About Exotic as a Guild

[RanmaruX]

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Please read it all, or at least this section, and the section you're replying to in it's entirety before posting. Thank you.

This is not a recruitment thread, for our official guild thread click here (http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276137).

Try to read this post in as objective and mature way as you can. Flaming is in no way allowed in this thread as already stated in the forum rules which I'm sure all of you are familiar with. Only topics addressed in this post will be discussed on this thread, anything else will be considered off-topic/spam, so if you have nothing to say you can just leave the thread without posting. Any "funny" and immature comments and/or seemingly related pictures or links will be considered as the flame/spam that they are, and with that said I'd also like to note that this thread will be monitored and all flammatory or otherwise offensive content reported and removed.

What's this about?
I made this thread as an attempt to solve some of the common claims or misunderstandings in terms of recent (and not so recent) events regarding our guild Exotic, and I must say that I find it rather disturbing how so many people hate and bash on us and our master when she nor the rest of us do nothing different from others, except our master actually does something for her guild unlike most masters out there that I know, and the only real difference is that the guild in question is non warring and the leader happens to be female, so you like bashing on girls?

The "guild first" Grinding Policy
As for what comes to all the complaints about us not inviting you to our party to join us in our grind, the reason for that we have all gone through so many times before. This is practiced by most guilds really, their members are either just too hypocrite to admit it or they really don't know that it's happening, but most guilds will party with their fellow guild members for grinding. Such things as "lines" are merely common practices taken on by these parties to help keep such longlasting grinding sessions organized and are by no means required, the master of the party (usually the "main mage" or "mm" for short) can choose to party who they wish just like you can choose whether you want to join a party you're invited to or not. I, and anyone else at that, have the right to not party with certain individuals just because I don't like their behaviour or for any other reason, and I, or anyone else at that, am/are allowed to stick to a clear policy in these situations, like "guild first", then other people, and lastly the annoying people who I will probably not party at all.

But what we do not do is kick people from the party who may be from another guild when we enter the party, or just to make room. Sadly though, such action is taken by some other guilds and it's very disrespectful to those involved.

Spot Claiming
What happened yesterday at snakes was a typical scenario, something that has happened countless times before. A party of players invaded an area already occupied by another party of our guild, then hiding behind the rule of "no spot claiming" this party starts casually grinding with no respect to our party who were already grinding there, yet we leave them be, then when some of our guild members join to grind on the same area with the same basis as you; that the mobs are free for all, you get upset and start bashing on them and us like no tomorrow.

Exhibition / Non-warring status
Our guild's warring status is Exhibition, it is no reason to discriminate on us because of that, it is a form of a guild that dedicates it's time to grinding, farming, and actually playing the game like we do, it is only natural for our members to wish to be able to grind and vend without being attacked by other players while doing so, the guild's warring status was indeed briefly changed to warring which I was personally against from the start, expecting it to lead to us being constantly under attack at inconvenient times which is exactly what happened, so the guild's warring status was changed back to Exhibition for our own convenience. Our guild does still war occasionally as most guilds do, through the use of alternate guilds. If you wish for such a war with us, you may as always contact our master directly to organize this.

Power Leveling
To what's being said about our guild plvling it's members; we don't plvl any more than the rest of you, of course it's relative to what each of us considers as plvling though, some might say that a main mage plvls their whole party which is to some extent true, and that would make most of the server's higher level fighters and clerics all plvl'd. Everyone in our parties are put to work or forced to leave, guild member or not. If you see someone housing or just hanging around, they're most likely not in the party and are just waiting for a spot to open up or they're there for some other reason.

SparkCash Payments
Any claims of our master paying our members or admins in SparkCash are just ridiculous beyond belief, just listen to yourselves.

Exotic Sucks!
No, you suck.

Summary
I suppose the real reason behind all the hate is as simple as this; the server has always come together to bash on some guild, in the 59, 79, 89 caps it was my old guild Aoi_No_Kaze or "ANK" as most of us know it, then with ANK gone it wasn't cool to bash on us anymore so people switched to hating Rye, who have been unarguably the top guild for a long time, but now with Rye gone (at least for now) it's apparently Exotic, but know this; you can bash on us all you want, but we'll just laugh about it, maybe block and/or report you, and go on.

