master of my old guild. It was a huge slap in the face to have acads say my rewards weren't that good or as good as another guilds when I had put a lot of time in trying to get things they could use for quest and give a decent amount of money that wouldn't leave my character broke in the process. However there were times when I would make a good bit of money from selling something and the bulk of my profits would go in what was my guild at the time =/

[Myn19]

It's attitudes like this that made me happy the day I gave up master of my old guild. It was a huge slap in the face to have acads say my rewards weren't that good or as good as another guilds when I had put a lot of time in trying to get things they could use for quest and give a decent amount of money that wouldn't leave my character broke in the process. However there were times when I would make a good bit of money from selling something and the bulk of my profits would go in what was my guild at the time =/

:( Newbs don't know much so they might assume that the guilds that give alot really give it their all and aren't actualy rich and that the others are just cheaper.
Oh,and they might think that each guild has to agree to an acad and not that it comes with it.
I guess the best way to start an acad you would enjoy is by not advertising it for money o.o and bringing in new people like aprrientices or lower lvl friends of guildies.
Since your type of acad would probably have long term acadies it might get full and keep out unwanted ppl :/
You don't need to take ****, and giving up on it completely is just taking the coward's way out o.0, you can quite easily inform the acadies on the actual situation and point them in the right direction for their interests.

[deathbringer54]

lol what about all of us that neva had acads?? we had to make our money from selling/questing, so get over it.

[kasteroid]

OP is fail.

[kitta-peach45]

It's attitudes like this that made me happy the day I gave up master of my old guild. It was a huge slap in the face to have acads say my rewards weren't that good or as good as another guilds when I had put a lot of time in trying to get things they could use for quest and give a decent amount of money that wouldn't leave my character broke in the process. However there were times when I would make a good bit of money from selling something and the bulk of my profits would go in what was my guild at the time =/

i know how you feel. i have my lovely guild and i work hard to keep academy running ( solo for the most point if i might add) i usually keep no more than 6g since i have to sell my productions to earn that money and lving my chars hurts too ( skills restoneing gears and such) yeah i get those lovley people too who come in and say " your rewards suck" or " (instert other guild name here) has better rewards you should too" i dunt like to be rude but my guildys fend for me. sooner or later the person leaves academy.

in my opinion academys are for getting help when low lvs need the help from a guildy aka a high lv or something. for me i dunt mind helping guildies when they want help but i wont accept spamming like " i need gold plz " or "plv me plz" or something ><

(side note) i know the person who opened this thread got thier answer already but i wanned to share my feelings :o

[zipiouch]

i Love it when noobs think that all high levels have oodles of money.

Too bad they aren't.

[Infestation]

There are plently of us that never used an academy. I did on my alts because I wanted the help when I couldn't find a party my level for quests such as the Ghost Slime and Mara/Marlone, archers and mages go splat. In the academy I was in, this help consisted of a cleric healing you while you did the killing, which was nice. I learned to play without having toworry about eating dirt. On my main character I didn't use an academy even though they were available, clerics are indestructible. People need to stop complaining so much. If a player isn't happy with the rewards of an academy they join they should keep their mouth shut, do something constructive for an hour, then leave the academy and find one you like. There are way too many whining crying people in game now. People work very hard to afford to fund and stock the rewards. In the average top tier academy on Apoline if someone levels through the entire thing they walk away with over 2g worth of silver and rewards each. You can't tell me that isn't enough to get you started.

People need to stop being dependant on others to play the game for them, and do the work for themselves. Learn some production skills, when everything that drops makes you money, you get a nice amount of gold very quickly. Make friends and go boss farming for drops to sell. Heck, do your quests, and not the Tower ones, you make enough money and get some nice rewards.

[AOF_almighty]

my guild isnt rich but we reward some silver and a vit scroll per lvl also alot of big guilds who want to keep that #1 rank kick people at 40 cause takes them to long to lvl ;) so they dont get that guild buff or rank

[crazyplay]

" and then telling kids "now get off my lawn!".


I'm 22 o.O

[drigr_x]

I dn't get it...

