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VancouverCanucks_Fan
12-02-2007, 11:22 AM
I'm new to this game and i'm probably wrong, but aren't they useless? I was just thinking, if someone needs a heal they can use hp stones. What are they for?

EDIT: I didn't mean to disrespect clerics, and I worded this VERY BADLY!!!!!

MissusDolly
12-02-2007, 11:25 AM
It makes it cheaper for a party to have a cleric because they can heal when you don't hae hp pots. They can revive people, add buffs. They are essential to any party. A must in this game to be able to save money.
-Dolly

runkler
12-02-2007, 11:26 AM
I'm new to this game and i'm probably wrong, but aren't they useless? I was just thinking, if someone needs a heal they can use hp stones. What are they for?
#1. who do u think you are?
#2. we save u on ur stones
#3. we buff u
#4. we can rez u when your down
#5. we are very helpful maybe u should party with a cleric they provid healing for the WHOLE party so quit dising!

Trashknight
12-02-2007, 11:27 AM
Endure is SO useless... No one likes Invincible, clerics can't solo at all. They need parties to stay alive, otherwise they are useless. ^_^'

*Whacks himself*

runkler
12-02-2007, 11:29 AM
Endure is SO useless... No one likes Invincible, clerics can't solo at all. They need parties to stay alive, otherwise they are useless. ^_^'

*Whacks himself*
there is something wrong with u people im leaving!

Trashknight
12-02-2007, 11:32 AM
there is something wrong with u people im leaving!

There is something called sarcasm. Just look at my sig and tell me I don't like high clerics.

Trebori
12-02-2007, 11:42 AM
I'm new to this game and i'm probably wrong, but aren't they useless? I was just thinking, if someone needs a heal they can use hp stones. What are they for?


This is a bad joke right?

Please tell me you aren't serious.

Janger
12-02-2007, 11:47 AM
i totally agree with you!
1. you are new to this game!
2. you are wrong!

:D

Driftlock
12-02-2007, 12:06 PM
This is a bad joke right?

Please tell me you aren't serious.

If he is serious, I sincerely hope he makes it as a Fighter or something to the CP or Uruga level of play...gets into an AoE group and doesn't grab a cleric. Let's see the stones keep him alive. Rofl.

Scarlets
12-02-2007, 01:19 PM
No, clerics aren't useless. A stone's cooldown is slower than a cleric's heal. At times, you can get mobbed by 324380934 monsters at once and you can't survive without a cleric's heals. Then again, if you chose to be in a spawn point where the mobs can gang bang you, you would have brought a cleric along would you?

As you are still new to this game, I'm guessing you haven't reached the point where mobs are aggressive yet, no? So you probably wouldn't know.

A cleric that doesn't heal/buff their party when needed is useless though. ^^;

Mikka_
12-02-2007, 01:32 PM
Have you been in a kq without any clerics? It's fun =]
clerics are for healing, buffing, and reviving people.

Nickthehero
12-02-2007, 01:51 PM
Clerics are not useless at all, o_O, since they can heal you and revive you and they look cool like mages lol. By the way I got a lvl 21 wizmage on apoline i'm new. Planning to make a cleric in the future.

Nerria
12-02-2007, 02:48 PM
What a bunch of jerks. >_>

He is obviously new to an MMO scene and hasn't seen the small capabilities a HP Stone will have in the future. You cannot play efficiently without a cleric to heal. Healing Stones/Pots get 'very' expensive mid-game and you need to use a load per fight.

Having a Cleric who can spam heal and only use 1 stone every few minutes is much easier on everyone. Just don't expect them to always land a heal - use your hp stones/pots wisely in a group situation if you think the Cleric cannot get a heal on you fast enough.

