The Greatest Pvper of All Time

[bronx90]

Now I have been with Windslayer since the year of 2008 (wow time flew by lol) fast forward to the current year 2011 there's not much going on except pvping, old players recreating there selves as new players (lol) and a lot of arguing b/t old friends. Nevertheless, we're all a family in a weird way and we do look out for each other (hopefully). With that being said i created this topic b/c i think it is time to discuss who is pretty much the greatest pvper..of all time. The greatest pvper should not only have amazing melee skills and perfect precise timing on skill usage but should also have influential power that could inspire others i guess you could say (lol). the combination of pvp skills and influential power is what truly makes a pvper the greatest.Now that's not the case all the time but if we're gonna dig into windslayers history to remember the all time greats for that certain year, then it is require. First, lets start with your opinion on the single greatest pvper for their class. By the way guys can you really think about this instead of silly replies..thnx :)

Greatest Berserker of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Paladin of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Elementalist of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Summoner of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Sniper of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest BeastMaster of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Assassin of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Trapper of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Bishop of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Dark Priest of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Shaolin of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Counter of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Novice of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Overall Pvper of All Time
1. Individuals Name


When you pick that individual, they should also epitomize their class to pure perfection along with their distinct melee skills that makes them instantly recognizable..have fun,think hard and good luck.

[star4242]

No. No one can be the best. I avoid Threads like this, but frankly, I couln't resist. No body can be the best. Simple. You can go on a boast about who they picked but it won't matter. If there was a "best", They would be able to handle teaming and spammers. Of course without whining about it. :P I dun wanna be a nub nor pro I just wanna have fun. But trolls and showoffs ruin the "fun" part of pvp. Now its all about Whose better than who. You may not have noticed but there was a Large flame war That talked about nothing, but Who's better than who. But since its the internet, im not gonna stop you, But before you know it, it will become a flame war. You have been warned.

[bronx90]

i understand what you are saying lol listen there are classes design for singles and classes design to handle a mob of teamers so that shouldn't be included in this topic and come on this'll be fun to discuss if it happens to spark a inferno they should also voice their opinion and keep it moving..i also wanted to make another point..even though we can all defeat each other i don't want that to be a reason to express your opinion :)..like i mention before a combination of great melee skills,influential power,staying power and the amount of impact from the time you started and forth is what must be consider in this topic :)

[star4242]

No. The impact i gave is what people give nowadays. There's no point arguing about pvp when the game is in a bad state. Pvp in general is broken. It needs tweaking here and there.

[Simmy]

You be trolling OP!

[sparkcash1.2]

Greatest BM: Gamb!t -haters flock-

[star4242]

Gambit srsly? You aren't the best. You can't takedown a 10 on 1 like deo did XD

[bronx90]

the best serker i've seen ever that was freaking beastly and really primal like was jacked in his prime there was nothing that epitomise berserker more than jacked...mvffiny was the only trapper that was a genius in tactical combat..zaraki still to this day the all great bm he was undefeated as far as i'm concerned..counter goes to suldo (windslayer's chuck norris)...shaolin goes to eddo (windslayer's bruce lee)..it's extremely hard to say whos the greatest in the ele,summoner,bishop,darkpriest category so that's left unexplain..now assassin is a tricky one now normally to be honest the sin that really took it to the next lvl was xratmax..and before rat it was dagger..the only sin i could say is more influential than all of them is los (extremely debatable )..umm assassin is left unexplainable also..there's others like sim,lullably.etc.etc.etc but nothing really stands out with the sins

[star4242]

Jacked was alright. Suldo is my favorited match with a monk (For once) I know zaraki since this game came a loooooooog time ago. For assassin you picked simmiel. Pfft. As in dagger were you talking about DaggerStar?

[doki_]

iTamed Zaraki. And all he does is run. He's like BabyPoP.
I'm confused on how player like Zaraki. is viewed as "MVP" but BabyPoP isn't viewed as "MVP."
BabyPoP Alt+F4. Zaraki doesn't. Is that clearly the difference?
To say Zaraki is MVP is to say BabyPoP is MVP.

Paladin : Zero,Doki,Dino.
BeastMaster : Tamer.
DarkPriest : Pervert,Kleenex
Novice : DinoSlayer,Justin(NOT THE SIN), Christian ,The_Truth

[bronx90]

Jacked was alright. Suldo is my favorited match with a monk (For once) I know zaraki since this game came a loooooooog time ago. For assassin you picked simmiel. Pfft. As in dagger were you talking about DaggerStar?

Actually i'm referring to daggerjoe..if that's you then man..you were pretty awesome in gng so gj paving the way lol

[star4242]

Actually i'm referring to daggerjoe..if that's you then man..you were pretty awesome in gng so gj paving the way lol

I did defeat daggerjoe once. I remember people cheering my Fastman on. XD

[bronx90]

because for a really long time, zaraki was undefeated i'm not sure if that was the case now but thinking 3 years ago or 4 years...he was way ahead of his time..all the bm's today was doing pretty much what zaraki did in 07 but he was way more fluid lol..there's no denying he pave the way..but it seems after gng era left..he left too

[bronx90]

okay here's my list because i thought it out and this is my opinion after i brainstorm thoroughly..future posters please do the same

Greatest Berserker of All Time (Melee Skills,Impact and Influential combined)
1.Jacked (yes zerkers are beatable however, lets be honest who didn't run from him so you won't be caught in his grab combo that never fail..me and a lot of others were legitimately scared to be eaten)

Greatest Paladin of All Time (Melee Skills, amazing impact, minimal influence)
1. Danger ( now he was one of those individuals that came and went but left a scar in the community because there was no other paladin that show such fearsome melee skills but show such calmness in the same token. The name says it all. he's dangerous w/o shield..with shield..he's danger lol)

Greatest Beastmaster of All Time ( Superior Range Skills, Superior Impact, Greatest Influence)
1. Zaraki ( Name another bm that was undefeated..if i was that good in that time period i would've quit too lol)

