All mage questions answered :o!

[ale.wilkins]

well ive been bored lately, so i want to see if theres anything i can do as a mage to help young mages perform at peak in the fiesta world. if you have any mage questions, then go ahead and ask me and ill answer to the best of my ability. let the games begin :O!

earlier today, someone asked me if i had an MSN messenger to use.

i made an email address that i will check once a day for offline messages and ill respond to it the soonest that i can, if im not answering your question in a timely manner here. please dont spam it lol >.>;

ale.wilkins@hotmail.com

:3

[tankprince]

Hey Symphonic! What's your take on the future PVE ability of warlock? I really enjoy PVP, but i don't want to lose out on grinding ability. Some warlocks and wizards have being telling me that since wand do more dmg than staff, warlock's lack of aoe upgrade wouldn't be a big real.

[coheedis1337]

If I go black will I ever want to go back?

[a_boar45]

Should I max out my damage on Powerhit or save my skill points to max out cooldown on Devastate?

[shadiator]

First forum post evar!!!!!! ok my question for you symphonic358 is how do you dodge a tomahawk?

[fantinee]

First forum post evar!!!!!!

Liar! I think...

Anyway, symphonic I've been adding str to my build since the beginning so that my auto-attack hits harder. Any reason I'm so weak?

[ale.wilkins]

Hey Symphonic! What's your take on the future PVE ability of warlock? I really enjoy PVP, but i don't want to lose out on grinding ability. Some warlocks and wizards have being telling me that since wand do more dmg than staff, warlock's lack of aoe upgrade wouldn't be a big real.

what you heard is true, however most answers about that will be determined after tuesdays cap expansion :3 to me, since mages are usually charmed when they grind anyway, it wont matter much what level the aoe's are. to be honest, the aoe damage doesnt increase by much with the newer skills that you get if you choose wizard, but again, we wont know if nova and inferno upgrade any further until after tuesday. all in all, warlocks will be able to solo as well as party grind just as well as wizards.


If I go black will I ever want to go back?

no.


Should I max out my damage on Powerhit or save my skill points to max out cooldown on Devastate?

death ur a nub lol


First forum post evar!!!!!! ok my question for you symphonic358 is how do you dodge a tomahawk?

blink-stifle-ice field-fear-thats how you dodge a tomahawk.

[imeel]

Hai wilkings guy~ i have always liked ur answers, it shows u really know the game and specially mages. My favorite stats are END>SPR>DEX in that order, END for grind/pvp, SPR for mage pvp and DEX for aim to pvp gladiators/knights/archers (not really for evasion, since our eva got nerfed after 95 gears).
My question is, what do u think about INT? imnt really an INT fan in gears, i feel that the added m dmg is very low, and compared with the advantages of END/DEX/SPR i find it less useful, or do u think it really makes a noticeable diference?

[stefanni]

Should I max out my damage on Powerhit or save my skill points to max out cooldown on Devastate?

Deathnub </3

Here's a question Symphy, how do a mage with +0s solo grind w/o charms and SC in lvl9x ? And tell me, what skills (in order please if you can ) do you use to kill a cleric ?

[UzumakiW]

Symph, who would win in a fight, you or Chuck Norris?

And if you answer yes, do you think you could take on Bruce Lee?

[doi2in]

Question to all mages...where should I put the bird skill on my skill bar for my warlock?

[ale.wilkins]

Liar! I think...

Anyway, symphonic I've been adding str to my build since the beginning so that my auto-attack hits harder. Any reason I'm so weak?

NO. mages ''str'' is basically the ''int'' DONT ADD STRENGTH AS A MAGE ZOMG. do int not strength cause you will not ever need to staffwack anything to death.


Hai wilkings guy~ i have always liked ur answers, it shows u really know the game and specially mages. My favorite stats are END>SPR>DEX in that order, END for grind/pvp, SPR for mage pvp and DEX for aim to pvp gladiators/knights/archers (not really for evasion, since our eva got nerfed after 95 gears).
My question is, what do u think about INT? imnt really an INT fan in gears, i feel that the added m dmg is very low, and compared with the advantages of END/DEX/SPR i find it less useful, or do u think it really makes a noticeable diference?

finding int in gear is useless because it doesnt add much to the actual damage. burst damage is calculated from what your magic damage is minus the monster or persons magic defense, then randomized in those numbers. adding godly int in all of your, say 95 gears, would only add around 40ish damage id say.(per hit) so end dex spr is more rewarding. in short, INT in gear is basically useless, especially since people usually cover up their bad mdmg with damage suits anyways :P

[ale.wilkins]

Symph, who would win in a fight, you or Chuck Norris?

And if you answer yes, do you think you could take on Bruce Lee?

we already fought, and it was a tie. if bruce lee can play ping pong with nunchucks, then id rather not even try to kite him. he'd just throw the nunchucks at me and 1 shot me.


Question to all mages...where should I put the bird skill on my skill bar for my warlock?

anywhere you can hit it the fastest, becuase its a 1oo percent chance of evasion, rather than counterattacking.

oh yeah, and dont troll this thread. please. i want it to stay open so that i can answer anyone and everyones questions.

[coheedis1337]

Yeah Dorin seriously stop trolling this thread, trying to have intelligent conversations here`

[TheREALArcherEric]

If I make a max SPR mage will it crit 100% of the time at the level cap?

[LongshotFoxx]

If I make a max SPR mage will it crit 100% of the time at the level cap?

Umm... No. SPR only adds .2% of crit each level. After 25 SPR is added, only .1% Then it's .05% after 50 SPR has been added. Check the wiki, I think it only adds around 9.5% in the end. Not very worthwhile for you skill points. Though it will be a high crit with a wand. Something to consider, but, very few mages agree with an all SPR. If Dex didn't add percentages, I might go that route. Doubt it though...

Try adding 25 SPR, rest DEX. This will give good evasion and crit, the best build, IMO. Builds are very disputed among many for mages. At level 60, add another 10 SPR for another 1% crit if you dont use sc items.

Hope it helps. Sorry for butting in, just wanted to help =P

[ale.wilkins]

Umm... No. SPR only adds .2% of crit each level. After 25 SPR is added, only .1% Then it's .05% after 50 SPR has been added. Check the wiki, I think it only adds around 9.5% in the end. Not very worthwhile for you skill points. Though it will be a high crit with a wand. Something to consider, but, very few mages agree with an all SPR. If Dex didn't add percentages, I might go that route. Doubt it though...

Try adding 25 SPR, rest DEX. This will give good evasion and crit, the best build, IMO. Builds are very disputed among many for mages. At level 60, add another 10 SPR for another 1% crit if you dont use sc items.

Hope it helps. Sorry for butting in, just wanted to help =P

that answer is good enough for me :3 couldnt have said it better.

[stefanni]

Don't ignore my post D:< And yes, my questions were serious u.u I have a mage too as you already know D:

[imeel]

lvl 105 wizard vs warlock we already have tested it, lvl 110 wizard vs lvl 100 warlock... do u think there will be more advantage for the warlock over the wizard?

[ale.wilkins]

Don't ignore my post D:< And yes, my questions were serious u.u I have a mage too as you already know D:

stef you didnt even ask me a question >.>;


lvl 105 wizard vs warlock we already have tested it, lvl 110 wizard vs lvl 100 warlock... do u think there will be more advantage for the warlock over the wizard?

i looked at the skills, the fireball was liike what the fu-BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM. but there is still a magic blast that is upgradable for both classes, so pvp wont change much, and theres also not another version of stifle or sleep that lasts longer(zomg lol) so i think that things will remain the same until n e w skills are released, imo.

[mastergamer-12]

question is it true that mages weapons have less enhance succes rate than others o.o? and also wat is good m dmg lol ?

[LongshotFoxx]

question is it true that mages weapons have less enhance succes rate than others o.o? and also wat is good m dmg lol ?

Hmm, that's an interesting rumor. Might explain me breaking two lv 40 wands right in a row at +1. O_o
No idea as to whether that's true, though.

Either that, or I have extremely bad luck at enhancing. =P

[stefanni]

stef you didnt even ask me a question >.>;.

Yes, I did. I triple checked just to be sure D:< Post number 9. If they're not too insignificant for you to answer ;-;


Here's a question Symphy, how do a mage with +0s solo grind w/o charms and SC in lvl9x ? And tell me, what skills (in order please if you can ) do you use to kill a cleric ?

[ale.wilkins]

Deathnub </3

Here's a question Symphy, how do a mage with +0s solo grind w/o charms and SC in lvl9x ? And tell me, what skills (in order please if you can ) do you use to kill a cleric ?

well, im guessing ur asking because i never had any sc when i was grinding and leveled so slowly in the 9x's. basically, the only way i was able to do it was settling for less. the old SOD had the garg field that i could solo pull with my mover. (and everyone got mad cuase i was always hogging it lol)

once gargs became less exp than i cared for, i moved on to pulling rhinoce lords on my mover and aoeing so that they never caught me. if i did it like this, then i never had to have charms because they'd all die before they got to me.(unless i lagged, i always hoped i didnt due to no teva >.< ) then i moved on to BMM's but all of those mobs got taken away, so its harder for mages to solo nowadays.


question is it true that mages weapons have less enhance succes rate than others o.o? and also wat is good m dmg lol ?

that, i dont know about lol. from what ive heard all weps have the same failure rate and such but others are determined that if you do some kind of crazy logging out then back in thing that stuff resets and it makes enhancing easier or something. i think its a load of garbage but hey, proove me wrong someone :P

as for the mdmg, for what lvl? and wat weapon? is it 9'd or 1o'd? it all depends on your build and gear and such. why dont ya tell me what lvl you are and ur build and weapon and we can go from there.

[Zamacka]

Hey symph!

Im bored of my fighty x.x grinding boring, other boring things, boring about being bored of my boring fighter...

I digress...

Lets treat this like a hypothetical situation.

IF rolance was to make a aoe/pve mage rolance would consider making a lvl 70. (It looks fun to be the beast mage in spider KQ that hits uber dmg :O) So IF rolance made his lvl 70 mage he would have 34 points for empowering.
I got a little Idea about empowering certain things, nova inferno etc.
I was think 25spr rest int, I considered dex but for a mostly pve mage I don't imagine it being very important (maybe?)
Oh and armor I was thinking a shaman set (it empowers nova right) and its got sweet looks
Would wand be my best choice?
I'll prolly add some more stuff, but if you could tell me your thoughts on this rolance would smile :D

[ale.wilkins]

Hey symph!

