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minxamo
11-27-2007, 09:37 AM
help! i cant logon cos everytime i put my e-mail and pass in, that dumb message comes up!! please can the fiesta people sort out this problem because i have re-installed it and re-downloaded it totally and the problem is still there!! if it helps heres my pc specs:

Operating System Processor:windows xp home edition (5.1 build 2600) in English
Memory:256 MB RAM ( the system reqs say 512 minimum, could this be why it wont work?)
Page File:323mb used, 678mb available
DirectX version: 9.0c
Display Device Name:doesnt say, dunno =S
Approx. Total Memory:dunno, but alot i think i said around 85gb when i downloaded fiesta
Display Device Driver Version:5.01.2600.0000
Sound Device Name:my pc cant find one =S
Sound Device Driver Version:same problem

TheCretz
11-27-2007, 10:44 AM
The ?! Error is an error with the game client. This issue can be resolved by uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it. Please follow these steps.

1. Go to control panel.
2. Open Add/Remove Programs.
3. Uninstall the Fiesta Game Client.
4. Clean out recycle bin.
5. Restart your PC.
6. Go to Outspark.com and reinstall the program.
7. Let the launcher patch the game client.

This should resolve your issues. If you have any further issues. Please contact our CS dept from the Help link located in the upper right hand corner of Outspark.com.

Thank you,

CSR_Cretz

Sheizou_Marizou
11-27-2007, 10:45 AM
What an honor to post where my lord has left a trail <3
Good luck with what he said^

fantamorango
11-27-2007, 01:05 PM
The ?! Error is an error with the game client. This issue can be resolved by uninstalling the program, and reinstalling it. Please follow these steps.

1. Go to control panel.
2. Open Add/Remove Programs.
3. Uninstall the Fiesta Game Client.
4. Clean out recycle bin.
5. Restart your PC.
6. Go to Outspark.com and reinstall the program.
7. Let the launcher patch the game client.

This should resolve your issues. If you have any further issues. Please contact our CS dept from the Help link located in the upper right hand corner of Outspark.com.

Thank you,

CSR_Cretz

i did that and didnt work :(

Gargoth
11-27-2007, 02:13 PM
The same thing is happening to me, and I have re-downloaded/installed it too.

Trebori
11-27-2007, 02:22 PM
help! i cant logon cos everytime i put my e-mail and pass in, that dumb message comes up!! please can the fiesta people sort out this problem because i have re-installed it and re-downloaded it totally and the problem is still there!! if it helps heres my pc specs:

Memory:256 MB RAM ( the system reqs say 512 minimum, could this be why it wont work?)

Display Device Driver Version:5.01.2600.0000



1.) Your memory is to low. 512 is minimum and even that really isn't near enough.

2.) I typed in your display device driver version in google and a whole page of stuff popped up about people having problems in other games. I do believe your video card simplay doesn't meet requirements either. :(

minxamo
11-29-2007, 11:41 AM
i dont think this game's ever gonna work :(
i have re downloaded it and all but still the same problem so i give up! :(:(:(

TheCretz
11-29-2007, 12:34 PM
I apologize for the frustration this has caused. We have received reports of this happening and are currently investigating the matter. We are expected to resolve this issue in the near future. In order to best resolve your issue, we would appreciate it if you could provide us with the following:

1) Your complete computer specifications including your Operating System, Video Card, RAM, and CPU
2) Your Internet Connection speed
3) A screenshot if possible of the error message
4) Your Outspark.exe log file attached to the email

By default, this file is located at

C:\Program Files\Outspark\Launcher\outspark.exe

If you for some reason are unable to obtain any of these details, just provide us with partial information if you can. Your information will help us locate the problem and solve the issue faster. Please email these details to support@outspark.com and we can then provide this crucial information to our developers to accelerate our progress towards an eventual resolution.

Thank you for your patience and understanding in the matter.

