improvements

[sicmonkey7]

I think you guys have done a great job makin the game but heres what i think u need to do to make it better.

1) WASD
I hate having to keep clicking and clicking just to move around and when theres people in the way........... just please put WASD to move in please.

2) More skills
When u are lvling its hard enough(once you get to a high lvl) to lvl, but whats the point to lvling when all you get is 1 to 2 stat points after all that hard work, every 5 to 10 lvls you get a skill, thats just horrible, all you do is spam 1 ability all the time.... over and over again... u should get a new ability or at lest an upgrade to one every 2 lvls... like WoW(world of warcraft) that way u have more of a viritaty of skills to use.

3) EXP
At lvl 17 i went to the best place to lvl(with 100 mana pots) after 10 minutes of killing and killing i had used 51 mana pots and only got up to 23% to lvl 18(i was at 0% when i came), and my spells only do about 41-50 damage and use 8 mana.... You might just be wanted to make it really really hard to lvl but it just gets old of hitting the same ability over and over again so i can lvl 5 times so i can get a new skill..... Make the exp rate higher or damage higher(i can only say this for a Acolyte)

4) Quests
Quests need to give exp... plain and simpile ALL quests should give exp.... even if its just giving a person i letter you should still get a little exp maybe 2%....

5) More stat points
When its so hard to lvl and you only get about 1 or 2 stat points its not worth it... you should get more arong 3 to 4 a lvl

This is game is a great game and with a little improvement i think it could be one of the best free mmorpgs out there....

[Rodaa]

the stat points are fine, if you changed the points the whole game would need rebalancing, which is ALOT of work.
You get 2 stat points every 5 levels and 3 stat points every 10 levels bye the way

[Shiryou]

you do get 2 or 3 stat points when you get to certain levels

EDIT: at lvl 30, you get 4 stat points

[sicmonkey7]

So no to the stats... what do you think about everything else

[m1n054]

Well, i must say it's getting tired of spamming 2 or 3 skills xD

[Manic657]

I love being a Acolyte because were needed and usualy have no problem getting into a party. The grinding with an 8 person party for a few hours at only level 22 to get a level is driving me insane though. I love this game, at the moment it is one of my favourites, just grinding with 3 skills untill you can get a fourth (ya, one whole more) untill another 4 levels later, is just a pain.
Some more xp, like double, would be so much better, but even then it would still take a redicoulously long time. I understand that you don't want people leveling like tanks and getting to there next jobs to soon, but to be honestly truthfull, I think allot of people will wan't to leave far before they get to there next class.

[Shiryou]

think another improvement should be to get rid of the quest book that you buy from the general item store and just have an "inbox" for those messages that pop-up every time you level (they could add a button after the game options one for opening and closing your inbox window)....

[m1n054]

BTW, what is WASD? Is it movement with arrows?

[ViEtbOiKrUpTiOn]

WASD is using your WASD keys to move, W = up, A = left, S = down, D = Right.... and for the people complaining about grinding being so tedious, it is on every game, and levelling on this game is quite easy, you're not MEANT to hit second profession after only playing the games a few day... and I still think it's pretty easy since I got to lvl 30 in two days of solo levelling, dont see how it can take you people hours for just one level when you're barely lvl 20, and meh @ pot spamming...when you think about the actual amount the mana pots recover, then you should realize it won't help you THAT much besides timewise, if you're a soloer, worth the money, if you party train.. you will most likely lose profit.

[sicmonkey7]

think another improvement should be to get rid of the quest book that you buy from the general item store and just have an "inbox" for those messages that pop-up every time you level (they could add a button after the game options one for opening and closing your inbox window)....

Ya i total agree with that



But what do u guys think about getting new skills every 2 to 3 lvls at lest and upgrade for them.

[ProffesorJax]

You don't really see a dmg improovment untill you get a new weapon. That is kinda annoying.

[dylanangel]

I think you guys have done a great job makin the game but heres what i think u need to do to make it better.

1) WASD
I hate having to keep clicking and clicking just to move around and when theres people in the way........... just please put WASD to move in please.

2) More skills
When u are lvling its hard enough(once you get to a high lvl) to lvl, but whats the point to lvling when all you get is 1 to 2 stat points after all that hard work, every 5 to 10 lvls you get a skill, thats just horrible, all you do is spam 1 ability all the time.... over and over again... u should get a new ability or at lest an upgrade to one every 2 lvls... like WoW(world of warcraft) that way u have more of a viritaty of skills to use.

3) EXP
At lvl 17 i went to the best place to lvl(with 100 mana pots) after 10 minutes of killing and killing i had used 51 mana pots and only got up to 23% to lvl 18(i was at 0% when i came), and my spells only do about 41-50 damage and use 8 mana.... You might just be wanted to make it really really hard to lvl but it just gets old of hitting the same ability over and over again so i can lvl 5 times so i can get a new skill..... Make the exp rate higher or damage higher(i can only say this for a Acolyte)

4) Quests
Quests need to give exp... plain and simpile ALL quests should give exp.... even if its just giving a person i letter you should still get a little exp maybe 2%....