Greatest Sniper of All Time ( Unhuman Range Skills, Minimal Impact, Minimal Influence)
1. Bullet ( Only Sniper ever..i mean ever..that has perfect accuracy..never miss his target..could be a korean spy and i wouldn't doubt if he's the greatest sniper there either..even greater than zaraki's..problem is no one heard of him)

Greatest Elementalist of All Time (Terrible Melee Skills,Team Battle Genius, Great Impact, Min.Influence)
1. Monster ( in singles she's normal..like a normal chick..in team battles..a monster..thats why she was named monster..that's why people run to the waiting rooms why she arrives..and she also gave birth to people suicide ranting lol)

Greatest Summoner of All Time (Melee Skills,Impact and Influential Combined)
1. Lux Summoner ( another monster with additional melee skills in her arsenal..maybe the only one to master summoner tricks and has such amazing intuitions to time every skill at the right time to blow you away while your off guard)

I'm skipping the healers since there's nothing that stood out or made a huge impact whatsoever

Greatest Counter of All Time (Amazing melee skills, Amazing Impact, Amazing Influential power)
1. Suldo ( now suldo was a legend in gng..he could of hung it up there..in the middle of beta era he comes back..being defeated left and right..now he could of just say F IT and leave..what's amazing to me is the fact that he-re invented his self to a more complete version of his gng prime..no he's even better..his many battles cause him to seriously evolved into a 1 min killing machine..yes he spams but it's always perfect timing lol..chuck norris simply put)

Greatest Shoalin of All Time ( Godly Melee Skills, Superior Impact and Influence)
1. Eddo ( one thing you need to know..he was always the best in all eras (gng,beta,glitch)..always..no matter how long he's been away or gone..he was just the best..old combos still work and still killing everyone in his path..in my book he's debatable to be the greatest pvper ever..bruce lee simply put)

Greatest Trapper of All Time (Crappy Melee Skills,Amazing Impact,0 Influence because no one likes him)
1. Mvffiny ( Yes he really does sck alot of balls in melee..however how does he win in single,tournament,mass pvp arenas? b/c he knows exactly what your gonna do,what he's gonna do and how the match is gonna end..he is the tactical genius in windslayer period..and has proven to be a threat by sheer brainpower lol)

Greatest Assassin of All Time (Amazing Melee Skills, Minimal Impact, Amazing Influence)
1. LoS ( the most skilled sin..ever..quickest..ever...maybe most respected b/c of perfect timing to influence a whole beta era..there is no other sin that can pull off a win when it really matters and make it epic more than los..this is just my opinion and might not be the best but when were talking about greatest..there's no denying that los stood the test of time and evolve into the greatest)

[bronx90]

I did defeat daggerjoe once. I remember people cheering my Fastman on. XD

lol yeah i think i was there for that

[sparkcash1.2]

zaraki is just word to these people XD every1 makes it look like u watch him pvp alot of you barely joined this game trapperstar i aint ever heard of you lol zaraki is gone he aint coming back gambs gone 2 though so duki got it now

[Simmy]

For assassin you picked simmiel. Pfft. As in dagger were you talking about DaggerStar?

he didn't pick me, learn to read

and he would never chose you, you're not good at PvP at all.

it's the person actually named Dagger... Rat and dagger were the sins i took skills from, but I've made my own now, and they seem to do well.

[star4242]

he didn't pick me, learn to read

and he would never chose you, you're not good at PvP at all.

it's the person actually named Dagger... Rat and dagger were the sins i took skills from, but I've made my own now, and they seem to do well.

I dun really care cus that's your opinion. I am actually getting the hang of being a trapper :P
and if he did i wonder how many people will detest him hm?
Also, please pick better insults if you are going to insult me. "Learn to read" is pretty pathetic.

[longhairdontcare1]

cant be a greatest of all time because how do you know if the good people that are playing right now can or coulda beat the people yall are putting up now because i see alot of older players that don't really play nomore and idk maybe its just me but i think frowsty is better then mvff and that smokey kid is more of a challenge then suldo #justsaying and as far as eles sums go that cant really count now neither without the oldfastcast ALOT of the older casters was better then all these new one's and some people dont get the props they deserve like i know alot of unknown people that are really great but nobody pays attention to a nobody because when they get beat its always some lame excuse i didnt try or you spammed skills

[bronx90]

cant be a greatest of all time because how do you know if the good people that are playing right now can or coulda beat the people yall are putting up now because i see alot of older players that don't really play nomore and idk maybe its just me but i think frowsty is better then mvff and that smokey kid is more of a challenge then suldo #justsaying and as far as eles sums go that cant really count now neither without the oldfastcast ALOT of the older casters was better then all these new one's and some people dont get the props they deserve like i know alot of unknown people that are really great but nobody pays attention to a nobody because when they get beat its always some lame excuse i didnt try or you spammed skills

which is why i made my list with these three things taken into consideration
1.Melee Skills
2. Influential Power
3. Impact

So yes your right about the possibility of other players that're greater than the ones i mention on my list but overall those players mention are most suitable

[doki_]

Greatest Berserker of All Time
1. iDon'tCare. Just Spam

Greatest Paladin of All Time
1. Doki,Zero,or DinoSlayer.

Greatest Elementalist of All Time
1. iDon'tCare. Just Spam.

Greatest Summoner of All Time
1. iDon'tCare. Just Spam.

Greatest Sniper of All Time
1. iDon't pay attention to Snipers.

Greatest BeastMaster of All Time
1. Tamer. or SpiritBeTrue

Greatest Assassin of All Time
1. Rat. <.<

Greatest Trapper of All Time
1. Frowsty.

Greatest Bishop of All Time
1. Frowsty's Bishop : Snoopy.

Greatest Dark Priest of All Time
1. Pervert,Kleenex,or GauGe.