[KungFuHobo]

How dare they expect you to make your own money 1-60 like a ton of other people have done :/

[resigood]

On My archer, she's lvl 39 now, but b4 I "got" her to lvl 39 I had my archer join a academy Called <removed>, I lvled up, and all I got was a blue Christmas stocking!!!!! NO SILVER! And in this other academy called <removed>, (think that's how you spell it on fiesta) I got nothing at all!!! and I looked at the description in the guild academy thing and it said HAHA on it with a : ) at the end of it. I quit that academy right there. And today I got banned from the academy Earth for telling someone I got only 6silver when I lvled up to lvl 39 on my archer I got. I told the person I was talking to I got 6s, then there was silence and then next moment, I got banned it said, from the academy.


I'm getting upset, cuz I was trying to be in academy cuz me, I can nvr sell my items in my mini house/shop so I like academies instead to try to earn money by lvling. And so far nothing good has happened by joining. Can someone explain whats going on?

6s isnt enough?
you want a medal for reaching 39?
our awards are the items you need for certain quests, like dogtooth hq which isnt too easy to obtain in your 30s
usually 5s a level till around 50-60 we give 20s rewards since they're harder levels
also people from academy who stay and level deserve good rewards, most people level to 20 and start a new character or something, why give them great rewards when its obvious they're abusing the system?

my guild master isnt rich and she likes to donate to the academy anyway, other guildies like myself invest too on rare occassions but you should be joining to become part of the guild, not because you want to get paid...

[sally1234345]

actuali, u shouldnt blame too much on the guild~
sometime they got so many members untill they run out of cash
it's hard to keep up wit the academies lately....
but also the part of the blame that happens cuz the guild members didnt contribute cash in the guild storage~
guild master will have lots of trouble in the end the guild master r broke~

[KungFuHobo]

How do you get ripped off for free silver/items anyway? It's not like you paid to get into the academy, right?

[crazyplay]

6s isnt enough?
you want a medal for reaching 39?
our awards are the items you need for certain quests, like dogtooth hq which isnt too easy to obtain in your 30s
usually 5s a level till around 50-60 we give 20s rewards since they're harder levels
also people from academy who stay and level deserve good rewards, most people level to 20 and start a new character or something, why give them great rewards when its obvious they're abusing the system?

my guild master isnt rich and she likes to donate to the academy anyway, other guildies like myself invest too on rare occassions but you should be joining to become part of the guild, not because you want to get paid...


..Um...you didn't see the other page in this post where I explained the rest of my story with academies and why I'm upset, and how I apologized about how I said this all rude and also the part where I "re-explained" my paragraph? o_O .. did ya..._.

[crazyplay]

How do you get ripped off for free silver/items anyway? It's not like you paid to get into the academy, right?

I got nothing but a Christmas stocking. :/ Literally.

[crazyplay]

How dare they expect you to make your own money 1-60 like a ton of other people have done :/

Sits there in vendor selling weapons worth 36s with extra stats for 8s from 3am until almost 9:20 am. I come back to find out they only bought the sp potion lvl 30 and a mini lips licence. and no weps.


"True story too"



Sure I'll make money like other other ppl, IF THEY'D BUY MY CHEAP STUFF!

[SweetLavender]

academies aren't there for you to make money. they're there to prepare you for the big world (the higher levels). I had someone in the guild yesturday leave because we weren't helpful after I wouldn't give her money she could have easily gotten on her own.

Stockings aren't that useless really lol. they recover hp/sp which can come in handy in tight situations.

[recyclethis]

I can only speak for my academy, but I reward extremely well imo. 50s a level isnt bad, excluding all the scrolls and item rewards. I'm recruiting on epith btw ~.0

[SweetLavender]

my acadies get 10-15s per level and I have yet to hear a complaint ;) been that way 7 months now

[drigr_x]

HealingHotty, you CRAZY

[Myn19]

HealingHotty, you CRAZY

You think she is?D:
My guild leader's set rewards for 15s-60s >>''
Having a guild buff is nice though:p

[KungFuHobo]

I got nothing but a Christmas stocking. :/ Literally.

Thats more than anything I, or anybody who played before academies, got when they leveled.