That said it wasn't worded that bad, should have just put "I'm new" so these people wouldn't jump the gun and assume you're a Cleric-Hater since we get a lot of that already. Although they shouldn't have done that anyways... it just shows how sad they are.

waindeer978
12-02-2007, 02:54 PM
first of all... im a cleric
second of all... they CAN go solo and dont die easily
third of all... we can buff pple
fourth... we heal
fifth... we rez u when u die
AND LASTLY WE ARE AWESOME AND NOT USELESS

Michaelus1
12-02-2007, 03:18 PM
God has gave you common sense and life. Use it...LOL

viperdragon
12-02-2007, 05:22 PM
i have to ask, what made you think clerics are useless......did some other game make you think this?

in all mmorpgs i've played, even in console rpgs, cleric/healers are like the backbone to a party/group, true they may not do as much dmg but cleric can stay alive alot easier then any other class, though in some mmorpg thats not always true......

one thing i like when i started a cleric, i never once had to ask for a party in KQ lol, i get picked for party very fast :P

zilie
12-02-2007, 10:05 PM
yes ur right! clerics are useless!! i agree! they can't kill a slime! dun make a cleric please. u'll make cleric's equipments high in demand and becomes even more expensive for me. Searching for parties will be harder for me too. xD

Gravvi
12-02-2007, 10:30 PM
ok just put it simple there are games where healers are useless like Ragnarok ONline. LOL You don't need a priest because all they do is heal. They do have buffs but they don't last but like 3 min. THis game the buffs lasts and hour and without clerics i wouldn't be lvl 41. I am a lvl 41 cleric lol.

Kholai
12-03-2007, 02:37 AM
Clerics bear many, many advantages over stoning.

#1: Heal. For 4 SP, a cleric can restore 110 HP. At maximum level, Heal restores less than a tier 3 health potion, which restores 1300 HP, and costs anywhere from 300-500 copper per potion, and has a four second cooldown or more. The rub is that a maximum level heal costs the cleric 68 SP, restores 1100 HP per use, and has a 2.1 second cooldown, almost twice as fast, and obscenely cheap.
Against any boss, mob (when monsters aggro, situations where a large number of enemies are targetting a character arise frequently), or epicly high damage enemy that outlevels you massively, combined stones and potions will frequently not restore enough HP to keep you alive. Only a cleric, or perhaps two clerics, will be able to keep you alive.

#2: Party Buffs. No party is complete without a cleric. Obviously, heal is the primary reason, but from level 9 upwards, merely by being in the party, the cleric is boosting the attack power and defence of every single member of the party, merely by being there. This bonus increases for each member, such that a full five person squad at low levels is gaining more benefit from the cleric than they are from their own weapons. With maximum level Protect and Resist active and a full party, you'll take a hundred damage less from some enemies, whilst dealing an extra 50 damage on every single hit.

#3: Endure Buff. The most famous part of being a high level cleric: Endure. Add 410 HP, 390 SP to the maximum HP/SP of a single person for an hour. The difference between being able to beat an enemy and to be one-shotted by them. Fight longer, need to rest less, tank bosses like you couldn't before. Endure is god and win. People hunt down clerics in the middle of nowhere to ask for it.

#4: And the rest. Clerics can cure almost every DoT debuff there is, make you invincible, and unleash more healing power over a five second period than is reasonably fair. They can tank like a fighter, they can help with the damage. Until level 59, they're pretty much awesome in every way, you'll always want a cleric in your group, cause they rock.

Ryokosha
12-03-2007, 05:04 AM
No, clerics aren't useless. A stone's cooldown is slower than a cleric's heal. At times, you can get mobbed by 324380934 monsters at once and you can't survive without a cleric's heals.
If you get mobbed by this many not even 10 clerics make you survive, though.

GuitarPlayer
12-03-2007, 05:35 AM
try having a party without cleric and go fight bosses.think be4 u post:mad:

moonshadow6625
12-03-2007, 05:49 AM
clerics can raise you from the dead and put buffs on so they aren't useless,besides what if your fighting a boss and you can't use your stones and pots fast enough.

Jhanniss
12-03-2007, 06:46 AM
Try spending 110+ copper per HP stone after level 50... then we'll see how useless clerics are. :P

And the last time I checked, there weren't any non-clerical revive scrolls roaming around.

creepycrawlie
12-03-2007, 06:53 AM
A cleric that doesn't heal/buff their party when needed is useless though. ^^;

Yea that's pretty annoying.