Im bored of my fighty x.x grinding boring, other boring things, boring about being bored of my boring fighter...

I digress...

Lets treat this like a hypothetical situation.

IF rolance was to make a aoe/pve mage rolance would consider making a lvl 70. (It looks fun to be the beast mage in spider KQ that hits uber dmg :O) So IF rolance made his lvl 70 mage he would have 34 points for empowering.
I got a little Idea about empowering certain things, nova inferno etc.
I was think 25spr rest int, I considered dex but for a mostly pve mage I don't imagine it being very important (maybe?)
Oh and armor I was thinking a shaman set (it empowers nova right) and its got sweet looks
Would wand be my best choice?
I'll prolly add some more stuff, but if you could tell me your thoughts on this rolance would smile :D

yo rolance. if you were to make a mage for pve and not pvp, then id just go with being int/spr to be completely honest, because you wont need to rely on dex and such in pve. dex is a pvping stat for free stats. there is a lot of discussions saying that dex is a pve stat, but if you were to find it in your gears then at that level its not asssssssssss important. again, we are talking if you were to almost never pvp.

now as for the shaman set issue, the only thing for mages that actually helps aoeing would be DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN....charms. even having a sull set of 65 blues isnt worth as much as the 55 blues(sun set lol) and since the 65's are from CC and are still statless, you dont get as much benefits from it as you would the 55's.

for blues, most people usually go with 35's, 55's, 75's, then 95's. this is why these sets of blues are always the most expensive, especially if they have amazing stats on them. in conclusion, id say that its best for you to be pure int/spr.(if you decided to level the mage farther past 7o's then you could work other stats into your build as well.

for skill points at that level, if you have 34, then id max the cd on nova(5), max cd on inferno(5), max cd power on magic blast(1o), cd chaincast(5) and then save the rest if you were exactly lvl 70. the other points you dont really need to use on fear and stifle and such if you dont pvp. if we were talking prestige here, then it would be wise to just save them until later on.

this post got longer than i thought it would lol but let me know if i left anything out. happy hunting, rolance.

[Devilboy83]

When it comes to SC, which items are more beneficial to mages, DMG, Crit, DEF, or a combination of either two?

[ale.wilkins]

When it comes to SC, which items are more beneficial to mages, DMG, Crit, DEF, or a combination of either two?

*eye twitch* you just hit a nerve. when it comes to mages using no sc would be the best. but if you just h a v e to cancel out someone elses def suits with it then id say that stacking crit suits is the best.

in pvp, crit suits are best, but in pve, id say damage suits, cause lets face it, monsters arent that hard to kill. you could do either or to be honest.

i really like using damage suits, but the fact of the matter is, no matter how much i want to deny it, having burst damage is better than guaranteed damage most of the time, if you burst enough.

being 1o5, if you had the 12% swim suit with the angel set on( another 13% crit) thats 25% just in SC. one in four hits.

now lets talk about the crit you get from gears.
2% from 95 earrings,
5% from a weapon skin if you have one.
(HG staff so it doesnt apply to all, but 7 + 5 from my liscence would make it 12%)
6% from blue 95 boots.
3% from face mask/glasses
if you had spr in your build then thats another 5% if its only 25 points.

adding that all together would make your grand total critical hit ratio a whopping 58%.

thats just........ asinine. if you had that much crit, you could be a pure dex mage (if you had the aim in your gear, you could even pull off being pure spr xDDD ) and still kill anything just with the bursts of damage you have. why you would need that much is beyond me, but hey, it gets the job done.

def suits are only really good for mages that are pve oriented, unless they are fully jewelry 9'd mages that just cant be killed because you dont have enough damage to melt through a def suit backpack wearing mage.

[coheedis1337]

From a strictly pvp standpoint what would you recommend empowering? I plan on switching up all of my empowerments at 100 and going for a more pvp way. Also im going warlock so im assuming that changes things. Also even using a staff I seem to miss alot when im nuking should i change my build to 33 dex rest int?

[akita-inu]

how do i make an aoe mage, for grinding like in the abyss. what skills should i get/max? please help me im new and what should i use, staff or wand?

[ale.wilkins]

From a strictly pvp standpoint what would you recommend empowering? I plan on switching up all of my empowerments at 100 and going for a more pvp way. Also im going warlock so im assuming that changes things. Also even using a staff I seem to miss alot when im nuking should i change my build to 33 dex rest int?

good questtion. from my pvp standpoint, if you are going to be a warlock and you can reskill all of your points later, id (personally) still not empower fireball until the new skills are released and you can see for sure what you want to put your skills as so that you dont have to buy more sc later on to reskill again. magic blast being immediate cast and still being able to get upgraded by both classes of mages is more than enough to take out any fighter especially if you switch to a sun set in pvp. my build as a 1o5 wizard is cd nova, cd inferno, cd chaincast, cd power on magic blast, cd dura on fear, cd stifle, cd blink, cd ice field, and i saved the last two points for later. (you have 52 skill points when ur 1o5.)

as a warlock, things are different becuse you have another skill that you have to put 1o points into otherwise its nearly worthless. the sleep skill. the bird skill doesnt need to be empowered because you can stay birded until its cooled down again, meaning it overlaps so you have nothing to worry about.

most mages that are pure int HAVE TO HAVE GODLY DEX IN EVERY PIECE OF THEIR GEAR or you WILL miss when you pvp. its as simple as that. if you want to compensate for that if you are using a wand(though the aim difference isnt by much) then put 33 dex into your build. atm i have 3o but the next 3 points that i get i am going to put into dex.(of course using a weapon skin adds to your aim, so thats a way of boosting it as well if you use some sc when you pvp.) let me know if i missed something.


how do i make an aoe mage, for grinding like in the abyss. what skills should i get/max? please help me im new and what should i use, staff or wand?

there really is no wrong way to make an aoeing mage. at level 6o you get the most useful skill that you can use in pve. frost nova. only put cooldown on it becuase putting power on it is a waste, as it does not give enough damage to make a huge difference in mobbing. also, most if not all mages are charmed when they grind so the mobs will be decimated within a magicburst-nova-magicburst chain in maps like the abyss before you get inferno.

you also get chiancast, the skill that lets you use a skill two times without waiting for the cooldown. as a hybrid mage(im a mage that does pvp and pve equally) i strongly reccomend cooling down your chaincast. it is far too useful of a skill to not empower. any other skillpoints that you get, you can save for level 67, when you get inferno, and you should fully cooldown that aoe as well. save those empowerment points and dont make a mistake that you may regret!

DO NOT...I REPEAT...DO NOT PUT MAX POWER, COOLDOWN, OR BOTH ON YOUR MAGIC BURST. IT IS AN EPIC WASTE AND YOU W I L L REGRET IT.

did i miss anything? if so comment back, tell me :3

[mastergamer-12]

as for the mdmg, for what lvl? and wat weapon? is it 9'd or 1o'd? it all depends on your build and gear and such. why dont ya tell me what lvl you are and ur build and weapon and we can go from there.

Well im lvl 65 and im 10 spr and rest int with a plus 0 wand and my m dmg is only 700 and something to onlyy 800 and something so i kinda feel fail xd

[ale.wilkins]

Well im lvl 65 and im 10 spr and rest int with a plus 0 wand and my m dmg is only 700 and something to onlyy 800 and something so i kinda feel fail xd

lols then thats why. you are using an unenhanced weapon, friend. your magic damage will always be lower than usual if you cant enhance/buy a lvl 6x staff/wand. you should just tough out those last 5 levels and find a kingdom quest blue wand or staff for lvl 7o, thats best because you will use it for 2o levels, until 9o, unless you pvp a lot, then you will upgrade at level 85, to a bk boss green.

[stefanni]

well, im guessing ur asking because i never had any sc when i was grinding and leveled so slowly in the 9x's. basically, the only way i was able to do it was settling for less. the old SOD had the garg field that i could solo pull with my mover. (and everyone got mad cuase i was always hogging it lol)

once gargs became less exp than i cared for, i moved on to pulling rhinoce lords on my mover and aoeing so that they never caught me. if i did it like this, then i never had to have charms because they'd all die before they got to me.(unless i lagged, i always hoped i didnt due to no teva >.< ) then i moved on to BMM's but all of those mobs got taken away, so its harder for mages to solo nowadays.



Thanks for the in depth answer, Symph. I really appreciate it <3 Good work on this thread. I really like your answers to the question posted.

[BloodMage78]

In your mage/pvp journeys, what do you find was the pvp superior. Wizard or Warlock?
I know there is no real answer but based on what you have seen/experienced could you provide a reasonable response. o:

My reason, I've wanted wizard at one point and lock at one point. First, I wanted wizard for skeles haha. After making a mage I was convinced warlock was the superior PvP class therefore I've wanted to be one for a while.

[ale.wilkins]

In your mage/pvp journeys, what do you find was the pvp superior. Wizard or Warlock?
I know there is no real answer but based on what you have seen/experienced could you provide a reasonable response. o:

My reason, I've wanted wizard at one point and lock at one point. First, I wanted wizard for skeles haha. After making a mage I was convinced warlock was the superior PvP class therefore I've wanted to be one for a while.

i lol'd quite hard at your forum signature xD

to be completely and bluntly honest, in group pvp the wizards are better for causing havoc but in 1v1 pvp the warlocks are supreme. not saying that both cant do either or, but its what they were made for.

it all comes down to playing style. dig up information, watch some pvp videos and such, and make your choice on those facts. :3

[imesmerize]

I would look at the differences of a warlock/wizard in the long run. Right now they arn't to different in the sense that their skills are only offset by 1 or 2 tiers. The aoe's wizards can upgrade vs the 1 shot skills warlocks can upgrade. When cap raises to 120 I think the differences will greatly be noticed.

Wizards can cast summons which are great for pvp IF they attack the designated target. To many times in fbz have I seen the summons chase low levels around like they were pkers in an abyss going for who can get the highest KP. In wars I would imagine that they can wreck havoc if attacking the same target. If they branch off and each attack a different target it becomes less effective. I've seen a 8x fighter take out 1 of the summons. Blinking is the evasive move for wizards to get them out of sticky situations or can put them eye to eye with a fleeing target. Making wizards great for both offense and defense.

