Farming TM

[Pphedre]

I come from another server. I have had much experience as a character in the 90s and spent a lot of time farming TM.
Here on cypion i've come across an attitude I find just plain silly. There are several characters (obviously old school characters to cyipon) that expect that if one person is in the dungeon TM farming then everyone leave that person alone.

There are several problems with this attitude.
1. Its against TOS to claim an entire map
2. By only one person farming giant caymen at a time you are lowering your drop rate dramatically. Think of him as like a candy machine. You have to get the bad candy to drop to get to the good candy. If only one person is taking candy....well its gonna take a lot longer for the good candy to drop.
3. There is a dramatic shortage of 95 blues on cypion. I blame this attitude. Many people don't bother going, cause they know if 1 person is in there they won't be able to take 1 boss and farm cause of these 'unspoken rules'. That leaves maybe only a handfull of people farming, they end up keeping most of the good stuff for themselves and their guildies so therefore those that don't have time to farm 24 hrs a day have nothing to buy.
4. Sharing in TM actually can be quite fun. You all share info about whats dropped, you all know what each other are looking for. You have fun shouting to each other...get to know new players etc etc.

In short, Cypion is hurting its self by perpetuating this attitude that only 1 person should be farming at a time.
Just so you know guys that belive in this way of farming, im not following it. I will tell you if im there...i will tell you which room im in. I will tell you how many rooms i plan to farm (if someone is in there farming, ill only camp one room to be less of a bother).

Im not trying to cause drama, i have a limited playing time, and im tired of being told that only 1 person farms at a time, and im somehow being disrespectful if i decide to sit in one room and farm a boss.
Maybe this worked when there were only 5 lvl 90s, but its actually really hurting the server now. People WANT to be godly, they want good equips, this way of farming is keeping these equips not only from your eneimes...but from yourself as well.
Just remember, the more giant caymen is killed, the more chance he will drop godlies.

Im sure ill get flamed by old school cypion players for this, im not new to this game in any way. The server i came from, if you tried this, you would be laughed at.
Time to get with the times guys, and SHARE the drops. If someone comes into TM to farm and asks for a room, just be glad they are polite enough to ask (which i will always do).

I won't bother to identify who i am, cause i already know that im gonna be harassed for suggesting this. So im not gonna make it easy for you to harass me lol.

[caitcouldchoke]

I don't know why you would be harassed for suggesting this.
If you are harassed, I guess it would be by the douches that like to claim the entire map.

I agree with you, and I've always hated when people thought they could take all the TM bosses.
But if you try to take one, whether it's for a quest or just to farm, people like to show how big their e-peen is by KS'ing your kill and/or bringing other guildies for a war.

[BloodMage78]

Yeah people don't even like sharing 1 Caimen.
I've had drama trying to farm just one of the 5 in there.

I always let people come in to share. Well when i farmed there. Now eff that, it's redic. Kallaps are more fun <3

[LongshotFoxx]

Good analogy with point #2. Helps for small rep drops too.

Another lesson of Fiesta learned. Thanks for comparing the different servers.

[phreakshot]

My archer and his lower damage couldn't do much about it, but fighter gets to 90, I won't be following this so-called unspoken rule of "only 1 farming boss at a time" ;>

[omni.knight]

It's not AGAINST ToS to claim a map, OS just doesn't care if you say "I claimed the map"

As long as you have agro 1st, they can't KS you unless they wanna get banned. That's that.

[Pphedre]

actually OS does care if you claim a map. I already know of someone who recieved a 3 day ban for saying exactly that.
This map is mine.
On my old sever, warring guilds used to report each other all the time for saying things like 'this is my room' or 'this is my spot' and people would get banned.

So map claimers beware :)

[JOHNNYPOOPOOPANTS]

actually OS does care if you claim a map. I already know of someone who recieved a 3 day ban for saying exactly that.
This map is mine.
On my old sever, warring guilds used to report each other all the time for saying things like 'this is my room' or 'this is my spot' and people would get banned.

So map claimers beware :)

Cypion is a relatively peaceful and easygoing server. If you want to being that attitude from other servers here, you'll be hated by a lot of people.

Some dude from Apoline made a 36 PKer and called me out. I went and destroyed him after he talked sh*t and he hasn't logged on since.

So please, don't start drama. >.<

[Pphedre]

Im only saying if you tell me that i can't come onto a map cause its 'yours' im gonna do something about it, cause THAT attitude is NOT peaceful, or welcoming.....its actually quite greedy and not what cypion is supose to be like

also that kinda sounded like you're one of the people that are gonna harrass me for wanting to farm 1 boss....like seriously that story...was that threat that you're gonna some how make me not log on....and you don't want ME causing drama?
That reply was pure drama.