Nickthehero
12-03-2007, 09:16 AM
CLERICS WILL RULE THE GAME ONE DAY XD Just made a new cleric and he's almsot lvl 10, i'm having great fun grinding and healing people with him lol. Got a question, for the empower party skills like resist etc. Does it only work for a party or can you use it on yourself too? o_o

SweetLavender
12-03-2007, 09:22 AM
CLERICS WILL RULE THE GAME ONE DAY XD Just made a new cleric and he's almsot lvl 10, i'm having great fun grinding and healing people with him lol. Got a question, for the empower party skills like resist etc. Does it only work for a party or can you use it on yourself too? o_o

You can use it on yourself as well.

And yeah, try partying with a cleric and tell that cleric not to heal or buff you and see how well you do. I'd like to see the results ^.^. I think the clerics play an important role in the game as well as the other classes.

wayward711
12-03-2007, 09:32 AM
um what lv ARE YOU?...
it's pretty obvious that you are not fighting anything stronger than a boar or ratman...
please gain exp and explore other areas than forest of mist...
when you (if you) are lucky to gain your lv20 title..you will have to fight yourself..
you will come to LOVE having a cleric as a teammate




PuffDaMagic Lv30+ Cleric....teva

Trashknight
12-03-2007, 09:36 AM
Got a question, for the empower party skills like resist etc. Does it only work for a party or can you use it on yourself too? o_o

I pray you meant party-buffs and not adding empowerment points in those.^_^'

All Cleric buffs can be used on the cleric/High Cleric itself, except Revive and the Sacrifical skill.

Nickthehero
12-03-2007, 10:00 AM
I pray you meant party-buffs and not adding empowerment points in those.^_^'

All Cleric buffs can be used on the cleric/High Cleric itself, except Revive and the Sacrifical skill.

ok lol and i meant party-buffs. For the word empowerment, I meant the extra status empowerment you get from the buffs lol.

emmanuelsimpson
12-03-2007, 10:05 AM
clerics are so good what are i talking bout who ever said clerics suck they dont im saying this cus im a cleric:D

Nickthehero
12-03-2007, 10:08 AM
I always respected clerics when I was playing on my wizmage :D

emmanuelsimpson
12-03-2007, 10:09 AM
hey creepy did ya draw that pic??

emmanuelsimpson
12-03-2007, 10:13 AM
im so bored any 1 else bored
:p

Trashknight
12-03-2007, 10:15 AM
ok lol and i meant party-buffs. For the word empowerment, I meant the extra status empowerment you get from the buffs lol.

Phew.:cool:

Nickthehero
12-03-2007, 10:15 AM
Ya looks like she drew it...Awesome drawing by the way.

Nickthehero
12-03-2007, 10:16 AM
Phew.:cool:

Why were you scared I would mean empowerment lol?:eek::D

Trashknight
12-03-2007, 10:23 AM
Why were you scared I would mean empowerment lol?:eek::D

You would have wasted empowement points on something you only use every 50th minute or so.

Nickthehero
12-03-2007, 10:24 AM
oh ok lol i'm not that crazy...

emmanuelsimpson
12-03-2007, 10:26 AM
u know what sucks that teva is off line 4 some resone

Syrlith
12-05-2007, 04:14 PM
Clerics bear many, many advantages over stoning.