Personally I never really needed a guild for obvious reasons, but I must say that I'm happy to have been invited to Exotic and to have become such a part of it, and I thank my friend and guild master Xuan for everything she's done for us, and I'm sorry to see that you are so misunderstood by the rest of the community, just remember this and don't let them get under your skin.


Sincerely,
Ran.

[don112]

Wow ran beautiful <3 exotic forever needa change my sigggy!

[dawnnie]

Let me ask u something (sorry if my english is bad~),
lets say you and your party are at the snake spot, and the whole spot with snake there is only your party, so ur party lure snakes from all the places. Then, another party happen to appear at a spot, lets say the portal next to secret lab so you cannot lure there anymore. Then, when both side lure there is some 'mob stealing' going on but after that the other party try their best not to lure mob that will affect the other party.
So, what will you do to that other party which is by the portal to secret lab?

[RanmaruX]

Wow ran beautiful <3 exotic forever needa change my sigggy!

Thanks Don, I just felt like typing some of this up for reference.


Let me ask u something (sorry if my english is bad~),
lets say you and your party are at the snake spot, and the whole spot with snake there is only your party, so ur party lure snakes from all the places. Then, another party happen to appear at a spot, lets say the portal next to secret lab so you cannot lure there anymore. Then, when both side lure there is some 'mob stealing' going on but after that the other party try their best not to lure mob that will affect the other party.
So, what will you do to that other party which is by the portal to secret lab?

That's a good question dawnnie.

Well as I see it, if as you describe the party is luring all the spawns, the other party can't really lure without affecting the party that was there first, so if they respect the original party they'll leave the spot alone after noticing them, but of course as stated by Outspark; you can't claim a spot, so they are able to grind there for whatever mobs they can get before the original party does without being in direct violation of the terms of service, however since the newly arrived party can't claim the spot either, technically anyone can come and aoe on the said spawn as long as they're not kill stealing by hitting the already attacked mobs, unless the other party lures them through your aoe which is out of your control. That is of course not respectful to them, but they can't really complain seeing as they were doing the same thing to the original party in the first place.

[shihouinkyouhei]

So much hate for Exotic... Kind of funny viewing this from an outsider's perspective though.

[Mindspank]

Man you guys are still playing this game?

Good luck with your guild.

[luckywalker07]

Ran I thought you would know from the history to this server that threads like this have never really resolved anything. Pretty sure there was one for ANK and a copious amount for Rye.

I guess its like the old saying goes "Actions speak louder than words".

[Maty_Groso]

I love Exotic guild, they're the best. I so want to join that guild :(

[shihouinkyouhei]

I love Exotic guild, they're the best. I so want to join that guild :(

Get back in your hole, matty ****.

[Maty_Groso]

Get back in your hole, matty ****.

Hater, go away with your drama.

[KanesAssassin]

Read Before Posting!
Please read it all, or at least this section, and the section you're replying to in it's entirety before posting. Thank you.

This is not a recruitment thread, for our official guild thread click here (http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276137).

Try to read this post in as objective and mature way as you can. Flaming is in no way allowed in this thread as already stated in the forum rules which I'm sure all of you are familiar with. Only topics addressed in this post will be discussed on this thread, anything else will be considered off-topic/spam, so if you have nothing to say you can just leave the thread without posting. Any "funny" and immature comments and/or seemingly related pictures or links will be considered as the flame/spam that they are, and with that said I'd also like to note that this thread will be monitored and all flammatory or otherwise offensive content reported and removed.

What's this about?
I made this thread as an attempt to solve some of the common claims or misunderstandings in terms of recent (and not so recent) events regarding our guild Exotic, and I must say that I find it rather disturbing how so many people hate and bash on us and our master when she nor the rest of us do nothing different from others, except our master actually does something for her guild unlike most masters out there that I know, and the only real difference is that the guild in question is non warring and the leader happens to be female, so you like bashing on girls?

The "guild first" Grinding Policy
As for what comes to all the complaints about us not inviting you to our party to join us in our grind, the reason for that we have all gone through so many times before. This is practiced by most guilds really, their members are either just too hypocrite to admit it or they really don't know that it's happening, but most guilds will party with their fellow guild members for grinding. Such things as "lines" are merely common practices taken on by these parties to help keep such longlasting grinding sessions organized and are by no means required, the master of the party (usually the "main mage" or "mm" for short) can choose to party who they wish just like you can choose whether you want to join a party you're invited to or not. I, and anyone else at that, have the right to not party with certain individuals just because I don't like their behaviour or for any other reason, and I, or anyone else at that, am/are allowed to stick to a clear policy in these situations, like "guild first", then other people, and lastly the annoying people who I will probably not party at all.

