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Hydr0
11-24-2007, 06:05 AM
Hey,

I just want to know something about the clerics build types.

Pepole recommend to do 25 SPR Points and rest in end right?
so why u do it? for the more SP? if it is for more sp it's useless cuz if u got 200 more sp then regular cleric u both will still use the same amount of stones. but he will use it 2 seconds before u. so what the points? Level 45 cleric will have 1200 sp and sp build will have 1400.. it won't help him lol he still will use stones as much as regular cleric.

If u do it for the Crit Hit.. it's stupid cuz spr end build supose to be party cleric so why u need Crit? u supose to stand in side and heal.

so i think the best build is End Str 2:1 .
I got same hp like party Cleric. but i can solo.
the crit hit is only 5 more %.. so in the end str build will win cuz he attack more in each hit.

and full end? waste of cleric points. why u need so much hp and defence? ur not going to tank anyway, and if u do, u won't be good tanker.

so tell me if i'm wrong or not.

Jacquin
11-24-2007, 06:48 AM
25 Str gives you 30 damage (25* 1.2)
25 Spr gives you 5% crit (25*.2%) along with SP and magic defense.
Meanwhile, a crit doubles your damage.

So going SPR means you'd rather have a chance at doing double damage than 30 extra attack.

Besides, the anti-crit argument falls flat because it's the same argument that can be used against STR.

"If u do STR for the damage.. it's stupid cuz str end build supose to be party cleric so why u need damage? u supose to stand in side and heal."

SPR/END has the same goal as STR/END: ability to do some damage while being able to take a blow. STR does it by regular strikes while SPR focuses on crits. Personally, I prefer my Crit and actually starting to wonder if I need as much End as I do (currently 1:1 spr/end, at least until I get my 25 SPR). Of course, it all depends on whether the STR from bonus points is affected by monster def or not.

So there you go: why some clerics go Spr/End.

Hydr0
11-24-2007, 07:18 AM
Ye but it's 30 Extra dmg on each hit. so if u crit every 10 hits?
i will do in those hits more dmg then u will do with the 1 crit.

and if i crit i do ALot more dmg then spr..

Tela007
11-24-2007, 08:13 AM
Ye but it's 30 Extra dmg on each hit. so if u crit every 10 hits?
i will do in those hits more dmg then u will do with the 1 crit.

and if i crit i do ALot more dmg then spr..
SPR has many more benefits other than just more spirit.


You don't use as many stones. (Stone usefulness is based on your base spirit/hit point pool. With 20 spirit, my stones heal ~850-900 spirit. Yours heal less)
Your magic defense is increased. I can tank an elf knight soul if I absolutely have to. A STR cleric will possibly die in 1 hit.
You get some extra damage via criticals. (Yes, it is less than a STR build)


Simply put, STR is a solo build. SPR is a party build + slower solo capabilities.

At 45 now, I'm 30END and 20SPR. Probably going to 39END by 54, then from 55-59 I'll finish SPR off at 25.

Hydr0
11-24-2007, 09:03 AM
I can just change my build now.
i can put 25 sp points till i'm level 60 then rest end.. and i'll have 16 points on str
it will be good ?

amonty
11-24-2007, 09:37 AM
My opinion is not that much spr, but more end and then on 40+ str, bcos this way u would like so much solo orcs, ull get rich and lvl pretty fast.

amonty
11-24-2007, 09:46 AM
You don't use as many stones. (Stone usefulness is based on your base spirit/hit point pool. With 20 spirit, my stones heal ~850-900 spirit. Yours heal less)

When I´m on a party allways fighters/mages need ro restone sooner :)

Hydr0
11-24-2007, 10:44 AM
Who care who restone first? in the end we both will spend the same money on the restone.
Anyway mayb i'll put 20 STR and then 25 SP and rest END.

I think it will be the best

20 STR
25 SPR
REST END
what u think?
till i finish this i will be high level :D

Mareg
11-25-2007, 12:27 AM
I think different people prefer different build, some who like to support, spr build would be nice, for some who prefer to be defender, end build suit for them, for people who like to solo, kill fast, then str build. Each build got pro and con i would say, as nothing is perfect.

I'm playing full end build, kinda addict to my cleric as i'm able to solo and tank if i dint find any party, although i eat alot stones and slow killing, but at least i kill mara by my own when i trying to finish my quest (couldn't find any party) =x

Jacquin
11-25-2007, 01:40 AM
Blah, I still argue that SPR is NOT the 'healer' stat but for the 'crit cleric'. I'm starting to pull aggro off of warriors thanks to my crit-happy attacks (especially when my bash crits.. I WISH my warrior could pull those numbers :P).

If I get bored of any of the classes (perhaps my mage: Not really sure why I made her) I'll go ahead and make a STR based cleric to see how they differ from SPR ones (it'll give me an excuse to farm more SBLs and pick up a new batch of vit scrolls.. hmm).