CSR_Cretz

gluestickz
11-29-2007, 07:00 PM
Alright, i have the same problem, ive re-installed three times now, i am starting to get annoyed...

direangel
11-29-2007, 11:09 PM
i am annoyed with this game too. launcher doesnt work.. patch doesnt work... reinstalling doesn't work... maybe its not worth the trouble. probably should go look at another online game out there.

Tking223
11-30-2007, 10:58 PM
for me I think its video.
It did that to a friend of mine and I fixed by updating DirectX.
The guy who started this thread has a S3 Trio32/64, going by the Driver.
That video card was never a good card, only 2MB of ram, more then likely can't use OpenGL 1.2 maybe not even OpenGL 1.0. So I think the Problem lies in the Video card or Video drivers, DirectX.
And I was able to get this game running with only 128 mem + Video Shared memory

danarules
12-02-2007, 10:16 AM
i am havin real trouble just loggin in.
The load button doesnt work and im gettin really pissd off, ive only been playin for a month and the game has mucked up. ive tried sendin a message to the CSR and i havent had a reply in a week. Im startin to think that this isnt all it's cracked up to be.
When I was playin i thought it was a good game.

karu61210
12-02-2007, 12:50 PM
man be patience if u cant i want you to go make a game right now as you read this... and try to not have problem for the first couple of weeks now wait as u can see people are asking about it to so wait for an a new topic or guide on how to fix it if u not clear go look at my top (PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOG-IN PROBLEM;)

'.;';.'SOLVED'.;';.'

xx_fire_fly_xx
12-02-2007, 01:14 PM
Same Thing Happend To Me But The Lil Box Has Upsidedown !? And Then I Click Ok And It Say !?2 All Upsidedown....

TheRealVanquish
12-03-2007, 11:45 AM
Hey guys,

I am try to get more information on this issue. Do you have any screen shoots of this error when it occurs on screen? Please attach them or send them into the help desk. This will help out a lot in getting this issue solved for good.

Thanks again for all of your support.

shadowedcloud
12-03-2007, 11:57 AM
would uninstalling emptying out trash bin and reinstalling game from outspark.com delete my account ???

because before i do it i just wanna make sure.
I ask because im having problems logging in. i bring up launcher and type in e-mail and password then i click log in, everything is going fine... i click Teva my server and click enter.ok still going all fine, i click on my high cleric and click enter seems like its gong fine it says LOADING...Roumen, then it just goes right back to fiesta launcher.
someone please help

:confused:

Trebori
12-03-2007, 12:21 PM
would uninstalling emptying out trash bin and reinstalling game from outspark.com delete my account ???

:confused:


No, it will not delete your account. The info is saved on the server side( Outparks side) and you reinstalling will have no effect on your account.

shadowedcloud
12-03-2007, 12:39 PM
ok thank god!!! ill try uninstalling and reinstalling now ...
:p

TheCretz
12-03-2007, 04:54 PM
I apologize for the frustration this has caused. We have received reports of this happening and are currently investigating the matter. We are expected to resolve this issue in the near future. In order to best resolve your issue, we would appreciate it if you could provide us with the following:

1) Your complete computer specifications including your Operating System, Video Card, RAM, and CPU
2) Your Internet Connection speed
3) A screenshot if possible of the error message
4) Your Outspark.exe log file attached to the email

By default, this file is located at

C:\Program Files\Outspark\Launcher\outspark.exe

If you for some reason are unable to obtain any of these details, just provide us with partial information if you can. Your information will help us locate the problem and solve the issue faster. Please email these details to support@outspark.com and we can then provide this crucial information to our developers to accelerate our progress towards an eventual resolution.

Thank you for your patience and understanding in the matter.