Greatest Shaolin of All Time
1. Qitarah aka "Queen."

Greatest Counter of All Time
1. Suldo

Greatest Novice of All Time
1. DinoSlayer,Christian,Justin, or The_Truth

Greatest Overall Pvper of All Time
1. Whomever uses a Woody with well enough NovicePvP Skills.

[doki_]

because for a really long time, zaraki was undefeated i'm not sure if that was the case now but thinking 3 years ago or 4 years...he was way ahead of his time..all the bm's today was doing pretty much what zaraki did in 07 but he was way more fluid lol..there's no denying he pave the way..but it seems after gng era left..he left too
WindSlayer '09 OpenBeta. WindSlayer just open'd.
Anyone who was/is from GnG.
Was granted access to the title,"Pro." quickly and easily.

Why?
They play'd the game before 90-95% of the rest of the "OutSpark WindSlayer."
They had an upper-hand in Lvlin',PvP,Quests,Etc.
This is somethin' a lot people didn't kno' 'bout ; GnG.
Mvff gott'em real mad for the Pupp/Stun(ORIGINAL -> Instant Kill). The one now is modify'd.lol.


If you clash in together :
GnG + OutSpark WindSlayer + NO GLITCH/BUG AT ALL.
You'd see most of the GnG Mates would fall/fail/fallen/R.I.P.

[star4242]

Well i made MagicBoyEx and DeathBoy back then.. good times...

[bronx90]

Greatest Berserker of All Time
1. iDon'tCare. Just Spam

Greatest Paladin of All Time
1. Doki,Zero,or DinoSlayer.

Greatest Elementalist of All Time
1. iDon'tCare. Just Spam.

Greatest Summoner of All Time
1. iDon'tCare. Just Spam.

Greatest Sniper of All Time
1. iDon't pay attention to Snipers.

Greatest BeastMaster of All Time
1. Tamer. or SpiritBeTrue

Greatest Assassin of All Time
1. Rat. <.<

Greatest Trapper of All Time
1. Frowsty.

Greatest Bishop of All Time
1. Frowsty's Bishop : Snoopy.

Greatest Dark Priest of All Time
1. Pervert,Kleenex,or GauGe.

Greatest Shaolin of All Time
1. Qitarah aka "Queen."

Greatest Counter of All Time
1. Suldo

Greatest Novice of All Time
1. DinoSlayer,Christian,Justin, or The_Truth

Greatest Overall Pvper of All Time
1. Whomever uses a Woody with well enough NovicePvP Skills.

interesting list..the majority of it is you lol..

[bronx90]

WindSlayer '09 OpenBeta. WindSlayer just open'd.
Anyone who was/is from GnG.
Was granted access to the title,"Pro." quickly and easily.

Why?
They play'd the game before 90-95% of the rest of the "OutSpark WindSlayer."
They had an upper-hand in Lvlin',PvP,Quests,Etc.
This is somethin' a lot people didn't kno' 'bout ; GnG.
Mvff gott'em real mad for the Pupp/Stun(ORIGINAL -> Instant Kill). The one now is modify'd.lol.


If you clash in together :
GnG + OutSpark WindSlayer + NO GLITCH/BUG AT ALL.
You'd see most of the GnG Mates would fall/fail/fallen/R.I.P.

i can't really speak for most of the gng'ers but as far as the ones on my list (mvff,suldo,zaraki,los,eddo,) these are the few that did contribute to the way the game is play today b/c of what they did early on in 09. they were infact a standard setter for outspark pvpers to make their own so a lot of praise and respect comes their way for that fact alone..which is not a bad thing really..now in this year they're alot of new modified combos that're interesting and is orginated from the countless bugs ws gather over last year which is sad b/c now any class especially trappers can win to a pro that's been here for 3 years..but my theory was always this..gng players will always evolve and always be up to date on everything plus they have additional exp from gng days..they will always be on top lol...and your list is super funny..you put yourself as the greatest in pretty much every other class imao..give me another list that's more debatable

[doki_]

interesting list..the majority of it is you lol..

B'kuz iTamed,HolyStruck'd for those spots.

[doki_]

i can't really speak for most of the gng'ers but as far as the ones on my list (mvff,suldo,zaraki,los,eddo,) these are the few that did contribute to the way the game is play today b/c of what they did early on in 09. they were infact a standard setter for outspark pvpers to make their own so a lot of praise and respect comes their way for that fact alone..which is not a bad thing really..now in this year they're alot of new modified combos that're interesting and is orginated from the countless bugs ws gather over last year which is sad b/c now any class especially trappers can win to a pro that's been here for 3 years..but my theory was always this..gng players will always evolve and always be up to date on everything plus they have additional exp from gng days..they will always be on top lol...and your list is super funny..you put yourself as the greatest in pretty much every other class imao..give me another list that's more debatable
You put down 5ive GnG'rs only. iKno' moar.
New Modified Combo? Only thing added was Critical/Luck System + Modified Puppet for Trapper. Thats'it.

Only GnG'r good enough for their position is Suldo. The rest have been beaten by another of their own Job or could be beaten.

I'm not thee "Greatest."
I'm just one of the "Greatest <Jobb'r> of All Time." if not Thee Greatest <Jobb'r> of All Time.


Debatable?[Checks your list]
Paladin : Danger.
Danger was noted as one of the first Paladin with BakaHentai later had change his name into BAKAKAMISAMA..
Fact : Danger had WoodySkill equal'd of Jobb'r.
Jobb'r Woody Vs NovicePvP'r. Winner : NovicePvP'r.
Fact 2 : iBeat him at Woody in NovicePvP.
DinoSlayer,Doki,Zero would win. If thats'the "best" Paladin you have in mind.

BeastMaster : Zaraki
He was known quite well in PvP and killin' off #s of players when he's the last one.
Oh,wait. Any BeastMaster was capable of that even Archers and Snipers.
Fact : iKamiKazi'd and Tamed him.
Fact 2 : He likes to run.
Is there any other BeastMasters you can think of?

