I want to reset my skills and states (pictures)

[lottry]

my skills


http://www4.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/fb095bed2f3a0a43fb32765a846ecc68b4fccf934930bc2a8e 074a2333be7c676g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=1153rmad7x2psa2&thumb=4)

and my states

http://www2.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/67c3844d947bedb02d8585aa06f79b911e4592a2f0dd0d6d10 829b2e31019ec76g.jpg (http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=dwb9w93ok6qkf47&thumb=4)

15 str
1 dex
40 end
22 int
10 spr

I've idea to make my states :

20 str
15 dex
33 end
0 int
20 spr

Is it a good idea?:rolleyes:

suggest me to make my cleric perfectly :o

Remeber, I've full reset skills and states :D

Best Wishes :)

[Michelle_Aerro]

http://www.fiestafan.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22413

[Infestation]

Well it depends on a lot of factors. I can give you some better info for your specific play style after I ask some questions.

How high to do you plan to level?

Do you have a Prestige class choice already?

Do you prefer to solo? Duo? Full Parties?

What do you like to do in you "free" time that isn't spent leveling? Options such as boss farming, farming instance dungeons, guild wars, guild tournaments, server boss raiding, pvp kq, FBZ wars, and anything I'm forgetting.


Do not follow the link that michelle sent you. There are suggestions for 20 wasted points in that guide.

You don't want any SP reductions, they are a waste.
Power on Trip/Bleed is a broken empowerment.
Recover has too long of a cooldown to begin with and a cast time, waste of points.
Full duration on Invincible is a waste.


As for the 4 stat build it does just fine. I use it on 3 of my 4 classes.

The skills you have empowered so far are also fine, with the exception of Invincible. You don't need any points on Invincible, or at the most 1 point to duration. Those 10 points would be better spent on Rejuvenate, followed by 5 to the cooldown on Quicken. Later you choose to cooldown Awaken, or not, as well as Bleed/Trip cooldown if you prefer to solo.

[lottry]

ty michelle_aerro for responds


How high to do you plan to level?

KQ or Tower



Do you have a Prestige class choice already?

I'm paladin and if I hit lvl 100 I'll choose Holy Knight


Do you prefer to solo? Duo? Full Parties?

full parties


What do you like to do in you "free" time that isn't spent leveling? Options such as boss farming, farming instance dungeons, guild wars, guild tournaments, server boss raiding, pvp kq, FBZ wars, and anything I'm forgetting.

Abyss or KQ or GW

[hamsterfest]

Have you read Aeyr's Cleric guide? If not you probably should as well as follow infestation's advices.

Here's the link for the guide: http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234510

[lottry]

ty hamsterfest

I read it many times why?!


1- Full END: very bad cant do quests anymore
2-Full STR: bad def U will getta banned from pt no one need U
3- Full SPR: see 2
4- 25 SPR, rest END: very bad cuz U havnt an aim
5- 25 SPR, rest STR: U havnt def
6- 30 DEX, rest END: not bad but U need to spr and str for more dmg
7- 30 DEX, rest STR : bad def
8- 50 END rest STR/ 2:1 STR : END: dmg with def but without aim it's like nothin'
9- 30 DEX, 50 END, rest STR: not bad but U need to spend alot of money on outfit.


why I say that?
because every lvl U gotta more str,dex,end,int and spr pluse points state


but I need suggestion for this part



20 str
15 dex
33 end
0 int
20 spr

is it good or bad ?

[Infestation]

Ok well since you are playing a more supportive role, I'll give some build suggestions as well as skill suggestions. I have a support build, I soloed to 8x other than some repeats and CC. Obviously if someone was at a spot I'm not going to be able to use it to do my quests if they don't party me.

Builds-

25spr / 50end / 50dex
Support/Solo build. Makes the most of End/Dex before they lose some bonus after 50 for both block rate and evasion. The 25 Spr is to help with a crit rate when soloing. You can sink the extra points into whatever you would like, I chose str.


50dex / Rest end
Purely support. Makes use of evasion and block rate.


25 spr / Even end/dex/str
Spr for the crits, and then the rest just provides bonuses equally.


