"I just pked you therefore I'm skilled" O.o

[dazzlejstar]

yeah, idk about other people but I wouldn't classify a lvl 56 being "skilled" for being able to beat a lvl 34. If that lvl 56 could beat a lvl 64 mage(in a fair fight) or something like that, then he/she would be "skilled".
also, when people team like 4 vs 1(equal lvls), beat that one, and think that they are the ultimately greater than others for doing that. beating 1 person with 3 comrades on your side does not require much skill.

so basicly my question is, why does winning on uneven grounds make people think they are skilled? Are you one of those people? (I hope not...)
I find it hilarious when those people get killed in a fair fight.

this isn't an anti-pker thread o.o;. It's a PvP zone, there's bound to be some PvPing and Pking... I've pked a few times myself. And to those who say all pkers are skilled, you might want to check the gears and/or sc items they have. Every pker I have every made friends with has either godly gears or plenty of sc items.
I never should of made this thread, people obviously don't understand what I am saying.

[solarwings]

Tip: Pker's love it when you get mad, it puts the fun in pking

[Dragonfly77]

To all those skillful pkers: Facer0lling is not a skill.

kthnksbai.

[c8itlyn]

Must.... not... get ....... dragged.....into...... pointless..... pk...... threads ........ gnnnghhhhhh

[Dragonfly77]

You cannot resist...the Abyss has cookies..come to the dark side...

[c8itlyn]

*EXPLODES*

Gah you all say it. "HURR THEY KILLS MEH 10 LURVELS AHEAD HERP NO SKILLZZZ IM TEH L33TEST!!!"

If that's the case then why not go level up to the PKers level and go back and fight them? Hmm? Eh? Whats that you say? You would still get your *censored* handed to you giftwrapped with a bow on a plate? But gosh! How is that if they have no skills?

Fact is PKers are damn good players and to tell them they are unskilled is just gonna get you dead. They don't just sit in the abyss' killing all day long. They go and farm dungeon bosses.... solo.... Can an unskilled player do that?

What we have here is another case of someone thinking that they can cry and moan because they are getting killed in a place designated for PvP. And don't give me the "abyss is for grinding" speech. Here's how it breaks down.

3 map types.
1=PvE (normal maps and dungeons)
2=PvP (free battle zones)
3=PvP+E (abyss)

99% of MMORPGs have entire servers dedicated to each type where as we are lucky enough to have all 3 types on each server.
If you dont want to PvP stay on the PvE maps. If you don't want to PvE then go to FBZ. If you want to do both then go to the abyss. It's not a difficult concept.

What winds me up the most is when players say PvP should be stopped in the abyss or KP's should be taken away so people can go and grind in the abyss without the fear of being PKed. WHY? PKers are not asking that exp is lowered on PvE maps or drops are taken away so that people who want to level and make money are forced to go to the abyss.

Oh and up until about 4 months ago I wasn't a PKer. But the amount of threads popping up like this one got me so wound up that I decided to make a PK char who now sits happily in the 2X and kills anyone I feel like killing. And to be completely honest I really hope that my killing people gets everyone I kill to come to the forums and flood the PvP section with "I got PK'd and I can't handle it" threads so that OS get so narked with it that they close these threads on sight. So yeah. Keep making these threads guys and keep complaining. It wont stop you getting owned so hard that your alt dies too but it just might eventually catch22 on yous and force yous to stop complaining.

[da_greatist19]

To all those skillful pkers: Facer0lling is not a skill.

kthnksbai.

I'd have to agree with you on this one. On lower lvls its a contest of numbers mostly...def, dmg, hp and eva. Pkers improve their gears over time so they kinda have an advantage over a regular player that comes into abyss. Most Pkers are either heavy Sc users or moderate Sc users..and with enhanced godly gears..their pretty hard to beat. 90% of the time it isnt even a full faceroll...to get that much out of a pker would be like woo lol...




*EXPLODES*

Gah you all say it. "HURR THEY KILLS MEH 10 LURVELS AHEAD HERP NO SKILLZZZ IM TEH L33TEST!!!"

If that's the case then why not go level up to the PKers level and go back and fight them? Hmm? Eh? Whats that you say? You would still get your *censored* handed to you giftwrapped with a bow on a plate? But gosh! How is that if they have no skills?

Fact is PKers are damn good players and to tell them they are unskilled is just gonna get you dead. They don't just sit in the abyss' killing all day long. They go and farm dungeon bosses.... solo.... Can an unskilled player do that?

What we have here is another case of someone thinking that they can cry and moan because they are getting killed in a place designated for PvP. And don't give me the "abyss is for grinding" speech. Here's how it breaks down.

3 map types.
1=PvE (normal maps and dungeons)
2=PvP (free battle zones)
3=PvP+E (abyss)

99% of MMORPGs have entire servers dedicated to each type where as we are lucky enough to have all 3 types on each server.
If you dont want to PvP stay on the PvE maps. If you don't want to PvE then go to FBZ. If you want to do both then go to the abyss. It's not a difficult concept.

What winds me up the most is when players say PvP should be stopped in the abyss or KP's should be taken away so people can go and grind in the abyss without the fear of being PKed. WHY? PKers are not asking that exp is lowered on PvE maps or drops are taken away so that people who want to level and make money are forced to go to the abyss.

Oh and up until about 4 months ago I wasn't a PKer. But the amount of threads popping up like this one got me so wound up that I decided to make a PK char who now sits happily in the 2X and kills anyone I feel like killing. And to be completely honest I really hope that my killing people gets everyone I kill to come to the forums and flood the PvP section with "I got PK'd and I can't handle it" threads so that OS get so narked with it that they close these threads on sight. So yeah. Keep making these threads guys and keep complaining. It wont stop you getting owned so hard that your alt dies too but it just might eventually catch22 on yous and force yous to stop complaining.

Like I said it's just godly gears...chances of someone new to the game coming in and owning a pker is like 0%. Normally the people that own pkers are people with high lvl mains that make a nub. Other than that regular low lvls dont stand a chance. For example my Ex-Friend had like almost 1900 dmg with mighty set vit and over 500 base eva..at lvl 46. Obviously a normal person cant beat her...they would call her cookied but she wasnt..so ya. I have no opinion on this topic anymore. Cause aslong as their are abyss's this will be the case.

[soulofdarkness]

Ex-Friend :(

btw most 'pkers' are actually alot better at the game compared to others, even without the gear...

[Dragonfly77]

A match between two equally balance characters in terms of class, gears, weapons, and sparkcash would drag on for a long long long time. True PvP skill is being able to face a challenge and overcome it, like fighting a higher level. Other than that, it's just....meh.

[soulofdarkness]

A good fight in my opinion lasts 10-12 stuns, with lots of close calls (less than 500-1000hp)

[da_greatist19]

Ex-Friend :(

btw most 'pkers' are actually alot better at the game compared to others, even without the gear...