[BloodMage78]

Cypion is a relatively peaceful and easygoing server. If you want to being that attitude from other servers here, you'll be hated by a lot of people.

Some dude from Apoline made a 36 PKer and called me out. I went and destroyed him after he talked sh*t and he hasn't logged on since.

So please, don't start drama. >.<

It's not so much peaceful/easygoing as it is empty.
And what attitude? Sharing? I came from Apo and people shared bosses too. I mean there's like 5 bosses in one map. So that's enough for 5 parties to farm. ^^

She's not starting drama, she's trying to teach people to share; you know, that thing we all learned in preschool. ;D.

[phreakshot]

Kind of wondering about that "attitude" myself. It seemingly comes across as if it's OK for people (and certain few at that) who usually claim whole maps because that's the way it's always been... and if it's not it's or else. :s

[BloodMage78]

I got threatened once cause I killed one, yeah one caimen. Said they were gunna ks my guild or somethin like that.

[dance99]

WOW lol..1 person farm 5 bosses? thats very stupid ._. In Teva, if you're in a room in TM (one room) then we would respect that and gladly wait until that person is finished without the person having to say "this room is mine!" xD...andd i agree when u say that u get to know ppl and chat to them and talk abt ur drops..but 1 person farming 5 bosses is dumb :o

[caitcouldchoke]

Cypion is a relatively peaceful and easygoing server. If you want to being that attitude from other servers here, you'll be hated by a lot of people.

Some dude from Apoline made a 36 PKer and called me out. I went and destroyed him after he talked sh*t and he hasn't logged on since.

So please, don't start drama. >.<

What chu talkin' 'bout, Willis?
This person is trying to lessen the drama.

[leobaloy]

I farm 3 rooms at once on my archer :>

Pull a boss in room A, take it to the next room (room B) while kiting, and etc.

[caitcouldchoke]

GTFO, TM BOSS HOGGER.




jk i think ur really kewl qq

[032210bt02]

i also agree with her ive been playing fiesta for over 3 yrs and on bijou.. if u hogged an entire map.. well u wuldnt last 5 seconds lol.. take a room camp in it.. let others farm and if there are spare rooms tht are not occupied then take it xDD seems kinda retarted to hog an entire map lol its bad for drop rate and its bad for the entire server..
for instance if i was a new player to the game and herd about this whole map clamining thing.. i wuld del my character and move to another server
share and share alike i say xDD let everyone have an equal chance to farm espcially being a new server theres alot of godly stuff still out there for anyone to claim xD

[Pphedre]

you know whats interesting, ever since i posted this more people have been in farming TM, one person i know found godly shout pants 3 4x stats!!!
Keep it up guys! we need the equips!!!!!
and thanks for the support <3

[feng789]

lol.

Offtopic: is TM fixed? i mean from those laplans and the spawn bugz

[amilcar46]

i also agree with her ive been playing fiesta for over 3 yrs and on bijou.. if u hogged an entire map.. well u wuldnt last 5 seconds lol.. take a room camp in it.. let others farm and if there are spare rooms tht are not occupied then take it xDD seems kinda retarted to hog an entire map lol its bad for drop rate and its bad for the entire server..
for instance if i was a new player to the game and herd about this whole map clamining thing.. i wuld del my character and move to another server
share and share alike i say xDD let everyone have an equal chance to farm espcially being a new server theres alot of godly stuff still out there for anyone to claim xD

well for those who don't know me HI and those who do hi,hi lol I farm TM ALOT and I mean ALOT if you can kill 5 caymens why not? ever since I have been playing this game on this server I have gotten to know many farmers and got along with them just fine.Never had a problem..well maybe a few but mostly do to some pesky ppl but ehh no need for drama, my thought of this "SPOT CLAIMING" is hey when you doing something you don't like to be bothered right? why bother someone else? Now farming for a extensive amount of time without giving someone a chance can be a problem. I farm and sell gear and am sure i have seen my fair share of players take ckl for hours i never say anything just wait for my turn try doing the same lol.For the players that came from a different servers i view it this way "Don't mess my sweet home up" I agree with eric am too use to cypion don't change it to fit it to your likeing.

[DarkZombie]

Well my view of this is...
From ages in cypion, we have had this silent rule of if 1 person in tm is farming then leave em farm, I myself always have shared with archers mages...