5) More stat points
When its so hard to lvl and you only get about 1 or 2 stat points its not worth it... you should get more arong 3 to 4 a lvl

This is game is a great game and with a little improvement i think it could be one of the best free mmorpgs out there....
I think this should be an option for everyone but not mandatory movement for everyone. I DO NOT like using those keys. I like the mouse movement

[Ryokosha]

I think you guys have done a great job makin the game but heres what i think u need to do to make it better.

1) WASD
I hate having to keep clicking and clicking just to move around and when theres people in the way........... just please put WASD to move in please.
Don't necessarily need to be those keys (I prefer arrow keys), but yeah there should be an option to enable playing with keyboard. But it should be deactivated by default so you can chat while playing with mouse.


2) More skills
When u are lvling its hard enough(once you get to a high lvl) to lvl, but whats the point to lvling when all you get is 1 to 2 stat points after all that hard work, every 5 to 10 lvls you get a skill, thats just horrible, all you do is spam 1 ability all the time.... over and over again... u should get a new ability or at lest an upgrade to one every 2 lvls... like WoW(world of warcraft) that way u have more of a viritaty of skills to use.
More skills would really be nice. Leveling is really really slow in SoS (mainly because you need to rest very often) so only one skill every 5 levels is boring. :-/
But if they'd solve this slow leveling problem, so you can easily gain 1 level per hour then it's okay to only get one skill every 5 levels.


3) EXP
At lvl 17 i went to the best place to lvl(with 100 mana pots) after 10 minutes of killing and killing i had used 51 mana pots and only got up to 23% to lvl 18(i was at 0% when i came), and my spells only do about 41-50 damage and use 8 mana.... You might just be wanted to make it really really hard to lvl but it just gets old of hitting the same ability over and over again so i can lvl 5 times so i can get a new skill..... Make the exp rate higher or damage higher(i can only say this for a Acolyte)
I wouldn't raise exp or damage in this case. A better idea in my opinion would be to raise the SP recovery when active so at least clerics can keep healing their party members without having to rest or using pots (unless they need to spam heal).
Right now I can kill like 5 mobs that give me 0.5% each until my SP is empty. Then I need to rest 2 minutes. Very very slow leveling. This game is actually worse than RO, I wonder why ppl posted on forums that this game is easy to level in. o.o
Anyways if resting wouldn't be needed in a party then I could accept the low exp the monsters give, but as it is now I don't feel like playing it. :-/


4) Quests
Quests need to give exp... plain and simpile ALL quests should give exp.... even if its just giving a person i letter you should still get a little exp maybe 2%....
Well yeah maybe. That letter quest is awfully boring anyways. They shouldn't reduce your speed this much in it (50% less movement speed when overweight should be enough really).


5) More stat points
When its so hard to lvl and you only get about 1 or 2 stat points its not worth it... you should get more arong 3 to 4 a lvl

This is game is a great game and with a little improvement i think it could be one of the best free mmorpgs out there....
Nah not needed. Works fine.


think another improvement should be to get rid of the quest book that you buy from the general item store and just have an "inbox" for those messages that pop-up every time you level (they could add a button after the game options one for opening and closing your inbox window)....
Yes please. I hate how the quests are organized right now. Quests should be fun doing and make the game enjoyable, you shouldn't charge people for being able to do them. :-/
The quest info needs to get really better. It should mention what you need to hunt and stuff like that...
Or at least the responsible NPC should tell you when you talk to him/her again...

[Molwar]

Better quest reward. Right now quest aren't even worth the time you put in them.

[Ryokosha]

Really? Aren't quests the only way to earn money?

Doing one quest --> 5000 Kron
Leveling for the same time and selling all loot --> 500 Kron (not even considering pots...)

[Molwar]

I haven't see any quest give me over 1000 kron yet and I'm lvl 27.
I make over 30k kron an hr just lvling and selling the loot.

But I wasn't talking about money reward, my bad, i should have been specific, I meant exp wise. Work 30min do to a quest and it gives 1%, really not worth it.

[Zeltar]

3) EXP
At lvl 17 i went to the best place to lvl(with 100 mana pots) after 10 minutes of killing and killing i had used 51 mana pots and only got up to 23% to lvl 18(i was at 0% when i came), and my spells only do about 41-50 damage and use 8 mana.... You might just be wanted to make it really really hard to lvl but it just gets old of hitting the same ability over and over again so i can lvl 5 times so i can get a new skill..... Make the exp rate higher or damage higher(i can only say this for a Acolyte)


yes, solo for a Acolyte is hard! illusion quake does very little and costs a lot. but then acolyte is designed to be a healer, and becomes most useful as a healer. join a party(everyone wants a acolyte in their party) you'll gain much more exp from the party kills that get divided amongst the party. and you won't need to do illusion quake as they'll be doing more then enough dammage, all you need to do is stay alive and heal them keeping the party alive (if you let your party die in a hard place then you'll probably also die).

you should try partying, it's fun. :)
you also get some nice bluffs that really help the party a lot. i think acolyte is one class that really needs to be pllayed in a party to get the most effect out of it.