No no lol...it's not anybody here. People that know me a tiny bit know who I'm talking about. I have to agree with what everyone's saying these days. Most of the pkers these days are just all SC...they dont even rely on decent gears. I was PvPing one of these new so called "Kings" of abyss and I actually lost very badly. To people that have seen me in PvP they know I can lose, but not like in 3 hits to someone my lvl...just isn't possible. I asked to see the guys gears and he said no. Later i asked some guy about him and the guy said he's cookied 24/7 and has white gears plus 0 with extender and cookies. So I cant disagree with what most say these days. I don't condone or agree with many of the things that happen in abyss. All I can say is if u can avoid it, avoid it.



A match between two equally balance characters in terms of class, gears, weapons, and sparkcash would drag on for a long long long time. True PvP skill is being able to face a challenge and overcome it, like fighting a higher level. Other than that, it's just....meh.

Have u ever seen a battle between to end fighters full plus 9 lol...never ends...

[kittren]

theres not a whole lot you can do about it >:

I wouldnt try to get revenge though, that will just make the chances of you being pk'd greater ;/ people who hangout in abyss are usually ALL friends with eachother.

but if you're trying to level, just do quests or try a different abyss c:

use the "20 levels" rule to see if you get exp in higher abysses that are empty o:

[Dragonfly77]

No no lol...it's not anybody here. People that know me a tiny bit know who I'm talking about. I have to agree with what everyone's saying these days. Most of the pkers these days are just all SC...they dont even rely on decent gears. I was PvPing one of these new so called "Kings" of abyss and I actually lost very badly. To people that have seen me in PvP they know I can lose, but not like in 3 hits to someone my lvl...just isn't possible. I asked to see the guys gears and he said no. Later i asked some guy about him and the guy said he's cookied 24/7 and has white gears plus 0 with extender and cookies. So I cant disagree with what most say these days. I don't condone or agree with many of the things that happen in abyss. All I can say is if u can avoid it, avoid it.

I know, it's just...sad. They didn't work to get up to that point to be powerful, heh. But heck, it's their money they're wasting to pay for my free game, so I can't really complain. As long as people know who really are the true Kings and Queens of the Abysses, let 'em be.



Have u ever seen a battle between to end fighters full plus 9 lol...never ends...

XD I've been in a fight with end-based tankers. My little tank fighter and some hotshot that waltzed into the abyss. Best. Fight. Ever.

[WindCaster]

Wait wait wait... are you saying there's skill involved in Fiesta in the first place? Well, there's your problem.

[fatmanhouse]

Theres TWO types of pkers in Fiesta - Those who fail horribly and know nothing about fiesta,Need to have cookie shooting our their *** to win.....AND....Those pros e.e who're just bored as a **** and decide to kill people for no reason at all for the hell of it.Like Nita pointed out Gears matter o.e"!*Unless you're a sc hoe* My expriences as a pker,I've met lots of fails o-o''! Many who tried to kill me o-o and failed because they know nothing about the game nor their class....they solely require sc to "gain the upper hand" Sooo next time you get pked e.e ask yourself is it worth pmsing when you get killed by someone who cant do bullshizlez in the big leagues?

[narutotupe]

pking is lame. and no. fiesta require only alittle skill. and for fighters how 2 stack and how 2 hax longdistance deva. then a bag of sc and u have a epic pker lol. get 2 lvl 105 doesnt require skilsl either. just firends that wanna plvl and paitence. BUT pking other sc-nubs at lvl 105! THAT requires skill

[KungFuHobo]

Hold on while I try to decide whether or not to post seriously on this thread.

Question(s):
Did whoever pk'd you ever claim that they had skill? Or did you assume that they thought so?
Or did you call them names, and the claim that they had skill was a response?

People don't PK to prove that they have skill (not usually anyway), more often than not it's one of the following:

1) Guild [Or Guild Academy] Feuds.
-They don't like your guild master
-They don't like guild members
-They dislike how a previous war went
-They want to rub it in after a war
-Guild Kill On Sight rule
2) Personal reasons [All of the ones I've killed for ;D]
-You wouldn't sell them something.
-You Outbid them on some item.
-You were selling them something, but by the time they'd made it from Storage to you, you'd sold it to someone else.
-They were asked by a friend.
-They just plain don't like you.
-You sell overpriced T3 Scrolls
-They don't like your spouse.
-They dislike your mother. [This spawns from one day, I pk'd someone and my spouse got an SS of them saying "KILL BACKHAND, MURDER HIS FAMILY, **** HIS MUM UP"]
-They were paid to.
-You scammed them, their friends, etc.
-You roar too much.
3)They were told Leaderboards >>>>>>>>>>> Free 10K Sc every Week (QQ).
4)They're bored.
5)Other.

[iamgrendle]

omg its laughable that people in this game even think there is any skill involved, by far easiest no brainer mmo ever made. he who has the least lag wins. period. lolol.

[Icetra]

-They dislike your mother. [This spawns from one day, I pk'd someone and my spouse got an SS of them saying "KILL BACKHAND, MURDER HIS FAMILY, **** HIS MUM UP"]


LOL!

You have skill when PKing someone if your opponent was mighty as you, or even stronger, not killing someone that has no equivalence of your own power.

Hm. At some points, maybe this game needs skill. But it's really isn't that hard to figure out. :/

[Dragonfly77]

omg its laughable that people in this game even think there is any skill involved, by far easiest no brainer mmo ever made. he who has the least lag wins. period. lolol.

there is no skill if they just cash up. Try being a PvP archer and let's see how well you fair if no skill is required.

[dazzlejstar]

Hold on while I try to decide whether or not to post seriously on this thread.

Question(s):
Did whoever pk'd you ever claim that they had skill? Or did you assume that they thought so?
people have claimed that they have skill when they pk. lol.
Or did you call them names, and the claim that they had skill was a response?
I don't usually call people names, unless I'm really mad but pking isn't usually something that makes me made.

People don't PK to prove that they have skill (not usually anyway), more often than not it's one of the following:

I know/have seen a lot of people that pk to show they have skill.
many pkers do pk for other reasons, but those aren't the pkers I'm talking about
1) Guild [Or Guild Academy] Feuds.
-They don't like your guild master
-They don't like guild members
-They dislike how a previous war went
-They want to rub it in after a war
-Guild Kill On Sight rule
2) Personal reasons [All of the ones I've killed for ;D]
-You wouldn't sell them something.
-You Outbid them on some item.
-You were selling them something, but by the time they'd made it from Storage to you, you'd sold it to someone else.
-They were asked by a friend.
-They just plain don't like you.
-You sell overpriced T3 Scrolls
-They don't like your spouse.
-They dislike your mother. [This spawns from one day, I pk'd someone and my spouse got an SS of them saying "KILL BACKHAND, MURDER HIS FAMILY, **** HIS MUM UP"]
-They were paid to.
-You scammed them, their friends, etc.
-You roar too much.
3)They were told Leaderboards >>>>>>>>>>> Free 10K Sc every Week (QQ).
4)They're bored.
5)Other.
..........

[dazzlejstar]

omg its laughable that people in this game even think there is any skill involved, by far easiest no brainer mmo ever made. he who has the least lag wins. period. lolol.
If you think this game has no skill then why even bother playing it? A game that requires no skill would be boring. To be honest, I don't think you truly agree with this statement since you do play fiesta, unless you need to play a "no-brainer" mmo.