Counter : Suldo.
iAgree. Then it'd be Smokey.

Shaolin : Eddo.
Eddo. was one of the already established names due to GnG.
Funny thing is,Eddo is scared of Qitarah aka Queen.
Fact : Qitarah kill'd Eddo. She was only Lv44(Lv41 in STD PvP) :P (iWas helpin' her lvl~)
Fact 2 : Eddo was in disbelief when Qitarah came back and said somethin' in his BuddyList.
Go ahead and ask Eddo. 'bout Qitarah.

Trapper : Mvffiny.
You really love those GnG'rs don'tchu?
Frowsty,hands'down.

Sin : LoS
Rat hands'down.

[star4242]

Meh, Drop the Gng players. Leave them as legends. Most of them don play anymore :P

[doki_]

Aye,don't use my word "Legend."
Gtfo.

[bronx90]

You put down 5ive GnG'rs only. iKno' moar.
New Modified Combo? Only thing added was Critical/Luck System + Modified Puppet for Trapper. Thats'it.

Only GnG'r good enough for their position is Suldo. The rest have been beaten by another of their own Job or could be beaten.

I'm not thee "Greatest."
I'm just one of the "Greatest <Jobb'r> of All Time." if not Thee Greatest <Jobb'r> of All Time.


Debatable?[Checks your list]
Paladin : Danger.
Danger was noted as one of the first Paladin with BakaHentai later had change his name into BAKAKAMISAMA..
Fact : Danger had WoodySkill equal'd of Jobb'r.
Jobb'r Woody Vs NovicePvP'r. Winner : NovicePvP'r.
Fact 2 : iBeat him at Woody in NovicePvP.
DinoSlayer,Doki,Zero would win. If thats'the "best" Paladin you have in mind.

BeastMaster : Zaraki
He was known quite well in PvP and killin' off #s of players when he's the last one.
Oh,wait. Any BeastMaster was capable of that even Archers and Snipers.
Fact : iKamiKazi'd and Tamed him.
Fact 2 : He likes to run.
Is there any other BeastMasters you can think of?

Counter : Suldo.
iAgree. Then it'd be Smokey.

Shaolin : Eddo.
Eddo. was one of the already established names due to GnG.
Funny thing is,Eddo is scared of Qitarah aka Queen.
Fact : Qitarah kill'd Eddo. She was only Lv44(Lv41 in STD PvP) :P (iWas helpin' her lvl~)
Fact 2 : Eddo was in disbelief when Qitarah came back and said somethin' in his BuddyList.
Go ahead and ask Eddo. 'bout Qitarah.

Trapper : Mvffiny.
You really love those GnG'rs don'tchu?
Frowsty,hands'down.

Sin : LoS
Rat hands'down.

your right about the combo statement. totally agree

truth about suldo is this..he's a cart abuser meaning his combat is manifested towards cart which 9 times out of ten makes him unbeatable..nevertheless still a amazing fighter

another thing before i get into this is your looking at everything from one perspective only..melee skills and who can beat who which is fine but all the other pvper's you mention didn't have any or as strong as a influence or made any sort of impact b/c it was done before by pretty much the ones i mention on my list..except for rat he made his own legacy


danger: despite every fact you claim he's a well balanced paladin if you can give me one better from an infleuntial level and impact level..name them

zaraki: the first to do it all..influence a era...and you say you tamed him..how often?..he runs?..bm runs all the time it's what you do to gather more distance and more range..his place stays b/c you really can't take absolutely nothing from this guy..what he did for his time period from that early of a phase was incredible and inspiring..you see all these bms today that're really good or maybe better but you can't help but wonder what if zaraki was here will he still pull out a win..and you won't b/c he quit which makes his legacy even stronger

Frowsty: Awesome awesome pvper..he has about 3 more characters that i know of and he's pwns in those too which makes him a all around class fighter..only question is and this is important..as w/e class you pick it's important to epitomise the characteristics and mannerisms of w/e class you manage to create and although frowsty is awesome he's not fit to be label as the greatest trapper but maybe could be the greatest pvper..so is frowsty the greatest trapper ever w/ influential and impact along w/ melee skills combiine?..no..greatest pvper?...maybe..which is why i pick mvffiny over frowsty

Rat: Can't take nothing away from this guy he was amazing and revolutionize a popular combo..rat is more suited for the greatest in the beta era as oppose to the greatest of all time..another thing is if you knew rat..rat will tell you that los train him and they came up with the combo together it just so happens that rat made it popular as while los stay in the shadows..what also takes the title away from rat as greatest sin is his staying power..which wasn't very long at all..in rat's prime him and los were equal..rat leaves so who's the best now?..rat has incredible impact..but not as inspiring as los..all in all when you combine every aspect of what it takes to be label as the greatest..los slightly wins..

[bronx90]

another thing is just b/c a really great pvper can defeat the ones on my list doesn't mean anything b/c one alot has change from the early phases there's more bugs and more lags so a slight slip up or error can be a dynamic moment and can be a loss..which is why a majority of ppl quit

[star4242]

Aye,don't use my word "Legend."
Gtfo.

No. Next? :P

[ola_swirl]

B'kuz iTamed,HolyStruck'd for those spots.

I don't agree with the voice of your ego, I don't think you're that strong, especially in a 1v1 environment. And don't challenge me as I've beaten you more than once using various different characters.