CSR_Cretz

Drillion
12-03-2007, 06:29 PM
found out the problem yet?

megamanntwarrior1
12-21-2007, 11:27 AM
i was able to resolve it it on my computer by making sure the video driver was installed.i saw it was not installed so i installed it try to log on again and it worked!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek::D:)

megamanntwarrior1
12-21-2007, 11:30 AM
help! i cant logon cos everytime i put my e-mail and pass in, that dumb message comes up!! please can the fiesta people sort out this problem because i have re-installed it and re-downloaded it totally and the problem is still there!! if it helps heres my pc specs:

Operating System Processor:windows xp home edition (5.1 build 2600) in English
Memory:256 MB RAM ( the system reqs say 512 minimum, could this be why it wont work?)
Page File:323mb used, 678mb available
DirectX version: 9.0c
Display Device Name:doesnt say, dunno =S
Approx. Total Memory:dunno, but alot i think i said around 85gb when i downloaded fiesta
Display Device Driver Version:5.01.2600.0000
Sound Device Name:my pc cant find one =S
Sound Device Driver Version:same problem
make sure your video driver is installed.thats how i got my error fixed by installing the video driver.then i waas ble to log in!!!!!!!!

spawnofsalteen
12-21-2007, 07:02 PM
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ok well im not sure how to get a screen shot but thats what the symbols are exactly. also, with any of you does your screen get all pixelated and old looking when you try to play? when I enter username and pass then my screen zooms way in and my color resolution goes all wierd.

hakuaki
12-21-2007, 07:33 PM
I've just played this game 2 hours ago and now I can't log in :|
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m316/Hakuaki/untitled-2.jpg

dragondude95
12-21-2007, 07:41 PM
dam nothing is working it wont work dam!!!!!!! every friday this happens to me @&$$()!@%%&^%($%^&#

spawnofsalteen
12-21-2007, 08:19 PM
i was wonderin if a Gm or some person could tell me approximately when this problem is going to be fixed cause it's really bugging me. ty

Trebori
12-21-2007, 08:26 PM
i was wonderin if a Gm or some person could tell me approximately when this problem is going to be fixed cause it's really bugging me. ty


If you read the entire thread you will notice that they are not sure exactly what is causing it. Once they figure it out I am sure they will let everyone know. :)

Giving them the information they are asking for will help it get resolved faster. :)

harfia
12-21-2007, 09:58 PM
im having the smae problem:

I downloaded feista but everytime i try to login it doesn't work!! :(

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I downloaded feista but everytime i try to login through the outspark launcher thingy a litle window opens with an upside down question mark, an upside down exclamation mark and an upside down underscore sign...like this...?!_...only upside down and then the only option i have is to click ok and then again it opens saying ?!_(upside down)2(right side up) so its ?!_2 and then i say ok again and the outspark feista login window closes and opens again and when i try to log in again the same thing happens!!what do i do? i downloaded the game again but it still doesnt work!

harfia
12-21-2007, 09:59 PM
how do i install a video driver? how do i find out i even have a video driver!

harfia
12-21-2007, 10:02 PM
how do u get a screen shot of the error? im so cinfused :(

Trebori
12-21-2007, 10:05 PM
how do i install a video driver? how do i find out i even have a video driver!


Go to "Start" ( lower left of desktop) then click "Run", then type in dxdiag.

The first page will tell you your OS/CPU/Ram/Page file/DirectX version ( need the number listed)

Click the "Display" tab. upper left is your video card and upper right is your driver ( need the driver version number)

Does that help?

harfia
12-21-2007, 10:07 PM
yes it does :D thank you!

Trebori
12-21-2007, 10:09 PM
how do u get a screen shot of the error? im so cinfused :(

If windows XP then the "Print Screen" button should do it.

harfia
12-21-2007, 10:09 PM
wheres the print screen button?