But what we do not do is kick people from the party who may be from another guild when we enter the party, or just to make room. Sadly though, such action is taken by some other guilds and it's very disrespectful to those involved.

Spot Claiming
What happened yesterday at snakes was a typical scenario, something that has happened countless times before. A party of players invaded an area already occupied by another party of our guild, then hiding behind the rule of "no spot claiming" this party starts casually grinding with no respect to our party who were already grinding there, yet we leave them be, then when some of our guild members join to grind on the same area with the same basis as you; that the mobs are free for all, you get upset and start bashing on them and us like no tomorrow.

Exhibition / Non-warring status
Our guild's warring status is Exhibition, it is no reason to discriminate on us because of that, it is a form of a guild that dedicates it's time to grinding, farming, and actually playing the game like we do, it is only natural for our members to wish to be able to grind and vend without being attacked by other players while doing so, the guild's warring status was indeed briefly changed to warring which I was personally against from the start, expecting it to lead to us being constantly under attack at inconvenient times which is exactly what happened, so the guild's warring status was changed back to Exhibition for our own convenience. Our guild does still war occasionally as most guilds do, through the use of alternate guilds. If you wish for such a war with us, you may as always contact our master directly to organize this.

Power Leveling
To what's being said about our guild plvling it's members; we don't plvl any more than the rest of you, of course it's relative to what each of us considers as plvling though, some might say that a main mage plvls their whole party which is to some extent true, and that would make most of the server's higher level fighters and clerics all plvl'd. Everyone in our parties are put to work or forced to leave, guild member or not. If you see someone housing or just hanging around, they're most likely not in the party and are just waiting for a spot to open up or they're there for some other reason.

SparkCash Payments
Any claims of our master paying our members or admins in SparkCash are just ridiculous beyond belief, just listen to yourselves.

Exotic Sucks!
No, you suck.

Summary
I suppose the real reason behind all the hate is as simple as this; the server has always come together to bash on some guild, in the 59, 79, 89 caps it was my old guild Aoi_No_Kaze or "ANK" as most of us know it, then with ANK gone it wasn't cool to bash on us anymore so people switched to hating Rye, who have been unarguably the top guild for a long time, but now with Rye gone (at least for now) it's apparently Exotic, but know this; you can bash on us all you want, but we'll just laugh about it, maybe block and/or report you, and go on.

Personally I never really needed a guild for obvious reasons, but I must say that I'm happy to have been invited to Exotic and to have become such a part of it, and I thank my friend and guild master Xuan for everything she's done for us, and I'm sorry to see that you are so misunderstood by the rest of the community, just remember this and don't let them get under your skin.


Sincerely,
Ran.

I did read your whole post ran, and to be honest, I agree on some parts, disagree on others. Is there hypocrisy in guilds? Certainly, yours as well as mine, and I make no effort to claim that isn't the case. I am going to confront you on the exhibition status though. Plenty of guilds do just fine with it, the reason your guild gets hammered is because of events like yesterday, where you use 7 different alt guilds to war one guild. It's pretty irritating, being a veteran player I would think you would understand that, especially considering your time in ANK. Coming out of exo to war on one guild is fine, 7 isn't right, so if you want to do it, don't be surprised when you're flamed for it. I also disagree on your whole "the server has always bashed one guild" argument. I've been here for 3 years, and there have been periods where no one guild has been so hated by a united group on the server ran. ANK got it because a person called flash (remember him?) started raising hell on the server. Rye got it because of something called helga (again ringing bells?) There are reasons these guilds get flamed. Does it go far sometimes? Possibly, and some people don't know what they're talking about, but to tell me theres no reason other then we need someone to "bash" is incorrect in my opinion. In my summary, perhaps Exo should use better discretion with its warring policies, and its attitude towards other guilds, which have been vehement at times, as I think some from other guilds might agree. Rye seemed to have figured out how to not be hated, when I came back no one was miffed at them anymore, so it must be possible for you as well. I for one am willing to work with anyone on the server, Exo or otherwise, as long as you'll work with me, and have respect. Thats my thoughts on the matter, I apologise in advance if this offends anyone. Have a good day everyone.
(one other note I have a ss saying DRM is payed for helping your guild) but I will give you the benefit of the doubt on that one I suppose. Its certainly possible its incorrect, and if so then so be it.