Warlocks can sleep people and if CC is used can sleep 2 targets, fear a target, and stiffle another one. Cutting down 4 targets making it easier to pick off if in a guild war/tournament. 1v1 sleep is really only used to buy you some time which depending on how you use it can either be a "omg I can't believe he used it in such a tactical way" or a "omg... he just slept that person for over a minute just so he could get all his skills off CD to try his luck again". Going into bird mode is a great feature in my opinion because it gives the warlock the ability to scout the playing field. In guild tournaments this can be very useful to easily taking down unguarded or weakly guarded flags. It can also be used as a "omg I don't wanna die in this 1v1 match so I will spread my wings and fly away" type of thing :p.

*note* Not trying to hate on either class, just posting both pros and cons of each class from my viewpoint.

Yes my main is only level 70 so take my info as you see fit. I'm a strategic person that thinks of all the possible angles and I helped an upcoming fighter think of her pvp strategy :). I also talk to Symph a lot IRL about these kinds of things so I'm hoping he will comment on what I posted to further help people's decision on the 2 classes.

*2nd note* *Does wave motion with arm stretched out, then crosses both arms in air and drops them down* Symph knows what I mean by this and it's something we laugh about :p.

[ale.wilkins]

I would look at the differences of a warlock/wizard in the long run. Right now they arn't to different in the sense that their skills are only offset by 1 or 2 tiers. The aoe's wizards can upgrade vs the 1 shot skills wizards can upgrade. When cap raises to 120 I think the differences will greatly be noticed.

Wizards can cast summons which are great for pvp IF they attack the designated target. To many times in fbz have I seen the summons chase low levels around like they were pkers in an abyss going for who can get the highest KP. In wars I would imagine that they can wreck havoc if attacking the same target. If they branch off and each attack a different target it becomes less effective. I've seen a 8x fighter take out 1 of the summons. Blinking is the evasive move for wizards to get them out of sticky situations or can put them eye to eye with a fleeing target. Making wizards great for both offense and defense.

Warlocks can sleep people and if CC is used can sleep 2 targets, fear a target, and stiffle another one. Cutting down 4 targets making it easier to pick off if in a guild war/tournament. 1v1 sleep is really only used to buy you some time which depending on how you use it can either be a "omg I can't believe he used it in such a tactical way" or a "omg... he just slept that person for over a minute just so he could get all his skills off CD to try his luck again". Going into bird mode is a great feature in my opinion because it gives the warlock the ability to scout the playing field. In guild tournaments this can be very useful to easily taking down unguarded or weakly guarded flags. It can also be used as a "omg I don't wanna die in this 1v1 match so I will spread my wings and fly away" type of thing :p.

*note* Not trying to hate on either class, just posting both pros and cons of each class from my viewpoint.

Yes my main is only level 70 so take my info as you see fit. I'm a strategic person that thinks of all the possible angles and I helped an upcoming fighter think of her pvp strategy :). I also talk to Symph a lot IRL about these kinds of things so I'm hoping he will comment on what I posted to further help people's decision on the 2 classes.

*2nd note* *Does wave motion with arm stretched out, then crosses both arms in hair and drops them down* Symph knows what I mean by this and it's something we laugh about :p.

couldnt have said it better myself to be honest. good observations, friend. and i lol'd quite hard at that 2nd note xD

[imesmerize]

Lol, I will forever laugh at that and you know why.

[WinterClown]

I would look at the differences of a warlock/wizard in the long run. Right now they arn't to different in the sense that their skills are only offset by 1 or 2 tiers. The aoe's wizards can upgrade vs the 1 shot skills wizards can upgrade. When cap raises to 120 I think the differences will greatly be noticed.


lvl 110 mb deals 4.5k mdmg while the highest lvl fire ball deals 3.2k (lvl 108 or something?), so imo the upgrades to lightning blast, ice blast and fire ball which warlocks get are quite useless since mb is spamable.

^--Just something i found interesting :p

[ale.wilkins]

lvl 110 mb deals 4.5k mdmg while the highest lvl fire ball deals 3.2k (lvl 108 or something?), so imo the upgrades to lightning blast, ice blast and fire ball which warlocks get are quite useless since mb is spamable.

^--Just something i found interesting :p

win lv 55 sun set swapping is win. :D

[dragonleather]

Symph, who would win in a fight, you or Chuck Norris?

And if you answer yes, do you think you could take on Bruce Lee?


whts tht havta do with anything >.> and also to the mage anwserer.....: why do mages suck D=

[ale.wilkins]

whts tht havta do with anything >.> and also to the mage anwserer.....: why do mages suck D=

this is why all mages suck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW2a3cx5jEY

have a nice day.

[lovingakita]

Excuse me sir, What kind of skill should I start empowering? I have no idea what skills to max. I have 13 Unused skill points. >.<.

Another thing, may I know what server you play on? I'd like to add you, if you do not mind.

[imeel]

lvl 110 mb deals 4.5k mdmg while the highest lvl fire ball deals 3.2k (lvl 108 or something?), so imo the upgrades to lightning blast, ice blast and fire ball which warlocks get are quite useless since mb is spamable.

^--Just something i found interesting :p

There is also that most people forget, lvl 103 fireball with max dmg empowerment adds 2036 magical dmg while lvl 105 magic blast additional magic dmg is like 15xx with max dmg. Still magic blast is going to hit more, but fireball isnt that bad.

This new magic blast animation looks shorter and faster to cast btw o.o.

And those upgrades are kinda annoying i agree...like nova's and inferno upgrades are too. I believe the warlocks still going to hit more than a wizard at aoeing, need to check it.

[ale.wilkins]

Excuse me sir, What kind of skill should I start empowering? I have no idea what skills to max. I have 13 Unused skill points. >.<.

Another thing, may I know what server you play on? I'd like to add you, if you do not mind.

hm, you havent quite given me a lot of information to work with atm. when you cone back, why dont you tell me what your skillbuild is atm, as well as what level your mage is and how you play on a regular basis.

i play on apoline :3


There is also that most people forget, lvl 103 fireball with max dmg empowerment adds 2036 magical dmg while lvl 105 magic blast additional magic dmg is like 15xx with max dmg. Still magic blast is going to hit more, but fireball isnt that bad.

This new magic blast animation looks shorter and faster to cast btw o.o.

And those upgrades are kinda annoying i agree...like nova's and inferno upgrades are too. I believe the warlocks still going to hit more than a wizard at aoeing, need to check it.

the 1o5 MB blasts with 1781 additional mdmg and if you are a gearswitcher it adds another 25 percent. if you have the aim, then boom boom. :3

aoe's wont be a problem for either class of mage. everyone did their class prestige on how they wanted to pvp, in my personal opinion. the nova and inferno upgrades have like, no damage added in them lol

[lovingakita]

Oh, you do? Darn it. hehe. I play in Legel. :(. I.. am full INT so far. and.. I wanted.. to max Magic Burst, so I can AoE easier and grind in the abyss. Nobody wants a Mage, they only want Clerics. :(. and nobody.. is friendly enough to help me. hehe. so I just KQ whenever I can. and i don't.. know what skills to max! Also.. if you have like.. MSN, or something we can maybe chat on? if you do, may I pelase have it? You can send it through private messaging, as I said before, if you don't want to give it to me, that's fine too. hehe. :).

[WinterClown]

this is why all mages suck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW2a3cx5jEY

have a nice day.

It's still blocked QQ

[ale.wilkins]

Oh, you do? Darn it. hehe. I play in Legel. :(. I.. am full INT so far. and.. I wanted.. to max Magic Burst, so I can AoE easier and grind in the abyss. Nobody wants a Mage, they only want Clerics. :(. and nobody.. is friendly enough to help me. hehe. so I just KQ whenever I can. and i don't.. know what skills to max! Also.. if you have like.. MSN, or something we can maybe chat on? if you do, may I pelase have it? You can send it through private messaging, as I said before, if you don't want to give it to me, that's fine too. hehe. :).

i think that i already posted earlier in this thread(i may be mistaken, it couldve been another thread) NOT to empower your magic burst. you will regret it in the later levels. if you dont want to have to spend money on sparkcash later to reskill, then just save your points and dont put anything on your skills until you hit level 6o.

lower level mages are always hard to level, becuase they cant aoe(which is why YOU get to be choosy on the partys you go into once you get that level becuase EVERYONE will need you to level up :D )so just keep working hard with your quest repeats and kingdom quests until you can get up there. by the way, you still havent told me what level your mage is :/ i dont know where you are levelwise so i cant tell you what to empower.

a lot of people dont party more than they need becuase they are using real money on this game and dont want ''a leech'' in the party taking their exp points. just work hard and you'll get there. everyone needs mages :)

[lovingakita]

Omgashh. level 6x? >.<. that's.. so long from now! hehe. I don't know how to find parties. nobody really wants to join me with anything. >.<. and Academy people ignore me!! :(. Oh! and my character's level 31. I'm terribly sorry for not telling you, no. I do not have SparkCash, and if I did. what could I buy to help myself? :O. and do you have.. msn? :O.

[imeel]

Omgashh. level 6x? >.<. that's.. so long from now! hehe. I don't know how to find parties. nobody really wants to join me with anything. >.<. and Academy people ignore me!! :(. Oh! and my character's level 31. I'm terribly sorry for not telling you, no. I do not have SparkCash, and if I did. what could I buy to help myself? :O. and do you have.. msn? :O.

Thats the lower level mage life, no one wants mages till 60+

[lovingakita]

Oh really? darnn.. I would quest. but it's too hard! LOL. I'm a failure. >.<.