[doki_]

another thing before i get into this is your looking at everything from one perspective only..melee skills and who can beat who which is fine but all the other pvper's you mention didn't have any or as strong as a influence or made any sort of impact b/c it was done before by pretty much the ones i mention on my list..except for rat he made his own legacy


danger: despite every fact you claim he's a well balanced paladin if you can give me one better from an infleuntial level and impact level..name them

zaraki: the first to do it all..influence a era...and you say you tamed him..how often?..he runs?..bm runs all the time it's what you do to gather more distance and more range..his place stays b/c you really can't take absolutely nothing from this guy..what he did for his time period from that early of a phase was incredible and inspiring..you see all these bms today that're really good or maybe better but you can't help but wonder what if zaraki was here will he still pull out a win..and you won't b/c he quit which makes his legacy even stronger

Frowsty: Awesome awesome pvper..he has about 3 more characters that i know of and he's pwns in those too which makes him a all around class fighter..only question is and this is important..as w/e class you pick it's important to epitomise the characteristics and mannerisms of w/e class you manage to create and although frowsty is awesome he's not fit to be label as the greatest trapper but maybe could be the greatest pvper..so is frowsty the greatest trapper ever w/ influential and impact along w/ melee skills combiine?..no..greatest pvper?...maybe..which is why i pick mvffiny over frowsty

Rat: Can't take nothing away from this guy he was amazing and revolutionize a popular combo..rat is more suited for the greatest in the beta era as oppose to the greatest of all time..another thing is if you knew rat..rat will tell you that los train him and they came up with the combo together it just so happens that rat made it popular as while los stay in the shadows..what also takes the title away from rat as greatest sin is his staying power..which wasn't very long at all..in rat's prime him and los were equal..rat leaves so who's the best now?..rat has incredible impact..but not as inspiring as los..all in all when you combine every aspect of what it takes to be label as the greatest..los slightly wins..
Why would a player need impact to win in STD,Same Jobb'r 1v1.
Thats'Dumb.
Thats'like sayin' "Doki" is the best Novice of all time b'kuz he had the most impact ~ Opinion. Which is neither Fact or False.
iHad the biggest impact as a Novice. ~ Fact.
However,iWas beaten by others,too. DinoSlayer,Christian,My pupils : Truth,Crazed,Justin.
And many others. ~ Fact

This "Impact/Influence" isn't STD,1v1.
Its'moar like,"Who's most well-known."
If thats'the case. Mind changin' your 1st post with that type of stuff in bold,please?

Danger was kool with meh but he isn't the best 1v1,STD Paladin. You just said so yourself,so thank you.

BeastMasters don't needa run. iHate BMs who constantly run off your screen or keep goin' up and up(Jump+StrongAttack). Its'irkin' and... Fail BM.

Thats'where Woody comes'in hand for close-combat.
Whychu think stated/nominated Tamer. or SpiritBeTrue ?
He didn't "quit." He was on in January '11.
iWas on Pervert TeamPvP.
iTold him iWas Tamer. and goin' get him iCame back with Tamer. iGot on the other side and he "Leave Arena."
So,with that you can kneel before me like he did or you can leaf like him.

Mvffiny < Frowsty.
You thro' in Mvffiny again,Imma thro' in NeoShadow next.

Sin. Don'tCare. iJust said Rat b'kuz he's like 1 of the Sins that gave meh trouble when 1v1in' a Sin off my Tamer.

This is popularity(If more people agree)/well-known contest. Thats'all.

[longhairdontcare1]

for once i agree wit doki this is all popularity because if u want to say mvff was good how about the pops they used a combo that mvff used alot but pops made it better so does that make pop better?

[doki_]

I don't agree with the voice of your ego, I don't think you're that strong, especially in a 1v1 environment. And don't challenge me as I've beaten you more than once using various different characters.

iDon't agree with your voice of cowardice b'kuz iAm not Coward such as yourself,
iDon't think.Wait,iDo KNO'' you're not strong enough to beat me in 1v1 environment.
iDon't even needa 1v1(again) you b'kuz iKno' for fact,I'd win b'kuz iAlso hid on various characters beatin' you. ~ Lol...ITS'FUNNEH.
He can beat me on hiding characters but he can't beat me exposed.
iGuess iBeat everyone on that list while hidin'. Even Suldo,wait not Suldo,lol [Hides].
Forget this list.
I'm goin' start usin' that : I BEAT YOU ON VARIOUS CHARACTERS WHILE HIDING BUT I AM NOT GOING TO ONE VS ONE YOU AS "ME."


We never 1v1. This is same class,STD,1v1. Oh,wait,nvrm. Its'by most impact.
Therefore,you would lose to meh. Sorry,mate. iDon't even kno' who you :confused:
Oh,and unless you got Paladin,BeastMaster,DarkPriest.
You're unable to compete with me for Top DP/Pally/BM.

[doki_]

for once i agree wit doki this is all popularity because if u want to say mvff was good how about the pops they used a combo that mvff used alot but pops made it better so does that make pop better?

To say zaraki is best BeastMaster.
Is to say BabyPoP BeastMaster is equal.
.iTamed her twice-three times.
Now,iCan't kill her.
She just Alt+F4s and gets'the trapper.

[star4242]

This is why i hate threads like these... >.>

[doki_]

This is why i hate threads like these... >.>

Oh,And don't challenge me as I've beaten you more than once using various different characters.[/QUOTE]

Yeah,iHate threads'like these b'kuz is it just me..
or is it the Topic Owner messes up the real meanin' of "Who is the best of each class?"

Btw....
who is bronz90?

[star4242]

Oh,And don't challenge me as I've beaten you more than once using various different characters.

Yeah,iHate threads'like these b'kuz is it just me..
or is it the Topic Owner messes up the real meanin' of "Who is the best of each class?"

Btw....
who is bronz90?

Bleh, i dunno, another cazoup? :P Pfft i don't care. its just a game get over it :)

[bronx90]

Why would a player need impact to win in STD,Same Jobb'r 1v1.
Thats'Dumb.
Thats'like sayin' "Doki" is the best Novice of all time b'kuz he had the most impact ~ Opinion. Which is neither Fact or False.
iHad the biggest impact as a Novice. ~ Fact.
However,iWas beaten by others,too. DinoSlayer,Christian,My pupils : Truth,Crazed,Justin.
And many others. ~ Fact

This "Impact/Influence" isn't STD,1v1.
Its'moar like,"Who's most well-known."
If thats'the case. Mind changin' your 1st post with that type of stuff in bold,please?

