So they adding Karen.... Can somebody provide more info? :D

[yaseeda]

http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=246895&page=3

Sking told they adding karen dungeon this month, march. Can somebody provide more info about this boss and if possible, links to weapons/drops?

Friend showed me karen 1h picture, it has 5k base dmg o.o

[ikimoto]

All I know is;
She's hot and the Hammer has 10k~16k dmg.

[yaseeda]

O.o lets not forget in ours version of fiesta dmg on weapons lower, so we will get 2/3 of real dmg... Still not bad O_O
1h with 2-3k base and hammer with 5k , hmmm, I hope they will balance them in correct way, wont make same mistake as they did with bk weapons when they left aim from korean version e.e

[Lukasz_Lucky]

ATTENTION: SPOILER UNDER, ONLY READ IF YOU WISH TO KNOW!

Succubus Karen is level 150, she looks like an incubus, but more girly =P
She has 3 other minions near her in the boss room, 2 are some sort of Minotaurs. The last one is some sort of Incubus.
Incubus Agole is the Yellow Minotaur, level 140
Incubus Rock is the Red Minotaur, level 140
Fire Pamelia is the last minions of Succubus Karen
She has her own dungeon which is called Thornbush Cave and it's full of creepy monsters such as the Devil Honeying, Fog Lence, Killer Hide, Psyken, Bloody Zombies and much more.

Enjoy =3

[Moxxie]

Someone go to korean fiesta and screenie everything of thornbush cave, pl0x? :3

I can't go to their site

[char_family]

ATTENTION: SPOILER UNDER, ONLY READ IF YOU WISH TO KNOW!

Succubus Karen is level 150, she looks like an incubus, but more girly =P
She has 3 other minions near her in the boss room, 2 are some sort of Minotaurs. The last one is some sort of Incubus.
Incubus Agole is the Yellow Minotaur, level 140
Incubus Rock is the Red Minotaur, level 140
Fire Pamelia is the last minions of Succubus Karen
She has her own dungeon which is called Thornbush Cave and it's full of creepy monsters such as the Devil Honeying, Fog Lence, Killer Hide, Psyken, Bloody Zombies and much more.

Enjoy =3

wow where'd you get all that? O.o

I read Sking's post and they said they were coming out with three new instance dungeons... Where are they gonna put them all! We didn't even get the cap raise yet, I'm starting to wonder if the cap raise will come with the karen instance dungeon, which they said would come out this month.

[Lukasz_Lucky]

wow where'd you get all that? O.o

I read Sking's post and they said they were coming out with three new instance dungeons... Where are they gonna put them all! We didn't even get the cap raise yet, I'm starting to wonder if the cap raise will come with the karen instance dungeon, which they said would come out this month.

I know a lot... but I didn't reveal everything, it would break all the fun =3

Psst... I even have the map of this dungeon >=D

[yaseeda]

Maybe they making karen instant also... would be awesome, no more drama for drops^^

I am checking fiestaonline.net , but not enough info there x.x

[Andromeda]

All I know is;
She's hot and the Hammer has 10k~16k dmg.

What did you expect the Guardian Hammer is the strongest weapon in the game.¬_¬

[juicy_babii]

I've noticed that once you get higher in levels the monsters seem to do more mdmg than regular dmg. Interesting.... And that post said it's PLANNED so don't have "all" your hopes up

[kevinyou40]

Don't wait around for something to happen cause everythings late around here. It took a year after they said the housing system was being added for it to show up.

[Infestation]

Don't wait around for something to happen cause everythings late around here. It took a year after they said the housing system was being added for it to show up.

Part of the delay was so that it would work properly when it was released, and so that we could get all the fun animations such as the tears when crying while sitting on furniture. I don't know why people are so impatient. I swear 85% of the community would rather have super bugged new content be released now than wait for a close to bug free version down the road. Makes no sense to me.

