Is Str Useless For Clerics

[Kyouto]

i dont think it is but some others do think its worthless?

[notalther]

i dont think it is but some others do think its worthless?

it's not worthless, but not as valuable as END and SPR for a cleric.

[Kyouto]

i have a little str on my cleric so thats good right and valuable right?

[notalther]

i have a little str on my cleric so thats good right and valuable right?

it's certainly not bad. in the future, at least through lvl 35 though, i would consider putting points into END and SPR. trust me, you wont regret it :p

[Chrono-Dudex]

Guys please answer this question. Add 25 extra SPR or total 25 SPR? Cos' the SPR keeps increasing as you level..

Also, what empowerment do I add for my heal? Is there a max level for each enpowerment and do I get to max all of them?

[Kyouto]

Guys please answer this question. Add 25 extra SPR or total 25 SPR? Cos' the SPR keeps increasing as you level..

Also, what empowerment do I add for my heal? Is there a max level for each enpowerment and do I get to max all of them?it means for u to have +25 points to spr

[notalther]

Guys please answer this question. Add 25 extra SPR or total 25 SPR? Cos' the SPR keeps increasing as you level..

Also, what empowerment do I add for my heal? Is there a max level for each enpowerment and do I get to max all of them?

5 is the max, and the first one does the most, the last one does the least. just save up 5 points and look at what each thing does before you apply anything.

[Summit]

once you get 25 spr , dont go full end because youll have NO damage, and just adding 5 is as stupid as going full on end. wow people I hope you expect to Guild War some day because a cleric with near to no damage is about as usefull as a a mage who has near to no int, I say this and what you should take into consideration level 1-20 pour in that 25 spr (you get 5 points from title change) than go 1:1 or 2:1 ( i use one of these builds and I bet you can guess which one, I drop mobs faster than a 1:1) str end., you'll tank AND (see the caps letter) do damage. not just be able to take hits but ALSO be able to give them back, like you know those stupid long cleric battles where both hit for crap because both went full end. you have heals people get rid of some end and put it into str >_> god noone thinks outside the box these days.

[Gravvi]

STR is good when u start out. I wouldn't recommend putting more than 10 points into it. I have 15 and there isn't much difference from when i had 10 in it. But i do recommend: 25 spr, 5-10 dex, rest end

[notalther]

once you get 25 spr , dont go full end because youll have NO damage, and just adding 5 is as stupid as going full on end. wow people I hope you expect to Guild War some day because a cleric with near to no damage is about as usefull as a a mage who has near to no int, I say this and what you should take into consideration level 1-20 pour in that 25 spr (you get 5 points from title change) than go 1:1 or 2:1 ( i use one of these builds and I bet you can guess which one, I drop mobs faster than a 1:1) str end., you'll tank AND (see the caps letter) do damage. not just be able to take hits but ALSO be able to give them back, like you know those stupid long cleric battles where both hit for crap because both went full end. you have heals people get rid of some end and put it into str >_> god noone thinks outside the box these days.

umm..i was answering a question about skill empowerment, so don't be thinking i'm talking about only adding 5 stat points to something. try reading ALL the posts before assuming you know what the person above you is talking about.

[Semaj]

im gonna have to agree with summit. i didnt follow what he said, but i usually play more support, even in guild wars. you def want to go +25spr then do an end:str build.

[Roseanna]

To answer the poster, it's not that str is entirely useless. It's just that it's not the #1 priority. I started off doing 1:1 spr:end... I'm doing a little switch though. I'm going to top off spr at 25 and then add on some str. I kill stuff too slow. ;)

[Summit]

If you've ever dueled another cleric you'll know its who drops the other persons hp the quickest causing them to heal more often, say your full end and shes full end...battles never going to end really unless noone uses sp stones. now say shes full end 25 spr, your 25 spr 1:1 str-end, sure you cant take a hit as hard as hers BUT her damage is near to nothing as it is. (note both clerics same armor same gear no enhance no greens) so even with the str rings she isnt going to do much to you as is. I find it myself end is kind useless after 3--35 with it. because like spr its % drops not as much but it does drop to where more than 10 points is needed to make a big difference. So this is my old clerics build ( i made a new one because well i found a even better way to balance out defense and damage with the 25spr ratio) 25 spr, 30 end, 9 str.