[idiit]

I like you Ran, but some of this I can't agree with and am entitled to an opinion, considered flaming or not just as you are.



The "guild first" Grinding Policy
As for what comes to all the complaints about us not inviting you to our party to join us in our grind, the reason for that we have all gone through so many times before. This is practiced by most guilds really.

A member of ours quit guild for several days because I screamed at him so much for skipping Rye's in line during the initial cap raise. To me it's disgusting to see other people practicing this method. Do onto others as you would want done to you. But yes, I will admit the majority of fiesta is in this way... Greedy. Or perhaps possessive is the word I'm looking for, people who are close to me included.



But what we do not do is kick people from the party who may be from another guild when we enter the party, or just to make room. Sadly though, such action is taken by some other guilds and it's very disrespectful to those involved.

culio. Personal example of a nice guy who was even MMing for 3 Exo's, but because there was no room in party and A CERTAIN CLERIC wanted to grind she made his entire party leave mid-cookie and join hers so she could leave him ptless, cookied, and at 98%. Yumikko, another example of a girl kicked from pt for another Exo member.



Spot Claiming
A party of players invaded an area already occupied by another party of our guild, then hiding behind the rule of "no spot claiming" this party starts casually grinding with no respect to our party who were already grinding there, yet we leave them be.

That's not always the case, perhaps you are not aware. We got warred for this very thing. When my guild wars, even if we do kill everyone in sight no matter where they are (I personally think vend/afk killing is still cheap however), to my knowledge we never did it for a grind spot with Exo. Not like many of us grind anyways. After one of our wars I went to check snakes to see who was grinding, it was JG and MB mixed in party, and what happened? Exo warred JG to kill their MM and take back "what is theirs" I assume. I'm not going to believe the timing for such was so ironic for another purpose. I think it's silly to demand respect from people who have been treated like that, especially if that particular guild or person has never done such to the people in question.

An eye for an eye and the world goes blind. Are you surprised?



Summary
I suppose the real reason behind all the hate is as simple as this; the server has always come together to bash on some guild, in the 59, 79, 89 caps it was my old guild Aoi_No_Kaze or "ANK" as most of us know it, then with ANK gone it wasn't cool to bash on us anymore so people switched to hating Rye, who have been unarguably the top guild for a long time, but now with Rye gone (at least for now) it's apparently Exotic.

I'm pretty sure for like four months before you or Exo came back to the game the guilds were all on good terms with one another. The cap raise brought some tension, and so did malephar, but as far as I know Ryekarayn was not "hated" directly previous to Exo's return. My reasoning is A CERTAIN CLERIC with her husband KSing even when I was just bashing a friggin sub during initial cap raise ): (I can uploadz if yew want :B) and pulling our mobs in circles for at least 30 minutes just to be "bitter" and our pulls were messed up. You think this is a band wagon people are just hopping into for the fun of it? No. It's personal, for 95% of us.

Suggestion: Treat players as players and not tags. I've tried to do that with Exo if you haven't noticed... I don't hate on the randoms I've never talked to. But people like Don who tell me to stfu just for answering a obvious question he asked? Uhhh? Sorry for helping bro? ._. And not like it's easy when all the grinders seem to have the same morals placed into their heads and instead doing what they think is fair, they'd rather get a gold star from a guildmate.

It won't change. Me posting this, you posting this isn't going to change how any of us feel or think. We're all too stubborn and content being hated or hating on someone.

[emilylalala]

Sami, will you marry me? ;-;

[kauaigirl005]

Regarding the snake spot, I was there 24/7 (Yes that is obviously an exaggeration) when I was trying to cap so I know a lot of what happened. The thing with culio I wasn't there for. Someone gave up their spot for Yumiko until she leveled, when she did I kicked her and pted the person who gave up their spot for her. I don't think I was there for whatever happened with JG and MB, but I can tell you when I was at the snake spot (which was a lot), I (and my pt) have never ksed/stole a spot from someone who hasn't done it to us first. There has been one or more occasion where MB and JG ksed/stole mobs from us before we went near their grinding pts. Again, not speaking for Exotic just myself and what I have seen happened there.