Danger was kool with meh but he isn't the best 1v1,STD Paladin. You just said so yourself,so thank you.

BeastMasters don't needa run. iHate BMs who constantly run off your screen or keep goin' up and up(Jump+StrongAttack). Its'irkin' and... Fail BM.

Thats'where Woody comes'in hand for close-combat.
Whychu think stated/nominated Tamer. or SpiritBeTrue ?
He didn't "quit." He was on in January '11.
iWas on Pervert TeamPvP.
iTold him iWas Tamer. and goin' get him iCame back with Tamer. iGot on the other side and he "Leave Arena."
So,with that you can kneel before me like he did or you can leaf like him.

Mvffiny < Frowsty.
You thro' in Mvffiny again,Imma thro' in NeoShadow next.

Sin. Don'tCare. iJust said Rat b'kuz he's like 1 of the Sins that gave meh trouble when 1v1in' a Sin off my Tamer.

This is popularity(If more people agree)/well-known contest. Thats'all.

Let me make a quick statement to the ones that posted on this topic (my topic) when we're talking about the greatest of all time class pvpers and greatest altogether,this isn't going to to be a breezy walk in the park type of conversation but extremely controversial and a heated debate also because a lot of people's opinion varies vastly. With that being said, i do respect everyone's opinion and part of discussing this is to understand one another.

Now as far as this just being a popularity contest, that's not the case by even a long shot.

Doki you've play this game just as long as i have if not longer so you should know by now that with enough experience anyone is capable of beating anyone therefore making a list about the greatest of all time pointless if we're judging just from one of the three main important factors. It's extremely important to include the other two factors and by default, the well known pvpers were pick because of perfect timing..now being the greatest doesn't mean your undefeated but you've excel in every factor possible. It's the only way we can judge and pinpoint who's the greatest of all time by having standard bearers and from there discuss who's better in one factor (that being melee). Now if you've done and put time into your character (that being melee skills, impact, influence and excel to greater proportions than the ones mention on my list) and been here for a certain amount of years, they too will be noted as one of the greatest. It's just the way things work. The same applies to everything else we (as in critics ) rank in this world (music, sports, games, etc)

Danger: Now I've mention him on my list but if i thought of another individual who's on his caliber,then silent comes toe to toe

Zaraki: If you've defeated him does that make him less special? is this where you're going? regardless if you've beat him and succeed congrats.Nowadays, he'll be beat again over and over but that wouldn't take nothing away from him at all because It's not about who can beat who but how much of an impact you made and did it successfully.Now as a melee fighter he's good at that also. Do you see where i'm going with this? He's all around great in every factor i mention which is melee skills, impact and influence which is regardless of what you say,extremely important.

Neoshadows: Neo is more melee skills than brains which is why mvffiny definitely stood out from the rest. i witness one fight where he outsmarted neoshadows. Taking nothing away from neo. He is another great fighter but from what i witness, defeated more times than he defeated mvffiny

Now Doki I'm confuse about this one issue.Do you happen to be justin, christian, dinoslayer in novice pvp? It says so on your attachment list

As for the people that doesn't like threads like these is unfortunate because discussion for a particular topic like this one,should require some sort of heated intensity.Especially if we're talking about the greatest.

[bronx90]

Now here's my list for the final 2 categories:

Greatest Novice of all Time (Greatest Melee Skill *prime*, Great Impact and Influence)
1. Justin ( well i could say alot about Justin but i'll summarize exactly how he became Justin..had a round with los and was defeated badly, was told to be the best, work on his skills, played korea ws to improve his skills, became the best there? *i'm not really sure on that part*, came back and the rest was history. Now technically he came and went however, he left a mark that wasn't duplicated)

Greatest Pvper of all Time
I will not comment on this one because i took a hiatus from windslayer and within those months of hiatus, there were alot of ppl i miss out on (woob,swagg,bravers,etc etc) from what i was told they had just about every class and master the skills while maintaining their melee combat but from what I've saw and witness, Blue ( now this was completely bias lol so this is just personal opinion as oppose to a analyze opinion)

[doki_]

I'm not Justin,DinoSlayer,and/or Christian.

Only factor iPut in is :
1v1,STD,No Jewelery,Flat Area. ~ Amakusa Top Middle is best area unless you're a mage usin' Teleport.
iDon'tCare for the impact,influence. Just that single,one and only KO.
Thats'all.

Woob hid on most characters so A LOT players didn't kno' he had other classes but the classes h exposed himself as.

Edit : Well,if this is goin' be Impact,Influence. iCan make a different list.

[longhairdontcare1]

Now here's my list for the final 2 categories:

Greatest Novice of all Time (Greatest Melee Skill *prime*, Great Impact and Influence)
1. Justin ( well i could say alot about Justin but i'll summarize exactly how he became Justin..had a round with los and was defeated badly, was told to be the best, work on his skills, played korea ws to improve his skills, became the best there? *i'm not really sure on that part*, came back and the rest was history. Now technically he came and went however, he left a mark that wasn't duplicated)

Greatest Pvper of all Time
I will not comment on this one because i took a hiatus from windslayer and within those months of hiatus, there were alot of ppl i miss out on (woob,swagg,bravers,etc etc) from what i was told they had just about every class and master the skills while maintaining their melee combat but from what I've saw and witness, Blue ( now this was completely bias lol so this is just personal opinion as oppose to a analyze opinion)

lol thx for saying my name (swagg btw) hehe i did master every class was in top 3 of all the classes i played at the time but i dont want to start sumthin and say i was the best of all time but i was good ;)

[meerakulz212]

Most of the skilled PvPers have already been mentioned, and I'd just like to name some more for consideration: PhoKing (berserker), Prolific (sniper), Galad (dark priest), Trii (summoner), Hinamori (trapper)

These mentions are the judgement of my own opinion, and I do realize that other may opine differently. This does not mean I am calling them out as incorrect, seeing as they most likely judge by a very different set of criteria.