And I still womp full end clerics and str fighters down with less than a sweat.

[yukijin]

str is useless for the party cleric, and the a key factor for solo license clerics. it all depends on how you train.

[Ryokosha]

I personally don't like to fight myself, instead I just get a party with fighter/archer/mage and then keep healing from the back. Only stats I need is END (so aggro mobs don't kill me too fast) and SPR (more mdef and sp). STR is useless for party Cleric, but if you solo it's okay.

[TnA_Kelso]

ive only been playing 2 days and i can tell u str is pointless. im currently lvl 17 usesing 3:1 end/spr build and its working perfectly. the only time i would think u need more str/hit damage is at lower lvls well u solo train, but with my cleric i have had no trouble at all doing that. Plus when u get to be a higher lvl only a moron would be a cleric and try to kill things, clerics are ment to sapport a main slayer :D

[noobesian]

im only lvl 32 and i can already tell you str is awsome also 25 spr is nice but i dont like odd numbers so i have 26 and the reast is str and end and i have vary nice gear so people that have a so called better build dont have a chance anyway

[jak0999]

I got:

+28 END on my Cleric

+15 SPR
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I just use Rings with END and STR or END and SPR

[Ryokosha]

It indeed seems to be good to raise END/SPR only but get STR/DEX via rings.

[Tela007]

ive only been playing 2 days and i can tell u str is pointless. im currently lvl 17 usesing 3:1 end/spr build and its working perfectly. the only time i would think u need more str/hit damage is at lower lvls well u solo train, but with my cleric i have had no trouble at all doing that. Plus when u get to be a higher lvl only a moron would be a cleric and try to kill things, clerics are ment to sapport a main slayer :D
Thank you for the advice. I am so very grateful that we have a 2-day old expert of this game. We would all be lost without your sage advice.


Seriously, 2 days? And you think you know something? STR isn't useless, but it's not for everyone. Summit made some very good points. If you're into PvP, strength has a much greater appeal. Personally, I don't PvP. In fact, I am not even in a guild. If I were to join a guild, I'd either create an exhibition guild myself or join some friend's guild. That's not to say I'd watch them die in a guild war. I would support them, but it is certainly not the focus of my build.

Now, @Kelso - You say only a moron would be a cleric and try to kill things.

That's the most ignorant n00bish statement I've seen here in awhile. :)
If you look around the mid to high level areas, you'll notice about 75% of the people that are soloing are.....DING DING DING....CLERICS.

A lot of morons playing this game, according to you. :(

[yukijin]

my build has str in it and i dont regret it. i solo alot, however.

[kraehe]

Depends on do you want to be soloing most of the time or be more supportive.

[Sheizou_Marizou]

I would say so, yes. Clerics have the low DPS in the game, they are healers, not DDs. I'm not discriminating (And yeah, if you decided to use str, that's fine, it's your build not mine), and saying healing is all they can do, but some clerics think they're being moaned at when they're asked to heal.

The best example of this was when I was about level 7, and me and another archer were pting with a cleric who refused to buy the heal skill because we should be able to heal ourselves. She refused to listen so I kicked her from the party to prevent this ridiculous leaching.

[TaintedHeir]

i'm 25 spr and rest on str... i can solo orcs at lvl 44 with ease for the fact that i can do damage, i can duo with a fighter with amazing results for the fact that i can hit harder then the tank.. and steal heal them. I guess you can say i'm a multi-service cleric/dd.. bad thing is once i start on a mob its hard for tank to take back aggro if they loose it (and ask a few tank.. they will loose it) I like my spr/str build.. very hard to play having less then a k end at lvl 44 but that is what buffs and heal is for right?