Vahstania
12-21-2007, 10:12 PM
Well...I was having the same issue.. I reinstalled it and etc... Then I decided hm, why don't I restart my computer... now it works. Should try it.

harfia
12-21-2007, 10:14 PM
My system info is:

Operating system: Microsift Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600)
System Manufacturer: Compaq
Sytem model: DSDT
BIOS: 686P2 v2.11
Processor: Intel Pentium III, 1.0Ghz
Memory: 256MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

harfia
12-21-2007, 10:18 PM
hmmm....i'll try restasrting the computer and see if it works :(

Trebori
12-21-2007, 10:19 PM
My system info is:

Operating system: Microsift Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600)
System Manufacturer: Compaq
Sytem model: DSDT
BIOS: 686P2 v2.11
Processor: Intel Pentium III, 1.0Ghz
Memory: 256MB RAM
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)

I can allready see your problems. You simply don't meet the game requirements.

To small of a CPU and not enough Ram for starters. :(

You can check the game requirements here:

http://www.outspark.com/fiesta/download_requirements

harfia
12-21-2007, 10:24 PM
this sucks :( all that downloading for nothing!

grimjaw017
12-23-2007, 12:00 AM
Go to "Start" ( lower left of desktop) then click "Run", then type in dxdiag.

The first page will tell you your OS/CPU/Ram/Page file/DirectX version ( need the number listed)

Click the "Display" tab. upper left is your video card and upper right is your driver ( need the driver version number)

Does that help?

i saw it my problem is that my video card is not installed yet how can i install it??... do the driver's installer be given to you when u bought the pc?... if it is.. i dont know how to find mine...^^ thanks for your help trebori...

Zyrianna
12-24-2007, 12:36 AM
I got the (?i._) and (?i._2) too, even after re-installing the game on my laptop. I think I might be missing my video card like grimjaw017 too, but I'll restart my laptop first and see if it helps. =/

spawnofsalteen
12-25-2007, 10:13 PM
hah i thought it was hopeless. i dont know if it was because i restarted my computer or something but Instead of using the download from this site and used the other sites and I found one that worked for me. just because the download is going slower then the others doesnt mean its corrupted or something, for me it made it better! oh yes and wait fully until the patch is on cause if u dont then your screwed.

cdnflirt
12-30-2007, 04:13 PM
I'm another one who is frustrated with this. After waiting 2 hours with cable internet for this game to download, and everything be ready to log in. It continues to display the same error message. My cousin told me that an old mac computer was capable of running this game, one that basically only hold space invaders, so he told me mine should be able to work. However it's not working and it's really frustrating. Would it help if I threw it all on jump drive and played it off a jump drive?

hamtaro877
12-31-2007, 04:42 PM
Hope this works!

obilerator
01-01-2008, 05:11 PM
I am currently having the same problem. But the only difference is, I didn't have this weird problem before. I could run and play Fiesta, but I couldn't ever since the Fiesta game abruptly crashed once when I was walking around in Roumen... Any solutions?

Sporkx6
01-02-2008, 01:23 AM
I am currently having the same problem. But the only difference is, I didn't have this weird problem before. I could run and play Fiesta, but I couldn't ever since the Fiesta game abruptly crashed once when I was walking around in Roumen... Any solutions?

I have basically the same issue as you, except my game didn't crash. I just logged out one day, and now I can't play anymore. I started a separate thread as no solution had been found yet. http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34401

Still no solution as far as I know.

obilerator
01-02-2008, 07:36 AM
new improvement on my error: after reinstalling the cilent, the ?!-_ errors disappear.

HOWEVER, i still cant play fiesta. A window called FiestaOnline pops out, as usual, but it just stops there. when i go to the task manager, it says the game is not responding...

help pls

Terranwolf
01-02-2008, 09:44 AM
if it helps heres my pc specs:

Operating System Processor:windows xp home edition (5.1 build 2600) in English
Memory:256 MB RAM( the system reqs say 512 minimum, could this be why it wont work?)
Page File:323mb used, 678mb available
DirectX version: 9.0c
Display Device Name:doesnt say, dunno =S
Approx. Total Memory:dunno, but alot i think i said around 85gb when i downloaded fiesta
Display Device Driver Version:5.01.2600.0000
Sound Device Name:my pc cant find one =S
Sound Device Driver Version:same problem

You need to meet the minimum requirements to stop the error I believe.
There may be many errors that happen that display that same message.