I just have to qoute that out of context.

~~~

Anyway, the one thing that hasn't been said before is that clerics are the only class that can perform random acts of kindness that are not detremental to wallet nor be some form of KSing.

Yoruko
12-05-2007, 04:28 PM
I swear posts like this are just created to stir up the pot or something. It's like a drive by, OP starts a topic then dissappears forever.

TaintedHeir
12-05-2007, 05:35 PM
omg.. this is the greatest thread ever... EVER!!!


fyi... i am useless ;)

Firemind
12-06-2007, 06:28 AM
Oh come on he's wrong that's true but he is a newbie too. Don't be so harsh with him he just asked a question. Besides if he doesn't like clerics that means more clerics for me hehe.

gullebarnet
12-06-2007, 06:37 AM
To answer your question clerics aren't useless, unless you have no problem wasting alot of stones or have a very high level tank in your party.

Kouji423
12-06-2007, 07:13 AM
So What If You've Rez Skill Not As If You'll Rez.

Sadako_Sasaki
12-08-2007, 05:57 AM
Clerics aren't useless. They are VERY useful. Don't belittle them and think of them as nothing. We clerics are, in my opinion, are the best class. True, some clerics DO not heal or rez people when needed, but you shouldn't insult the rest of clerics too.

Kouji423
12-08-2007, 05:58 AM
Can you imagine a kq without mages...Hm..you wouldn't sucess like that
Even with someone who's powerful.Not as if he/she would have unlimited hp.Fighting mara can go on and on without archers and mages fighting.

Sadako_Sasaki
12-08-2007, 05:59 AM
We are talking about clerics here HELLOO. We are NOT talking about mages or whoever.:mad:

Bubblezio
12-08-2007, 06:09 AM
Clerics are very useful. Especially in KQ's. Or even in the upper levels when you're fighting something with a group thats not within your levels. Like level 40s or even 30s heading to Uruga or even AEW. ^^ It's also useful when you have a AOE party where, tanker grabs lots of mobs on him, healers heal, mages/archers run around doing AOE attacks~

Kouji423
12-08-2007, 06:18 AM
Hahahahahahahahahahahhahahaha Very Funny Running?don't Think So...heh Try Asking The Mages Not To Kill And Archers Too Then I Would Like To See If They Sucess Or Not...it'll Be Fun For Sure

Sadako_Sasaki
12-08-2007, 06:27 AM
Of course sure, we can survive without clerics right Henry2? Mages are SO important aren't they? Clerics are just little bugs right, Henry2? Mages call the shots and are the MOST important players. Well, if you think that, I'll say:
YOU ARE WRONG! HENRY2, YOU ARE WRONG! Clerics are supposedly the most important players in Fiesta. Not mages. Sure, mages and other players are important too, BUT mages are DEFINITELY not the most important.
I'm sure I made a most convicing argument. LOL. :D

Kouji423
12-08-2007, 06:32 AM
OKIE DOKIE FINE LETS TRY YOU SOLOING MARA WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN SURVIVE ONE SHOT.Mitsuki1:mad:I HATE YOU.Try marlone too and next time i won't wait for you to level up JIE.:mad::mad:
mad:

asellus
12-08-2007, 06:55 AM
Ow ow people,come on...hes new here (im new here too ^^)...he just ASKED if them are useless ^^``
He probably have come from a rpg online high rate...where you DONT need a healer, because even the hardest bosses, can be easily be defeated solo (nothing then a good equipment and full healing herbs....and them are very easy to get this kind of game ^^)
So calm down everyone...put down your mace and relax,we know cleric/healer are really useful ;) (what? a cleric how looks like a paladin? i DO want /o/ )

Sadako_Sasaki
12-08-2007, 06:59 AM
Argh. Just shut your mouth LP. No point wasting my breath on you. Clerics aren't all that useless. When I get to high levels, example; Level 47, forget about me buffing you with ENDURE. Hmph.:mad:

Kouji423
12-08-2007, 07:00 AM
Then forget me traveling with you.Hmp:mad:

Kouji423
12-08-2007, 07:02 AM
Wait till me get to destroy your job forever MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA



BY THE WAY I'M JUST I NOOB AND JUST REMEMBER THIS I HELP MY SISTER TO PASS THE TEST AND SHE'S MITSUKI SADAKO SASUKE.



I PASSED THE SHADOW TEST USING ALL THE JOB.BLUHHHHH:p:p:p

Sadako_Sasaki
