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Joethe1
11-19-2007, 11:35 AM
I want a Cleric That can pwn high monsters by himself, ppl say theres no such thing and that you simply heal your party and let them do the killing but i believe there is a cleric build that can pwn by himself...Leave one plz

Nerria
11-19-2007, 11:41 AM
Simply put, if you can out heal the damage you can kill it.

Clerics will never 'pwn' because their DPS is meh, but they can kill anything they want as long as they can survive a hit.

25 spr / full end

Favorite build, personal pref.
Full End will probably work just as well with less damage and M.Def though.

Garvin2000
11-19-2007, 12:23 PM
^what Nerria said..

anyway even if you got a build that could "pwn" high monsters all by itself (there is none)
the killing would still be so slow that soloing is a waste of time(unless you're farming/training license)

Joethe1
11-19-2007, 01:10 PM
ok so we might not pwn alone, im looking for where to put my stats now, where...

Xanthros
11-19-2007, 01:12 PM
I want a Cleric That can pwn high monsters by himself, ppl say theres no such thing and that you simply heal your party and let them do the killing but i believe there is a cleric build that can pwn by himself...Leave one plz

You can kill anything given enough time and patience. How high do you call a 'high' monster? Something orange? Something red? Something that should be a flashing red with the word DEATH?

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Lostchild346
11-19-2007, 01:16 PM
Ok Go all STR There was an arena event held on 11/16 on the Bijou sever and a cleric by the name melonade won She used a full STR build and Dakkon was Like see even clerics can win So Full Str clerics can do some nice dps.

Xanthros
11-19-2007, 01:27 PM
Ok Go all STR There was an arena event held on 11/16 on the Bijou sever and a cleric by the name melonade won She used a full STR build and Dakkon was Like see even clerics can win So Full Str clerics can do some nice dps.

Disagreed. Full str will be a massive disaster without any end or spr in the mix. That said.. you had 1 player win an event with the build.. ask yourself how it'll fare against an NPC throwing ranged T3 poison that hits for 150/pulse with no m.def. Or better yet, King Coll, with their version of devastate that'll tear the full str cleric to pieces in 2 hits tops.

I am curious what other clerics have to say about this, I just know that if you're going to go full str you'll probably be quite disappointed once you hit the mid 2x range and wonder why moonlight tomb destroys you if you go without a tank to take the hits.

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Garvin2000
11-19-2007, 01:37 PM
Disagreed. Full str will be a massive disaster without any end or spr in the mix. That said.. you had 1 player win an event with the build.. ask yourself how it'll fare against an NPC throwing ranged T3 poison that hits for 150/pulse with no m.def. Or better yet, King Coll, with their version of devastate that'll tear the full str cleric to pieces in 2 hits tops.

I am curious what other clerics have to say about this, I just know that if you're going to go full str you'll probably be quite disappointed once you hit the mid 2x range and wonder why moonlight tomb destroys you if you go without a tank to take the hits.

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Agreed...leave the full-STR clerics for arena events...why not make a full-STR cleric and use it only for the arena events.

By the higher-lvls you will mostly be gaining xp thru party-grinding. Usually the optimum party will be 2 mages, an archer, tank and cler. Notice one cler. Due to your lower than average def. you will fall faster when you draw aggro. from heals. You die, party die, bai bai 15000xp...i'm not saying that damage-dealing clerics don't have a place, but most of the time if you're doing your job you will be parked in one area spamming heals. Your party needs you to stay alive....

Lostchild346
11-19-2007, 03:10 PM
I mainly was proving that cleric can dps simple put !

Xanthros
11-19-2007, 03:15 PM
I mainly was proving that cleric can dps simple put !

If you mean DPS without any real hope of surviving long enough to kill it, then yes... any class can do that. My definition of DPS is high damage with semi-decent or better tanking ability.

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Mitaka
11-20-2007, 01:44 PM
I am a level 4x cleric and do pretty well on my own. My build is +10 str, +20 end, and +12 spr. Now when I looked and got these stats, I did have on a couple of end. rings, but like I said, I can hold my own soloing in collasped prision, although I will still die if I fall behind in heals.

sorsorday
11-21-2007, 11:20 AM
Agreed...leave the full-STR clerics for arena events...why not make a full-STR cleric and use it only for the arena events.

By the higher-lvls you will mostly be gaining xp thru party-grinding. Usually the optimum party will be 2 mages, an archer, tank and cler. Notice one cler. Due to your lower than average def. you will fall faster when you draw aggro. from heals. You die, party die, bai bai 15000xp...i'm not saying that damage-dealing clerics don't have a place, but most of the time if you're doing your job you will be parked in one area spamming heals. Your party needs you to stay alive....

Full str is extremely good in solo. My build is end/spr and I can get exp by solo as fast as with team in cp. Since I am not full str build, I spammed bash to compensate it. I know that a full str build can almost double my damage in regular attack. That means a full str build cleric can get exp by solo real fast.
In terms of easy to die, I would say cleric has enough hp to survive without adding any end. And with lv47 buff, a full end cleric is not much better in getting hits.

I use spr/end build because my fd used full str and I don't want us to have the same build.

yukijin
11-21-2007, 03:05 PM
see my thread.

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25291