[dazzlejstar]

*EXPLODES*

Gah you all say it. "HURR THEY KILLS MEH 10 LURVELS AHEAD HERP NO SKILLZZZ IM TEH L33TEST!!!"

If that's the case then why not go level up to the PKers level and go back and fight them? Hmm? Eh? Whats that you say? You would still get your *censored* handed to you giftwrapped with a bow on a plate? But gosh! How is that if they have no skills?

Fact is PKers are damn good players and to tell them they are unskilled is just gonna get you dead. They don't just sit in the abyss' killing all day long. They go and farm dungeon bosses.... solo.... Can an unskilled player do that?

What we have here is another case of someone thinking that they can cry and moan because they are getting killed in a place designated for PvP. And don't give me the "abyss is for grinding" speech. Here's how it breaks down.

3 map types.
1=PvE (normal maps and dungeons)
2=PvP (free battle zones)
3=PvP+E (abyss)

99% of MMORPGs have entire servers dedicated to each type where as we are lucky enough to have all 3 types on each server.
If you dont want to PvP stay on the PvE maps. If you don't want to PvE then go to FBZ. If you want to do both then go to the abyss. It's not a difficult concept.

What winds me up the most is when players say PvP should be stopped in the abyss or KP's should be taken away so people can go and grind in the abyss without the fear of being PKed. WHY? PKers are not asking that exp is lowered on PvE maps or drops are taken away so that people who want to level and make money are forced to go to the abyss.

Oh and up until about 4 months ago I wasn't a PKer. But the amount of threads popping up like this one got me so wound up that I decided to make a PK char who now sits happily in the 2X and kills anyone I feel like killing. And to be completely honest I really hope that my killing people gets everyone I kill to come to the forums and flood the PvP section with "I got PK'd and I can't handle it" threads so that OS get so narked with it that they close these threads on sight. So yeah. Keep making these threads guys and keep complaining. It wont stop you getting owned so hard that your alt dies too but it just might eventually catch22 on yous and force yous to stop complaining.

you clearly missed the point of this thread...

[xtaaxt]

I can't resist either.

[da_greatist19]

*comes in from fireworks dead tired* Honestly someone needs to close this thread. This thread is pointless. These statements will forever end these threads once and for all. Pking people doesn't even require a faceroll...to anyone that says that it does then your either:

A) A weak "Pker"

B) the person your atking is reasonably strong

C) or u don't know what your doing lol, simple. (unless you Pk on the higher lvl's)

Why would a Pker brag about having skills? most of it is actually one shotting noobs. I mean if they Pk someone a high lvl or same lvl u may see a half face roll but thats it lol. Just don't go to abyss, simple. It's where they hangout and socialize with each other. it's like a group of bullies that hang out in a certain area..nobody goes by there cause they dont wanna get jumped..so u avoid the area.

I sympathize with the people that enter abyss now that go and grind. One time they killed my daughter Bunny, and I whispered the noob that did it and I was like u do know shes my daughter right? lol...a few minutes later..mommy came to the rescue LoL. Since my old generation of Pkers are gone...the new generation are weaker..with cheap gears and weird builds. I guess new people to the game have it hard when buying plus 9's since things are so expensive now, so only people with mains or existing Pkers can afford to shell out large amounts of money for godlies.

I fought a lvl 46 fighter and his build was 23 int,14 end,10 str, 4 dex. I beat him in FBZ 2 so badly...I wanted to put on a show so I took off all my Sc and gears..and I beat him with a plus 0 GGK axe...and he was using a plus 9 axe with kick gears...THESE are the new generation of Pkers. I'd say that was quite skillful..but i had points on dura and cd for deva...and cd for power hit. So we stunned each other and then i finished him basically b4 the stun was done...and i won just like that.

Anyways no point in bragging about that. Skill didn't really save me. It was my knowledge of skills and how certain things worked...so I empowered things correctly, he didn't. Off coarse on the higher lvl's people aren't idiots so it's not as easy to own. People have godly gears plus 9 and SC just like you do. What then you say?? even I'm not sure what to say lol...

[ethercloud7]

reasons i killed someone

-Someone sell overpriced T3/4 Scrolls

Guilty as charged >.> i murdered his house 2 weeks in a row, hunted his alts mercilessly in abyss, and killed his guildies till he lowered price 21s for a t4 def/25s for t4 agl giv me a break loser and he bought sbls t3 at 1.5s what a cheapskate, and he was only scroll vendor in town for a long time but he price gouged hard.

And i intentionally try to murder players 20+ lvls higher decked out with full +9 str/dex/spr gears, mighty set for swap, full sc crit suit, charms, skin and potions(not sc potions too expensive >.>), idc what it takes to win when u can drop a 1xx mage's/archer and 9x fighter/clerics with a 6x-7x fighter then u can talk to me till then I'm not impressed :P

[ethercloud7]

No no lol...it's not anybody here. People that know me a tiny bit know who I'm talking about. I have to agree with what everyone's saying these days. Most of the pkers these days are just all SC...they dont even rely on decent gears. I was PvPing one of these new so called "Kings" of abyss and I actually lost very badly. To people that have seen me in PvP they know I can lose, but not like in 3 hits to someone my lvl...just isn't possible. I asked to see the guys gears and he said no. Later i asked some guy about him and the guy said he's cookied 24/7 and has white gears plus 0 with extender and cookies. So I cant disagree with what most say these days. I don't condone or agree with many of the things that happen in abyss. All I can say is if u can avoid it, avoid it.




Have u ever seen a battle between to end fighters full plus 9 lol...never ends...

let me giv u a huge tip remake your fighter, 75 dex rest str, target only gears with 30+ dex on them and get a +10 axe 30+dex, even if they charm they still lose in most cases, u even beat full +9d fighters cause they cant land stuns, however if u run into an end build full+9s its a stalemate hard everytime.

[c8itlyn]

Hold on while I try to decide whether or not to post seriously on this thread.

Question(s):
Did whoever pk'd you ever claim that they had skill? Or did you assume that they thought so?
Or did you call them names, and the claim that they had skill was a response?

People don't PK to prove that they have skill (not usually anyway), more often than not it's one of the following:

1) Guild [Or Guild Academy] Feuds.
-They don't like your guild master
-They don't like guild members
-They dislike how a previous war went
-They want to rub it in after a war
-Guild Kill On Sight rule
2) Personal reasons [All of the ones I've killed for ;D]
-You wouldn't sell them something.
-You Outbid them on some item.
-You were selling them something, but by the time they'd made it from Storage to you, you'd sold it to someone else.
-They were asked by a friend.
-They just plain don't like you.
-You sell overpriced T3 Scrolls
-They don't like your spouse.
-They dislike your mother. [This spawns from one day, I pk'd someone and my spouse got an SS of them saying "KILL BACKHAND, MURDER HIS FAMILY, **** HIS MUM UP"]
-They were paid to.
-You scammed them, their friends, etc.
-You roar too much.
3)They were told Leaderboards >>>>>>>>>>> Free 10K Sc every Week (QQ).
4)They're bored.
5)Other.

