What's Wrong With The Guild Wars

[bionical2k]

not being funny but i thought that if one guild declared war on another then only those members of the two guilds should be able to battle and heal. watching wars at the moment i have seen clerics who do not belong to any guild helping those who are in guilds by healing them. surely this is wrong and shouldn't be allowed to happen. at this present moment in time (before end of CB test) i am an archer and do not belong to guild and i cannot interact with a guild war and this should be so for clerics who also do not belong to a guild.


am i wrong in thinking this?

[JimJimster]

no, clerics are allowed to do a healing buff to anybody in the game, therefore they are helping the guild they want to win

[lunelune]

You are 100% correct. Clerics are annoying enough in GvG when they're IN the war. Don't need them healing, buffing, and shielding without being attackable.





The only reason JimJimster disagrees is because he is A) An idiot cleric who does it, B) someone who can't win without help from an outside cleric, or C) someone who has never had it happen to him in a war.

[Pornwaffle]

so true...


like every guild war theres a **** load of clerics standing there buffing, shielding, the god mode that clerics can cast... it's seriously annoying, and their not even in the clan guilding...

[JimJimster]

@ lune-*** do u*hav against me, im a mage*


and i was disagreeing with the fact that he thought the guild system was messed up not the fact that clerics are annoying.nothings messed up but the clerics can buff anybody at any time


i dont get why u just went out like that

[lunelune]

No, he is completely right. Why should someone not involved with the guilds, therefore not able to be attacked, be able to heal and buff someone in the war? Having a cleric not in your guild to sit there and shield and heal you is like an insta-win.

[Chainz]

I was in a recent GvG war and I was noticing that all of the outside Clerics that were not in Guilds were healing the people in Guilds. To me that got really annoying because there was probably 3 or 4 Clerics on one player. I would like to see a rule or regulation to the outside interferance from Non-Guild members. Bionical2k, it's Calintz by the way. :)

[JimJimster]

its not the guild war system that should be changed, the clerics shouldnt be able to heal anybody but a party*member or fellow guild member


they could fix the guild system only but clerics shouldnt be able to help anybody without*permission


the game needs an assist option so u can turn it off while in a guild war*

[Keenan]

that wont work out very well jim.

[JimJimster]

y not.......


watever just an opinion*

[Keenan]

lol cus say like a um random cleric comes along in he sees a group of ppl in there team is full but they need that cleric so he can stay in just heal them in after the group kills the monter they say ty to da cleric in be on there way.

[lunelune]

Someone could easily party with a cleric that isn't in their guild during a GvG.

[JimJimster]

*i said u could turn aid/assistance on or off that way u could control it yourself*

[Keenan]

ohh i didt read that last part sorry jim...

[mrtigerman]

How about making it so that during a guild war, clerics that aren't in your party can't heal you unless they're in your guild. To futher ensure fairness, the clerics that heal*anyone taking part*in a guild war could*be flagged for 10 minutes so that they can be attacked by any guild war guild except the one they healed for.

[lunelune]

So, incase you didn't realize not everyone is so trustworthy. It should be an automatic thing, during GvG, that you can not be healed by a cleric unless they are at war with the same guild as you. Not every person is going to say "let me be fair and make it so I can't be healed by people outside my guild while fighting this other guild."

[JimJimster]

*we need to make an official rule that we all agree on so the gms no exactly wat we want


"in a gvg, any character not participating cannot buff/debuff/aid a participating player"


hows that

[DwLee]

I agree with topic creator 100%, being a Cleric myself.

[Pornwaffle]

are you even reading it? let me simple it out for you


your fighting someone in a diferent guild, 1 vs 1


then all of a sudden your about to win, then a cleric comes by and casts that spell that makes em invincible and starts healing him


you can't do anything cause the cool down is like 18 seconds, so you just keep spamming skills which do nothing forever and you turn to try and kill the guy buffing


but you can't since he's not in the guild war


unfair? hell yes

[Trebori]

If you enter the fray( buffing,healing,etc.) then you should be fair game to be slaughtered.

[Resandben]

I agree there should be some way to exclude nonguild clerics from healing during guildwars. It is especially anoying when you get past a cleric's shield skill and a nonguild cleric casts it on them so you have to get past it all over again...

[Stryfe]

It'd be hard code wise to prevent a cleric for healing. It'd be alot easier to make War Maps, pvp for all. This way anyone that decides to help gets killed. This'd of course be a a whole new problem with wars within towns and the innocent getting killed.

[lilflip45]

<u>SMH...even those its a terrible example Archlords Guild War system is very similar to Fiestas cept it doesnt allow you to be healed by people outside of guild...something could and should be addin stop outside interference...or simplely make a GvG Arena where people can watch but not*get involved in the action =/*</u>

[xemil]

I agree with whoever said that non guild healers healing guilds warring should be flagged for a period of time so they can be killed but to add that they should get 'pink' (or red doesn't really matter but with pink you'd know it's an enemy but not in the guild you're warring) names and be killable AND lose exp when they die. That would stop any clerics interfering... Once they've been killed about five times or so and notice a big drop in their exp =)

I'm just surprised this hasn't been flamed a lot more those sorry excuses for Guilds who have to use non guild clerics to win. Such as Rain, specifically, Coolidge.

[Antonius]

Quite right, xemil. I was in town during one guild war and saw that Coolidge had some healer on his side - non guildee at that!

This is not to defame Rain or Coolidge, but something must be done about this thing.

LMAO hi Est