[ale.wilkins]

Omgashh. level 6x? >.<. that's.. so long from now! hehe. I don't know how to find parties. nobody really wants to join me with anything. >.<. and Academy people ignore me!! :(. Oh! and my character's level 31. I'm terribly sorry for not telling you, no. I do not have SparkCash, and if I did. what could I buy to help myself? :O. and do you have.. msn? :O.

level 6o may seem like its a long way away, but in all honesty if you take your time and have no sc, you can still do it. i didnt use sc until my 8x's and it slowed my leveling down, but i still managed to make it like any other person. and it hadn't occurred to me that people may want ''1 on 1 talking'' besides the forums. ill make a separate email address, download msn, and have it especially for mage question answering. ill post it on the first posting that i made and edit it so that everyone can see it.

so ur lvl 31 eh? like i said you dont need to empower anything at that low of a level. if you have, then you may have to reset your stats. finding parties is lame like i said before, for mages that are under level 6o and cant charm because mages have such low defense and hp. for you, i would just solo your quest repeats, though it may take a long time, and steadily level from there. find yourself some friends(CLERIC FRIENDS :O!) and stick together. a mage that knows clerics is in a good place, as are clerics that know well-rounded mages. even if you just have one or two(wait for it) they will stick with you for as long as they play this game. ( i <3 you shiva, stefannie, AND Alicia <333 :3 )

as for sc purchasing, you dont really need it because of the steady stream of quests that you get, but if you really think that you are dying too much as a mage and dont have tons of silver to buy your t3 scrolls and potions with to avoid dying, the only thing id recommend buying would be a blessing of teva. it will save you a lot of time, but like i said, you get tons of exp for doing the quests so you would earn it back really fast if you did.

abyss grinding is always annoying because of ''you know what's'' in there, so make that a last resort if you dont have anything else that you can do, or you think that the questing isnt fast enough/not being completed in rapid succession.

keep at it, we're all in this together :3

[lovingakita]

Omgashhh. how stinkyy. :(. Hehe. I have to level so slowly!! :(.

[ale.wilkins]

Omgashhh. how stinkyy. :(. Hehe. I have to level so slowly!! :(.

like i said, unfortunately, before lvl 6x all mages level slowly unless they have a lvling partner that sticks by them all the time.

[i.jedi]

What kind of hardware/software specs are you using on your laptop/pc?

[omnimon87]

do mages have ANY defencive skills, besides debuffs? lol

[ale.wilkins]

What kind of hardware/software specs are you using on your laptop/pc?

im using MS Windows XP professional SP3 with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor with 3 GB of ram. if that didnt answer your question than please repost :3


do mages have ANY defencive skills, besides debuffs? lol

not before level 6o, when you get fear and lvl 73?(ithink lol ill have to double check) when you get stifle, a skill that makes other players seem like they are lagging and cant cast skills. later on you get ice field and bird mode/blink depending on what prestige class you choose.

[Zjeff.Jz]

how should i empower my skills? i'm going to be a pvp mage, my build is pure int. i plan to use crit suits. is it worth to +9 a lvl 40 wand? +16 end +13 dex and +2 int

[ale.wilkins]

how should i empower my skills? i'm going to be a pvp mage, my build is pure int. i plan to use crit suits. is it worth to +9 a lvl 40 wand? +16 end +13 dex and +2 int

not really, unless you plan on camping an abyss at level 46. lower level weapons arent as worthwhile to enhance/buy because you outlevel them so fast. the first enhanced weapon i ever bought was a level 6o wand. also, if the wand that you have isnt a boss weapon than its even more worthless because it doesnt have more damage.

[Zjeff.Jz]

not really, unless you plan on camping an abyss at level 46. lower level weapons arent as worthwhile to enhance/buy because you outlevel them so fast. the first enhanced weapon i ever bought was a level 6o wand. also, if the wand that you have isnt a boss weapon than its even more worthless because it doesnt have more damage.

okay, thanks. which skills should i empower?

[dragonleather]

Hello ive been playin fighters,clerics and archers so i was curious wht a mage was like =o

i got a few questions:

1: is full spr a good idea

2:do mages fail at lv 1-59

3: should i add skill points to my lower type skills like magic missle and ice bolt ect.

4: should i choose staff or wand

5: should i up nova

6:wizzard or warlock

7: should i use blue sets from lv 20+

8: is life tapping in a kq anoying for healers

9:why is ice bolt uber fast

10:should i stay perm lv 36?

11: should i stay perm lv 46?

12: should i stay perm lv 56?

13: should i stay perm lv 66

14:should i stay perm lv76

15: should i stay perm lv86

16: should i get a helga wand or staff

17: should i +10 staffs or wands

18: should i save my tower quests for lv 30+

19: is 60 job change class hard?

20: is 20 job change quest hard?

21 should i up chain casting

22:should i get a wepon skin

23:what name should my mage be

24:wht perm mount do mages look good in

25: wht hair and face and hair color would make a mage look hot

26: wht suit makes mages look hot

27:wht mini house looks hot on mages

28: how do i not llook like a nub

29: when are mages almost powerfull

30:should i get an in game wife?


thx for hearing my questions plz reply to em all =D

[dragonleather]

Hello ive been playin fighters,clerics and archers so i was curious wht a mage was like =o

i got a few questions:

1: is full spr a good idea

2:do mages fail at lv 1-59

3: should i add skill points to my lower type skills like magic missle and ice bolt ect.

4: should i choose staff or wand

5: should i up nova

6:wizzard or warlock

7: should i use blue sets from lv 20+

8: is life tapping in a kq anoying for healers

9:why is ice bolt uber fast

10:should i stay perm lv 36?

11: should i stay perm lv 46?

12: should i stay perm lv 56?

13: should i stay perm lv 66

14:should i stay perm lv76

15: should i stay perm lv86

16: should i get a helga wand or staff

17: should i +10 staffs or wands

18: should i save my tower quests for lv 30+

19: is 60 job change class hard?

20: is 20 job change quest hard?

21 should i up chain casting

22:should i get a wepon skin

23:what name should my mage be

24:wht perm mount do mages look good in

25: wht hair and face and hair color would make a mage look hot

26: wht suit makes mages look hot

27:wht mini house looks hot on mages

28: how do i not llook like a nub

29: when are mages almost powerfull

30:should i get an in game wife?


thx for hearing my questions plz reply to em all =D

sorry have a few more questions =P :

31: how do i get diabolic enchanter

32: how i get powerfull enchanter titles

33: wht builds r best for PvP for mages

34: why is my Ar showing a blank screen

35: is sc cool for mages?

thanks sorry but im curious pls reply to all and i mean plz ALL

[soulofdarkness]

Hello ive been playin fighters,clerics and archers so i was curious wht a mage was like =o

i got a few questions:

1: is full spr a good idea Not really, Spr is really only good until 25 points

2:do mages fail at lv 1-59 They don't totally fail, but yes, they are pretty weak

3: should i add skill points to my lower type skills like magic missle and ice bolt ect. Its recommended that you don't - those points are better off spent on the higher level skills

4: should i choose staff or wand That depends on what you enjoy doing the most- Wands have a higher damage and crit, but staffs have a higher aim. There isn't too much difference between the two.

5: should i up nova 5 Points on cooldown is recommended

6:wizzard or warlock It depends on your playing style. It is generally thought Wizards= PvE, Warlock= PvP, but both classes are perfectly capable of doing both activities

7: should i use blue sets from lv 20+ Yes, if you can afford it. Blue tops are incredibly useful because of the bonus to hp, and some of the sets have some good effects.

8: is life tapping in a kq anoying for healers It can be annoying for some clerics. Don't do it unless its absolutely neccesary (you should know, you've played cleric

9:why is ice bolt uber fast It isnt? MB/MM and Fire bolt/Ball are the fastest CD skills

10:should i stay perm lv 36? Not Recommended

11: should i stay perm lv 46? Not Recommended

12: should i stay perm lv 56? Not Recommended

13: should i stay perm lv 66 Possible, but only go perm if you have godly gears/alot of money

14:should i stay perm lv76 Better than perm 66, but it does get boring x.x

15: should i stay perm lv86 Boring - At this point its better just to cap

16: should i get a helga wand or staff If you have the money, go for it. But BKR and BKs are fine.

17: should i +10 staffs or wands Again, if you can afford it, go for it.

18: should i save my tower quests for lv 30+ I found that its easiest to save all the quests until poison golem quest is unlocked, then do them all. Then when you first unlock the floor 20 quest, do it all again. It shouldnt be that hard to grind those levels though- tower doesnt have as much influence as it used to

19: is 60 job change class hard? No

20: is 20 job change quest hard? Some find it hard, but honestly it isnt that bad

21 should i up chain casting Max cooldown if you want

22:should i get a wepon skin If you can afford it, I would recommend it. They rarely go on sale but when they do they are a great help for PvP/PvE

23:what name should my mage be Something that sounds cool, but is unique to you. Don't add too many numbers x.x

24:wht perm mount do mages look good in Something fast.

25: wht hair and face and hair color would make a mage look hot Personal opinion.

26: wht suit makes mages look hot Again, personal opinion. Try running around uruga and looking at some of the sc suits around there, then buying what you thought looked the coolest.

27:wht mini house looks hot on mages All mini houses are hot.

28: how do i not llook like a nub Wear sc like it grows on trees and you look pro. But honestly just don't act like your 5 years old and you should be fine.

29: when are mages almost powerfull Mages are almost powerful at level 59, from there, the higher they get the stronger they are pretty much

30:should i get an in game wife? Yeh, but make it someone you actually spend alot of time with

sorry have a few more questions =P :

31: how do i get diabolic enchanter Reach level 80

32: how i get powerfull enchanter titles Level up

33: wht builds r best for PvP for mages Pure int, 50 dex rest int, or a 25 spr hybrid

34: why is my Ar showing a blank screen Im not sure

35: is sc cool for mages? Yes. Mages require alot of sc.

thanks sorry but im curious pls reply to all and i mean plz ALL


thx for hearing my questions plz reply to em all =D

No Problem!

Sorry for answering if you wanted a symph answer x.x

[ale.wilkins]

No Problem!

Sorry for answering if you wanted a symph answer x.x

again, couldnt have said it better myself. if u have other more specific questions, then add my msn that is in the first posting. (:

[ale.wilkins]

okay, thanks. which skills should i empower?

sorry i was vacant from this thread for a while. like i said in the other reply that i gave you earlier, you shouldnt use any skill points until you get magic blast, and put damage and cooldown on it. just save the rest until you hit level 6o and get fear, chaincast, and nova. then you'll want to cool all of those down and if you pvp a lot, then duration on fear as well.

[notyourslave]

Question - when are you going to p-lvl my mage like you said you would do after you hit 100? lol baby angel is soooooo bored at 91 with no hg and a shackle set sitting in invi.