This is mostly a Farmer's rule in cypion ... we dont mess with others farming because we like being left alone from others farmers...(this is what made us so different from other servers whilst they had drama over spot we KINDLY leave the spots to the persons that were there and wait our turn)

But also in this hidden rule is that you dont ask for em if you HAVE to leave, u just leave or asked how long they were going to be there... so its wasnt spot claiming, its common courtesy by farmers...
Also if a farmer was in TM and a random persons ask for share or help, you as a farmer say yes, unless u leaving soon and ask them IF kindly can wait till then...<- so far this is the good part of the rule...

As i see, farming in TM has changed alot from the old "1 person in map farming" rule that everyone liked, to the new "THIS IS MY MAP GTFO" .

My point is that the rule is fine, however the new farmers that have get to TM farming have ABUSED this rule and changed it to their liking to spot claiming...
And i as an old farmer(who has pretty much quit) im pissed off because this is not why we made that rule long time ago, and its being used in a way that us old farmers that put em into practice look like jerks lol

So i think everyone should farm, the rule in its very core has been broken already by these new farmers, so no need to respect it.

-iHotBrother

[citcat21]

There used to hardly be anyone farming in TM and waiting your turn was fine 90% of farmers kill faster than the spawn rate so it's not like bosses are getting missed there are plenty of 95 blues out there cypion is just cursed with the worse drop rate ever.

I haven't been in farming lately but honestly we all try and take our turns. Sucks when u have a nice farming rhythm and someone comes in and insterrupts it when u were leaving in 10 minutes anyway....

This is kind of tradition more than anything and as iHot said if u need a quest or something or really wanted to farm the farmers would accommodate that. Share the bosses 3 and 2 and or party the person that needed the quest. Now i know there are some that aren't so courteous and well i just generally treat people how i want to be treated or on the backside how they have treated me.

[seredh]

well for those who don't know me HI and those who do hi,hi lol I farm TM ALOT and I mean ALOT if you can kill 5 caymens why not? ever since I have been playing this game on this server I have gotten to know many farmers and got along with them just fine.Never had a problem..well maybe a few but mostly do to some pesky ppl but ehh no need for drama, my thought of this "SPOT CLAIMING" is hey when you doing something you don't like to be bothered right? why bother someone else? Now farming for a extensive amount of time without giving someone a chance can be a problem. I farm and sell gear and am sure i have seen my fair share of players take ckl for hours i never say anything just wait for my turn try doing the same lol.For the players that came from a different servers i view it this way "Don't mess my sweet home up" I agree with eric am too use to cypion don't change it to fit it to your likeing.

Word.

I've never seen drama over TM, and it's VERY easy for one person to kill all five Caimans before the first one spawns again, so it's not really lowering our drop rate.

So yeah. No need to manufacture drama where drama does not exist.

[caitcouldchoke]

I've never seen drama over TM
What? o:
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard!
Maybe you're just lucky enough to miss it.

[kevin27988]

Honestly if a farmer charms to farm and can kill all the bosses quicker then the respawn rate(i no some dont need too) then is this not improving our chances of getting better blues?

Its simple..... MORE KILLS = MORE DROPS?

and dont say boooo high lvls farm it they have crap drop rate.... my mage is 106 and i was messing round in there the other day and got 47 end 43 dex cross boots in like 5 kills and got 2 other blues with failed stats

if u have some of these not so good party in there and they take 10 mins to kill it then isnt this messing up our drop rate?

Just my opinion.... ihotbrother ur right... people are jerks and spot claim....

Its like snakes.... yes i am slightly mean and dont let others in my party but GUESS WHAT i dont need help and want the max exp possible.... i dont mind if people take 3 off to the side just want people to understand thats 100k per pull i loss... thats 6 mill exp an hour... thats .5% at my lvl..... ok its not much but all of a sudden i loss 2 groups of snakes...200k a pull.... 12 mill an hour.... 1% and when im only getting 4% it starts becoming quite alot..... i dont like people leeching off my charms..... i work extremely hard to get where i am and im sick to death of these noobs that cant level themselves and have to get help from others to lvl...... when i was 9x i solo grinded in TM for like 2% an hour so dont moan.... ive been there i no what its like...... man up and get over it and the more time u spend lvling and the less time u spend whinning the more u might find u actually lvl!

[zonyy76]

First Of I have been on cypion for a long time myself. I have Been in TM when ranting wars about farming have been happening. its rather sad that there are a few out there who think they have the right to tell others what and when they can do something. wars don't solve the problem but compound it. and as for this elitist attitude. it is up to the people who are on the receiving end of it to stand up and make the difference. screen shots and send in tags. ok maybe they wont get in trouble but if enough people send in tags on these offenders and we all know who you are. OS will in turn will have to take care of the situation. For the most part we have a good community in Cypion, but there are the ego loving pixel bullies that try to ruin it for others. DON"T LET THEM take a stand don't spam them with shouts and empty threats. just get a screen shot of the the things they are saying and collect the information and send it in . and if its kill stealing get yourself a program to record the issue and send that in. I have a screen shot and recording program on hot keys just for this reason. Do the same. if we dont police our community then OS will only have hear say and nothing will get resolved. And for those of you that are the ones doing and acting this way your time will come and all the little pixel money you have made will be for nothing. Greed does Kill look at King Richard.

