Dex Mage?

[ra77man]

Hi everyone,

I'm a mage gone fighter gone mage again :D

I played a mage till 9x, then played a fighter till 8x, then a fighter till 10x and now since I missed being a mage so badly, I'm playing my second mage who's currently at 4x.

My first mage was the standard 25 spr, rest int build - like 85% of other mages in fiesta. I loved the build, it served me well and I would do it again except...

On my second fighter (now a gladiator with a 25 spr, 50 dex, rest str build) I learnt the importance of being a dexy bish and how importantly it factors in not only in pve but in pvp too.

So riddle me this - on my second mage should I try a dex/int/spr build? i.e. (50 dex, 25 spr, rest int) or should I stick with the conventional build. I know that fighter 95 blues give more evasion than mage 95 blues do - but I also know that mage natural evasion increase per level is higher than that of fighters.

Opinions and experiences please :)

[Dthugtherealist]

I think instead of 25spr 50dex rest int I think you should just do 50dex rest int. If you become a Dex hoe mage gear wise at 95 and get a godly Dex HG wand You might even consider taking out the Dex at 100 but anyways whatever is best for you Im sure you'll figure it out :D

[spheris]

25 spr, rest int ftw \o/

and I know from experience dex on gear is enough, you dont need it in your build

[i_ha8]

and I know from experience dex on gear is enough, you dont need it in your build

kinda agree with this
dex in build will still help
but high dex in gears&weps&accessories are enough ;)

im a fighter with end/dex/spr gears, not extended
and there is only one 8x mage i couldnt kill (i forgot the name)
and he has like 49% crit
he still misses me but his crit is deadly (especially crit in nova&inferno no miss)
so i say u go for crit :cool:

[jjhubby]

50 dex the rest end is the way i would go as long as you are wearing +9/+10 weps for the damage.

[TheCompanions]

Im 50dex rest Int build, giving me 1,2k natural eva and 1,7k aim with hg staff. :)
dex is really nice in pve. 3/5 hits from a pouch or bb miss on me

[Dthugtherealist]

Guys look in this dudes siggy I think he knows wats cracking he has a Glad and a 9x mage he's just asking wats cracking and what you think is best don't tell him stuff he already has or knows lol.

[Yoruko]

I'm really not a fan of dex free stat at all. Specially when you look at the archer tests on dex. Around 50% of their damage isn't affected by stats and despite that dex was still just slightly worse than str. Not to mention archers are the best class to take advantage of dex. Now imagine you're a mage where 100% of your damage is affected by stats.

Beyond that dead mobs do no damage. We always see oh I have x free dex, and y evasion, and i dodge all these attacks, yeah great, but compared to what. To me nothing has that def ignoring property of int/str(for their respective classes), and it's so much easier to get def and evasion than attack. Gear tends to be the bigger factor in performance than free stats so in that regard fiesta is pretty forgiving, but to me free dex just feels like such a waste compared to int.

[aperturelaboratories]

From what I have seen, a little free stat DEX (33/35) goes a surprisingly long way when paired with godly DEX gear. In light of this, my new mage is going to be 35 DEX, rest INT, with a crit suit to make up for the lack of free stat SPR. Things are going well so far.

[imeel]

Aiming bish is a nice one, i have it =]

[ra77man]

I think instead of 25spr 50dex rest int I think you should just do 50dex rest int. If you become a Dex hoe mage gear wise at 95 and get a godly Dex HG wand You might even consider taking out the Dex at 100 but anyways whatever is best for you Im sure you'll figure it out :D

Bro, I'm a crit hoe as much as I'm a dex hoe. Ain't no way I'm giving up the 25 spr (or 30 more dmg) in build. I didn't give that up for my fighter's build either and people think I'm crit glitched on him :D


25 spr, rest int ftw \o/

and I know from experience dex on gear is enough, you dont need it in your build

How much evasion and aim are we talking exactly?