Ah kungfuhobo. As always the voice of reason :)


you clearly missed the point of this thread...

No I didn't. You got PK'd and didn't like the manner in which you were PK'd is pretty much what you were getting at. My counterpoint was no matter how you were PK'd you have no right to complain. Wether they were 16 levels higher/walking cash shop ads/just doing it for the lulz. You were in a PvP area is what it always comes down too. Fair game for anyone to kill you at anytime. No matter why they did it the fact still remains that you are just ranting about it because you feel hard done by and I was just offering up all the possible arguements to any thing you might have to say about it.

See my siggy "Every PKing thread" (kungfuhobos voice of reason again). you didn't like it, someone did, we all say IT'S THE ABYSS FGS.... GET OVER IT!

[KungFuHobo]

you clearly missed the point of this thread...

Then apparently you weren't clear in your writing. My Lit Teacher might have a hand-out that could help you better get your point across.

[Maybe If I Re-Read the first post I could go find the 'point'.]


yeah, idk about other people but I wouldn't classify a lvl 56 being "skilled" for being able to beat a lvl 34. If that lvl 56 could beat a lvl 64 mage(in a fair fight) or something like that, then he/she would be "skilled".
also, when people team like 4 vs 1(equal lvls), beat that one, and think that they are the ultimately greater than others for doing that. beating 1 person with 3 comrades on your side does not require much skill.

so basically my question is, why does winning on uneven grounds make people think they are skilled? Are you one of those people? (I hope not...)
I find it hilarious when those people get killed in a fair fight.

this isn't an anti-pker thread o.o;. It's a PvP zone, there's bound to be some PvPing and Pking... I've pked a few times myself. And to those who say all pkers are skilled, you might want to check the gears and/or sc items they have. Every pker I have every made friends with has either godly gears or plenty of sc items.
I never should of made this thread, people obviously don't understand what I am saying.

If you're going to edit your post why not make your point more clear... Sorry just my Troll 'If it's broke fix it' mentality here.

Answer to the question:
Because you're on the floor and they aren't ^^;
It sounds sarcastic but that's probably why they think they're skilled


Ah kungfuhobo. As always the voice of reason :)

I was having a bad day until I read this. :)

[Icetra]

No I didn't. You got PK'd and didn't like the manner in which you were PK'd is pretty much what you were getting at. My counterpoint was no matter how you were PK'd you have no right to complain. Wether they were 16 levels higher/walking cash shop ads/just doing it for the lulz. You were in a PvP area is what it always comes down too. Fair game for anyone to kill you at anytime. No matter why they did it the fact still remains that you are just ranting about it because you feel hard done by and I was just offering up all the possible arguements to any thing you might have to say about it.

See my siggy "Every PKing thread" (kungfuhobos voice of reason again). you didn't like it, someone did, we all say IT'S THE ABYSS FGS.... GET OVER IT!

The thing is...folks will NEVER get over it. No matter how you say it, or hope for it...it's not going to end. When you get PKed, you lose some of the things that peeves alot of people off. Time, EXP, and Dignity (This won't apply for all, but the other two do.) They don't realize the risks you're accepting when you're going to a PvP zone. I've been PKed many times, and trust me I get angry over it. (Not much because I have Teva. ;D) But do you see me complaining about it? NO. It's because you're accepting the terms when you enter a PvP zone. People will cut you down, and slam you to the ground for their own pleasure, even though that sounds so wrong...it's not. Because that's how things work, and OutSpark will never change this way of life because it's fattening up their wallets. So to all that think it will stop...the cycle will continue. If you don't like it, then stay away from the abyss, because as soon as you enter, then it begins...

Though, don't think what I say in this post means that I support it. I despise PKing, but these are the terms of the Abyss, so get over it, and just subjugate to it's will.

[skootrevolution]

The whole point of the abyss plays off of the mind of the players. If its legal, someone will do it, no matter how frowned upon the act is. Whatever protest that you may have doesn't matter because in the end, PvP is still legal.

[da_greatist19]

The thing is...folks will NEVER get over it. No matter how you say it, or hope for it...it's not going to end. When you get PKed, you lose some of the things that peeves alot of people off. Time, EXP, and Dignity (This won't apply for all, but the other two do.) They don't realize the risks you're accepting when you're going to a PvP zone. I've been PKed many times, and trust me I get angry over it. (Not much because I have Teva. ;D) But do you see me complaining about it? NO. It's because you're accepting the terms when you enter a PvP zone. People will cut you down, and slam you to the ground for their own pleasure, even though that sounds so wrong...it's not. Because that's how things work, and OutSpark will never change this way of life because it's fattening up their wallets. So to all that think it will stop...the cycle will continue. If you don't like it, then stay away from the abyss, because as soon as you enter, then it begins...

Though, don't think what I say in this post means that I support it. I despise PKing, but these are the terms of the Abyss, so get over it, and just subjugate to it's will.


The whole point of the abyss plays off of the mind of the players. If its legal, someone will do it, no matter how frowned upon the act is. Whatever protest that you may have doesn't matter because in the end, PvP is still legal.

I'm glad the community is finally able to live with it....theirs still hope for the future...lol

[auroraxborealis]

*comes in from fireworks dead tired* Honestly someone needs to close this thread. This thread is pointless. These statements will forever end these threads once and for all. Pking people doesn't even require a faceroll...to anyone that says that it does then your either:

A) A weak "Pker"

B) the person your atking is reasonably strong

C) or u don't know what your doing lol, simple. (unless you Pk on the higher lvl's)

Why would a Pker brag about having skills? most of it is actually one shotting noobs. I mean if they Pk someone a high lvl or same lvl u may see a half face roll but thats it lol. Just don't go to abyss, simple. It's where they hangout and socialize with each other. it's like a group of bullies that hang out in a certain area..nobody goes by there cause they dont wanna get jumped..so u avoid the area.

I sympathize with the people that enter abyss now that go and grind. One time they killed my daughter Bunny, and I whispered the noob that did it and I was like u do know shes my daughter right? lol...a few minutes later..mommy came to the rescue LoL. Since my old generation of Pkers are gone...the new generation are weaker..with cheap gears and weird builds. I guess new people to the game have it hard when buying plus 9's since things are so expensive now, so only people with mains or existing Pkers can afford to shell out large amounts of money for godlies.

I fought a lvl 46 fighter and his build was 23 int,14 end,10 str, 4 dex. I beat him in FBZ 2 so badly...I wanted to put on a show so I took off all my Sc and gears..and I beat him with a plus 0 GGK axe...and he was using a plus 9 axe with kick gears...THESE are the new generation of Pkers. I'd say that was quite skillful..but i had points on dura and cd for deva...and cd for power hit. So we stunned each other and then i finished him basically b4 the stun was done...and i won just like that.

Anyways no point in bragging about that. Skill didn't really save me. It was my knowledge of skills and how certain things worked...so I empowered things correctly, he didn't. Off coarse on the higher lvl's people aren't idiots so it's not as easy to own. People have godly gears plus 9 and SC just like you do. What then you say?? even I'm not sure what to say lol...