50 dex / 50 end / rest str
Makes the most of free stat dex and end, then adds damage for solo/pvp stuff


Full Str
If you can afford nice +9 gear this will make you a killing machine while still being able to support a party.




Skills-

Ok so you want to go Holy Knight. Perfectly fine to have a support type build as survivability always matters. You'll be partying to level anyway, so having your support skills empowered doesn't hurt. But also because of the capped levels to a few spells it's nice to have them fully empowered.

Heal - 5 Points to Power and Cooldown
Rejuvenate - 5 Points to Power and Cooldown
Bash - 5 Points to Power and Cooldown
Quicken - 5 Points to Cooldown
Deadly Blessing - 5 Points to Cooldown

Those are the 40 "must have" points, at least in my opinion (I have a 103 Holy Knight)

As for the remaining 10 points you'll have by the time you finish with mimics there are options.

5 into Bleed Cooldown
5 into Awaken Cooldown
1 into Invincible Duration
5 into Revive Cooldown (some do this if they are raid intensive players)
5 into Dispel Pillar Cooldown
5 into Mighty Chop/Benediction cooldown (more for the solo nuts)


I also suggest picking up a Mace, and the mace skills/bonuses. Holy Knights are a mace only class, which does outdamage a hammer over time. Also this will give you plenty of time to adjust to, and learn a skill order.

When soloing/pvp and using Deadly Blessing here is my order (requires cooldown to Bleed)

DB > Bleed > Bash > Mighty Chop > Benediction > Bash > Bleed

That takes you right to the end of the skill duration.





ty hamsterfest

I read it many times why?!


1- Full END: very bad cant do quests anymore [Quests aren't so bad even with full end, people party you]
2-Full STR: bad def U will getta banned from pt no one need U [This is a more solo build, high end/dex/spr full +9 gears needed]
3- Full SPR: see 2 [Noob build lol]
4- 25 SPR, rest END: very bad cuz U havnt an aim [Get rid of your hammer, you need to adapt to a mace anyway]
5- 25 SPR, rest STR: U havnt def [Same as 2, just more crits, but you'll have a buff for that]
6- 30 DEX, rest END: not bad but U need to spr and str for more dmg [+10 weapons do the job]
7- 30 DEX, rest STR : bad def [+9 end/dex/spr gears]
8- 50 END rest STR/ 2:1 STR : END: dmg with def but without aim it's like nothin' [Again lose the hammer, they are big and clunky]
9- 30 DEX, 50 END, rest STR: not bad but U need to spend alot of money on outfit.


why I say that?
because every lvl U gotta more str,dex,end,int and spr pluse points state



is it good or bad ?

Ok so responses are next to each build, but I put a few up top. As for the one you showed it isn't bad, but you should keep what you want as your final build in mind, and go from there.

[darknightofwind]

You make it sound like without dex in build you stand no chance to hit something ever.. or if you have no end in build you'll have the worst hp/def in the world. Neither of these are true.

Yes you don't have the advantage of more aim from a dex build or the block rate of an end based build, but your choice of gears is a major part of how your stats come together. And if you still find aim to be that much of an issue, but still want str / def, invest in scroll making and make aim scrolls for when you solo (though with end/dex gears I think the only mobs my 76 cleric needs aim scrolls for are 15 or more levels higher than me ;>.>)

Personally I think your build is too spread and only marginally helpful. I'd rather do something like 33/50 dex rest str, 1:1 dex:end, or 2:1 str:end. There's a few clerics on my server who are full str and I have to say of the two I know they both have beastly def, hp, and damage (both are HKs too). The reason they have good hp? High end gears. The reason they have good def? +9 gears (again with end). Damage? The right skill empowerments, lots of str in build, and occasionally some set switching. But getting that kind of gear can be expensive and/or time consuming to farm (just an fyi).

Edit: Ninja'd by infestation.

[saharu]

I agree with dark for your build. I asked (btw I am hamsterfest on her main acct.) if you read Aeyr's thread, because she had explanations for the builds already on there, and what they were for. Also if you've read it already you would know the right empowerments; it's all written down on the first page. You can't have anything without sacrificing something; like others have said, you have to choose what to keep and what to give up/make up for with sc and gear.