[Piercing_Blood]

ohwell i just hope when they raise the cap i just hope they can put repeat quests on 91-100 atleast .-. im tired of waiting for ever cause of me not being able to buy sc ._.

[isteam]

I wonder how they're adding karen, the cave she is in is like, way after Vera and Kahal Plains...Plus the mobs are all 135+

Will the cave be nerfed and a warp be added to a map we have? Like DT was...?

[maxx_perfect]

I wonder how they're adding karen, the cave she is in is like, way after Vera and Kahal Plains...Plus the mobs are all 135+

Will the cave be nerfed and a warp be added to a map we have? Like DT was...?

I would imagine so.
Everything else in between would be a HUGE amount of content.
Seems kinda pointless to me though, on Bijou only one guild can kill Helga at the moment, how are we going to kill Karen without working together (which of course is out of the question.)

[GM_Nekopon]

I would imagine so.
Everything else in between would be a HUGE amount of content.
Seems kinda pointless to me though, on Bijou only one guild can kill Helga at the moment, how are we going to kill Karen without working together (which of course is out of the question.)

Working together is pretty tough for most servers, huh?

[xogeley]

I thought Karen was gonna be like a Helga boss o-o Helga's Tomb isn't really a dungeon - no level requirement and its a pretty open field. Not to mention it has no quests.
Karen is more like a Cornelius boss I guess x; If she is, she sounds too easy rofl

[darknightofwind]

Working together is pretty tough for most servers, huh?

It's hard enough getting a party to work as a team 90% of the time, let alone 2 or more guilds :x

[maxx_perfect]

Working together is pretty tough for most servers, huh?

I'm only speaking for Bijou, but I imagine it's a similar situation in the other servers.
But yes, incredibly difficult D:
And quite rightly, who's going to step aside and let a rival guild take the most powerful drops without a fuss?

[saiyou8]

I knew a thread like this was coming up after the rumors of cap raise. Tsk tsk~
Isn't more fun when OS doesn't tell you any details, then one day you read the patch notes and see they've added Karen? D8
Gosh. Impatient people. ;(


ATTENTION: SPOILER UNDER, ONLY READ IF YOU WISH TO KNOW!

Umm, these things (screenshots and everything aswell) were posted already like 6 months ago by one person. >__>

[Tommy2k7_uk]

I thought Karen was gonna be like a Helga boss o-o Helga's Tomb isn't really a dungeon - no level requirement and its a pretty open field. Not to mention it has no quests.
Karen is more like a Cornelius boss I guess x; If she is, she sounds too easy rofl

have good mag def all i got to say i dont think normal def will do any good on this monster

[xogeley]

Yeah I'd rather log in with my guild like "OMG EVA COME TO RAID KAREN NOW" and me like o-o; wut
rumor threads are just wishful thinking ;c

[saiyou8]

Haha, I found it~

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199949&highlight=Karen&page=5

Posted like a year ago @0@
Still, we will get Karen and sht when OS adds them in to the game. So let's just be good little boys and girls and wait. Kk? kk.

[xogeley]

Karen is hawt.
Cannot wait.

[devin_nicolai]

I bet that she is going to be ultra super omega nerfed, like helga was.
So OS/Ons gets more money for charms and stoof to raid her.
Then, two cap raises later have her at full power.


Oh well, it'll be fun.

[RikoRain]

Keep in mind that any items that drop from Karen in our version might be differently statted than the ones in the other versions. Just look at the Hellgaits. You can look at any other site with information about fiesta and most of them will have the numbers for the stats of the hellgaits when they first came out (I think the shield had like 1500 def? Whereas now it has about 500). So no doubt even if the drops from Karen do have the same stats as the other versions, or other informations, they will probably be changed to better suit our version.

