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coles1
06-01-2010, 04:47 PM
Hey there everyone.

I'm sure most of you from Bijou know me; and if not, hi nice to meet you.

Anyways, I've been thinking a lot lately. When I return to Fiesta after my break of a couple months, I plan on getting HP records for levels 89, 95, and 99. As usual I will take the time to find the best gear I can and try my hardest. I might even plan it out so I hit 99 around Christmas for the HP buff. But that's not really what I wanted to talk about.

I always thought I would go gladiator for the cool armor, nice skills, and most importantly the HP boost. But lately I've been questioning why I want to give up my favorite thing in the game - tanking - for a small ambition. Sure right now the difference isn't that big, the only use for knghts are for tanking Helga and Karen and stuff. But later on the upgrades of mock and the defensive skills will really come into play. Hopefully OS fixes some stuff with the knights to not make them fail in comparison to gladiators.

My point is that I think I will be going knight. I've already achieved what people thought was impossible, getting over 10,000 HP at the 6x range. But I aim to be the unkillable and the indestructable, not just that guy who has some red stuff to spare.

I wanted some feedback from people I know and trust.. like if knight would really be a useful class. Is tanking now for knights only or can gladiators do it too? I know it's a bit early for me to talk about which class I'm going but I want to be sure when I get there :cool:

Any feedback is appreciated, and no I don't want to post in Fighter section cause I want to hear from people I know.

emilylalala
06-01-2010, 05:12 PM
._. Well, a 103 warlock was tanking in LN if that tells you anything.

Either can tank, but it depends what you want to tank.. if you're aiming for Helga, go Knight. =o
But by the time you hit 100, you'll probably know what kind of new skills are being added with the cap raise so don't make up your mind quite yet.

gunstartx
06-01-2010, 05:19 PM
._. Well, a 103 warlock was tanking in LN if that tells you anything.




<---- That was me.

xP.

And go knight. Knights are osm.

skylark18
06-01-2010, 06:06 PM
uhm....yeah i'd say just wait and see, right now both classes can tank easily as good as the other (except with glad obviously your missing some tanking skills)

Sharlyne
06-01-2010, 06:11 PM
Go knight is great glads sucks :I they only good pvp and deal damage

emilylalala
06-01-2010, 07:26 PM
<---- That was me.

xP.

Lmao. Wow, stalker.
But yeah, good job. 8D

killerallv
06-01-2010, 09:23 PM
yay tank well i personally thinks fiesta 100 job change are wierd... like for mage warlock means like summoner, so they should get summon skeleton but they don't check Wow or aion, but for fiesta warlock are pvp.. which confuse me and wizard which means like dmg dealing are pve class. and fighter're even more wierd. cause knight are like the tanking class but i don't get why they don't get more hp at 10x they get more sp, but glad are dmg dealing pvp class they get more hp... well tank i think you should go for glad since ur a hp lover, and i beat glad can tank later on just not as good as knights come back to fiesta XD let's duo 90-100.

coles1
06-01-2010, 10:49 PM
Thanks people for your opinions so far :) it's helping to enforce my ideas.

And dark, I feel that later in the game (like the cap raise), gladiators won't really be able to tank anything. If I'm complaining about mock for my level being underpowered (in DT mainly lol) I really don't think gladiators can hold that kind of aggro from wizards/warlocks. Which makes me think that knights and wizards, probably warlocks too even with the loss of some AoEs, will be the only classes who can hold aggro on multiple mobs.

Basically I'm saying gladiators will only be able to tank single mobs or bosses excluding helga/karen. That's my whole reasoning behind leaning towards knight, I just hope OS gives knights a bit more to work with so I can make a proper choice.

(and sure I'll level with you, school gets out for me in 3 weeks)

DANk1
06-01-2010, 11:59 PM
tbh...
and i hate to say it but
i hope glads arent able to tank shiz at the higher lvls
at least not compare to knights

and tank my advice to you
dont get a headache thinking about it..most likely the cap will be raised by christmas time and until then..dont worry about it wait it out keep doing what u do and focus on lvling

Sharlyne
06-02-2010, 12:05 AM
Thanks people for your opinions so far :) it's helping to enforce my ideas.

And dark, I feel that later in the game (like the cap raise), gladiators won't really be able to tank anything. If I'm complaining about mock for my level being underpowered (in DT mainly lol) I really don't think gladiators can hold that kind of aggro from wizards/warlocks. Which makes me think that knights and wizards, probably warlocks too even with the loss of some AoEs, will be the only classes who can hold aggro on multiple mobs.

Basically I'm saying gladiators will only be able to tank single mobs or bosses excluding helga/karen. That's my whole reasoning behind leaning towards knight, I just hope OS gives knights a bit more to work with so I can make a proper choice.

(and sure I'll level with you, school gets out for me in 3 weeks)


My fighter is a knight and i really really love it at first i tot was gonna suck but was actually fun, you just gotta learn to use the skills QQ lol but is pretty fun and glads are paper in my opinion but if you love pve more go knight is really fun.

darknyss2
06-02-2010, 01:40 AM
I believe glads are mainly for dealing damage... if you really like tanking, go for knight ^^