That was a really good explanation of everything ran <3

[Dragonfly77]

Great....big wall..of text...

@_@

[darknightofwind]

She's mine Emi gtfo D:<

Miyavi said most of what I wanted to and then some.

I still have friends in Exo (I think o.O) and I'm trying my best not to judge the guild as a whole, but I see some of the same people trash talking day in and day out. I can post / pm screenies of an Exotic alt. guild warring someone mid-grind at snakes (are you seeing a pattern here? >.>) as well as a CERTAIN CLERIC outside healing because she dropped tag mid war (mind you, she's the one who declared the war).

I see alt wars going on and constant re-invites for the same people, as well as various other things that make me question just how much of a 'victim' Exotic is in all of this so-called drama / hatred. I have to wonder, does the guild turn a blind eye to this, condone it (eg: "they did it to us first! QQ!!!!!"), or just not care?

[idiit]

Sami, will you marry me? ;-;

Well...
It IS Webcam Wednesday... x:
Perhaps it's your lucky day too c;

[Sharlyne]

I guess its like the old saying goes "Actions speak louder than words".


like you said, "actions speak better than words" but the question is if some exotic members change will you all stop hating for what they done ? or will the trash talk and immaturity continue :I?

[luckywalker07]

like you said, "actions speak better than words" but the question is if some exotic members change will you all stop hating for what they done ? or will the trash talk and immaturity continue :I?

Well respect, trust, and all things alike take merely seconds to break and a while to restore. A sudden change of heart by 1 exo member won't suddenly cause everyone else to accept them. People will always bare the mistakes of their past, whether they like it or not.

[Sharlyne]

Well respect, trust, and all things alike take merely seconds to break and a while to restore. A sudden change of heart by 1 exo member won't suddenly cause everyone else to accept them. People will always bare the mistakes of their past, whether they like it or not.

Well ofc it will take time but if 1 guild is trying to make peace the others should also do that D: forgive and forget and enjoy the game.

HI LUKE !!! (sun)

[kauaigirl005]

OMG luke you're still my hero <3

[luckywalker07]

Well ofc it will take time but if 1 guild is trying to make peace the others should also do that D: forgive and forget and enjoy the game.

HI LUKE !!! (sun)

I totally agree, however I have yet to see any of the player (ones I won't name but you know the ones) make said effort. They're going to have to take the first step towards that.

and HI AKARI !!! (flex)(sun)

and hiya Kauai :D

[dawnnie]

That's a good question dawnnie.

Well as I see it, if as you describe the party is luring all the spawns, the other party can't really lure without affecting the party that was there first, so if they respect the original party they'll leave the spot alone after noticing them, but of course as stated by Outspark; you can't claim a spot, so they are able to grind there for whatever mobs they can get before the original party does without being in direct violation of the terms of service, however since the newly arrived party can't claim the spot either, technically anyone can come and aoe on the said spawn as long as they're not kill stealing by hitting the already attacked mobs, unless the other party lures them through your aoe which is out of your control. That is of course not respectful to them, but they can't really complain seeing as they were doing the same thing to the original party in the first place.[/QUOTE]

Yes, i do know the other party cant really lure without affecting the party that was there at first, actually i didnt see anybody there lol, i didnt really walk around the whole map to see if anybody was there, my fren just ask me to try at a small spot beside the portal to secret lab and we were just killing 3-4 snake, we were than for more than 10 minutes and never see anyone coming to lure
When my friend lure he did try his best to not disturb the other party there, and each time we only had like 3-5 snakes to kill, well during one lure i guess there is a small conflict because one person from the other party came over and say us , (actually i dont even know what happen lol) so we did take note of it and try to lure 3-4 snakes which is at our spot. I do know they wish to train and we wish to do so too, its just a small spot we are not taking alot of space. But i guess even killing 3-4 snakes each time is hindering them.

So a fighter from Exotic, 10x (I cant see the level because im only level 90) came over and lure a bunch of mobs (more than 10) towards our party and at that time our mage is doing AOE, so i think u know what happen after this, me and my friends were killed.