As for Karen itself, Ive been seeing it in the developing section for quite some time now, just a lil tidbit mentioned in there. It is coming out this March? That is insanely pleasing. I was told that Karen would be the boss that made Knights shine. As in, Helga now, you can have a Knight tank, or a Gladiator, some Clerics can. But I heard Karen, you MUST have a Knight tank. Ive been looking foward to when it would come out, but tbh, I thought Karen would come out after the next cap raise.

And as a dungeon? Thats amazing :3

[BloodMage78]

Yes sounds exciting. 105+ is when prestige roles will start taking their paths. -dances- :D

[aciddaemon]

Haha, I found it~

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199949&highlight=Karen&page=5

Posted like a year ago @0@
Still, we will get Karen and sht when OS adds them in to the game. So let's just be good little boys and girls and wait. Kk? kk.

Let me just say I ditto all compliments to karen. o.o She's like a 9x female mage..., but bigger and with wings. <3 xD

[allyyCORE]

Part of the delay was so that it would work properly when it was released, and so that we could get all the fun animations such as the tears when crying while sitting on furniture. I don't know why people are so impatient. I swear 85% of the community would rather have super bugged new content be released now than wait for a close to bug free version down the road. Makes no sense to me.

I agree with you.
I always see people complain for the wrong reasons in these forums and if it weren't for rules, I think I would have fired off verbally hahaha.

Even now, the Estate seems a bit bugged.


Working together is pretty tough for most servers, huh?

I don't think it's hard to work together in servers. It's hard to work together with people who can't put their egos aside.


Keep in mind that any items that drop from Karen in our version might be differently statted than the ones in the other versions. Just look at the Hellgaits. You can look at any other site with information about fiesta and most of them will have the numbers for the stats of the hellgaits when they first came out (I think the shield had like 1500 def? Whereas now it has about 500). So no doubt even if the drops from Karen do have the same stats as the other versions, or other informations, they will probably be changed to better suit our version.

As for Karen itself, Ive been seeing it in the developing section for quite some time now, just a lil tidbit mentioned in there. It is coming out this March? That is insanely pleasing. I was told that Karen would be the boss that made Knights shine. As in, Helga now, you can have a Knight tank, or a Gladiator, some Clerics can. But I heard Karen, you MUST have a Knight tank. Ive been looking foward to when it would come out, but tbh, I thought Karen would come out after the next cap raise.

And as a dungeon? Thats amazing :3

Agree also, I think that any gameplay feature or content added that makes certain classes a necessity are awesome.

[Antony_Aravind]

I've noticed that once you get higher in levels the monsters seem to do more mdmg than regular dmg. Interesting.... And that post said it's PLANNED so don't have "all" your hopes up

Well in the future mages will be our tanks I guess @.@

[yaseeda]

Well I also noticed all high lvl mobs have hybried attacks, like magic+physical, I am glad I am using spr/dex+9 gears (I am fighter), Cornelius was pretty easy for me even though I have no extender and using 75 set, just scrolling and 1 9x cleric was enough *-*

Umhm, so I am curious, karen will be in real dungeon, like dragon tomb, or it will be just small map like Helga Tomb? Please make it instant, this way fighting for weapons finally would be gone x.x But make drop rate 1/5 or like this, so not each kill=1 drop, this way people still will need to work hard to get enough weapons for themselves and guildies^^

[mirazo]

If u make it instance then that means 5 people can beat her which means less charms needed to kill so less money for os to make. This is a business lol not gonna happen

[nyannyan9]

If u make it instance then that means 5 people can beat her which means less charms needed to kill so less money for os to make. This is a business lol not gonna happen

Why does making it an instance automatically mean that 5 people can beat her? There are many games with instance dungeons that have bosses which require 40+ players to take down. Is this simply because in Fiesta SP stones means everyone has unlimited SP, or is it something else?

[leobaloy]

I wanna tank Karen :c.

[yaseeda]

Well but if drop rate low, means we will need lot of tries to get 1 karen weapon, and if dungeon long and hard enough, each attempt will require tank to charm, means profit still will be high.