Note that I only started playing during the first Closed Beta of the Outspark version, and as such, am unfamiliar with some of the more famous GnG and Avocado players.

Berserker: Jack3d certainly capped raw damage output as a Berserker, but I cannot praise his defensive abilities in the same way. PhoKing was much more persistent a threat in any match, although less of a berserker to the word, and created a lasting impression on the Outspark community for some time.

Sniper: Prolific was very big during and shortly after the Closed Betas, but I can't say too much here.

Dark Priest: Like most of the other pros, Galad's skill had decayed considerably when he made his most recent return to the game after a long break, but before that, he was easily one of the best around, and never rose above level 44 during that time.

Summoner: Trii was well known, Trii was deadly, and Trii was part of the first mass emigration from the game. He took some pretty big names with him too. That's influence.

Trapper: Hinamori was one of the first I saw using Puppet to kill in a single combo, so I'd say that was the cause of the whole trend (it hooked me into it too C:). For a good while, one of the only frightening Trapper names in the game. Mvffiny was good but I'm somewhat biased against poisoncloud regulars.

I also feel obligated to mention [Anima] for being such a fun Bishop, FUimnothealing for starting the whole priest-stick-spam thing, and above all, halomanXP for being the single most memorable and ridiculous PvPer I have ever seen (lvl 10 mage).

I have no real opinions of Novice because of the whole rock-paper-scissors relationship that dictates it.

[doki_]

lol thx for saying my name (swagg btw) hehe i did master every class was in top 3 of all the classes i played at the time but i dont want to start sumthin and say i was the best of all time but i was good ;)

Woob > Swagg.
Gtfo and you kill'd Summoner Class with Eddo's Summoner ; Cucaracha.
Meteor ~ Meteor ~ Meteor ~ Fail Summoner~

[doki_]

Most of the skilled PvPers have already been mentioned, and I'd just like to name some more for consideration: PhoKing (berserker), Prolific (sniper), Galad (dark priest), Trii (summoner), Hinamori (trapper)

These mentions are the judgement of my own opinion, and I do realize that other may opine differently. This does not mean I am calling them out as incorrect, seeing as they most likely judge by a very different set of criteria.

Note that I only started playing during the first Closed Beta of the Outspark version, and as such, am unfamiliar with some of the more famous GnG and Avocado players.

Berserker: Jack3d certainly capped raw damage output as a Berserker, but I cannot praise his defensive abilities in the same way. PhoKing was much more persistent a threat in any match, although less of a berserker to the word, and created a lasting impression on the Outspark community for some time.

Sniper: Prolific was very big during and shortly after the Closed Betas, but I can't say too much here.

Dark Priest: Like most of the other pros, Galad's skill had decayed considerably when he made his most recent return to the game after a long break, but before that, he was easily one of the best around, and never rose above level 44 during that time.

Summoner: Trii was well known, Trii was deadly, and Trii was part of the first mass emigration from the game. He took some pretty big names with him too. That's influence.

Trapper: Hinamori was one of the first I saw using Puppet to kill in a single combo, so I'd say that was the cause of the whole trend (it hooked me into it too C:). For a good while, one of the only frightening Trapper names in the game. Mvffiny was good but I'm somewhat biased against poisoncloud regulars.

I also feel obligated to mention [Anima] for being such a fun Bishop, FUimnothealing for starting the whole priest-stick-spam thing, and above all, halomanXP for being the single most memorable and ridiculous PvPer I have ever seen (lvl 10 mage).

I have no real opinions of Novice because of the whole rock-paper-scissors relationship that dictates it.
Ew,Galad.
Trii ish kool. Profilic ish kool. 2 my ol' buddies on Original Doki <3
Hinamori ish kool.
iDon'tKno' PhoKing well 'nuff.

Novice is rawk-paper-scissors. You're either the winner or you're not. o:

Edit : iThink iKno' who u r.
You're dat 1 freak dats'still in Valkyrie and comes to PvP with your Trapper / DP.

[longhairdontcare1]

Woob > Swagg.
Gtfo and you kill'd Summoner Class with Eddo's Summoner ; Cucaracha.
Meteor ~ Meteor ~ Meteor ~ Fail Summoner~

woob couldnt handle swaggy u dumb?
and i didnt kill nothin but people who wanted 2 die remember i tamed u cause u wouldnt kick me fail darkpriest xD

[star4242]

And what about the eles? It takes skill to actually hit you guys. Sure not much but somewhat. >.>

[doki_]

woob couldnt handle swaggy u dumb?
and i didnt kill nothin but people who wanted 2 die remember i tamed u cause u wouldnt kick me fail darkpriest xD

huh? kick?

[longhairdontcare1]

huh? kick?

when i helped u gb ALONG time ago you wouldnt kick me >.> so i had 2 ownahoe

[bronx90]

I'm not Justin,DinoSlayer,and/or Christian.

Only factor iPut in is :
1v1,STD,No Jewelery,Flat Area. ~ Amakusa Top Middle is best area unless you're a mage usin' Teleport.
iDon'tCare for the impact,influence. Just that single,one and only KO.
Thats'all.

Woob hid on most characters so A LOT players didn't kno' he had other classes but the classes h exposed himself as.

Edit : Well,if this is goin' be Impact,Influence. iCan make a different list.
That's fine so let me see your list

Meek this is in response to you

Berserker: Phoking........sigh yes when you think about it, is the berserker that's most likely to win b/c of his extremely good defense/offense combo. Also, he's been here longer than jacked and yes he has influence and made a lasting impact so i'll totally agree with you and really can't make a argument with you in any sort or form. Jacked however, will most likely be define what a berserker does and to be honest it's only foolish to say all berserkers should stay on offense b/c at some point you do in fact, need to switch to defense if necessary but with jacked, offense works for him so much that it's legitimately scary and he was eating people left and right in his prime. Meek i agree with you completely and will switch Jacked with Phoking.