He's a noob because he managed to kill a person you met over a game and decided to call a 'daughter?'
'Old generation PKer's' was in late 2008, when Leader Boards first came out, and GaaraOfTheSand was 1st at like 2k KP.
'New generation PKer's' = What I'd classify YOU as.

[Zanec]

Win against your equal in terms of level, gear and SC = moarskillz.
Win against your lesser in terms of same = I see nothing wrong with it unless you are consistently harassing them, but wouldn't call the winning player skilled, nor the losing player unskilled.

[da_greatist19]

He's a noob because he managed to kill a person you met over a game and decided to call a 'daughter?'
'Old generation PKer's' was in late 2008, when Leader Boards first came out, and GaaraOfTheSand was 1st at like 2k KP.
'New generation PKer's' = What I'd classify YOU as.

lol...I was Pking since 08 when the abyss's first opened I was there on Gen... and I had 1700 Kp..people can vouch for me. I did that with no SC except for an old school looking GGK axe and a sailor costume or 600 sc Boop set, so don't be calling me a new school Pker when I've been around forever. My old friend Askari posted a pic on forums not to long ago of when we'd own in PvP kq like 2 years ago http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252190&page=3

Anyways I don't even PK anymore...I pop into abyss every know and then for a fun challenge, that's it. As u can tell my fighter isn't even built for Pking, I'm pure end I just farm and do honeying and dance in Fp afk...

Edit: good job on posting on an alt account. Hiding ftw :cool:

[Baktwerel]

Well... I guess what the OP says is pretty annoying, but hey, what are you expecting from players who spend their freetime in the abyss looking to prey on some players? I mean there are no rules and no penalty. And as someone on the first page said, they like to make you angry.

This pretty much summs up everything. Try to avoid trouble, and if it still finds you in a PVP zone, be prepared for everything. If you find it too unfair, it's not obligatory to do it, you can just take a break from it.

[WindCaster]

lol...I was Pking since 08 when the abyss's first opened I was there on Gen... and I had 1700 Kp..people can vouch for me. I did that with no SC except for an old school looking GGK axe and a sailor costume or 600 sc Boop set, so don't be calling me a new school Pker when I've been around forever. My old friend Askari posted a pic on forums not to long ago of when we'd own in PvP kq like 2 years ago http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252190&page=3

Anyways I don't even PK anymore...I pop into abyss every know and then for a fun challenge, that's it. As u can tell my fighter isn't even built for Pking, I'm pure end I just farm and do honeying and dance in Fp afk...

Edit: good job on posting on an alt account. Hiding ftw :cool:

But PvP KQ wasn't even around for two years, and when the abyss opened up to the public, there was no such thing as a kill point and the level restrictions per abyss were much more strict (ie. 20-29, 30-39)

[narutotupe]

whos cares about having alot of kill points? whos the 1337est of one with 7k kps but person is only 36 n killed alot of lvl 1xs or a lvl 8x killing a lvl 10`x in lvl 90 abyss?

[KungFuHobo]

whos cares about having alot of kill points? whos the 1337est of one with 7k kps but person is only 36 n killed alot of lvl 1xs or a lvl 8x killing a lvl 10`x in lvl 90 abyss?

And what's so 1337 about being 100? Getting there is just as simple as PKing.

Perhaps easier, since Phouches don't stone or port out of AR.

[WindCaster]

Well, I'm sure there are people out there who find having the most amount of KPs is"1337", just like there are people out there who think having the most HP is "1337" or being lv100 is "1337".

Just because you could care less about someone's personal accomplishment or how they got there, doesn't mean it's any less of an accomplishment. I could care less if someone has a certain amount of KPs. As long as they think it's "1337", then more power to them. Most of the time however, I disagree with the method most people reached the ungodly amount of KPs. :|

[spheris]

whos cares about having alot of kill points? whos the 1337est of one with 7k kps but person is only 36 n killed alot of lvl 1xs or a lvl 8x killing a lvl 10`x in lvl 90 abyss?

an afk 100 maybe c:

[Dthugtherealist]

To me getting hyped out Gears at a low lvl and getting SC and being the "biggest and baddest" is nothing skilled. Most of the stuff anyways come from a boss like if you farm GOC right there godly swing set goc rings and a couple weps all you gotta do is get neck and earings and a shield and you are "godly" wow/ sarcasm. When your 9x to get jewelry you gotta go to 3 sources 2 of em require cookieng if you want Gear you gotta compete with other 9x and 10x in TM if you want a wep you either have to save gems for a couple HG's or Farm CKL all day everyday for like 2 months or more.

Then when you PvP there is more competition near the cap takes more skill trust me when I say sitting in an abyss all day with Hyped gears and wep cookied out all that is just a waiste of time and money and doesn't earn you respect. I never Pk'ed my self but I seen Pk'ers just fall out cuz it gets boring then you try to be a "normal" part of the fiesta community and nobody wants you, you try to lvl shiz gets hard you end up quiting theres no point in playing the game like that.

I talked to so many Pk'ers and 10x players the Pk'ers don't know much and the 10x players don't rate them. Fighting people near the cap just takes hell more skill its a different style of PVP cuz everybody that PvP's is godly and has skill.

[DANk1]

To me getting hyped out Gears at a low lvl and getting SC and being the "biggest and baddest" is nothing skilled. Most of the stuff anyways come from a boss like if you farm GOC right there godly swing set goc rings and a couple weps all you gotta do is get neck and earings and a shield and you are "godly" wow/ sarcasm. When your 9x to get jewelry you gotta go to 3 sources 2 of em require cookieng if you want Gear you gotta compete with other 9x and 10x in TM if you want a wep you either have to save gems for a couple HG's or Farm CKL all day everyday for like 2 months or more.

Then when you PvP there is more competition near the cap takes more skill trust me when I say sitting in an abyss all day with Hyped gears and wep cookied out all that is just a waiste of time and money and doesn't earn you respect. I never Pk'ed my self but I seen Pk'ers just fall out cuz it gets boring then you try to be a "normal" part of the fiesta community and nobody wants you, you try to lvl shiz gets hard you end up quiting theres no point in playing the game like that.

I talked to so many Pk'ers and 10x players the Pk'ers don't know much and the 10x players don't rate them. Fighting people near the cap just takes hell more skill its a different style of PVP cuz everybody that PvP's is godly and has skill.

i have 10 times more kill points than dthug therefore im better than him :D

[da_greatist19]

He's a noob because he managed to kill a person you met over a game and decided to call a 'daughter?'
'Old generation PKer's' was in late 2008, when Leader Boards first came out, and GaaraOfTheSand was 1st at like 2k KP.
'New generation PKer's' = What I'd classify YOU as.


i have 10 times more kill points than dthug therefore im better than him :D

I have 2 times more Kp than you, therefore I'm better than you dank :D LOl jks..*looks at nuby self* :(

[Dthugtherealist]

Aight Dank so you say just hit 100 and fight me and then you'll see lol.