[mirazo]

Why does making it an instance automatically mean that 5 people can beat her? There are many games with instance dungeons that have bosses which require 40+ players to take down. Is this simply because in Fiesta SP stones means everyone has unlimited SP, or is it something else?

This isnt one of those games. All the instances in the game are for parties of 5

[nyannyan9]

This isnt one of those games. All the instances in the game are for parties of 5

I see. What I am wondering is, what about Fiesta makes it this way? Is it because there is no option for partying more than 5 people together, and an instance only allows partied groups inside? If that is the case it would seem better to work on the large party (raid/alliance) mechanics rather than just forcing all large bosses into an open area.

I'm not trying to debate the positives or negatives of instanced fights. Rather, I believe that the game should be designed in such a way to allow OOS to have large boss fights either instanced or non instanced. They should not be forced to have all large fights non instanced simply because they grouping system hasn't been developed past 5 members.

[RikoRain]

Would be nice to know more, but unfortunately you always have to keep in mind things for our version may differ from another version. Someone could go and grab a ton of screenshots and information from the Korean version on Karen and all its tidbit info, but push come to shove it may not be what comes out for us. You can easily see it might (and probably wont) be the same for us.

But what is clear, is Karen is equivalent to Helga at a higher level (its some epic boss). Rumor has it that Karen is so strong, and uniquely made, that you MUST have a Knight to tank it (Woo hoo! Go Knights!). We also know that Karen is in some sort of dungeon (said by one of our own GMs), but the level limit hasnt been said (at least I havent seen, though I would guess level 100+, since the rumor is you need a Knight to tank it).

As for what Karen drops, take a quick and easy look at the BKs, TBKs, BKRs, and HGs. I know if you google them youll still get that a HG shield adds 1500 defense. Yet in game, you see a shield, it only adds 510. So the items that Karen drops, may (and probably will) not be the same as what you see on the internet and in other versions. Even if they are, I wouldnt get too excited, because look at what happened to HGs (balanced within the game). Karen weapons would do the same. And I think when you take a HG, and introduce a Karen weapon, Karen having so much higher -- if it isnt already nerfed, Im sure it would be soon.

[Ian]

I'm definitely going Holy Knight now. *-*

[kristylynn]

If u make it instance then that means 5 people can beat her which means less charms needed to kill so less money for os to make. This is a business lol not gonna happen

This makes no sense.

You forget that there is more then 1 group in the instance at any one time. I don't know how many parties can go in at once. 5-10 maybe, so that is 25-50 ppl charming to go in vs what the 5-10 it takes to kill helga now. To me it seems way smarter money wise for OS to make it an instance. Give everyone a chance vs the 1 big guild on each server. (this makes the players happy) Plus look at all the enhancing that would be getting done vs the amount of storage chars just holding HG cause the people who can get don't share or won't sell. (this makes money for OS)

players happy + OS more money = good for everyone. (moral rises)

How many people don't go to helga now because it isn't worth it? 1 party can't out damage the 1 guild that hogs it for themselves. So many a people have just given up.

If it were instanced I am sure more people would try as it would be worth it. I know I would and I can think of 50-100 people who feel the same way. I enhance all my good stuff so I know they would get another $800 or more out of me just for enhancing. ($100 x 8 chars) thats assuming they would be class restricted and not double up like the hg shield.

[RikoRain]

Lol Ian xD

Well if Knights are the "super power against Karen", then I would also assume that Guardians are a super power against Karen, since HK are like the Glads of clerics.

@_@ Then again you can already see it at raids for Helga. Plus Guards are relatively small in number, but high in demand, and at least on Apoline. Same for Knights. So I would assume something will come out that will balance that few number/few demand, with a big demand to boost the numbers.

[Sir.nossraL]

ooooooh it would be so nice if Karen would come in next cap raise it would be so damn EPIC! smallest but strongest boss in fiesta :P