[LongshotFoxx]

Really? I find that I use life tap a lot in KQs.
I've actually put 5 points into CD on Life Tap. It helps a lot.
Here's the thing, some clerics find it annoying, some find it awesome to be the battery of an extreme damage dealer called a mage. Mages only start to get decent at around 4x and above.

About KQs and life tap tho.

I find that using life tap is perfectly fine. As long as you protect your cleric. Whenever I go into Millenium Robo, I use magic burst to grab aggro from my cleric and save his/her life. That way he/she can rev me and keep healing. This actually works very well. Ever since I started using this method, I haven't failed in Millenium Robo once after that. The mage was built to have extremely strong powers and to live like they have nothing to lose. When I have a cleric, I play that way. They like it a lot, everyone does. It proves mages ARE good for something.

Plus, mages can down monsters a lot faster than any other class if ya use em right. Using the Life Tap when I have a good healer cleric makes grinding go very quickly.

Although a lot of people recommend NOT putting skill points into Life Tap, it depends on what you do. If you like soloing a lot, then yeah, don't. I just party a lot with a cleric so I know that that 5 point CD will be worth it. It saves me from using a ton of SP stones.

Although this may not be the case during the early levels, it starts to pick up around 4x and above. The closer you get to magic blast, the closer you are to becoming awesome.

Also, don't spend anything on firebolt or magic missile unless you have to. They're really crappy spells, and they die at around 5x. Just do cooldown on mm and then buy a skill point change card later on after you get magic blast. Once you get magic blast, you're gonna want to put 5 into CD and 5 into dmg. After that, it's fireball that you want to put 10 points into (I think). After fireball, it's going to be chain casting, or drain mind. Whichever you prefer. I'd personally say do it in cc, because that effectively reduces CD on ALL spells. Drain mind only confuses your opponent and makes him run around in random directions. Although useful, this might have drawbacks when the random directions go out of your casting range and you have to chase it down.

Hope this made sense.

[mastergamer-12]

Um I rlly dnt think you should empower life tap at all because as a mage a have like 3k mp at 6x and like 100 sp stones and I have never ever run out of sp stones ever I can do cc alot and I will not run out of sp stones lol so life tapping is useless in my view and not worth empowering it

[ale.wilkins]

Really? I find that I use life tap a lot in KQs.
I've actually put 5 points into CD on Life Tap. It helps a lot.
Here's the thing, some clerics find it annoying, some find it awesome to be the battery of an extreme damage dealer called a mage. Mages only start to get decent at around 4x and above.

About KQs and life tap tho.

I find that using life tap is perfectly fine. As long as you protect your cleric. Whenever I go into Millenium Robo, I use magic burst to grab aggro from my cleric and save his/her life. That way he/she can rev me and keep healing. This actually works very well. Ever since I started using this method, I haven't failed in Millenium Robo once after that. The mage was built to have extremely strong powers and to live like they have nothing to lose. When I have a cleric, I play that way. They like it a lot, everyone does. It proves mages ARE good for something.

Plus, mages can down monsters a lot faster than any other class if ya use em right. Using the Life Tap when I have a good healer cleric makes grinding go very quickly.

Although a lot of people recommend NOT putting skill points into Life Tap, it depends on what you do. If you like soloing a lot, then yeah, don't. I just party a lot with a cleric so I know that that 5 point CD will be worth it. It saves me from using a ton of SP stones.

Although this may not be the case during the early levels, it starts to pick up around 4x and above. The closer you get to magic blast, the closer you are to becoming awesome.

Also, don't spend anything on firebolt or magic missile unless you have to. They're really crappy spells, and they die at around 5x. Just do cooldown on mm and then buy a skill point change card later on after you get magic blast. Once you get magic blast, you're gonna want to put 5 into CD and 5 into dmg. After that, it's fireball that you want to put 10 points into (I think). After fireball, it's going to be chain casting, or drain mind. Whichever you prefer. I'd personally say do it in cc, because that effectively reduces CD on ALL spells. Drain mind only confuses your opponent and makes him run around in random directions. Although useful, this might have drawbacks when the random directions go out of your casting range and you have to chase it down.

Hope this made sense.

this makes sense, however you arent going to like those points being there in your later levels. if you fully cooled your life tap, you will end up taking it off later. i mean, if you always have that cleric with you, thats ok, but most clerics find that skill annoying, and if you use it too much, some clerics(lol) will even let you die and blame it on lag, cuase their opinion on it is ''why are your sp stones more important than mine? we both gotta pay for our stones ya know.'' it also makes healing you harder especially while mobbing.

your mage seems like it is still young, becuase your view on the skills is right, but the way that you described them is wrong. unless you use fear to escape someone in the abyss, then you are always going towards the person that is feared. you will hardly ever run into a time that the person runs out of casting range while they are feared.

oh yeah, and again, if you expect to be partied by anyone else besides your usual cleric friend in kq's, then dont use life tap every 10 seconds. it makes you harder to heal, and keeps priority on you, rather than the other pt members, and it could make everyone die.

[LongshotFoxx]

Good points, yeah my mage is pretty young.
I totally get what you're saying, when I'm knocking monsters out before they even touch me, I use Life Tap a lot.

Yes, I probably will take those points off later, but they seem to be working fine atm.

When there's a bunch of ppl in the party, I usually refrain from using Life Tap so the cleric can focus on other team members.

O_O they seriously blame it on lag and let you die? Whoa, I'll be sure to partner with a nicer cleric. I've met a few of those clerics, but I seem to be lucky in that I know a lot of clerics that don't mind at all. Clerics ARE a support class (imo, another highly debated topic), and healing a mage after using Life Tap is in my opinion the way they can support mages in a party. Although it can get annoying, it's an extremely useful skill. I run through my SP bar in 3 or 4 monsters. When grinding, that can add up to a lot of SP stones. Since it takes them about 50 sp (estimate) to heal, they can basically turn 50 sp into 300 sp. It's a lot more cost efficient. Maybe when I'm partying, I'll suggest I pay for part of the cost for their sp restone. Who knows, maybe I'll do that if I run into a stingy cleric.

Of course, when I'm mobbing, I won't be using that. Just between runs.

The whole drain mind thing was based off of assumption and reasoning. Thanks for the hard data.

[ale.wilkins]

Good points, yeah my mage is pretty young.
I totally get what you're saying, when I'm knocking monsters out before they even touch me, I use Life Tap a lot.

Yes, I probably will take those points off later, but they seem to be working fine atm.

When there's a bunch of ppl in the party, I usually refrain from using Life Tap so the cleric can focus on other team members.

O_O they seriously blame it on lag and let you die? Whoa, I'll be sure to partner with a nicer cleric. I've met a few of those clerics, but I seem to be lucky in that I know a lot of clerics that don't mind at all. Clerics ARE a support class (imo, another highly debated topic), and healing a mage after using Life Tap is in my opinion the way they can support mages in a party. Although it can get annoying, it's an extremely useful skill. I run through my SP bar in 3 or 4 monsters. When grinding, that can add up to a lot of SP stones. Since it takes them about 50 sp (estimate) to heal, they can basically turn 50 sp into 300 sp. It's a lot more cost efficient. Maybe when I'm partying, I'll suggest I pay for part of the cost for their sp restone. Who knows, maybe I'll do that if I run into a stingy cleric.

Of course, when I'm mobbing, I won't be using that. Just between runs.

The whole drain mind thing was based off of assumption and reasoning. Thanks for the hard data.

yeah lol. most clerics(dont hate me clerics of apoline) hate mages becuase they already have a hard enough time healing the party, and they have to put up with the mage taking their OWN life as WELL as the monsters slaughtering the low def. thats the main thing. so they just let you die. lol.

[novotny]

i play cleric and i think mages are stupid NOT to use Life Tap when in a party with a cleric. As long as they use it in between mobs or something similar.

[ale.wilkins]

i play cleric and i think mages are stupid NOT to use Life Tap when in a party with a cleric. As long as they use it in between mobs or something similar.

then you are a one of a kind cleric.

[BloodMage78]

I don't even own life tap. I don't see a point in having it. I go through my hp stones faster then my sp ones.

[LongshotFoxx]

i play cleric and i think mages are stupid NOT to use Life Tap when in a party with a cleric. As long as they use it in between mobs or something similar.

Yeah, Life Tap is a perfect combo with a cleric. It just makes sense. Life Tap was made for partying with a cleric. I can't see any other use other than you have more HP than SP stones. Although, even then it would be a waste, imo.


then you are a one of a kind cleric.

For some strange reason, 95% of the clerics I run into in Cypion have this attitude. There are only a few tanker clerics, and they don't have very many friends. They also take forever in taking down a monster.

Although I have taken what you've said before into consideration, I ask clerics whether or not it's ok with them for me to use Life Tap. After all, they do have control of the party. Even though they may not be the leader sometimes, all they have to do is with-hold heals to make someone do what they say. Trust me, I've coerced a tanker fighter into my PT during a KQ because I was the only cleric =).


I don't even own life tap. I don't see a point in having it. I go through my hp stones faster then my sp ones.

O_O Maybe if you learned how to kill monsters before they hit you, you would use less HP stones? Plus, even though you don't use SP stones that often, it saves you a lot in the long run.

[BloodMage78]

O_O Maybe if you learned how to kill monsters before they hit you, you would use less HP stones? Plus, even though you don't use SP stones that often, it saves you a lot in the long run.

Good luck leveling at a steady pace then.
I got 90 in a month. I solo AoE for the most part. Even in AoE parties you're going through HP faster then SP stones.

[LongshotFoxx]

Good luck leveling at a steady pace then.
I got 90 in a month. I solo AoE for the most part. Even in AoE parties you're going through HP faster then SP stones.

Ok, wow, 90 in a month! Nice! How many hours a day did you play? I can only play like 1 hour per day on the weekends, so my pace is pretty slow.

Well, see, that's why I added the question mark at the end of the sentence. It made sense to me, but I wasn't sure since I hardly have any experience.

Yeah, that makes sense, going through more HP than SP now that I think some more about it. You're casting one spell while getting hit by 5 or more monsters (idk how many monsters you AoE =P). Anyways, thanks for letting me know.

[BloodMage78]

No worries. Umm not sure, I don't keep track of how much I play.