12-08-2007, 07:02 AM
Sadly, I'm only Level 21 at this point and not even CLOSE to leveling.:( I can't do much and am pretty much useless. I guess I'll have to level faster. I'm having problems with my money though...I've got less than a sliver now.:(

Sadako_Sasaki
12-08-2007, 07:03 AM
FYI, Henry2, my name's not SADAKO SASUKE. It's SADAKO SASAKI. Pay more attention loser.

Kouji423
12-08-2007, 07:04 AM
YEAH HAHAHAHAHHA THEN I WON'T TRAVEL WITH YOU SUCIDING BECAUSE OF YOU.Its useless when you save someone's life without having a thank you properly when you die in order to safe him/her.:cool::cool:

Sadako_Sasaki
12-08-2007, 07:04 AM
As if I need you travelling with ME. I can handle PERFECTLY by MYSELF.

Kouji423
12-08-2007, 07:05 AM
YEAH HAHAHAHAHHA THEN I WON'T TRAVEL WITH YOU SUCIDING BECAUSE OF YOU.Its useless when you save someone's life without having a thank you properly when you die in order to save him/her.:cool::cool:

darknessprevails
12-08-2007, 07:29 AM
hello i am an archer on the teva server. clerics are far from useless. i envy clerics for there healing abilites. in truth i would be one too if i had enough coordination to heal myself and others in a large battle. i would also like to thank any clerics that have healed my player. his name is JASNH. i will always be an allie of the clerics. just contact me on the game if you ever need anything. i will do my best to help.

Kouji423
12-08-2007, 07:52 AM
Yeah like you would want to sacrifice yourself for a cleric?I did.:D:D:D:D

Asheer
12-08-2007, 08:32 AM
Arent cleric useless? :confused::confused:

That could ask only a newbie, or trully someone who play a rpg's where crossclass is possible.

Anyway what i observed is slight too big overconfidence about clerics skills.
I am fighter but couple of times i watch a cleric who rusch agains group of monsters and final was easy to predict...

Sometimes monster can afflict +50 and more damage in one hit (B.H, M.T, not to mention higest lvl areas), and when attack a large group then even a high skilled cleric have no chance.

Thats i cannot understand when for example lvl 15 cleric go to B.H and engage a group of gold slimes only to be "grounded" by them 5 min later.
Every skills have a limit, like anciet sentence say:

"Nec Hercules contro plures" :D ( Even Hercules a** agains mob mass.)

Who was Hercules i dont need to explain (i hope):rolleyes:

darknessprevails
12-08-2007, 10:32 AM
yes i would. and i have.

darknessprevails
12-08-2007, 11:09 AM
Yeah like you would want to sacrifice yourself for a cleric?I did.:D:D:D:D
dude i came in peace to support the clerics when i'm not even a cleric. why insult me?

Kouji423
12-08-2007, 08:10 PM
I have just created a cleric.Now i'm trying to train him he gets alot of money compared to a mage but kills slower than a mage.Its good to have a cleric.:):):o:)

Kouji423
12-08-2007, 08:14 PM
Actually a cleric is much much much better than a fighter...:D:D:D:D

Yasuaki_Kun
12-08-2007, 09:21 PM
Actually a cleric is much much much better than a fighter...:D:D:D:D

meh. i love to duo with a mage or fighter. solo'ing as a cleric takes a LONG time once you hit mid 30's. once you hit 40 you want a party or it will take you way to long to level.

Aer_Mateo
12-08-2007, 10:27 PM
Clerics are not useless, they are the biggest essential backbone. Now I'm an archer because I like them better but thats besides the case.

In the Pirate KQ, I was actually in a group of 15 people none clerics. We reached to the first fake Mara and Marlone. We took out Marlone and lost 5 people(both hearts gone) We passed Mara then just tryed to complete the quest. Apparently it was also everyones first time not fighting the fake Mara and when we reached the end we lost another 3 people and another 2 quiting. We made it back to Mara and we all died.

Now that would've been completely different with a cleric believe me. And I don't really want to go to what would've happened with a cleric, but if you ever played that KQ you would know.

xieda3
12-09-2007, 12:01 AM
Clerics are probably the second most popular class, next to fighters, they are everywhere

If clerics had a ranged attack, we wouldnt need any of the other classes