You got to use guild buff out of it to.


Sits there in vendor selling weapons worth 36s with extra stats for 8s from 3am until almost 9:20 am. I come back to find out they only bought the sp potion lvl 30 and a mini lips licence. and no weps.


"True story too"



Sure I'll make money like other other ppl, IF THEY'D BUY MY CHEAP STUFF!

Maybe you should work on production skills, make things like potions or stones using mats you get from questing/grinding.

A wise man once told me that gears are not a source of income.

[Dthugtherealist]

Thats more than anything I, or anybody who played before academies, got when they leveled.

You got to use guild buff out of it to.



Maybe you should work on production skills, make things like potions or stones using mats you get from questing/grinding.

A wise man once told me that gears are not a source of income.

Agree'd lol and gears take freaking forever to sell unless omfg omega super godly.

[SweetLavender]

unless you're one of those poor guys like me who can only afford decent gears ;)

[Infestation]

Wow, I still can't believe people are complaining about this. Crazy if you think they are a rip off then just stay out of them. Do production skills, sells loads and loads of stones and scrolls, start your own guild, and then fund the most mega awesome academy ever! 100s per level baby!!! Actually we do have some insane guilds that do this for a few weeks at a time until they go mega broke on Apoline.

My guild gives away 10 T1 scrolls, 5 T2 scrolls (starting at lvl 15) and 5 T3 (starting at level 30) plus a decent amount of silver per level. This had to be lowered before because the amount of time it takes two people to keep up on rewards like this between KKP and production is just silly. I would love to hear someone complain that the silver we give is slightly lower than a few of the other guilds, who, for the most part give out T1 scrolls or maybe a single T2/3. I've seen it too, apparently 60-80s worth of scrolls doesn't compute with some people.

And the stockings are useless I will agree, they are T1 sp regen potions. But regardless as I said once before, if you are just a greedy player in it for the silver and rewards, run to the guild master when you join an academy and check the stuff out. If you don't like what you see, do something else for an hour or make sure you don't level, then leave. Use an alt account to check out rewards ahead of time. Whatever it is you do, the last thing anyone should be doing is COMPLAINING that they are getting free stuff and most likely help from higher level players with more difficult quests.

[ras-blackfire]

People are getting greedy, and then i dont mean the academys. players want more and more, they dont appriciate what they get.
years ago we didnt even had academys, so be glad there are academys now.


i quited my academy becouse ppl didnt appriciate all the silver i putted into it... i lost a gold in 1 day (starting academy D: ) and they where complaining that they barly got something and other academys give more.... ><

[lolznplz]

OS should take out the portal guards for a few weeks. just to watch the chaos that would likely ensue xD

[Ian]

Annihilation runs through a couple gold every day from the academy. :X

[tyransus]

lol i actually sell greens that i could use and use plain so that i have enough money to level to the next level xD dusnt mean i shud start asking more rewards from academy...they give 30s atm lv46-50 and item rewards too...and some help with difficult quests...and some tips on making the character better...what do i do for them?? give them a guild buff for an hour that too wenever i level which is once a week...so i dont think i'll be resentful to something that only gives gives and rarely takes o.o and the guild buff too is shared with me...so basically they get nothing in return lmao


OS should take out the portal guards for a few weeks. just to watch the chaos that would likely ensue xD
ahaha i think most people will get lost and discover places called sand beach sea of greed and dark passage 1 xD

[crazyplay]

Well, on the flip side, do newbies now have the same economy we did when we were newbies? Probably not... Nowadays, you can barely find decent gear without forking over a few gold.

Besides, I've seen some pretty rude rip off academies. They go and shout their rewards (like 500s a level..what the heck?), get a flood of players, and mess with them by giving them nada. But, they still get their nice academy buff.

That, and some guilds are just rude. When my alt couldn't join my guild's acad because it was full, I joined a random one. Turns out I ran into one of the admin's alts during questing, and got her mad at me. She thought I was a newbie, and tried to 'show me up' with her main. She then wanted to ban me from academy by inviting me into the guild, and kicking me off from there. I know what she's doing, because I'm not a newbie...