And try 20+ monsters :>

[LongshotFoxx]

No worries. Umm not sure, I don't keep track of how much I play.

And try 20+ monsters :>

20+? You got it!

As soon as I find time to plvl/grind hardcore to 60. Any tips for how to lvl up fast solo? I know lvling with a cleric and doing repeatables rock, but I was wondering if you knew a super fast way, since you have all of that experience on your belt. =P

[BloodMage78]

I spent alot of sc. I just solo'd the abyss.

[LongshotFoxx]

Ok. So how do I solo abyss? Tons of stones, scrolls, and pots? I've tried a ton of times before, but I fail at abyss. X_X

[Infestation]

LIfe tapping isn't a problem if it's done at the right time. As long as it's not done as the horde is about to hit or something like that. Preferably if a mage sees me toss invig on everyone that is the best time to use it since you'll be getting it back. I also tend to use tap on my mage everytime I see the cleric do that. I've never had one speak up and say something about it.

[BloodMage78]

Ok. So how do I solo abyss? Tons of stones, scrolls, and pots? I've tried a ton of times before, but I fail at abyss. X_X

Full stones, full set of T3 scrolls, pots if ya need them and charms.

What are the exact bonuses of a wizard/warlock at prestige

[ale.wilkins]

Full stones, full set of T3 scrolls, pots if ya need them and charms.

What are the exact bonuses of a wizard/warlock at prestige

to be honset, im not sure. i wouldve had screenshots of when i prestiged as well as my friend that prestiged, wiz and loc, but my harddrive fried shortly after i prestiged back then and i lost all my stuff. my lock friend has before and after ss of his stuff so ill try to see if i can get them for you guys to see.

[Infestation]

What are the effects of the 95 Frost set?

[BloodMage78]

I know warlocks get a INT bonus and HP bonus. (Think 40 int and not sure how much hp)
And I'm pretty sure Wizards get SPR. Not sure if anything else though.

[ale.wilkins]

wizards get an mdef boost, small def boost, like 16 hp( lols ) and a bunch of sp. thats what i remember.

[imeel]

You can see the prestige class stats bonus in this thread.

http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222999

Wizard
Character stat boosts: 32 def, 38 mdef
Hp boost: ~15-25hp
Sp boost: ~938-1031

Warlock
Character stat boosts: 97 int
Hp boost: 321
Sp boost: 470

[ale.wilkins]

Thank you everyone for your input and constructive criticism. this thread took off a lot better than i thought it would. :)

[ale.wilkins]

bump :D

[i.jedi]

Can you post the max cd and duration times of ice field and mesmerize plz?

[LongshotFoxx]

CD on both Mez and Ice field: 240 seconds.
Duration on mez: The wiki doesn't say, but I've heard it's maybe 1 or 2 minutes?
Duration on Ice field: I think it's about 30 seconds from PvP vids I've seen. Not sure. Although there are tons of prestiges in Fiesta, no one has updated the wiki...

Also, a question of my own. Does END in the stat build make any difference at all? Or even DEX?
I've seen how much of a huge difference END can make in a fighter, so I was thinking maybe it might translate into mages even more than fighters, given that mages are squishy.

[imeel]

CD on both Mez and Ice field: 240 seconds.
Duration on mez: The wiki doesn't say, but I've heard it's maybe 1 or 2 minutes?
Duration on Ice field: I think it's about 30 seconds from PvP vids I've seen. Not sure. Although there are tons of prestiges in Fiesta, no one has updated the wiki...

Also, a question of my own. Does END in the stat build make any difference at all? Or even DEX?
I've seen how much of a huge difference END can make in a fighter, so I was thinking maybe it might translate into mages even more than fighters, given that mages are squishy.

You are wrong..this is fiesta america's version, not korean..

Ice field have 240sec CD and duration of 10 seconds.
Mesmerize have 40sec CD and 20sec duration.

And no END doesnt make a diference, because each END point in free stats adds only 0.5 def (END gear adds 1 def per point), 5hp and block rate but a mage doesnt use shields.

[zerogenis110]

How much does 33dex or 50dex in build add towards aim/evasion? ^_^

[Infestation]

Bah um... lets see.

33 dex = 99 aim, 66eva

50 dex = 134 aim, 100 eva


And in response to the End in the build question yes it makes a difference. Free stat end is similar to free stat str/int. While free stat int/str ignore the defence of the target and just deal straight damage, free stat end isn't used in the initial damage vs def reduction, it is pure damage reduction after the fact. So if you were to have 100 end points, you would get some extra def, 500 hp, but the biggest difference would be the 50 points of damage taken out of the total at the end. The points are more useful in dex and int because what doesn't hit you or is dead already can't hurt you, so no need to reduce the damage.

[jakey121]

No, dex adds as a %

so 33 dex = 9.9%, 6.6% eva
50 dex =13.4%aim, 10% eva

[LongshotFoxx]

You are wrong..this is fiesta america's version, not korean..

Ice field have 240sec CD and duration of 10 seconds.
Mesmerize have 40sec CD and 20sec duration.

And no END doesnt make a diference, because each END point in free stats adds only 0.5 def (END gear adds 1 def per point), 5hp and block rate but a mage doesnt use shields.

Thank you for the correction and the tips on END.

[angelofdarkness21]

No, dex adds as a %

so 33 dex = 9.9%, 6.6% eva
50 dex =13.4%aim, 10% eva

No, dex adds as both. I'm almost certain there's a thread somewhere that proves that 0.1% aim/eva=1 aim/eva.

[hiro9]

First forum post evar!!!!!! ok my question for you symphonic358 is how do you dodge a tomahawk?


Liar! I think...

Anyway, symphonic I've been adding str to my build since the beginning so that my auto-attack hits harder. Any reason I'm so weak?

>_> sarcasm? it says below his avatar how many posts that person has posted :O

[Infestation]

Can you tell me what a G6 is?

[LongshotFoxx]

For a mage that plans to be largely a PvE mage build and empower base, would empowering full damage on Nova be worth it?

[ale.wilkins]

For a mage that plans to be largely a PvE mage build and empower base, would empowering full damage on Nova be worth it?

nope, cause in this game, weather you do large mobs, small mobs, or even grind in charms, the monsters get decimated in a nova and an inferno. i tested it and i used level 1 nova and level 1 inferno on black bears and phouches in AR and it still killed them just as fast as the higher level nova and inferno. putting damage on nova isnt worth it.

[ale.wilkins]

bumpin it up y'allz like a bowss.

[leobaloy]

Is fireball worth keeping empowered for a wizard? seeing as MB at 100 does more dmg, no cast time, spammable..
and
Is it better to use Ice bolt or ice blast? And is there a difference in the speed reduction to your target?

and what's the difference between sun/spark sets? (lv55 set)

both have "magic blast attack rate increased" or is that a typo?

Edit: ignore spark/sun set question

just noticed it says Magic BURST :c../fail eye sight

[BloodMage78]

I use ice bolt cause it casts quicker. Personally I don't notice a difference in speed between the two, either way they aren't going to catch you unless you run into a wall or a glad uses dash. And if they are still alive, by the time they get to you stifle is usually ready again.

[ale.wilkins]

Is fireball worth keeping empowered for a wizard? seeing as MB at 100 does more dmg, no cast time, spammable..
and
Is it better to use Ice bolt or ice blast? And is there a difference in the speed reduction to your target?

and what's the difference between sun/spark sets? (lv55 set)

both have "magic blast attack rate increased" or is that a typo?

to the first question, fireball is useless for wizards that are still currently grinding and pvp. i dont have any other single shot empowered besides my magic blast for the reasons that you stated; spammable, and does more damage.

second question, i use ice bolt becuase its animation is faster(for male avatars). i like the utility of the skill and not having to wait on standing still especially if im being chased by a fighter. i dotn ever use ice bolt for the damage, only to slow them down. ice blast slows them down a tad more, but they wont catch you if you have them slowed in some way shape or form.

third question, spark set is useless because it only gives damage on the aoe attack magic burst. sun set is the most useful set of armor for all mages because of the damage that it gives to magic blast, and if you become a gearswitcher later on in pvp, you will dominate anyone that you play against if you switch at the right times.

if they both have magic blast attack rate then its a typo. only the sun set gives magic blast damage.


I use ice bolt cause it casts quicker. Personally I don't notice a difference in speed between the two, either way they aren't going to catch you unless you run into a wall or a glad uses dash. And if they are still alive, by the time they get to you stifle is usually ready again.

ice bolt is not as slow as ice blast, but like i said, i use it for the utility, not the damage. and if ur built for pvp then ur stifle will be cooled by the time they try to get you again. :3

[BloodMage78]

Yey for a billion keep away spells.

[LongshotFoxx]

nope, cause in this game, weather you do large mobs, small mobs, or even grind in charms, the monsters get decimated in a nova and an inferno. i tested it and i used level 1 nova and level 1 inferno on black bears and phouches in AR and it still killed them just as fast as the higher level nova and inferno. putting damage on nova isnt worth it.

Ok, awesome. That saves me 5 points for CC...

So from what I'm reading, Nova and Inferno are both based on base INT or something?

Thanks for the info.

[ale.wilkins]

Ok, awesome. That saves me 5 points for CC...

So from what I'm reading, Nova and Inferno are both based on base INT or something?

Thanks for the info.

if you plan on pvping then id cool down your chaincast regardless of if u pve or not, and regardless of if you choose wizard or warlock. its extremely useful at 95 when you have the right set of blues.

anyways, nova and inferno are based on your damage, and not quite the actual skill damage, as are every other skill that is in the game. meaning that the burst of damage or the spread of damage isnt changed by much when you aoe, especially if ur charmed lol.

[LongshotFoxx]

Ok, that makes sense.

But from my experience, at 61, my Magic Blast does just about as much damage as Nova. Heck, it seems like Nova actually does more damage. But that's probably because I'm aka pulling all the time.

Also, do crits on licenses stack up? Right now I'm training a Jr. Archon license and I'm planning to do a Pixie license. I don't want to waste valuable time on something that won't add crit.

[leobaloy]

It won't stack.

Once you get 5% crit (for the comp lic) you only get 5, can't go higher

[run2709]

Excuse me but may I ask what stat should be in a mage's equipment? I'm a 25 spr rest int build so... Hope someone can kindly answer this

[LongshotFoxx]

It won't stack.