lightningmystix
12-09-2007, 12:12 AM
Xieda worded it perfectly.

If clerics carried something that could range, everyone would be a cleric ^^"
They solo well and they party well, plus they have the all-essential rez.

DarkAngelTsubasa
12-11-2007, 05:16 AM
Clerics dun only heal... they can fight too!
For goodness sake pls go find out more abt each class b4 putting a very extreme comment anywher.
And stop rebutting ppl who like clerics! Tts their own choice to b one coz they r confident abt cleric abilities. N clerics rock as much as mages =D

Nuruhuine
12-11-2007, 08:47 AM
Kinda funny because you know who goes in the "Clerics" class discussion: CLERICS. I doubt you'd get any answer besides "No", here.

IMO, training DOES suck, but that depends on if you can party well or just solo.

Semaj
12-11-2007, 11:32 AM
leveling solo as a cleric takes FOREVER >.< specially once you hit 40+. i still solo a lot (actually usually) but if i can find a good party im always happy to join. well, outside of guild parties anyways.

Nerria
12-11-2007, 11:38 AM
leveling solo as a cleric takes FOREVER >.< specially once you hit 40+. i still solo a lot (actually usually) but if i can find a good party im always happy to join. well, outside of guild parties anyways.

Once you hit 50 I found solo goes a lot faster, or it seemed to at least. Especially on Orc's with a decent hammer. However, the 40's were indeed hell for me to solo through, and I exclusivly solo. The 50's get you a damage boost, armor boost, and new bash/protect at 51 so it all gets better.

It obviously isn't as fast as a Mage but it is nicely paced and very cheap.

Semaj
12-11-2007, 11:58 AM
nice, im sure 40's would go faster if bleed and trip were actually worth anything >.<
i only use a mace though, the hammer is just to slow for me (and since im not a str build i rely more on crits because i put a lot of points into spr)

catagon
12-11-2007, 12:07 PM
I'm new to this game and i'm probably wrong, but aren't they useless? I was just thinking, if someone needs a heal they can use hp stones. What are they for?

EDIT: I didn't mean to disrespect clerics, and I worded this VERY BADLY!!!!!

hi everyone, sry for rezing, healing, buffing. amd curing you all. It was stupid to do, i wish i wasn't so useless. :p

btw, this thread was a joke right?

Semaj
12-11-2007, 12:09 PM
um, i think the origional poster was serious? maby first time in MMO or a low lv char that hasnt needed to party with a cleric yet.

Nerria
12-11-2007, 01:43 PM
nice, im sure 40's would go faster if bleed and trip were actually worth anything >.<
i only use a mace though, the hammer is just to slow for me (and since im not a str build i rely more on crits because i put a lot of points into spr)

I have no STR points either - or STR gear. So I imagine if you had that solo'ing would be even easier. And yeah - if Bleed/Trip did something other than suck a load of SP to do weak damage, it might be easier on us. Shame they don't work yet...

Panic.Heroine
12-11-2007, 02:04 PM
I was so offended when I read your post! Even though I know you didn't mean it in a bad way...

Clerics provide buffs, heal others AT NO COST XD, can fight fairly well, and can revive people. Furthermore there's a rumor that they can rev themselves at level 60 or 70 O.o

Plus, THEY'RE SO FUN! ;D

Semaj
12-11-2007, 02:22 PM
clerics will never be able to rev them selves, that would just be unfair >.<.

i just want bleed/trip to be worth a damn

Isabelinha
12-11-2007, 03:03 PM
He was just asking a questin, no need to bash him.

Clerics are needed. Thats why i'm one.

End of story

Semaj
12-11-2007, 03:10 PM
i wasnt bashing, i just cant imagine that they would ever do that in this game, it would give the cleric an overly unfair advantage. especially when soloing.

Isabelinha
12-11-2007, 03:15 PM
i wasn't refering to you

Semaj
12-11-2007, 03:18 PM
i wasn't refering to you

oh hehehe....

Summit
12-11-2007, 08:30 PM
Wow you take what one person who kindly asks and turn it into a flame fest whats wrong with people these days WHY is it NOT ONE OF YOU can sincerely answer him he was un sure all you had to do was give him a DIRECT KIND ANSWER not degrate the poor kid....god people.