Dthugtherealist
06-02-2010, 02:22 AM
Well its just my personal opinion on this since Im a Glad but.......I noticed Demo hit upgrades after you hit 100 even if your a Glad you can still Tank through Dmg dealing and and Demo hitting. You can tank Helga with a axe still Karen well is out of the picture for that lol. If your gonna be a solo person I say Glad is the way to go if your gonna be a pt. person I say Knight is the way to go. It's all about your style and how you do it 9x can teach you alot about your self. No matter if I was a pt. person or a solo person I was going Glad anyways xD

emilylalala
06-02-2010, 03:37 AM
Well its just my personal opinion on this since Im a Glad but.......I noticed Demo hit upgrades after you hit 100 even if your a Glad you can still Tank through Dmg dealing and and Demo hitting. You can tank Helga with a axe still Karen well is out of the picture for that lol. If your gonna be a solo person I say Glad is the way to go if your gonna be a pt. person I say Knight is the way to go. It's all about your style and how you do it 9x can teach you alot about your self. No matter if I was a pt. person or a solo person I was going Glad anyways xD

o.o; Glads aren't really used for tanking Helga.. just little runners. Run in and kill kill kill, get debuffed and scamper away. x)

Dthugtherealist
06-02-2010, 03:53 AM
o.o; Glads aren't really used for tanking Helga.. just little runners. Run in and kill kill kill, get debuffed and scamper away. x)

Yea course you have to rotate your tanks anyway Glads can still Tank Helga I doubt a Knight can hold agro offa Glad who starts main dmg dealing. But this is just my opinion =) My goal is to tank everything with a axe I think if I hype out my stats its possible :)

Orchids_Mantis
06-02-2010, 05:11 AM
my personal opinion is to level to 99, achieve your goal, then sitr back and watch for a bit, see which class you like more as more content is added. It could be that knights get shafted for anything but instance bosses and dungeon raids, or it could be the evening split we're hoping for. No need to choose now.

Just my 2 cents.

coles1
06-02-2010, 06:44 AM
Thanks again for your input everyone =] It's nice to hear some support.

I'm always open to suggestions and opinions, so feel free if you still want to comment. But I guess for now (well after school is over :p) I'll be focusing on levelling and my goals and just wait to choose.

And Akarii I will look to you for info about knights after cap raise =P well unless you decide to level your cleric D:

killerallv
06-02-2010, 07:40 AM
Thanks people for your opinions so far :) it's helping to enforce my ideas.

And dark, I feel that later in the game (like the cap raise), gladiators won't really be able to tank anything. If I'm complaining about mock for my level being underpowered (in DT mainly lol) I really don't think gladiators can hold that kind of aggro from wizards/warlocks. Which makes me think that knights and wizards, probably warlocks too even with the loss of some AoEs, will be the only classes who can hold aggro on multiple mobs.

Basically I'm saying gladiators will only be able to tank single mobs or bosses excluding helga/karen. That's my whole reasoning behind leaning towards knight, I just hope OS gives knights a bit more to work with so I can make a proper choice.

(and sure I'll level with you, school gets out for me in 3 weeks)

k bro my school get out this week :3 my mage's 76 i will be 90 in 2 weeks 100% lol

Sharlyne
06-02-2010, 08:05 AM
Yea course you have to rotate your tanks anyway Glads can still Tank Helga I doubt a Knight can hold agro offa Glad who starts main dmg dealing. But this is just my opinion =) My goal is to tank everything with a axe I think if I hype out my stats its possible :)

If a tank knows how to tank you can hold agro D: might be a fight of agros lol

skynet2508
06-02-2010, 08:12 AM
hmm interesting thread o.o -watches for more opinions- going for knight for sure though >>

homie2
06-02-2010, 08:54 AM
Also rememer knights are glitched, if OOS ever decides to fix them then go knight but i think u should look at this thread before choosing, it might just might change ur mind.
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250169

coles1
06-02-2010, 09:17 AM
Also rememer knights are glitched, if OOS ever decides to fix them then go knight but i think u should look at this thread before choosing, it might just might change ur mind.
http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250169

Hmmm yeah that is messed up =\ knights don't get a dex or spr increase, minimal end increase and only 10 hp. And the skill empowers are messed up D:

Well I hope they fix stuff instead of just ignoring it.. That way I can actually compare knight to gladiator n_n..

homie2
06-02-2010, 12:34 PM
I doubt there ever going to fix the knight bugs.
I think in the future Gladiator hp is gonna be double Knight hp if knights ever get fixed

Dthugtherealist
06-02-2010, 07:09 PM
If a tank knows how to tank you can hold agro D: might be a fight of agros lol

Yea true I just see the job change for fighters as no different than comparing a 99- S/S fighter to 99 Axe Tanker except with more skills and slight stat upgrades if the trend continues Axe fighters will still be able to Tank elite mobs it will just be a bit Harder. I'm mostly a solo person anyways so either way if I can't handle a certain mob type as a mob if they have good exp I'll just use the titans/rhinoce technique =)

DANk1
06-03-2010, 12:24 AM
lmao mini if ur right
ill feel sorry for the knight class

thats why i hope next cap u cant tank shiz w/o a knight

homie2
06-03-2010, 02:09 PM
lmao mini if ur right
ill feel sorry for the knight class

thats why i hope next cap u cant tank shiz w/o a knight

lets hope im wrong like usual :rolleyes:

mirazo
06-03-2010, 02:21 PM
lol
10 char

emilylalala
06-03-2010, 02:37 PM
lol
10 char

o.o if i had a nickel for every time you've posted that... i'd be a very rich lady.

DANk1
06-03-2010, 05:01 PM
o.o if i had a nickel for every time you've posted that... i'd be a very rich lady.

emily im not even gonna lie ur pretty hot
and raz **** you <3

emilylalala
06-03-2010, 05:14 PM
emily im not even gonna lie ur pretty hot
and raz **** you <3

o_o erm.. thanks?
That was random. e.o


QQ but it's true about Raz. half his post count came from "lol 10char"ing D:< unfair!

Fayt237
06-03-2010, 08:38 PM
emily im not even gonna lie ur pretty hot

Dank gtfo, emily's my woman D:<

coles1
06-03-2010, 08:51 PM
(//_.) ..