[lottry]

ty infestation


Heal - 5 Points to Power and Cooldown
Rejuvenate - 5 Points to Power and Cooldown
Bash - 5 Points to Power and Cooldown
Quicken - 5 Points to Cooldown
Deadly Blessing - 5 Points to Cooldown
I did
I made cool down to recover, is it good?


25spr / 50end / 50dex
Support/Solo build. Makes the most of End/Dex before they lose some bonus after 50 for both block rate and evasion. The 25 Spr is to help with a crit rate when soloing. You can sink the extra points into whatever you would like, I chose str.

I'll do that
cuz I've 88 free points , I'll make

0 str
31 dex
32 end
0 int
25 spr

[lottry]

ty darknightofwind


Yes you don't have the advantage of more aim from a dex build or the block rate of an end based build, but your choice of gears is a major part of how your stats come together. And if you still find aim to be that much of an issue

I've pruple set for lvl 75 , 85 , 95
and highly end , also str on rings , neckless and errning


+9 gears (again with end). Damage? The right skill empowerments, lots of str in build, and occasionally some set switching. But getting that kind of gear can be expensive and/or time consuming to farm (just an fyi).


I agree with you

[lottry]

ty saharu


I agree with dark for your build. I asked (btw I am hamsterfest on her main acct.) if you read Aeyr's thread, because she had explanations for the builds already on there, and what they were for. Also if you've read it already you would know the right empowerments; it's all written down on the first page. You can't have anything without sacrificing something; like others have said, you have to choose what to keep and what to give up/make up for with sc and gear.

ty for your suggestion

[Infestation]

Well there are better uses for those 5 points you put into Recover, but it won't kill you. I do however suggest you get two pieces of a Firmanent set and quickly switch to them before you use recover if possible. That will make the points much more worth it.

[leobaloy]

End on gear is really nice.

[lottry]

Well there are better uses for those 5 points you put into Recover, but it won't kill you. I do however suggest you get two pieces of a Firmanent set and quickly switch to them before you use recover if possible. That will make the points much more worth it.

whats the firmanent set?



End on gear is really nice.

yup I agree with you

[darknightofwind]

whats the firmanent set?

It's a 65 blue armor set which increases the amount recover heals.
(You can find 65 armor from the chests at the end of CC as a rare drop.)

[lottry]

It's a 65 blue armor set which increases the amount recover heals.
(You can find 65 armor from the chests at the end of CC as a rare drop.)

I've full purple set for lvl 75 , full pruple set for lvl 85 so I think I don't need to them ;)

Ty Dark night of wind

[lottry]

I think recovery skill is important later at lvl +100 and DT

[Infestation]

I think recovery skill is important later at lvl +100 and DT


I've full purple set for lvl 75 , full pruple set for lvl 85 so I think I don't need to them ;)

Ty Dark night of wind

You aren't going to be using the Firmanent set as your full time set. You get two parts to switch to just before using the Recover skill because it increases the amount of HP it recovers by 25%.

Also Recover is a last resort type skill. I'm 103, I hardly use it. Because there is a cast time it isn't great for grinding. If anything it's the last skill I use only because everything else is on cooldown, or if I'm running with my party in between mobs in Fortress KQ.

[lottry]

You aren't going to be using the Firmanent set as your full time set. You get two parts to switch to just before using the Recover skill because it increases the amount of HP it recovers by 25%.

Also Recover is a last resort type skill. I'm 103, I hardly use it. Because there is a cast time it isn't great for grinding. If anything it's the last skill I use only because everything else is on cooldown, or if I'm running with my party in between mobs in Fortress KQ.

nice Idea . I'll try it

ty infestation


an this My skilles
http://www2.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/8320e1bad01c70bf0547533a580c791d35f8ff6ba372cbdf1d 5a9c99e2758ee06g.jpg

[lottry]

My stats is

0 STR
30 DEX
35 END
0 INT
25 SPR