So, yep, I can see why the OP is peeved with the academy systems. But you have to remember not all guilds are like that. There are a lot of golden ones out there. Just talk with people to find out which academy is good.

what dragonfly said above above about acads is what i been trying to say to you all along but you all only wanted a problem and brought up stuff having to do with greediness. damm. -.-

[lordpatty]

First of all, I wanted to start by saying this: A lot of people on these forums are not using the term "rip-off" appropriately. Being ripped off is when, during terms of exchange, you get less than what you provide. All the OP did is join an acad. Where is the rip-off there?

Moving on to the actual topic at hand, it's honestly pathetic to complain about the lack of free items one think they're entitled to. A valid complain about an academy would be one where its geared towards lack of appropriate help and/or guidance. For example, let's say on a daily basis you ask questions about the game mechanics and or the effects of certain builds but no one responds to you at all, then yes, the acad sucks. Or you never find any help doing even a single tough boss from acad helpers, then yes it sucks. These are valid complaints.

If you're only here to exploit money/gears from acads, then please do it quietly. If it aint to your vice standards, then shut up, leave the acad and go find another one. What acads frequently forget is that the money and gears come from the pocket of other players who spend their effort and time into the acad. Another thing other acad members forget as well is to thank the masters/admin/guild members for their effort once they graduate. Sometimes, its even those same acad members, who later play the role of "guild jerks" and won't lift up as much as a finger to help acads.

If you want money, fine, nobody cares. Heck, some acads don't mind having people in their guild acad so as long as they get their points. I just find the audacity to criticize the most unimportant points of an acad, such as lack of money/gear truly pathetic. To go ahead and even post something like that is completely absurd.

The thread OP will not be getting an iota of support from me.

[crazyplay]

First of all, I wanted to start by saying this: A lot of people on these forums are not using the term "rip-off" appropriately. Being ripped off is when, during terms of exchange, you get less than what you provide. All the OP did is join an acad. Where is the rip-off there?

Moving on to the actual topic at hand, it's honestly pathetic to complain about the lack of free items one think they're entitled to. A valid complain about an academy would be one where its geared towards lack of appropriate help and/or guidance. For example, let's say on a daily basis you ask questions about the game mechanics and or the effects of certain builds but no one responds to you at all, then yes, the acad sucks. Or you never find any help doing even a single tough boss from acad helpers, then yes it sucks. These are valid complaints.

If you're only here to exploit money/gears from acads, then please do it quietly. If it aint to your vice standards, then shut up, leave the acad and go find another one. What acads frequently forget is that the money and gears come from the pocket of other players who spend their effort and time into the acad. Another thing other acad members forget as well is to thank the masters/admin/guild members for their effort once they graduate. Sometimes, its even those same acad members, who later play the role of "guild jerks" and won't lift up as much as a finger to help acads.

If you want money, fine, nobody cares. Heck, some acads don't mind having people in their guild acad so as long as they get their points. I just find the audacity to criticize the most unimportant points of an acad, such as lack of money/gear truly pathetic. To go ahead and even post something like that is completely absurd.

The thread OP will not be getting an iota of support from me.

do you even read these forums right when I post em, or reply, or do you NOT READ at ALL. -.- And hint: this post is from HOW LONG ago. -_- NOTICE yet?

[lordpatty]

do you even read these forums right when I post em, or reply, or do you NOT READ at ALL. -.- And hint: this post is from HOW LONG ago. -_- NOTICE yet?

I did read them all. I only posted in this thread because it was brought up today. I'm still not sympathizing with you though.

[grummin]

And hint: this post is from HOW LONG ago. -_- NOTICE yet?

Yes, I noticed the thread had been dead for two months before you dragged it back to the top.

[DarkSlasher]

do you even read these forums right when I post em, or reply, or do you NOT READ at ALL. -.- And hint: this post is from HOW LONG ago. -_- NOTICE yet?

Maybe if you would have paid attention to how old this thread was you wouldn’t have necro-posted?

Inb4.

[mirazo]

also inb4..

[GigiBunny]

ewww necroed thread x.x

[GM_Razia]

Necroooo!

Closed~