[cb2000a]

I am a party cleric mostly so I put most into end (so i can take punishment
and keep healing) and a little into spr. I enjoy working with a good team.

[SiphoneiMillei]

I actually have MOST of my build into END so that I can have a decent level of HP when I go after these monsters that dish out 100point hits. But I do have some in STR and SPR, and a very little in DEX just so I can at least HIT the damn thing. :)

[kraehe]

i'm 25 spr and rest on str... i can solo orcs at lvl 44 with ease for the fact that i can do damage, i can duo with a fighter with amazing results for the fact that i can hit harder then the tank.. and steal heal them. I guess you can say i'm a multi-service cleric/dd.. bad thing is once i start on a mob its hard for tank to take back aggro if they loose it (and ask a few tank.. they will loose it) I like my spr/str build.. very hard to play having less then a k end at lvl 44 but that is what buffs and heal is for right?

I guess it really depends on how well you know how to play your cleric. Having low hp means more healing especially if you get attacked by multible mobs. If people can't handle that they shouldn't try that build, but if it's works for you then good ^^

[bravolover]

Im a strength cleric, so of course im going to say that it's useful, pointless question

[TaintedHeir]

I guess it really depends on how well you know how to play your cleric. Having low hp means more healing especially if you get attacked by multible mobs. If people can't handle that they shouldn't try that build, but if it's works for you then good ^^

yes.. this is so true.. if you are not use to the class of cleric enough a str build is totally not right for you.. i never really recomend a str build to anyone... i only use it because i like to solo more then party... as i said earlier it is a very hard build to play higher in lvls.. unbuffed i have 974 hp at lvl 44 and my deff is much lower also, for a first time cleric go more end, but if you want a challange and want to solo higher lvl mobs faster go str, but if you work mostly parties best to go end and spr

[Luna_Moore]

I wouldn't call it useless but I definately wouldn't go pure STR on ANY class.

I'm going for a +25 SPR and was originally planning all END after that but recently, I've had little need for END and am wondering if I should just put some points into STR for added power. I can heal myself and it's sort of pointless to have more than 100 more hp than my heal can recover. (i.e. I have 600hp and heal 500hp.) My damage is on the lacking side though. lol. I doubt I'll go over +10 STR.

[Omammarata]

im have a cleric that just hit 40 n i can hold 3 harkens or weakened ogres =)
2:1 str:end. btw i love the damage i do in pvp too i dont like playing support n seeing as clerics are practically the hardest things to kill in game why not go for battle build. support clerics are nice but... i see them die too many times =)

[Omammarata]

oh btw. i hit 40 in 8 days =P all solo. think str is useless?

[Exodyus]

i dont think it is but some others do think its worthless?


it's not worthless, but not as valuable as END and SPR for a cleric.

Totally depends on the build you're looking for.

SPR is good for our casting abilities. More SP = More casts and Critical is crucial for Clerics because we need all the hard hits we can get.

STR is excellent. Depending on your build, it's essential for a hybrid or battle build cleric.
I can heal and destroy things at the same time. I love my battle built cleric. And my cleric is an excellent battle partner for parties because of our party skills as well as my fighting ability.

END is the most useful, I think. A solid defense is the best offense. Lots of HP, huge defensive positioning. It's a win-win situation.

[Jhanniss]

STR as a stat on the cleric, not so hot but its really nice on our weapons. I reserved my points into END and SPR since most of the cleric weapons later on have a lot of STR in them. I prefer to put into the stats we use all the time and then use equipment to boost the non-essential like STR and DEX

[Chewy]

yea, i agree with jhan, i mean i put 15 points into str on my cleric, and its not bad for me, but if i remade a cleric, i would probably go end and spr only. The only reason i might raise str is for if you plan to use a hammer. For maces, i think its better to focus on spr as a second stat for the crit ratio increase, imo. But hey, i love my cleric as it is, so its really up to what you want to do with yours.