[BloodMage78]

Hai!
I'm level 1, if I charm can i farm every single slime in roumen?
I hear they drop orange rings, I need to test this.

[JOHNNYPOOPOOPANTS]

I was going to share more of what I thought about this, and even typed a whole paragraph, but deleted it instead because someone wouldn't agree with it.

[kevin27988]

Hai!
I'm level 1, if I charm can i farm every single slime in roumen?
I hear they drop orange rings, I need to test this.


Its a shame u cant sucide to stay lvl 1 forever :D

[caitcouldchoke]

Yeah, yeah, more kills for more drops.
Whatever.
I have 2 problems with someone taking all of TM.
There are many farmers who farm solely for their guild, meaning if they get to farm TM all of the time without letting anyone else farm, only a select few get to buy those decent drops the farmer might get.
Also, there are some people who cannot afford to buy a nice 95 set and would like to farm their own pieces, but then again, there's the issue of someone possibly not letting others farm while they're there.
Only recently have I come across someone willing to share the TM bosses, and I was thankful for it.
That was the first time since last year that someone outside of my guild didn't ***** at me for asking if I could have a boss or 2.
Seriously, just share.
Don't be a ******, or I'll just take a boss anyway.
Go ahead and war, I'm in an acad anyway. c:

Also. KEVIN! <3

[amilcar46]

Yeah, yeah, more kills for more drops.
Whatever.
I have 2 problems with someone taking all of TM.
There are many farmers who farm solely for their guild, meaning if they get to farm TM all of the time without letting anyone else farm, only a select few get to buy those decent drops the farmer might get.
Also, there are some people who cannot afford to buy a nice 95 set and would like to farm their own pieces, but then again, there's the issue of someone possibly not letting others farm while they're there.
Only recently have I come across someone willing to share the TM bosses, and I was thankful for it.
That was the first time since last year that someone outside of my guild didn't ***** at me for asking if I could have a boss or 2.
Seriously, just share.
Don't be a ******, or I'll just take a boss anyway.
Go ahead and war, I'm in an acad anyway. c:

Also. KEVIN! <3

Well coca ofc you will sell the godly's to your guild and frineds but that cant be blamed on anyone.As for the drama there is some but noting gets to out of hand.that whole sharing part humm idk if the farmer is willing sure if not wait your turn lol god knows i do but so does the rest of the farmers as for the whole give or i take idk thats not the kind of attitude am use to for Tm we have all respected each other's farming time and i yet to complain about anyone "only caymen's drop rate"

p.s kevin dont D/C next tourney i wanna hug juuu!!!

[kevin27988]

p.s kevin dont D/C next tourney i wanna hug juuu!!!

I was upset..... for a week i was god agaisnt fighters cause they couldnt stack and wat happens i DC :(

coax <3..... wanna no something interesting... those that cant afford godly gear arre mostly not gonna be able to +9 it or find an enchaner to +9 it for them.... so its a waste of godly gear! lol just my opinion..... lol.....

Ive never really farmed Caymen for blues .... the odd hour or 2 here and there......but on my mage i always farmed the halls and still kinda do for t5 scroll mats..... so i cant really say much.... but those times i did farm i managed to kill the 5th one b4 the 1st reset..... how is this differant to GGK in CP...... in the spot where there is only 2.... only 1 person farms there? Ok there is other GGK's in CP but those other ones are sooo much harder to kill ><

[helakity]

I have shared, been shared with, and I have waited my turn. It depends on who is there at the time and how they have treated me or my guild in the past. Honestly I don't remember any trouble in TM because I don't make trouble. We are taught from an early age to share with others...it applies here.

[seredh]

I was going to share more of what I thought about this, and even typed a whole paragraph, but deleted it instead because someone wouldn't agree with it.

I want to put that in my signature.

[JOHNNYPOOPOOPANTS]

I want to put that in my signature.

You can if you want.

[Ex.plode]

I claim Cypions TM, even though im from Teva.

What am I going to do about it...?


nothing :C

[JOHNNYPOOPOOPANTS]

I claim Cypions TM, even though im from Teva.