I do not know what they are thinking, well maybe others are thinking that my friends and I were at fault for being at 'their spot' but this doesnt gives them a reason to kill us right? From what i see i dont really think my party KS their mobs.. we are not even near them :O
I just wish to tell you that, incidents like this do happen. And if this is continuing then more and more people will think bad of your guild and no matter how much you explain they will not change their mindset towards your guild.
Well, to be honest to you, i dont think many people read the forum so i think not many people will see your explanation :O

[RanmaruX]

Ran I thought you would know from the history to this server that threads like this have never really resolved anything. Pretty sure there was one for ANK and a copious amount for Rye.

I guess its like the old saying goes "Actions speak louder than words".

I do not expect an immediate change in either the way our guild is seen or even in the behaviour of our members, but I remain hopeful that both can be changed overtime. This thread's purpose was just to answer to some of the common claims I keep hearing, but of course I wouldn't know about a lot of the things that happened with our guild in the past months seeing as I've been gone and only got back and joined the guild about a month ago.

Several good points were made in the replies here, but there is simply too much to reply to so I'll just sum up some of it.

The hate may be there for a reason for what some of our guildies may have done, but such actions are not taken for no reason either. It is almost every time I mm at snakes that groups of disrespectful players show up taking mobs that we've been pulling often for hours and even yesterday it ended up with such a party planting aoes right on the spot we were pulling the mobs to while they were saying something along the lines "whee free exp", and this was after they had invaded the spot, which we did not claim as ours even though they insisted we did. Of course I took screenshots of these events and the offenders will be reported shortly.

I also see that our current warring policy could be better, I have personally taken no part in the actual wars so I can't say much on that matter, but I will certainly bring up the matter with the guild.

Also when our members say that they are paid in SC, it's all just to shut people up, no one gets paid to be here. I'm surprised anyone would actually take such ridiculous claims seriously.

P.S. Please keep the off-topic to minimum, there are other threads specifically for that, this thread is about the topics adressed in the opening post.

[alinea_]

Exotic Sucks!
No, you suck.



Also, best part lol

[Maty_Groso]

Lmao. Also champ fix your skills QQ

[alinea_]

Champ, how can you say I'm obsessed with MB for posting on their threads then come here and post on an Exo thread? HYPOCRITICAL MUCH?

[lancer92]

When have i said ur obsessed with MB rofl thats other guild members XD

[emilylalala]

It's not like this is a recruitment thread.. o.o;
It's a "we're hated by everyone, so let me explain.." thread. I think everyone has a right to post here, ma'am.

[ogonna]

Lmao. Also champ fix your skills QQ

hes black thts why they look like that QQ

[blind_manstudios]

Exotic sounds strong.... Dont hurt me D;!!!!!

[DemonBlitzKragor]

Guys, please watch the flaming. Already had to delete a couple of posts. ._.

[coles1]

Okay Ran, it's cool that you are posting this but it doesn't really speak for your guild's actions as a whole.

About the guild first policy, you say that you don't drop people from parties because of their tag, but there have been instances where exactly that has happened. Someone kicked out because they are not from the same guild. Also I have seen groups of members from your guild go in and take over a grinding spot because they don't want to wait in line or whatever like everyone else does.

Concerning the guild wars/exhibition thing, I can't really agree with you. Maybe if you didn't assail a certain guild with wars from several alt guilds, it would look better. But as it stands, you guys have not given us any reason to accept that Exotic is looking to better its relations with other guilds.

As for why people dislike your guild master, it should be obvious. She is very selective in who she plays with, parties with, or even talks to. She seems to practice "tag hate" more than anyone else I know. At least, that's what I have seen from her actions so far. Xuan is one of those people who I get the feeling that she thinks she is superior to many others because of her position. Tell me if I'm wrong, though. And if I'm wrong then tell me why she acts the way she does. Or better yet, get her to post why.

The Power Levelling and Payments stuff.... yeah, those are basically things people just say because they are mad at people from the guild.

If you're posting this saying this is what you guys will be practicing in the future, then cool. But I don't think you can post this based off of the recent actions of the guild. That's all I have to say atm, let me know what you think.