[narutotupe]

i wish i could return my kps back 2 0. i rly hate the bigass number on my mage Dx the rest of my char got less than 2k 8D

[nikky241]

*EXPLODES*

Gah you all say it. "HURR THEY KILLS MEH 10 LURVELS AHEAD HERP NO SKILLZZZ IM TEH L33TEST!!!"

If that's the case then why not go level up to the PKers level and go back and fight them? Hmm? Eh? Whats that you say? You would still get your *censored* handed to you giftwrapped with a bow on a plate? But gosh! How is that if they have no skills?

Fact is PKers are damn good players and to tell them they are unskilled is just gonna get you dead. They don't just sit in the abyss' killing all day long. They go and farm dungeon bosses.... solo.... Can an unskilled player do that?

What we have here is another case of someone thinking that they can cry and moan because they are getting killed in a place designated for PvP. And don't give me the "abyss is for grinding" speech. Here's how it breaks down.

3 map types.
1=PvE (normal maps and dungeons)
2=PvP (free battle zones)
3=PvP+E (abyss)

99% of MMORPGs have entire servers dedicated to each type where as we are lucky enough to have all 3 types on each server.
If you dont want to PvP stay on the PvE maps. If you don't want to PvE then go to FBZ. If you want to do both then go to the abyss. It's not a difficult concept.

What winds me up the most is when players say PvP should be stopped in the abyss or KP's should be taken away so people can go and grind in the abyss without the fear of being PKed. WHY? PKers are not asking that exp is lowered on PvE maps or drops are taken away so that people who want to level and make money are forced to go to the abyss.

Oh and up until about 4 months ago I wasn't a PKer. But the amount of threads popping up like this one got me so wound up that I decided to make a PK char who now sits happily in the 2X and kills anyone I feel like killing. And to be completely honest I really hope that my killing people gets everyone I kill to come to the forums and flood the PvP section with "I got PK'd and I can't handle it" threads so that OS get so narked with it that they close these threads on sight. So yeah. Keep making these threads guys and keep complaining. It wont stop you getting owned so hard that your alt dies too but it just might eventually catch22 on yous and force yous to stop complaining.

actually yes unskilled people can solo dungeon bosses with a little thing called charms, so yeah no all PKers are skilled, some of 'em are what we call charmers who can kill anyone and anything, believe me charms can make a squishy lvl 34 mage able to solo ZK in grave yard of the dead

[WindCaster]

*EXPLODES*

Gah you all say it. "HURR THEY KILLS MEH 10 LURVELS AHEAD HERP NO SKILLZZZ IM TEH L33TEST!!!"

If that's the case then why not go level up to the PKers level and go back and fight them? Hmm? Eh? Whats that you say? You would still get your *censored* handed to you giftwrapped with a bow on a plate? But gosh! How is that if they have no skills?

Fact is PKers are damn good players and to tell them they are unskilled is just gonna get you dead. They don't just sit in the abyss' killing all day long. They go and farm dungeon bosses.... solo.... Can an unskilled player do that?

What we have here is another case of someone thinking that they can cry and moan because they are getting killed in a place designated for PvP. And don't give me the "abyss is for grinding" speech. Here's how it breaks down.

3 map types.
1=PvE (normal maps and dungeons)
2=PvP (free battle zones)
3=PvP+E (abyss)

99% of MMORPGs have entire servers dedicated to each type where as we are lucky enough to have all 3 types on each server.
If you dont want to PvP stay on the PvE maps. If you don't want to PvE then go to FBZ. If you want to do both then go to the abyss. It's not a difficult concept.

What winds me up the most is when players say PvP should be stopped in the abyss or KP's should be taken away so people can go and grind in the abyss without the fear of being PKed. WHY? PKers are not asking that exp is lowered on PvE maps or drops are taken away so that people who want to level and make money are forced to go to the abyss.

Oh and up until about 4 months ago I wasn't a PKer. But the amount of threads popping up like this one got me so wound up that I decided to make a PK char who now sits happily in the 2X and kills anyone I feel like killing. And to be completely honest I really hope that my killing people gets everyone I kill to come to the forums and flood the PvP section with "I got PK'd and I can't handle it" threads so that OS get so narked with it that they close these threads on sight. So yeah. Keep making these threads guys and keep complaining. It wont stop you getting owned so hard that your alt dies too but it just might eventually catch22 on yous and force yous to stop complaining.

This has my favorite part of a story; an ending.

[KungFuHobo]

actually yes unskilled people can solo dungeon bosses with a little thing called charms, so yeah no all PKers are skilled, some of 'em are what we call charmers who can kill anyone and anything, believe me charms can make a squishy lvl 34 mage able to solo ZK in grave yard of the dead

I'd like to point out... That people who don't pk use charms to, and probably more often.


This has my favorite part of a story; an ending.

My favorite part of the story is the message.
Because then I get to have an intelligent conversation about the story. :)

[da_greatist19]

Can't we all just be friends lol?

[accention]

No sense getting to overly mad at the pker because when the new boss shows up guess who's gonna tank it...

Still doesnt like gettin pk'd tho

[Myn19]

How hard is it to make pvp have a point and lower lvls of the abyss to xo-x9 make pking 1% loss and pkers get that %.
And is making charms and sc items except pots and extenders really that hard to make null in pvp?
It would make +ed stuff and ig godlies so much more wanted,+ing also takes more sc than charming so what's the deal really?

[da_greatist19]

People don't understand tho. Theirs positives and negatives to everything that is done in life...lets say abyss reverts back to its original state. What happens then? Ooo pkers have a hard time getting KP and then eventually Pking is none existent, YEA!! Outspark saves the day. Thing is, the old lvl limits would mess people up when they try to plvl in abyss, people wouldn't hangout in abyss anymore to socialize or whatever because some of their friends wouldnt be able to enter, Outspark loses a huge amount of money from charms suits and extenders...that's a huge loss of big spending clients right out the door..u have no idea how many PKers are perma charmed (I don't think I have to name them).

I agree with u that people should put more emphasis on gears b4 Sc, but what can I say for new people it's difficult to come by in game currency if your just starting out. Godly gears aren't sold everyday either, u may have the money but will have to wait for each individual piece. Besides the top PKers from my server all had outstanding gears, Aria had 40 dex kick plus 9...and Crum had a lvl 50 blue axe plus 9..so I can tell u that some of them have outstanding gears, and off coarse heavy SC is apart of it.

[Myn19]

People don't understand tho. Theirs positives and negatives to everything that is done in life...lets say abyss reverts back to its original state. What happens then? Ooo pkers have a hard time getting KP and then eventually Pking is none existent, YEA!! Outspark saves the day. Thing is, the old lvl limits would mess people up when they try to plvl in abyss, people wouldn't hangout in abyss anymore to socialize or whatever because some of their friends wouldnt be able to enter, Outspark loses a huge amount of money from charms suits and extenders...that's a huge loss of big spending clients right out the door..u have no idea how many PKers are perma charmed (I don't think I have to name them).

