Am I crazy...

[kraisen]

Or are archers the only class that is in line for PvP.

I have always heard and thought that it should go like this:

Archer>Mage
Mage>Fighter
Fighter>Archer
Cleric=All

If you interpret this correctly and consider it to be the way the game should be, then it seems that archers are the only ones in line.

I still think that our issue doesn't lie with us, but with fighters.

What do you think?

[solarwings]

I think we're missing a few skills..
Andthat actually is how it goes lol, Archers pwn mages.
Any half decent archer can kill an un-charmed mage

[soulofdarkness]

If the mage has all their defensive skills on cooldown, that is

[thondfa]

That is not how it actually is.. That is moreless a combat triangle from another game taht was brought to ppl that played it. It is called the combat triangle, a melee owns archer because of weak armour and the high def of a melee, mage owns melee because the lowered in mdef a fighter has, and archer kills mage because the increased mdef in armour and the fast attacks that u dont need to be right next to a mage to kill them when ur an archer u dont have to be obiviously...? In fiesta that is not the case a bit mages and fighters both kill archers because archers get no pvp attacks until lvl 100 and when a mage and fighter get pvp attacks make it alot more difficult for them to kite because their is limited space in areas of the pvp type. The reason why u wonder they made fighters and mages stronger..? not to mention it is fact proven in this link: http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255511 > That is why. Its about money because archers dont need cookies or extenders they can outrun ne monster while owning them therefore their is no point in a cookie. But for mages and fighters they thought lets make them stronger and archer the weaker class so less people play them. therefore 90-105 is practically all grinding so mages and tanks bought extenders..cookies..etc. So the more people that play fighter and mage the better it is for outspark because the world revolves around them. Oh nice life outspark.

[solarwings]

Archer's arnt designed to be a pvp class in this OS version, which is why they basically
dont have anything to counter mage skills with, i agree

[defiant_saim]

Archer's arnt designed to be a pvp class in this OS version

Is that an official statement from OnsOn or from Outspark?

[da_greatist19]

Is that an official statement from OnsOn or from Outspark?

It's pretty obvious that they arent...I think archers speak for themselves lol...think about it...do u ever see archer's pking?? nope...u know why lol?? I'll leave that for someone else to answer...:p

I can give u a hint. Starts with S and ends with t..LOL

[kraisen]

It's pretty obvious that they arent...I think archers speak for themselves lol...think about it...do u ever see archer's pking?? nope...u know why lol?? I'll leave that for someone else to answer...:p

I can give u a hint. Starts with S and ends with t..LOL

Actually, I am a pking archer.

[seven_]

Or are archers the only class that is in line for PvP.

I have always heard and thought that it should go like this:

Archer>Mage
Mage>Fighter
Fighter>Archer
Cleric=All



I think that is pretty close to how it is...until you get to level 60 and mages get fear. In my level 47 archer i can put up a good fight with mages +/- 2 levels, sometime i get killed, sometime I kill. Maybe things go back to this when you reach prestige and finally get entangle, but I'm not very familiar with the prestige classes

[defiant_saim]

It's pretty obvious that they arent...I think archers speak for themselves lol...think about it...do u ever see archer's pking?? nope...u know why lol?? I'll leave that for someone else to answer...:p

I can give u a hint. Starts with S and ends with t..LOL

The fact that archers (as a whole) are not fully able to enjoy a large (and growing) part of the game is more indicating that archers are currently unintentionally broken. It's completely different from the claim that archers are actually consciously designed to be able to be bad in PvP. Why on earth would they do that? It doesn't make any sense to me at all.

[defiant_saim]

Maybe things go back to this when you reach prestige and finally get entangle, but I'm not very familiar with the prestige classes

If you are lucky and it works, entangle might just buy you enough time to run away and hide. Mages can actually dispel entangle.

It's actually much worse for the prestige classes. It's not just Fear anymore, but at 100+ there's also Mesmerize and Ice Field. Each one of these skills is better than entangle.

[Moxxie]

Give sharpshooters entangle too? xD

[prince_1021]

It's pretty obvious that they arent...I think archers speak for themselves lol...think about it...do u ever see archer's pking?? nope...u know why lol?? I'll leave that for someone else to answer...:p

I can give u a hint. Starts with S and ends with t..LOL

I'm a pking Archer also. I pwn Mages all the time and full END Fighters with no aim. The pvp system is suppose to be a triangle but OS messed up the Archer class and made the Mage class too overpowered. At 100+ it is Mages>all class basically. The only class that can stand a chance a Mage is another Mage. Nothing more to say but if your a 100+ Mage and knows how to pvp then basically no one can beat you.

[Dthugtherealist]

The thing about Pk'ing/Pkk'ing is past 86 your career is over for it and even then nothing compares to PvP 95+/100+ and yea your right mages do dominate but I still believe in the fact that a skilled archer/fighter can drop the mage with ease. But yea Archers are cripple still beyond belief they need some key adjustments and skill to get them close to be able to have a chance of dropping fighters/clerics and dominating mages.

[Moxxie]

I find it so hard to kill a cleric with a +9 shield or armour. Well they can't kill me

[solarwings]

The fact that archers (as a whole) are not fully able to enjoy a large (and growing) part of the game is more indicating that archers are currently unintentionally broken. It's completely different from the claim that archers are actually consciously designed to be able to be bad in PvP. Why on earth would they do that? It doesn't make any sense to me at all.

They just don't excel at pvp


I find it so hard to kill a cleric with a +9 shield or armour. Well they can't kill me

Full Str Cleric w/ +10 Hammer/Mace is pretty deadly actually if your an archer xD
And charmed/crit buff is even worse

[xogeley]

They just don't excel at pvp

Why should a class that's designed to be cunning, deceiving, evasive, and have the ability to set traps suck at pvp .-. thats so disappointing, it's basically saying "use a crapload of sc on a mage/fighter if you wanna compete with any other player or quit"

[solarwings]

It's just the way we are right now though