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goozo7
09-02-2010, 11:59 AM
I think mages get ripped off compared too say fighters and clerics. Mages get no stones my friend has a 67 cleric he gets about 200 hp stones and i think 250 sp where I am lvl 62 and i get about 75 to a hundred hp stones ( i really cant remember cause i havent been on in a while) and i get about 125 to 150 sp so unfair. and a fighter has amazing defense and terrible magic defense and we mages have terrible defense but great magic defense but the problem is there is like no magic monsters. thats what i think i'll listen too your comments
ale.wilkins
09-02-2010, 01:39 PM
lol
1o char.
aperturelaboratories
09-02-2010, 01:57 PM
http://www.liquidmatrix.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/facepalm.jpg
soulofdarkness
09-02-2010, 04:44 PM
Mages can shoot death.
Panzehao
09-03-2010, 06:05 PM
when you hit lvl 100 and promate you get like 300hp/sp stones ish. so hold out =X
Zjeff.Jz
09-03-2010, 06:16 PM
i don't see a lvl 62 char...
xogeley
09-03-2010, 06:49 PM
70 to a hundred at 62? Aw no fair I still have 70 at level 79 ): OS ripped me off
Panzehao
09-03-2010, 07:03 PM
i'm almost 100% sure you stuck with 70-72 hp stone till lvl 100 then you jump to 300ish
xogeley
09-03-2010, 08:10 PM
Archers are jipped too, they stick with around 120 hp/sp until 100. Difference is they're forced to solo. The average mage doesn't have to rs every 30 minutes.
darknightofwind
09-03-2010, 11:23 PM
Mages can also life tap and get free sp that way.. so you're basically only limited by a clerics ability to heal if you're partied. :P
goozo7
09-21-2010, 07:31 PM
i dont know exactly how many sp but i always know hp cause i get like none but still its a comparison
LongshotFoxx
09-21-2010, 07:47 PM
I think mages get ripped off compared too say fighters and clerics. Mages get no stones my friend has a 67 cleric he gets about 200 hp stones and i think 250 sp where I am lvl 62 and i get about 75 to a hundred hp stones ( i really cant remember cause i havent been on in a while) and i get about 125 to 150 sp so unfair. and a fighter has amazing defense and terrible magic defense and we mages have terrible defense but great magic defense but the problem is there is like no magic monsters. thats what i think i'll listen too your comments
One thing about the clerics is this:
Because they are essentially the center of any and all parties, it makes sense that they need to have more fuel than the other party members. Not only are they trying to stay alive, they're also keeping the party members alive as well. Although mages have less HP and SP stones, you can still use Life Tap. This ends up increasing your SP efficiency to 50% at least if you haven't put 5 into CD on it. I put 5 into CD, and whenever I have a healing clerics grinding with me, I use no SP stones or HP stones.
Btw, if you think mages are ripped off, consider this:
The skills that a fighter has takes about the same amount of SP that a mage skill does at the same level. Maybe more.
Fighters have a LOT less SP than mages.
Say a fighter and mage are level 30, for instance. The mage has about 900 SP. The fighter has about 300. (I think, haven't played my fighter in a while, lol). Now get this. The mage has, say, 50 SP stones. The fighter has something like 25.
It could be summed up in this equation.
0.5 * 0.33 = 0.165
Fighters have a SP stone efficiency of 16.5% compared to mages. THIS, is a rip-off, my friend. Not only that, but if fighters solo, they are using HP stones constantly. Whereas mages kill their opponent before it even reaches them, considering both are fighting a melee monster. I'm not even going to bother to calculate. I believe I've made my point clear.
Fighters are the ones getting ripped off. But, they kinda deserve it cuz they can kill pretty much anything XP. Kinda, though, not totally. It's still a huge rip-off stone wise.
Anyways, hope this helps on seeing who is actually getting ripped off with the stones in this game.
PS: I think archers have the same amount of stones as mages, I'll have to check. I'll edit this when I find out. Therefore, if you think about it, mages have a standard amount of HP and SP stones.
bad_boiolly
10-08-2010, 03:31 AM
You get 72 form level 70-100 but its not to bad as everything your attacking should be dead before it touches you. And if your in a party it should be the tank and cleric that stop you needing to use them (providing you use life tap).
Also your level 55 not 62 as you described above^^
ieli.1
10-14-2010, 09:26 PM
Hey I know this person in RL lol.He complains a lot.
squirrelbuddy
10-28-2010, 02:33 AM
It really doesn't matter how many stones you can hold though.....the money spent is the same. i.e. If I can hold 70 stones of some kind and I use them it will cost me the same as if I could hold 100 of a stone and still used 70 of those stones......Either way I'm spending the same amount.
ontslaan
10-29-2010, 03:05 PM
Considering Mages and Archers just got a huge boost in stone count recently, there really isn't any reason to be complaining...
And I agree with life tap--
Seems to be a useless skill soloing, but in a party, theoretically, you don't have to use Sp or Hp stones at all. And it is also cheaper to fill a small tank on a Honda Civic then it is a huge SUV's tank.. (fail comparison).
Just try harder to find more parties with clerics or fighters, or Marry a cleric yourself.