I agree with u that people should put more emphasis on gears b4 Sc, but what can I say for new people it's difficult to come by in game currency if your just starting out. Godly gears aren't sold everyday either, u may have the money but will have to wait for each individual piece. Besides the top PKers from my server all had outstanding gears, Aria had 40 dex kick plus 9...and Crum had a lvl 50 blue axe plus 9..so I can tell u that some of them have outstanding gears, and off coarse heavy SC is apart of it.

Not exactly regarding the first part,making an actual exp transfer between players makes pvp some sort of grinding =P
And you do rmember what I suggested to stop people on 0% from doing it.
This newfound reward is also the reason I wanted lvl limits lowered.
Hmmm, oh, and being a good treasure hunter, lucky or a veteran is wrong?
Btw, why is it that when people complain about pkers you say that's abyss for you.
If a bunch of people at max level wanna gather at the entrance and kill everyone entering (and be friends because they know each other is the only person able to kill them) they can.
But if they're made to stay in an abyss slightly higher level,and no not getting pwned by their type of people in turn it's really nasty, it cuts off their freedom, lolol.
(gonna check back later)

[da_greatist19]

Not exactly regarding the first part,making an actual exp transfer between players makes pvp some sort of grinding =P
And you do rmember what I suggested to stop people on 0% from doing it.
This newfound reward is also the reason I wanted lvl limits lowered.
Hmmm, oh, and being a good treasure hunter, lucky or a veteran is wrong?

Pkers don't grind tho? lol....I get what u mean tho...

[c8itlyn]

actually yes unskilled people can solo dungeon bosses with a little thing called charms, so yeah no all PKers are skilled, some of 'em are what we call charmers who can kill anyone and anything, believe me charms can make a squishy lvl 34 mage able to solo ZK in grave yard of the dead

This kind of shows the ignorance of non PKers with regards to the accepted decorum within the PKer community. Charms are in general frowned upon in the abyss. None of the people I PK with charm, none of them need to. It's considered a waste and those that do charm are the ones who generally end up getting called a nub. Also farming dungeon bosses doesn't need charms when you know what you are doing i.e skilled. I can farm 4 ZK's every 10 mins solo without charms or any SC items or even pots on either of my 36 fighters. Does that sound unskilled to you? But because I PK. I automatically get branded as someone who is unskilled or a charmer. Let me tell you this... If a charmed Lv34 mage came into the 2x and started throwing lights around they are gonna find a much bigger challenge than ZK against the uncharmed PKers.

The fact is PKers are some of the best players on Fiesta at both PvP and PvE and the only people who disagree seem to be the people who have been PK'd and make a thread about it on the forums. They think that they can justify the anger and resentment they felt towards the person that killed them by rallying up other people to complain along with them. The thing is that for every person that dislikes PKers there is always one who is a PKer. And I have seen countless time these very same people who cry about it on the forums come into the abyss and attack PKers for a hit or two before warping right out again. That seems like the unskilled thing to me. In fact it's petty and annoying because they also complain that they want to grind in the abyss because it's the easiest place to level yet they waste hours at a time just annoying PKers which is going to make them a permanant target. If they just accepted that they were killed in a PvP area and moved on to questing or grinding then they would find life on Fiesta a lot more enjoyable.

But again, keep making these threads guys.

[da_greatist19]

But if they're made to stay in an abyss slightly higher level,and no not getting pwned by their type of people in turn it's really nasty, it cuts off their freedom, lolol.
(gonna check back later)

I don't exactly get what u mean. All I know is I don't get attacked in any abyss I go to. I'm no longer a PKer...I realized what I did was stupid..and it got kinda boring when the people couldn't fight back. Also one of my closest friends and I aren't friends so it just brings back weird memories for me. People ask me why I keep Nita 46. I have a few reasons, although shes gotten pretty strong recently with her nicer gears and such, I still think she can get way stronger. I wanna see just how strong a 46 can get, call it my little experiment whatever. I do honeying runs with guildies and friends sometimes and I help apprentices and some acad lvl if their my friends.

From what I gather in abyss, serious PKers don't attack other serious PKers...it's like a "rule". I agree that PKing is pointless, it does get u noticed, but the way some get their points is just so wrong. I won't say the guys name but one of the top 3 in Bijou cheated bigtime lol and I SAW HIM!! He would sit in abyss for hours with volunteers ready to get PKed...their was like 7 of them continuously re-spawning for hours and hours. I'm completely against PKers now, I understand that sometimes some strong people enter abyss and it's fun to play with them sometimes when I'm on Nita :p but other than a fair PvP or talking to some old friends or Plvling someone u wont catch me in the abyss anymore..

[WindCaster]

My favorite part of the story is the message.
Because then I get to have an intelligent conversation about the story. :)
Intelligent conversation? Here? Nah, I doubt it. This section of the forum is pretty desolate when it comes to intelligent conversations. The majority of the "conversations" around here are people bickering about being PK'd, and then the people trying to justify their bullying tendencies of PKing.


This kind of shows the ignorance of non PKers with regards to the accepted decorum within the PKer community. Charms are in general frowned upon in the abyss. None of the people I PK with charm, none of them need to. It's considered a waste and those that do charm are the ones who generally end up getting called a nub. Also farming dungeon bosses doesn't need charms when you know what you are doing i.e skilled. I can farm 4 ZK's every 10 mins solo without charms or any SC items or even pots on either of my 36 fighters. Does that sound unskilled to you? But because I PK. I automatically get branded as someone who is unskilled or a charmer. Let me tell you this... If a charmed Lv34 mage came into the 2x and started throwing lights around they are gonna find a much bigger challenge than ZK against the uncharmed PKers.

The fact is PKers are some of the best players on Fiesta at both PvP and PvE and the only people who disagree seem to be the people who have been PK'd and make a thread about it on the forums. They think that they can justify the anger and resentment they felt towards the person that killed them by rallying up other people to complain along with them. The thing is that for every person that dislikes PKers there is always one who is a PKer. And I have seen countless time these very same people who cry about it on the forums come into the abyss and attack PKers for a hit or two before warping right out again. That seems like the unskilled thing to me. In fact it's petty and annoying because they also complain that they want to grind in the abyss because it's the easiest place to level yet they waste hours at a time just annoying PKers which is going to make them a permanant target. If they just accepted that they were killed in a PvP area and moved on to questing or grinding then they would find life on Fiesta a lot more enjoyable.

But again, keep making these threads guys.

Now you made me curious. What do you mean by "skill"? I think you're confusing skill with common sense... then again, it's kinda hard to tell these days. :|

[DANk1]

i pk cause the abyss is for pvp lol not cause im an evil thing that wants to kill
why else would i go there?
although i dont spend my time on fiesta pking or even feel like going there id rather hit glad and kick back make golds =D

[da_greatist19]

i pk cause the abyss is for pvp lol not cause im an evil thing that wants to kill
why else would i go there?
although i dont spend my time on fiesta pking or even feel like going there id rather hit glad and kick back make golds =D

abyss is cool tho lol so many awesome glitches :o

That war thats going on like right now is weird...way too many glitches taking place..score glitched numerous times and so much more..and u guys all appeared in abyss :/

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy155/Da_greatist19/glitches2.jpg


Edit: someone was messing with something wonders who...looks down at siggy taken 5 minutes ago o.o

[kronostheman]

"I just pked you therefore I'm skilled"
That's stupid this game doesn't take skill, it's all about gear, and lucky criticals. It sounds more like you assume people think they think they're skilled because you get owned all the time.