[lancer92]

why u gotta remove my posts that aint flaming this aint recruting thread ***

man os now decides to step in XD

[kauaigirl005]

why u gotta remove my posts that aint flaming this aint recruting thread ***

man os now decides to step in XD

hahahahahaha
that just made my fiesta day

ooooo GM theres "***"
means he said a bad word, INFRACTION pl0x <3

i don't even dislike you anymore champ, you're too entertaining to be hated!

[emilylalala]

Stop instigating fights, honestly.

[kauaigirl005]

Learn how to take a joke.
I've said **** **** *** ***** lots of time in my pots and I've never received an infraction for it AND infractions don't even do anything lol

And I just said I don't dislike him anymore, so I was actually doing the opposite of starting a fight o:

Need I remind you, yes I started the arguments on the MB thread, but I stopped. Then Champ came to this thread and posted pictures that are against tos!!! So according to what MB said, since this is an Exo thread, Champ has stepped onto my "territory" so I am free to say what I want (of course as long as it does not go against tos).

[lancer92]

hahahahahaha
that just made my fiesta day

ooooo GM theres "***"
means he said a bad word, INFRACTION pl0x <3

i don't even dislike you anymore champ, you're too entertaining to be hated!

Lol i see u dont have a comeback woot i won! :D Champ1 Exos guild h e 0 :D

[kauaigirl005]

Lol i see u dont have a comeback woot i won! :D Champ1 Exos guild h e 0 :D

WOAH! Sir, are you just trying to add up those infractions?
GM! Champ called me a "h e" and the blank is supposed to be a o D:
Infraction pl0x <3

And no the score is still MB's mascot 0 Ali 0 BECAUSE I was laughing so much that your post got deleted that I forgot about it.

Comeback: Are you ready for it? Ok here it is!...
A ss of someone dying by mobs doesn't mean anything! In aoe pts, mistakes happen so I'm sure if you were grinding there and I stalked you I would eventually get a ss of you dying too D:< Well, I don't really remember the ss so idk if he was grinding or not. But other things could have been involved like if he wasn't paying attention, afk, or whatever else reasons.
"A picture is worth a thousand worths but a thousand words may not be the whole story!" ~Alinea_
I know you're gonna say my quote sounded dumb cause you're mean like that D:

[lifehouseb0i]

Yay for offtopic posts especially when the OP said not to ô¸õ

[emilylalala]

Need I remind you, yes I started the arguments on the MB thread, but I stopped. Then Champ came to this thread and posted pictures that are against tos!!! So according to what MB said, since this is an Exo thread, Champ has stepped onto my "territory" so I am free to say what I want (of course as long as it does not go against tos).
But as I said before, this thread isn't "your" territory.
If anyones, it is Ran's. He made it.
The reason your arguing is inappropriate in the MB thread is because it is a recruitment thread.
This thread, my dear, is NOT a recruitment thread.
Everyone may post their opinions, although flaming has definitely broken out..
You're definitely asking for trouble though.
I'd recommend keeping your mouth shut and laying low, or you'll just become another girl with a bad reputation that no one will take seriously.
And really, if Exotic ever dies again, like it did before.. what happens to you?
You'd be forced to either A. quit because everyone hates you and your guildmates are gone, or B. keep playing solo?

just my thoughts~

[kauaigirl005]

I kept saying if Exotic dies I'd quit fiesta.
I'm really only still playing because of two people, who are in Exotic.
Idc what anyone thinks of me as long as I'm having fun because after all it is just a game.
When I get bored of this game, life will go on...

People are allowed to post there opinions here, but posting pictures of dead people is not an opinion.
I'll give you an analogy MB's thread:Champ::This thread:Me.

All the arguing I have done in MB's thread and the arguing I'm doing right now with Champ is purely for my entertainment. There are very few people in this game who will even make the slightless impact in my real life. And this is where people see things differently as me and where the disagreements come in. I see this as a game, I don't play this game to make irl friends like most people do. Idc if I become the most hated person in this game because ultimately no one (there are a few exceptions) means anything to me irl. SIDENOTE: This is also why I didn't feel any obligation to tell anyone I changed my name. I did choose to tell the few that I mentioned earlier and if you're reading this sorry I didn't tell you jedi and micko.

[GM_RoboPanda]

Guys, warned once about the flaming.

Looks like this needs to be close.

Please, don't flame/troll next time.

Closed.