Now to response no clerics arent useless they can and have many purposes in the game they save money and can serve as off tanks when needed.

Edit : well some have answered nicely and much love to those who have but for the rest...grow up.

DarkAngelTsubasa
12-13-2007, 02:28 AM
depends on wad u like... all 4 classes hav their own unique abilities... they r equally good, depending how u control them, so even if we tell u whether this is gd or that is gd, in the end u stil hav to make a choice on ur own =)

RanmaruX
12-13-2007, 02:33 AM
i totally agree with you!
1. you are new to this game!
2. you are wrong!

:D

Vouch this.

taneeshag
12-13-2007, 02:39 AM
Endure is SO useless... No one likes Invincible, clerics can't solo at all. They need parties to stay alive, otherwise they are useless. ^_^'

*Whacks himself*


not true...i have gone solo quite a bit and am still alive and kicking..lvl 32 cleric baby...the key to staying alive is : cast invincible, then cast restore, use bash repeatedly, heal, restore, bash, stone, repeat...works for me:D

magickingdom
12-13-2007, 02:49 AM
ahemmmm..... this is my first time in forum because i read about this issue " CLerics are useless??.. I think your not thinking.. :p

CLERICS are awesome...

im a clerics 4 days ago... now im lvl 32 because clerics happy to help everyone
ok...

RanmaruX
12-13-2007, 03:03 AM
not true...i have gone solo quite a bit and am still alive and kicking..lvl 32 cleric baby...the key to staying alive is : cast invincible, then cast restore, use bash repeatedly, heal, restore, bash, stone, repeat...works for me:D

Read this...


There is something called sarcasm. Just look at my sig and tell me I don't like high clerics.

DarkAngelTsubasa
12-13-2007, 03:12 AM
If u noe how to solo as a cleric u can actually lvl up very fast... *my opinion*
n i agree wif taneeshag =)

Coz i m cleric n i did tt too =D

Lynxeh
12-13-2007, 03:31 AM
Soloing as a cleric is just a tad slower, do to lower Aim and Str. As for the question 'Aren't clerics useless?' No, we are not. We provide you with an extra boost to your stats which really comes in handy, we heal you when you're busy fighting, we rez you when you die, all we ask for is for you to kill what is needed. We aren't selfish, some of us even sit at maps just waiting for someone to ask for a rez, or buffs. We are essential to any party.

To add to that, if any of you need help with anything or just need a cleric feel free to whisper me. Unless I am busy I will gladly help you out, even newbies. They are the best to help out. :D

~Seijun

Cherushi
12-13-2007, 04:14 AM
*resist*

A lot of people have responded already but I can't help but give you my own opinion too. ^^

clerics aren't useless; having played a mage till late 30s, and comparing it now to cleric, they are very useful when they do their job as healers and are very much welcomed in parties.

The reason for this is that stones and hp pots are designed to be used in emergency cases only thats why it costs a lot. Their slow cooldown makes them ineffective compared to a cleric's heal against monsters that deal lots of damage. the heal of a cleric also upgrades in its skill so it becomes more useful as it can heal more HP with the same cooldown, which 2.1 secs for me since I have it empowered.

Now another use for clerics is the buffs, they make the lives of other players convenient and easy with their buffs! ^^

However, I personally believe the clerics are not the best class, though they are the easiest class to play during solo. But a cleric's job in a party is not so easy :) As for the issues raised on other classes' usefulness, they have their own purpose, and having a party with complete set of classes will always be the best! ^^

Best is relative and dependent on your personal definition. :) So as far as my definition of "Best" (I see it as something "fun") I believe mages are the best class as they are a challenging class to play. ^_^

that's all :D

darknessprevails
12-14-2007, 03:49 PM
OKIE DOKIE FINE LETS TRY YOU SOLOING MARA WHEN YOU CAN'T EVEN SURVIVE ONE SHOT.Mitsuki1:mad:I HATE YOU.Try marlone too and next time i won't wait for you to level up JIE.:mad::mad:
mad:

damdogg cut the guy some slack. ever thing hey maybe he is a noob or something. maybe he was misinformed by someone else. whats up with the hostility?

Hirochihachi
12-14-2007, 04:30 PM
Anyway, the one thing that hasn't been said before is that clerics are the only class that can perform random acts of kindness that are not detremental to wallet nor be some form of KSing.

This was back on page four or so, but warranted a response.

Mages can dispell the annoying travel speed debuff you get as a lower level, as well as the evasive and crit rate debuffs you get as a higher level.

Fighters can stun someone else's mob without stealing their kill credit nor any of their exp. Granted, not many do it (in fact, Redem of Apoline is the only one I've seen do it), but it can be done.

h0b0onsn0w
12-14-2007, 10:01 PM
wow this thread is definitely made by a noob.
1. clerics is best for solo because they do decent damage if u build right, the survive mobs easier than anyother class, makes most money in the game, easiest to lv but longest to lv if solo. ( botters only use clerics)
2. u only have like arround 100 stones at most cleric can heal for infinite times wit the requirement of resting. heal is faster cooldown then hp stones or pots.
3 they can revive so once ur dead u depend on them if u dont want to go back to town and then go all the way back there.
4. who ever says clerics are useless in this game deserves to be shot and have their ***** shove in their mouth and their *** hole super glued to their mouth so they eat wut they *****.

Jehryn
12-15-2007, 05:38 PM
O.o LAWL. This guy isn't thinking straight and obviously doesn't know what he's talking about. Clerics is where its at :D

DeltaKitty
12-15-2007, 06:06 PM
kitty is not useless T~T --sniffle--

Tsuguayme
12-15-2007, 06:21 PM
Hey I am a cleric, I can survive HUUUUGe mobs and kill all the monsters that attacked me. I constantly use bash, restore and heal on myself, along with party buffs like the other people said. Useless? If we're so useless, then don't ask us for a reviving again! Clerics are like the crutch of the party, they hold up the other party members through buffs and heals, revivals too.

Not to say other classes are not as useful, everyone has a weakness that another class fills in, that's the reason for parties. ONe fighter used stun on an enemy, but didn't KS, in Teva, like the other person said. Fighters have amazing attack and defense, and can win huge battles when backed up by clerics, mages and archers. Archers and mages can pull enemies, fire from a distance while a fighter tanks. Mages cast dispel, like the other person said, which clerics can't do. They are capable of dealing massive magic damage

Eheh yah being a cleric in a party is hard, I gotta mind my own hp and sp, while minding other party members HP. It's really hard sometimes.

Celticwatersage
12-15-2007, 07:26 PM
No you guys!
You guys are useful and great!!!:mad:

Manny125
12-15-2007, 07:30 PM
How can you say clerics cant solo, i solo a lot and kill fast, with my +9 weap.

Tsuguayme
12-15-2007, 11:37 PM
I'm new to this game and i'm probably wrong, but aren't they useless? I was just thinking, if someone needs a heal they can use hp stones. What are they for?

EDIT: I didn't mean to disrespect clerics, and I worded this VERY BADLY!!!!!

Ohh it's alright, this was just a big misunderstanding, we're really really sorry. Really sorry!

@Celticwatersage: Yes yes indeed. Ehehe sorry! Really sorry.

kira1211
12-17-2007, 04:09 PM
Without clerics, all the other classes would FALL miserably. We are the backbone of the party, basically. U'll find parties most often shouting to look for clerics. Which I find hilarious XD.
I had a mage and a fighter but decided clerics are better.


HAve you ever seen cleric vs cleric in guild wars? it goes on FOREVER. ><

matty19
12-18-2007, 06:32 AM
u must be a real dumb@ss. the cleric is the backbone of any party without a cleric then u cant go anywhere, once the cleric goes everybody goes down. so my suggestion to u is give clerics more credit then what u already are because one day they could save your life and any exp u might lose.