[KungFuHobo]

They stated earlier that they did ask people if they thought that they had skill.
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j145/Jvchequer/unsuccessfultroll.jpg

[Dthugtherealist]

The only prob I got with the abyss is people who abuse others nothing less some people do it for no reason what so ever I call em Robots. But this is all from what I experienced I only been killed 40 times in abyss but I've Pkk'ed and been jumped I fought people who they called strong with like 5k+ KP's allways sitting in 7x abyss and what not. I whipped em all, and on Bijou the Pk'ers are way rougher and do anything to win spam kill you whatever. I only got 401 KP's and Im lvl 100 almost 101 but I killed so many skilled players in fbz I can't even count it High lvl PvP is all skill low lvl PvP is allways tweaking your gears if you have the best gears you dominate go figure o.o

[THr3eS01di3Rs]

I complement their armor and weapons, then they leave me alone =p

[da_greatist19]

I complement their armor and weapons, then they leave me alone =p

Might sound weird, but this actually works.

[Tamlinari]

I don't PK other players.
I think it is stupid and really immature.
Only sick minded people like to hurt other players and harass them for no reason.
They have deep psychological issues of being bullied in school or regarded as a loser by the opposite sex and they act out their frustrations on anonymous people in the game as a form of payback.
That is their fantasy world that they control with a keyboard, that is the only social life that they have where they can impress anonymous people and attempt to convince them that they are worthy of respect.
That is the reality of the situation.
You see my sig? Well that is how I feel about those kind of people.

[WindCaster]

I complement their armor and weapons, then they leave me alone =p

Haha. Yeah, I do that sometimes too. :P 'Cept if it's someone I really don't like, I'll just kill them or annoy them to no end if I can't kill them.

[KungFuHobo]

I don't PK other players.
I think it is stupid and really immature.
Only sick minded people like to hurt other players and harass them for no reason.
They have deep psychological issues of being bullied in school or regarded as a loser by the opposite sex and they act out their frustrations on anonymous people in the game as a form of payback.
That is their fantasy world that they control with a keyboard, that is the only social life that they have where they can impress anonymous people and attempt to convince them that they are worthy of respect.
That is the reality of the situation.
You see my sig? Well that is how I feel about those kind of people.

The same can be said about anybody who attempts to do good in any area of the game.


I don't grind to 100.
I think it is stupid and really immature.
Only sick minded people like to hurt Helga/Karen and harass them for no reason.
They have deep psychological issues of being bullied in school or regarded as a loser by the opposite sex and they act out their frustrations on monsters in the game as a form of payback.
That is their fantasy world that they control with a keyboard, that is the only social life that they have where they can impress anonymous people and attempt to convince them that they are worthy of respect.
That is the reality of the situation.
You see my sig? Well that is how I feel about those kind of people.

Or anyone who uses the forums


I don't insultother players [Either ingame or on the forums].
I think it is stupid and really immature.
Only sick minded people like to hurt other players and harass them for no reason.
They have deep psychological issues of being bullied in school or regarded as a loser by the opposite sex and they act out their frustrations on anonymous people in the game [and/or the forums] as a form of payback.
That is their fantasy world that they control with a keyboard, that is the only social life that they have where they can impress anonymous people and attempt to convince them that they are worthy of respect.
That is the reality of the situation.
You see my sig? Well that is how I feel about those kind of people.

and if you take it a step further you could say the same thing about people irl.
but I don't feel like flipping around changing words again. v.v

[Ex.plode]

The same can be said about anybody who attempts to do good in any area of the game.



Or anyone who uses the forums



and if you take it a step further you could say the same thing about people irl.
but I don't feel like flipping around changing words again. v.v

Plus nine-million rep.

This post is just... to ftw to say why it's ftw.

@ Talminari (Miss-spelt but to lazy to scroll up :c)
Some people like pk'ing some dont, no need to call other people mentally unstable/retarded for PK'ing


Also:
Last time I checked, I am infact mentally stable, and I dont go around killing little puppies.

[Tamlinari]

Plus nine-million rep.

This post is just... to ftw to say why it's ftw.

@ Talminari (Miss-spelt but to lazy to scroll up :c)
Some people like pk'ing some dont, no need to call other people mentally unstable/retarded for PK'ing


Also:
Last time I checked, I am infact mentally stable, and I dont go around killing little puppies.

Yeah, sorry about being so opinionated about being PKed but I have been harassed so much in the abyss for such a long time that I just get really tired of it.
The FBZ in another matter as that is a battle zone where no exp is lost but to be killed over and over again in the abyss by people who are out leveled the abyss by 15 levels and are only there for the soul purpose of harassing other players is very tedious.
I have at times before been held hostage there for long periods of time by hooligans who would not let me leave and continued to kill me over and over and over again for the sake of gaining kill points.
And all the time they laugh and berate you and let their hooligan friends take shots at you too.
It's like being virtually raped and Outspark could care less.
I don't blame the hooligans so much for acting on their degenerate nature, I blame Outspark for allowing it.
I have had some really horror experiences in the abyss since they allowed all of that to go on there.
I apologize for being so harsh in my previous condemnation.

[c8itlyn]

I don't PK other players.
I think it is stupid and really immature.
Only sick minded people like to hurt other players and harass them for no reason.
They have deep psychological issues of being bullied in school or regarded as a loser by the opposite sex and they act out their frustrations on anonymous people in the game as a form of payback.
That is their fantasy world that they control with a keyboard, that is the only social life that they have where they can impress anonymous people and attempt to convince them that they are worthy of respect.
That is the reality of the situation.
You see my sig? Well that is how I feel about those kind of people.

I am in a solid, happy loving relationship with 2 children and had an enjoyable time without being promiscuous with the opposite sex in my teen years before I met my partner and can assure you I have no such frustrations.
I was popular at school as well as intelligent and went onto further education at college where I spent the most amazing 5 years, met many people and earned 3 national diplomas. I have no deep psychological issues.
My fantasy involves living carefree on a super-yacht in Monaco harbour and tbh I really couldn't care less if there is a keyboard within a million miles of the sundeck I would be relaxing on, sipping chilled mojitos.
I couldn't care less about impressing anonymous or gaining their respect. It's not my fault if these people are too closed minded to get to know me and want to prejudge me because of one aspect of my life that they happen to come into contact with.
The reality of the situation, in this case, is that your analogy is flawed and biased.
You see your sig? That is small minded and opinionated.


I have at times before been held hostage there for long periods of time by hooligans who would not let me leave and continued to kill me over and over and over again for the sake of gaining kill points.

Unless you have the reaction times of a drunk snail or your CPU is actually a small rodent in a wheel, you have ample time to leave an abyss after being PKed due to the idle state.

[zommari]

'skill in fiesta' sorry seems alien to me.