4) Quests
Quests need to give exp... plain and simpile ALL quests should give exp.... even if its just giving a person i letter you should still get a little exp maybe 2%....



a lot of quests do give exp. I agree the quests could be improved a bit, i'd actually more like to see items from quests

[Ryokosha]

I haven't see any quest give me over 1000 kron yet and I'm lvl 27.
I make over 30k kron an hr just lvling and selling the loot.

But I wasn't talking about money reward, my bad, i should have been specific, I meant exp wise. Work 30min do to a quest and it gives 1%, really not worth it.
I guess it gets worse later in the game?
Almost all level 16 quests give 1000-5000 kron. ^^'
The letter quest (which is repeatable) gives 5000 kron each time...

[Rivierian]

I agree with Zeltar, the quest items need a higher drop rate. You can leave the equip drop rate where it is, but if the quest items dropped more then the quests could be done quicker and you would not need a huge amount of exp each time. Also, an in game list of all the quests you can do at your level as well as a list of which ones you have finished, and which ones can we done again would be nice, if it isn't too much trouble. I know open beta just opened and the GMs are probably busy with other things.

[4346t]

More drops for quest items would be nice, like the one for the clown nose, it took me FOREVER to get the cherries >:(

[Shiryou]

More drops for quest items would be nice, like the one for the clown nose, it took me FOREVER to get the cherries >:(

I agree with that...I've still have 5 cherries and haven't gotten more either :/...

[SamBob]

Or at least let us kill a certain monster to get them... It's hard just doing it by sheer luck, because people start begging for them... (not begging, but asking ^^)

[sicmonkey7]

Ya i hate the quest drop rate... i still only have 3 cherries and ive been doing that quest for 2 days :)

[Shiryou]

Ya i hate the quest drop rate... i still only have 3 cherries and ive been doing that quest for 2 days :)

every time I get a cherry I end up having to use it because I'm running low on pots X|...

[Ryokosha]

Very costy considering that they are worth like 1000 on player vend...

[Lost_Sage]

here are my tips for improving SoS:
1. Chage Slash to Thrustings (a squire seems to thrust the sword into the enemy than slash it...)
2. Blindside to Blindsight (sounds cooler and it makes more sense since when you lose sight, you can't see, muchless move...)
3. More exp gain (this goes for the high lvs: getting exp at lv30+ becomes really hard as monsters are really strong and you don't get much exp from killing them. This is espessially for acolytes that cannnot kill anything strong by themselves.)
4. Neophlytes (they seem to be a little overpowered compared to other classes, so GMs, you might consider to strength the other 3 classes.)

[Darkheart579]

I think you guys have done a great job makin the game but heres what i think u need to do to make it better.

1) WASD
I hate having to keep clicking and clicking just to move around and when theres people in the way........... just please put WASD to move in please.

2) More skills
When u are lvling its hard enough(once you get to a high lvl) to lvl, but whats the point to lvling when all you get is 1 to 2 stat points after all that hard work, every 5 to 10 lvls you get a skill, thats just horrible, all you do is spam 1 ability all the time.... over and over again... u should get a new ability or at lest an upgrade to one every 2 lvls... like WoW(world of warcraft) that way u have more of a viritaty of skills to use.

3) EXP
At lvl 17 i went to the best place to lvl(with 100 mana pots) after 10 minutes of killing and killing i had used 51 mana pots and only got up to 23% to lvl 18(i was at 0% when i came), and my spells only do about 41-50 damage and use 8 mana.... You might just be wanted to make it really really hard to lvl but it just gets old of hitting the same ability over and over again so i can lvl 5 times so i can get a new skill..... Make the exp rate higher or damage higher(i can only say this for a Acolyte)

4) Quests
Quests need to give exp... plain and simpile ALL quests should give exp.... even if its just giving a person i letter you should still get a little exp maybe 2%....

5) More stat points
When its so hard to lvl and you only get about 1 or 2 stat points its not worth it... you should get more arong 3 to 4 a lvl

This is game is a great game and with a little improvement i think it could be one of the best free mmorpgs out there....

Got news for you kid, This isn't WoW Last Time I checked. If you don't liek the way things roll around here, good for you! I think everythings fine. Its not that hard to level, and the more exp you need, the more appreciating a lower level is.

[bigdominic18]

sure appreciatin when that little message pops up for a new quest i miss playin already "sigh"

[DragonMan949]

i think that little message is really annoying, can there be a way to prevent that button from popping up?

[sjk88]

My suggestions...
Raising the drop rates on quest items would be great

Also, putting in more info in the quest log, some of them just don't make much sense. All we would need is the name of the mob we're supposed to kill, where it should be located, & the name of the item we have to get, some of the quests don't even have that much info in them

The leveling I think is fine, maybe increase the xp from monsters by a bit, but not much

I would LOVE to see some better healing items in the game (fruits/pots), I'm getting real tired of dying because I'm getting hit for more than my pots can recover

That's all I can think of for now.
Otherwise, this seems like a great game, & I am enjoying it alot so far :)