Once you get 5% crit (for the comp lic) you only get 5, can't go higher

Blast...

Thank you very much for saving me from wasting a ton of time. xP


Excuse me but may I ask what stat should be in a mage's equipment? I'm a 25 spr rest int build so... Hope someone can kindly answer this

END, DEX, INT. In that order. If you're having trouble with aim, switch to a staff for a while until you get some DEX gears or just use an aim scroll.

[run2709]

END, DEX, INT. In that order. If you're having trouble with aim, switch to a staff for a while until you get some DEX gears or just use an aim scroll.[/QUOTE]

oh? You mean I need to have more END/DEX eq? why so? ~.~

[imeel]

I recommend you END/DEX/SPR.

[run2709]

Blast...

Thank you very much for saving me from wasting a ton of time. xP



END, DEX, INT. In that order. If you're having trouble with aim, switch to a staff for a while until you get some DEX gears or just use an aim scroll.


I recommend you END/DEX/SPR.

why not int?

[LongshotFoxx]

oh? You mean I need to have more END/DEX eq? why so? ~.~
END because it will help you last a lot longer when soloing mobs. DEX because it helps with aim and evasion.
INT for a little added m.dmg.


why not int?

She's more of a PvP mage, and adding SPR is like adding END in that it adds m.def. This will help with staying alive against mages. Plus in PvP, you don't need as much END in gears because if a fighter gets you within reach, you're dead.

Plus mages already have a lot of INT anyways.

She and I are both giving sound advice, I just think I'm talking about PvE and she's talking about PvP.

[crazzyqiqi]

Hello. I just started playing not long ago.
And i finally reach lv20.
So where and which npc should i go to? i try talking to grand master sean but the npc did nt ask me to enter the dungeon.

I kinda confused

[droskxd]

Hello. I just started playing not long ago.
And i finally reach lv20.
So where and which npc should i go to? i try talking to grand master sean but the npc did nt ask me to enter the dungeon.

I kinda confused

Go to Guard Captain Shutian, first he'll ask if you know what you're supposed to do now. When you've answered right talk with him again and he'll give you a quest to go to Grand Master Sean.

[imeel]

why not int?

END = HP for survivality.
DEX = gives you nice evasion (at 95+ can be mostly for aim)
SPR = to help you against mage vs mage and boost ur boss taking habilities (increasing your mdef)

INT is not bad, but i prefer the other stats and works great for me, i never had dmg problems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPYn7lJaXR4

[LongshotFoxx]

So what would your build be if you don't add INT? 50 DEX/ rest SPR or something?

Btw, that vid shows a lot. INT looks useless in gears.

[imeel]

So what would your build be if you don't add INT? 50 DEX/ rest SPR or something?

Btw, that vid shows a lot. INT looks useless in gears.

INT its supposed to be better in free stats, because its auto dmg, according with some old researches (i might do it also when i cap), INT in free stats acts like a extra bonus dmg, ignoring your target mdef, i havent checked it by myself though.

[ale.wilkins]

ive been vacant from my thread for a while again, but it seems like everyone just discusses things among themselves either way xD glad that its helping.

[slappy_d1]

Yeah dont have a question was just readin through. For 1 you're answers are damn near perfect on every question Ive never seen anyone with that much knowledge. Thx for all the info even if I didnt ask. For 2 just noticed u had a link posted as a response so ofc I had to look at it. That PvP video. You are a GOD! I love mage already but I love it so much more watching u take down all those fighters it was insane. I think u took dmg from a fighter what once when u got Tomohawked for a 3k crit? Thats amazing to me lol. Proves u dont even need +9 Gears to be amazing cause a good mage doesnt even get hit lol. Just keep doin what ur doin cause ur the best mage Ive ever seen PvP ^^

[ale.wilkins]

Yeah dont have a question was just readin through. For 1 you're answers are damn near perfect on every question Ive never seen anyone with that much knowledge. Thx for all the info even if I didnt ask. For 2 just noticed u had a link posted as a response so ofc I had to look at it. That PvP video. You are a GOD! I love mage already but I love it so much more watching u take down all those fighters it was insane. I think u took dmg from a fighter what once when u got Tomohawked for a 3k crit? Thats amazing to me lol. Proves u dont even need +9 Gears to be amazing cause a good mage doesnt even get hit lol. Just keep doin what ur doin cause ur the best mage Ive ever seen PvP ^^

Lols thanks for the compliment that means a lot to me. if you have a specific question that wasnt answered in the other postings, then feel free to put it here and ill answer to the best of my ability as well as soon as i can.

[mongrels]

Symph, who would win in a fight, you or Chuck Norris?

And if you answer yes, do you think you could take on Bruce Lee?

dude, I'm a fan of Bruce Lee as well, but you can't have Bruce Lee greater than Chuck Norris, it just doesn't work :P

[Ex.plode]

Is 25spr 25dex rest int or 25dex rest int a good warlock/pvp build, or should I just stick with 25spr/int or full int :c?

[oeternalairo]

Warlock = DD. Singular Damage Concentration
Wizard = AoE. Circular Damage Concentration

Personally I would say other additional stats are somewhat optional and appliable to both. But I prefer Warlock to be going for PvP stats, so int does fine somewhat. But of course, damage is not the only thing mattered in a PvP. Dex/end/int would be my preferred stats, but (25) spr is optional, mainly added for mdef or crit (if you're SC geared, or else it doesn't do much, somewhat)

[LongshotFoxx]

Warlock = DD. Singular Damage Concentration
Wizard = AoE. Circular Damage Concentration

Personally I would say other additional stats are somewhat optional and appliable to both. But I prefer Warlock to be going for PvP stats, so int does fine somewhat. But of course, damage is not the only thing mattered in a PvP. Dex/end/int would be my preferred stats, but (25) spr is optional, mainly added for mdef or crit (if you're SC geared, or else it doesn't do much, somewhat)

Um, let me correct you on that one.

ALL mages are DDers. We are DDers by class, not by build. Fact of life.

Warlock = Single target upgrades, with disablement and ambush/escape skill
Wizard = AoE and MB upgrades, with trump card and maneuvering skill

Both classes can do either PvE or PvP perfectly fine. The only difference right now is skills sets and weapon types. Right now, the only thing needed for PvP is fear and MB. Just spam MB, and you'll be fine.

The only difference is the way either class controls the fight.
Wizard can Ice Field + CC skellies, and it's game over every 5 mins for anyone. Or just CC skellies in a huge melee and confuse the heck out of everyone. Even kite a fighter with blink.

Warlocks can use their disablement skills to aid them. If their round of fear, stifle, and ice field didn't work, they can sleep again until CD's are back. They can also ambush or escape with the bird skill, but only if it's outdoors.

Warlocks are more flexible PvP wise, Wizards are more trump card PvP wise. Both classes are just as good at PvP. Except when pitted against each other. Then the Warlock wins.

As of the current level cap, there just isn't that much difference between the 2 prestiges to say a whole lot. Also, END in mages is useless.

[BloodMage78]

Um, let me correct you on that one.

ALL mages are DDers. We are DDers by class, not by build. Fact of life.


I think that's given lol.


Warlock = Single target upgrades, with disablement and ambush/escape skill
Wizard = AoE and MB upgrades, with trump card and maneuvering skill

Both classes get MB upgrades.


Both classes can do either PvE or PvP perfectly fine. The only difference right now is skills sets and weapon types. Right now, the only thing needed for PvP is fear and MB. Just spam MB, and you'll be fine.

This is why this game isn't skill involved at all. Hai you run with purple smoke and i pewpew you. I personally don't just spam MB cause it just seems as noob as can be.


The only difference is the way either class controls the fight.
Wizard can Ice Field + CC skellies, and it's game over every 5 mins for anyone. Or just CC skellies in a huge melee and confuse the heck out of everyone. Even kite a fighter with blink.

Skeles are way over rated. Yeah their cool to flash around, sure their epic in 1v1 fights. Go use them in any other situation such as a GT or fbz war, their pretty useless.


Warlocks can use their disablement skills to aid them. If their round of fear, stifle, and ice field didn't work, they can sleep again until CD's are back. They can also ambush or escape with the bird skill, but only if it's outdoors.

So far out of every 1v1 I've played on my warlock, I've never slept someone to get cd's back. Sure you can do it, but if someone survives all that skill spam, they've won.


Warlocks are more flexible PvP wise, Wizards are more trump card PvP wise. Both classes are just as good at PvP. Except when pitted against each other. Then the Warlock wins.

Warlocks are probably one of the few classes who can efficiently take on multiple targets in PvP and win. Warlock vs Wizards it's all about who does what and when.


As of the current level cap, there just isn't that much difference between the 2 prestiges to say a whole lot. Also, END in mages is useless.

Ew end mages. I remember this one warlock was full end so he could tank instances. I always ended up pulling aggro off him anyways.

[achickentender]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPYn7lJaXR4



Btw, that vid shows a lot. INT looks useless in gears.

he could have went from a +10 to a +0 staff with same stats and would have did the same thing with single target spells(the dmg doesn't vary much).
this test should have been done in aoes.
int in gears is not useless.
http://i742.photobucket.com/albums/xx65/andrewdoa/heehawtest.jpg

[LongshotFoxx]

I think that's given lol.

For sure. XD



Both classes get MB upgrades.

Yeah, I was just saying that Wizards get MB upgrades too.



This is why this game isn't skill involved at all. Hai you run with purple smoke and i pewpew you. I personally don't just spam MB cause it just seems as noob as can be.

It is pretty noobish, but from what I see, it works. XD
For a PvP Wizard, that's probably all they can do besides summon skellies. A Warlock can intermingle a fully empowered Fire Ball in there and deal some harsh damage. Especially with the inferno set.
Mainly PvP is pretty simple as far as I see it. It's MB spam vs. MB spam with some Fire Balls. Excluding the fear of course. Who wouldn't use that skill in PvP? >.>



Skeles are way over rated. Yeah their cool to flash around, sure their epic in 1v1 fights. Go use them in any other situation such as a GT or fbz war, their pretty useless.

Agreed.



So far out of every 1v1 I've played on my warlock, I've never slept someone to get cd's back. Sure you can do it, but if someone survives all that skill spam, they've won.

