Need some help deciding betweens builds

[MusuMith]

I don't like being gear dependant so I am not including agi/pow/men from equips , and I am talking about once I hit 112

72 agi 32 men rest pow
72 agi 24 men rest pow
32 men rest pow
32 men 24 agi rest pow

Build 1
129 pts
72 Agi
32 Men
43 Pow

Attack = 65.4
Dodge = 32.74
Skill Crit = 27.25
Hit Rate= 95.41
Skill speed= 7
WC = 2820


Build 2
129 pts
72 agi
24 men
51 pow

Attack 70.75
Dodge 31.74
Skill Crit 23.25
Hit Rate 92.75
Skill Speed 6
WC 3060

Build 3
129 pts
9 Agi
32 Men
106 Pow

Attack = 75.9
Dodge = 11.74
Skill Crit = 16
Hit Rate + 95.35
Skill Speed 4
WC 4710

Build 4
129 pts
24 agi
32 men
91 pow

Attack 73.4
Dodge 16.74
Skill Crit 19.25
Hit Rate 95.3
Skill Speed 5
WC 4260

which looks best to you guys O.O?

[Orangeman21]

I like build 4 first since that is the most like my own build for my archer its really fast and hits pretty hard.

Then its a toss up between 1 and 2 leaning a bit more towards 2 because sacraficing the men with all that agi shouldn't hurt your attack speed.

I don't like 3 since it would be slower than the others only for more pot capacity and 5 more attack.

[wardomic]

With what options you've given i'd go with either build 4 or build 2

[MusuMith]

Is there a better build in your guys opinions?

[wardomic]

It's debatable really,I've heard 33 men is a magic number for spam speed that can't be boosted any further by agi or more men, I've also seen ranger in action who's tried almost every build possible from pure agi, a little men rest agi, the old fashion pow/men, pow/agi/men, you name it he's tried it. There are so many working possibilities you just have to find the one that's for you.

[MusuMith]

Isn't the magic number 32 not 33 O.O? your formula says Men/8 + Agi /24 for skill speed , so 32 men would be the cap right? My current build is heading towards 91 pow , 24 agi 32 men at 112 , I think I may try that , if I don't like it try a agi/men oriented build

[wardomic]

Some stats are confusing, the 33 men thing wasn't told to me til a few weeks go and I tried it on a nub scout not long ago, tho i can't remember if 32 and 33 men were the same or not. Too late to recheck unless I make another scout which would be my 8th one <.<. 32 men 24 agi is proven to be faster than 32 men alone that much is certain, whether or not it's the same as 33 men or not is debatable. As you get faster it becomes harder to tell if you are really faster or not.

Men/8 + Agi /24 is a bit of an old formula that still works, was made from tests, and a few theories and testimonies from other players and for the most part seems accurate. The 33 Men however is a bit of an oddball that still needs testing between it and 32 men to really see if it's correct or not. I can demonstrate it as a scout any time really. I've also heard that your skill speed can increase after a job change allowing for slightly faster skills.

[bobalitos]

if you really press me to choose between all of those options, I would go for option 2. I personally don't care much for skill crits and I value dodge and damage with a VERY decent spam speed =]

One day you will be amidst an aoe respawn in a map where they each hit you around 150. There'll essentially be three outcomes:

a) you're dead
b) you're alive, thanks to dodge :D
c) you're alive, thanks to sparkcash pots/elixirs

I like scenario B. =3