Sporkx6
01-02-2008, 10:55 AM
new improvement on my error: after reinstalling the cilent, the ?!-_ errors disappear.

HOWEVER, i still cant play fiesta. A window called FiestaOnline pops out, as usual, but it just stops there. when i go to the task manager, it says the game is not responding...

help pls


I have narrowed it down to the way the client(executable) is calling the binary file, because if you call the binary file from an executable without any parameters, it will give the same errors. This could mean a few different things, but I won't go too deep into theory.

Basically how these games work (MMORPGs) is they have an executable, like outspark.exe, which is quick to launch, easy for them to change, etc. Then it loads up a large binary file (which is just like an exectuable, but must be called in a certain way) into the memory in order to start the game. We get stuck right at this loading process, the error message is actually given from the fiesta.bin file, but as I said before, it's a problem with the way outspark.exe launches fiesta.bin. If I had a working one I could compare how it's being launched. No such luck though.

~Spork

Terranwolf
01-02-2008, 11:09 AM
I have narrowed it down to the way the client(executable) is calling the binary file, because if you call the binary file from an executable without any parameters, it will give the same errors. This could mean a few different things, but I won't go too deep into theory.

Basically how these games work (MMORPGs) is they have an executable, like outspark.exe, which is quick to launch, easy for them to change, etc. Then it loads up a large binary file (which is just like an exectuable, but must be called in a certain way) into the memory in order to start the game. We get stuck right at this loading process, the error message is actually given from the fiesta.bin file, but as I said before, it's a problem with the way outspark.exe launches fiesta.bin. If I had a working one I could compare how it's being launched. No such luck though.

~Spork

Which is why I think you're running out of memory when you try to play.

Sporkx6
01-02-2008, 11:13 AM
I have 4GB of memory and Fiesta.bin is a good 3.5MB maybe 4MB, it loads about 90MB into RAM when the game is running... Meaning I have about ~4000MB not being used by the game.

Which is why I know I'm not running out of memory.

Also, Memory is not the same as free space on the Hard Drive, I have 640GB free space as well.

obilerator
01-02-2008, 03:37 PM
a big question is, why isnt the bin file corrected through the uninstallation and reinstallation of the cilent?

xcelosce
01-02-2008, 03:56 PM
I have narrowed it down to the way the client(executable) is calling the binary file, because if you call the binary file from an executable without any parameters, it will give the same errors. This could mean a few different things, but I won't go too deep into theory.

Basically how these games work (MMORPGs) is they have an executable, like outspark.exe, which is quick to launch, easy for them to change, etc. Then it loads up a large binary file (which is just like an exectuable, but must be called in a certain way) into the memory in order to start the game. We get stuck right at this loading process, the error message is actually given from the fiesta.bin file, but as I said before, it's a problem with the way outspark.exe launches fiesta.bin. If I had a working one I could compare how it's being launched. No such luck though.

~Spork

Good news: i managed to upload the BIN file from a WORKING fiesta cilent.

Here it is:

http://www.mediafire.com/?baej0lj1gmt

Sporkx6
01-02-2008, 08:30 PM
Good news: i managed to upload the BIN file from a WORKING fiesta cilent.

Here it is:

http://www.mediafire.com/?baej0lj1gmt

The binary is exactly the same as mine (as I would hope) the problem is somewhere in the "Launcher" folder, I imagine if you copy the whole launcher folder from a working PC to a broken one, it would fix it.

Thanks for the help =]

obilerator
01-03-2008, 04:56 AM
i hope so too... if it is possible, i'll go upload the folder too so that u guys can download it.