What am I going to do about it...?


nothing :C

Then I'm log on my 45 archer on Teva and claim your dead body. :D

[RyaikenDune]

how is this differant to GGK in CP...... in the spot where there is only 2.... only 1 person farms there? Ok there is other GGK's in CP but those other ones are sooo much harder to kill ><

http://i53.tinypic.com/28qyd7o.jpg

So ghost and I shouldn't have taken every GGK on the map? =P.
Shoulda screenied the spam whispers and threats I got from the farmers there....

<3 Cypion.

[citcat21]

that my friend is epic

[zombiedawl]

So ghost and I shouldn't have taken every GGK on the map? =P.
Shoulda screenied the spam whispers and threats I got from the farmers there....

<3 Cypion.

I remember that. D: You died with two GGKs and they went onto my fighter rofl. (And no I wasn't one of the fighters threatening you.)

[RyaikenDune]

You died with two GGKs and they went onto my fighter rofl.


=P that was take one with t1 speed. Didn't get really far that time rofl.... and we got cussed out and told to leave. We came back later and did the whole map. Sorry for training you :c

Wow memories tho... wish ghost would get off his mage and start playing archers.

Archers ftw >.<

[zombiedawl]

=P that was take one with t1 speed. Didn't get really far that time rofl.... and we got cussed out and told to leave. We came back later and did the whole map. Sorry for training you :c

Wow memories tho... wish ghost would get off his mage and start playing archers.

Archers ftw >.<

Haha, I didn't mind. You gave me 3 GGK spawns(One was the one I had before you came) without me having to move. 8D Which was a pain when poisoned because couldn't mount.

[RyaikenDune]

I tried to get the boss lackeys along with the bosses. It was common courtesy c:

[papayas16]

so much drama for farming here, im from apo and trust me a real farmer can farm even is there is only 1 free room, i have made more than 20 gems farming, and the secret is keep farming doesnt matter if u need to wait 10 min per boss. and of course u need a rant.

[JOHNNYPOOPOOPANTS]

so much drama for farming here, im from apo and trust me a real farmer can farm even is there is only 1 free room, i have made more than 20 gems farming, and the secret is keep farming doesnt matter if u need to wait 10 min per boss. and of course u need a rant.

Anyone can farm. It's the true farmers that have perm chars fully geared and in use.

[TheREALArcherEric]

9x is where experience is needed? k

[rulhearted]

What about other places like ...
idk..
GoD/zk >w>
some ppl would get crazy about messing "THEIR" respwan rates ._.

[JOHNNYPOOPOOPANTS]

What about other places like ...
idk..
GoD/zk >w>
some ppl would get crazy about messing "THEIR" respwan rates ._.

Don't touch my ZK. ;)

[achickentender]

could care less about pepo that try to claim a whole map,ill sit on a boss spawn,open fraps,and wait for them to come ks the boss i already got 1/2 hp off <: then its peaceful for 3 days ^.~

[rulhearted]

Don't touch my ZK. ;)

i wont ..
just dont eat me ;w;

[phreakshot]

could care less about pepo that try to claim a whole map,ill sit on a boss spawn,open fraps,and wait for them to come ks the boss i already got 1/2 hp off <: then its peaceful for 3 days ^.~

I do that too when I farm. Fraps <3

[caitcouldchoke]

I'll ks you all day long? c:

[apallday]

well fyi dude a good farmer can kill all 5 caimans and make it back b4 the first respawns. So "camping a room" wont really do you any good considering you yourself cant claim a room for yourself. On that note If you shout when you get in and ask "mind if i take a room?" 99% of people will say yes. if they dont then all its gonna do is create hate and drama. So best thing to do is leave anyway.

[prototypef]

Step #1: Enter farming territory.

Step #2: Send a shout message asking if anyone is currently farming what you are after. Make sure you wait!

Step #3a: If yes, ask when they will be done, or if they are willing to share a mob or 2.

Step #3b: If no, the area is entirely yours until someone else comes along.

Step #4a: If they let you take 1 or 2 mobs, be grateful. "Please" and "Thank you" is very friendly in this situation. If they say no it's usually because they are almost done and want a final dash at a decent drop. Don't annoy them by killing their mobs. Otherwise they are just being selfish THEN you can take it up with a CSR.

Step #4b: If someone comes along and asks if anyone is farming in shout, respond as soon as you are safe to do so. Tell them for how long you will continue farming. If they want to wait. Lucky you. If they want a room in the meantime, give it to them to keep them happy. This leaves you and them happy.

Step #5: Notify people when you are done or restoning etc. This also makes sure you don't get into confused fights later on. If you are done and they don't realize it, will make them have a lesser opinion of you. When you are done you can leave until next time.

Step #6: And the circle of farming continues.