True. Very true.



Warlocks are probably one of the few classes who can efficiently take on multiple targets in PvP and win. Warlock vs Wizards it's all about who does what and when.

For sure. Wizards are all about monster pwnage.



Ew end mages.
Ikr?

[ale.wilkins]

to longshotfoxx:

No offense to you at all, but when i see or hear people in game talking about how wizards are all about, how did you say it, ''monster pwnage'' this is the only thing that i think of.

when im dueling a person or even multiple people at once, you are NO DIFFERENT than that wind nephilim that ive been grinding on, or that water alca that could heal itself when its hp got low. as far as im concerned, if i can kill a bunch of monsters at the same time just like any other mage can, i can pvp just as well.

when people say that some skills are ''useless'' they are far from ignorant to the facts of the class, they are closed minded and/or uninformed in general. everything has a use, it just depends on the situation and/or how you put it to use. it comes down to preference and your own playing style as whatever class that you may be that makes you good or bad at pvping or pveing.

ive seen wizards that couldnt pvp worth their life as well as seen warlocks that birded at every mob that they returned becuase they couldnt pve, but that doesnt make them ''a horribly biased class as to what they are MEANT to do.'' play your class like a bowss and thats all that matters.

[Andromeda]

From what Ive seen and experienced Warlocks are still simply better PvErs as well as better PvPers simply because the damage boost gained from Wand over staff is more than enough to cover the AOE skills damage upgrades that only Wizard gets.

Putting it quite simply Warlock is going to remain the better PvE class unless OnsOnSoft make the Wizard AOE upgrades sharply increase in damage or Wizards are thrown into the gutter.

The only advantage Ive really gotten from picking Wizard over Warlock is the line is shorter to get Malephar drops within my guild as there are far more Warlocks than Wizards in my guild probably for this reason.

[LongshotFoxx]

to longshotfoxx:

No offense to you at all, but when i see or hear people in game talking about how wizards are all about, how did you say it, ''monster pwnage'' this is the only thing that i think of.

when im dueling a person or even multiple people at once, you are NO DIFFERENT than that wind nephilim that ive been grinding on, or that water alca that could heal itself when its hp got low. as far as im concerned, if i can kill a bunch of monsters at the same time just like any other mage can, i can pvp just as well.

when people say that some skills are ''useless'' they are far from ignorant to the facts of the class, they are closed minded and/or uninformed in general. everything has a use, it just depends on the situation and/or how you put it to use. it comes down to preference and your own playing style as whatever class that you may be that makes you good or bad at pvping or pveing.

ive seen wizards that couldnt pvp worth their life as well as seen warlocks that birded at every mob that they returned becuase they couldnt pve, but that doesnt make them ''a horribly biased class as to what they are MEANT to do.'' play your class like a bowss and thats all that matters.

Good insight, duly noted. Although the mobs might be harder than others. XD


From what Ive seen and experienced Warlocks are still simply better PvErs as well as better PvPers simply because the damage boost gained from Wand over staff is more than enough to cover the AOE skills damage upgrades that only Wizard gets.

Putting it quite simply Warlock is going to remain the better PvE class unless OnsOnSoft make the Wizard AOE upgrades sharply increase in damage or Wizards are thrown into the gutter.

The only advantage Ive really gotten from picking Wizard over Warlock is the line is shorter to get Malephar drops within my guild as there are far more Warlocks than Wizards in my guild probably for this reason.

You stated your opinion very well, I like it. Although Warlocks may have a higher attack damage, Wizards will probably have greater effects against mobs with increasing tiers of Nova and Inferno. Plus Wizards might be better dungeon mages than Warlocks, given that they would be able to cc skellies and bring extremely significant harm to the boss. Plus Blink allows them to get out of a sticky situation and keep fighting seamlessly. There are different ways of how to use your class.

Just like it's argued who's a better DDer, archer or mage, nuke or DoT, it might be the best damage to combine them both.

I will probably still go Wizard because I like the skills, and my server needs more. I've only seen one Wizard on my server compared to about 10 Warlocks.

Although the effects of both classes may not kick in right now, the difference between both prestiges will grow as the level cap is raised.

[Dthugtherealist]

What Symph said about killing monsters and comparing it to PvP its the same way I am in PvP you are nothing but the boss I farm or wind nephilim/titan I kill to gain exp.

[BloodMage78]

That'd be bamf if you got exp from GT.

[Dthugtherealist]

Do you get KP from GT I forgot lol

[LongshotFoxx]

You get KP from PVP KQs, so I would assume so.

[Dthugtherealist]

PvP Kq and GT are 2 different things PvP kq is a free for all GT is a guild vs guild thing. I just never noticed me getting KP in GT in PvP kq I get at least 5.

[LongshotFoxx]

Yeah, true. I've gotten 16 KP in one KQ though.

[Dthugtherealist]

I said at least 5 which sometimes I can get more 95+ PvP kq people mostly sit around on my server in it so yea not much oportunitys to kill like a mad man.

[LongshotFoxx]

Your PvP players on your server must be smart or at least well educated. None of the weak players on my server ever stay down. They just keep getting back up trying to go for a KS and getting themselves killed. >.<

[Dthugtherealist]

Its a old old old server with alotta history haha and I guess you could call it a PvP server to a degree everybody lvls to PvP farms to PvP drops cash to PvP yea its nuts.

[LongshotFoxx]

Yeah, I'll bet. But it does make sense. Making a PvP based character on Cypion just isn't worth it. When there's a high pop in FBZ1, it's 7 people. Cypion is mainly PvE based right now. But we're getting more PvP people like Eric and Vietree around now that the population is increasing.

[Dthugtherealist]

The character of the server is based on the 10x players the 10x players set the table and more often than not are what the nubs look up too. So my Boy Eric and Vietree won't turn the server into a PvP server if the High lvls are the ones who don't like to PvP them selves.

[ale.wilkins]

From what Ive seen and experienced Warlocks are still simply better PvErs as well as better PvPers simply because the damage boost gained from Wand over staff is more than enough to cover the AOE skills damage upgrades that only Wizard gets.

Putting it quite simply Warlock is going to remain the better PvE class unless OnsOnSoft make the Wizard AOE upgrades sharply increase in damage or Wizards are thrown into the gutter.

The only advantage Ive really gotten from picking Wizard over Warlock is the line is shorter to get Malephar drops within my guild as there are far more Warlocks than Wizards in my guild probably for this reason.

what i bolded is, from what id imagine, seen from your perspective. if you are doing something as insane as olt when you are grinding, it depends on how you pull and the technique that you use. the wand damage is strong, but when you are 70 percent charmed and the mobs will, and i mean.... W I L L die in 2 aoe's, then the damage doesnt matter all that much in pve....unless of course you mob without being charmed when you are grinding, and if you do, my hat goes off to you. lol.

at somewhere like snakes/subs when everything dies very very fast and you only need one mage that is fully scrolled and buffed to mob the whole field, they still die in a nova and an inferno throwing magic burst into the mix. so tbh it doesnt really matter what the damage of a mage is when you mob because if you are charmed and you have good technique you wont die and the mosters will. it really and genuinely is as simple as that lols

[BloodMage78]

Yeah, I'll bet. But it does make sense. Making a PvP based character on Cypion just isn't worth it. When there's a high pop in FBZ1, it's 7 people. Cypion is mainly PvE based right now. But we're getting more PvP people like Eric and Vietree around now that the population is increasing.

Pking isn't PvP.
Fbz on Cyp is empty yes, get to 10x and join GT. That's where all your PvP is going to be.

[LongshotFoxx]

Pking isn't PvP.
Fbz on Cyp is empty yes, get to 10x and join GT. That's where all your PvP is going to be.

True. And yes, I realize that when there's hardly anyone to PvP in FBZ.

[ale.wilkins]

Bump, becuase its not a month yet and i want people to see this thread when they have a question :O!

[LongshotFoxx]

How long does the Ice Field and Electro shock effect last?

Summon lasts a minute, right?

[achickentender]

how do you get a hobby horse pls halp.

[LongshotFoxx]

how do you get a hobby horse pls halp.

Pfft, rofl xD

[excalib0ar]

hi everyone, i was wondering if you use metamorphassi can you fly over obstacles on the ground that you cant walk over?

[jimmy2233]

Welll bro, i just made the move from shaiya over here, ive always used mages as a main char and what not, im not sure if your familiar with shaiya or anything but it is quite different to fiesta! I was just wondering if you could give me any advice on how to run a mage in fiesta, plus does joining an achademy or becoming an apprentice increase my chances of learning things faster! I know how annoying it is having people ask questions all the time but yes i am questing to get the lay of the land as such, just some basic info would be great :)
Cheers mate...

[mr.bo_bo]

idk if this has already been answered yet, but I'm not sure when I should buy a +9. I don't want to buy one only to have to spend hours to try to sell it a couple of days. I'm in the mid 3X right now and leveling is still pretty easy. Should I get a lvl 40 +9 or a lvl 50 +9? Also, what are the average prices for each?

[LongshotFoxx]

hi everyone, i was wondering if you use metamorphassi can you fly over obstacles on the ground that you cant walk over?

Nope.


Welll bro, i just made the move from shaiya over here, ive always used mages as a main char and what not, im not sure if your familiar with shaiya or anything but it is quite different to fiesta! I was just wondering if you could give me any advice on how to run a mage in fiesta, plus does joining an achademy or becoming an apprentice increase my chances of learning things faster! I know how annoying it is having people ask questions all the time but yes i am questing to get the lay of the land as such, just some basic info would be great :)
Cheers mate...

Yes. It also gives you great rewards! Get both an academy and a master.
For mages, just read the link labeled [MAGE] in my siggy.


idk if this has already been answered yet, but I'm not sure when I should buy a +9. I don't want to buy one only to have to spend hours to try to sell it a couple of days. I'm in the mid 3X right now and leveling is still pretty easy. Should I get a lvl 40 +9 or a lvl 50 +9? Also, what are the average prices for each?

Prices depend on your server. +9's aren't absolutely necessary until 60+ imo. You should definitely have a +9/+10 by 70. Although a long way off, save up for it. It'll be awesome.

[mr.bo_bo]

I'm in Teva. Could you get me an accurate price range for a lvl 60 +9 then?