Btw, i'm xcelosceq (my bros account wasnt logged off the desktop =P)

Sporkx6
01-03-2008, 02:16 PM
Haha, I'm trying the same thing (copying it from bro's computer) I have to wait for him to wake up though. =/

Hopefully this works. Unfortunately it could also be a registry entry or some sort of file placed in the system folder that doesn't get overwritten during re-installation.

The two weird things are
1) As obilerator said before, Why doesn't re-install fix it? If the client ran on my PC before, it still should after a full re-install. Right? (So we don't know where the problem resides)
2) Why did it stop running all of the sudden, I don't think there was an update, for mine I logged out, restarted the computer, tried to log back in. Then nothing, it just stopped working.

~Spork

obilerator
01-03-2008, 11:20 PM
aaa.just managed to copy the folder over to my laptop. doesn't work...

obilerator
01-04-2008, 05:30 AM
Bump~~~

some one please help

TheCretz
01-04-2008, 11:00 AM
This is a known issue and unfortunately we are still trying to determine a solid means of resolution. In the meantime, some users have reported fixing the issue by updating their video card drivers.

For all video card/graphics adapter drivers, please refer to our drivers page located at:

Outspark Drivers Page (http://www.outspark.com/fiesta/drivers)

NOTE: All listed graphics card drivers are automatically supplied with the latest OpenGL. There is no need to seek OpenGL 1.2 anywhere else.

CSR_Cretz

obilerator
01-04-2008, 04:52 PM
This is a known issue and unfortunately we are still trying to determine a solid means of resolution. In the meantime, some users have reported fixing the issue by updating their video card drivers.

For all video card/graphics adapter drivers, please refer to our drivers page located at:

Outspark Drivers Page (http://www.outspark.com/sos/downloads/drivers)

NOTE: All listed graphics card drivers are automatically supplied with the latest OpenGL. There is no need to seek OpenGL 1.2 anywhere else.
CSR_Cretz

Thanks for trying to help. It means a lot to me that a person of higher authorty is trying to help out.

However, I've tried to visit the link that you pointed out. All it shows is a blank secret of the solstice page. But I will try to update my graphics card drivers.

Thanks again

TheCretz
01-04-2008, 06:19 PM
I do apologize, there were some recent updates made to some of our web pages and the link was outdated. It should now work properly. Or if you prefer, you can just click here. (http://www.outspark.com/fiesta/drivers) :D

Good luck!

CSR_Cretz

Fenrir23
01-05-2008, 02:07 AM
I still have the problem....

G3rdyB0y461
01-05-2008, 09:35 AM
I've done that soo many times and it's still with that message
¿¡.-
¿¡.-2

obilerator
01-06-2008, 05:06 AM
Erm, CSR_Cretz, i still have that problem even after updating the driver. Hope you guys find a fully working solution soon.

obilerator
01-08-2008, 12:53 AM
Bump~~~ anyone with any new solutions?

I want to get to play again soon...

obilerator
01-09-2008, 04:22 AM
Took the last resort and did a system restore. Now the game works fine =D

marmum
01-26-2009, 03:23 AM
mine is not working I installed all the stuff needed but it is saying I need somthing 2 load this but I do not know what it is I could send what it is giving me

jasedarkblood
01-26-2009, 02:03 PM
This as been happening alot. This game is the only one with these meny problems..I dont think theyll ever be fixed. Cause happened to me 2 times. First I got playing now Ive quit...Till they fix it.

Or you can spend all your time on this game...restarting..rebooting, redownloading, installing new stuff. All this for a game which might not ever be fixed..

pokemon1996
01-26-2009, 02:23 PM
OMG help i cant fix the same thing! The ?!_ and ?!_2 upsidedown! Plz iam new at this game!

arcigal1234
10-07-2009, 05:07 PM
every time i logged in fiesta it always says your not in our service area i waited 4hours to download this game geez

CSR_Circe
10-07-2009, 05:26 PM
Thread closed to avoid necro-posting