50 dex the rest end is the way i would go as long as you are wearing +9/+10 weps for the damage.

Man all the end mages I knew got tired and changed their builds. I think end in free stats is useful for fighter and even more so on mages.



Im 50dex rest Int build, giving me 1,2k natural eva and 1,7k aim with hg staff. :)
dex is really nice in pve. 3/5 hits from a pouch or bb miss on me

Yeah. That's kinda what I'm talking about. My fighter's evasion ranges between 1.3k and 1.4k depending on his gear config (tank or dd config) and that's exactly the kinda evasion I'd like to achieve on mage too.


I'm really not a fan of dex free stat at all. Specially when you look at the archer tests on dex. Around 50% of their damage isn't affected by stats and despite that dex was still just slightly worse than str. Not to mention archers are the best class to take advantage of dex. Now imagine you're a mage where 100% of your damage is affected by stats.

Beyond that dead mobs do no damage. We always see oh I have x free dex, and y evasion, and i dodge all these attacks, yeah great, but compared to what. To me nothing has that def ignoring property of int/str(for their respective classes), and it's so much easier to get def and evasion than attack. Gear tends to be the bigger factor in performance than free stats so in that regard fiesta is pretty forgiving, but to me free dex just feels like such a waste compared to int.

You see, forgoing 50 int for 50 dex is basically forgoing 60 more dmg per hit for 50 dex. Now at 9x, when people are hitting each other in the 800 - 1k ranges; 60 dmg doesn't really make such a difference in my book.


From what I have seen, a little free stat DEX (33/35) goes a surprisingly long way when paired with godly DEX gear. In light of this, my new mage is going to be 35 DEX, rest INT, with a crit suit to make up for the lack of free stat SPR. Things are going well so far.

Good to know - I wonder why you only went till the aim cap (i.e. 33 dex) and not the evasion cap (i.e. 50 dex) on your mage.


Aiming bish is a nice one, i have it =]

Hi Wilhelmina - I hope Teva's going well :)

Yeah - aiming bish would be my second choice if I didn't decide to go 50 dex for evasion.

[Yoruko]

You see, forgoing 50 int for 50 dex is basically forgoing 60 more dmg per hit for 50 dex. Now at 9x, when people are hitting each other in the 800 - 1k ranges; 60 dmg doesn't really make such a difference in my book.


I won't really argue there, it's mainly why I say people put way more importance on free stats than they're actually worth. Sure the 50 dex might make you dodge a hit that saves your life, but then the additive of the 60 damage per hit will kill something faster and then not even get the opportunity to hit you those extra times. I just feel gear is the more important factor, but dex is very effective on gear while int is somewhat less so, which makes me a fan of dex on gear but int for free stats.

[ra77man]

More opinions pl0x :)

[Ex.plode]

I've heard Nova/Inferno can miss now, so DEX is a definate plus if that is still possible

But, I didnt like having alot of DEX on my other mage, it seemed that my damage was to low :<

Maybe try 25spr 33 dex rest int.

Since 33 dex = Aim boost. (You also sacrifice less points for int :p)

[dustyj]

33 dex rest spr xD






- Tauro

[calibur1015]

50 dex 25 spr rest int. 9xx aim 8xx def and 8xx eva. and i crt atleast once every time i attack a monster. no sc gear. for me it works. being a hybrid im pretty balanced in stat wise. if the dmg isnt so well for people who chose this type of build. +10/+9 gear and weapon is all the way ;) even if the price and finding good gear is hard.

[accention]

Gotta say Dex in mages is great especially when you run into those other dex stackers and you hit them and they QQ

[ale.wilkins]

Gotta say Dex in mages is great especially when you run into those other dex stackers and you hit them and they QQ

i lol'd. im 3o dex 25 spr rest int as well. it helps a lot, and mages will usually miss a few times on fighters that have godly dex on their gears, as well as have any dex in their build as well. wand or staff it doesnt matter.

[marth280]

How much aim does 33 dex add anyways in build? o.o