Sniper: Profilic...can't argue with you here either. Bullet is better by not even a far fetch but he left really fast while Profilic, has had the time to create a impact/influence.Along with his range skills (which is extremely good), i'll switch Bullet with Profilic. This is only because Profilic excels a lot greater in his impact and influence while Bullet fail to accomplish those two factors.

Summoner: Trii is another great summoner that had her contributions to windslayer. Lux however has been there just as long and was more reliable in team battles with very similar impact and influence. Trii is amazing but falls short to lux b/c of lux's superior melee skills

Trapper: Hinamori..good one yes she is a original, influence a mass amount, had a similar impact to mvffiny. By a long shot, Mvffiny slightly wins b/c even she was defeated on numerous occassion by Mvffiny than she defeated mvffiny


Swagg this is in response to you

i apologize about my hiatus i wish I've took some time off to come and analyze during the post-beta era (i'm assuming that's where you were most active)

Doki this is in response to you

Make your list. I'm curious to see what you have on it since you've been here just as long as me

[bronx90]

My new list due to a good mention

Greatest Berserker of All Time
1. Phoking
Honarable Mention: Jacked

Greatest Paladin of All Time
1. Danger
Honorable Mention: Silent

Greatest Elementalist of All Time
1. Monster

Greatest Summoner of All Time
1. Lux Summoner
Honorable Mention: Trii

Greatest Darkpriest of All Time
1. Galad

Greatest Bishop of All Time
Still trying to figure this one out

Greatest Counter of All Time
1. Suldo

Greatest Shoal-in of All Time
1. Eddo

Greatest Trapper of All Time
1. Mvffiny
Honorable Mention: Hinamori

Greatest Assassin of All Time
1. Los
Honorable Mention: Rat

Greatest Novice of All Time
1. Justin
Honorable Mention: Stick-em, Christian, The-Truth

Greatest Pvper of All Time
1. Blue (Bias still)
Honorable Mention: Swagg, Woob, Bravers,

Greatest Novice Guild of All Time
1. Origins

Greatest Guild of All Time
1. Rawr
Honorable Mentions: Seven-up

Greatest Lol Noob of All Time
1. Baby
Honorable Mention: Toxicara (some new guy that's just...*brain explode*)

[longhairdontcare1]

ill make a list and put 2 names that i seen or coulda been not gonna put my name dont wanna start a war >.>

summoner-Cata or fabbio

ele- woob or kandori

trapper- fro or neo

sin- well i wasnt there 4 rat so imma say justins

shao-fandango duh or gaawa

counter-my son smokey or medaka do ur research on suldo btw (only good at 1v1's and thats easy 4 a
counter) i seen medaka kill a whole room just like smokey does now

pally-pho style was 2 good or the old silent

zerker- jacked <--- back in day on zerker get in gbs other then that it was eles trapper pho agin he was good warrior period

dp-best i seen was either gauge or funky

bishop-sinderella or cinderella (4got name) anima she heals and kills like the way the class is suppose 2 be for teamates

sniper-hmmmm idk

bm- zaraki or pop (tg use 2 be an animal spammer just like pop does now but pop still does it better)

Pvper woob fro bravers one ove them 2 me not some people can play anyclass but when ur good at them all ur good 2 me some ove the best meele's cant fastcast an still cant

guild Friday DUH 165-20 ftw then died due to me getting banned or daika wait NAH rawr 4 havin most heart gotta respect them lil goons

Noob doki (u been playn this game 2 long to still suck like you do u should be bullyin everybody get a real class its all support classes either novice no skills dp all heals wicked spam bm all elephant pally heal and bubble)
other then that toxi hands down lol

[longhairdontcare1]

That's fine so let me see your list

Meek this is in response to you

Berserker: Phoking........sigh yes when you think about it, is the berserker that's most likely to win b/c of his extremely good defense/offense combo. Also, he's been here longer than jacked and yes he has influence and made a lasting impact so i'll totally agree with you and really can't make a argument with you in any sort or form. Jacked however, will most likely be define what a berserker does and to be honest it's only foolish to say all berserkers should stay on offense b/c at some point you do in fact, need to switch to defense if necessary but with jacked, offense works for him so much that it's legitimately scary and he was eating people left and right in his prime. Meek i agree with you completely and will switch Jacked with Phoking.

Sniper: Profilic...can't argue with you here either. Bullet is better by not even a far fetch but he left really fast while Profilic, has had the time to create a impact/influence.Along with his range skills (which is extremely good), i'll switch Bullet with Profilic. This is only because Profilic excels a lot greater in his impact and influence while Bullet fail to accomplish those two factors.

Summoner: Trii is another great summoner that had her contributions to windslayer. Lux however has been there just as long and was more reliable in team battles with very similar impact and influence. Trii is amazing but falls short to lux b/c of lux's superior melee skills

Trapper: Hinamori..good one yes she is a original, influence a mass amount, had a similar impact to mvffiny. By a long shot, Mvffiny slightly wins b/c even she was defeated on numerous occassion by Mvffiny than she defeated mvffiny


Swagg this is in response to you

i apologize about my hiatus i wish I've took some time off to come and analyze during the post-beta era (i'm assuming that's where you were most active)

Doki this is in response to you

Make your list. I'm curious to see what you have on it since you've been here just as long as me

if doki make a list get ready 4 all rawr members lol

[bronx90]

1. thing i dont understand why does doki think hes good? and Woob is the best and was the best hands down. you guys mentioned something about Prolifica or whatever when Kashi was a better sniper ! really? you sound dumb not knowing who the best players where. the Ones that didnt talk trash and own you no one really talks about them, Kashi, Pizza, BAKANISIUM <--name changed cuzz of GM_Rider. You dont really hear about some of the best pvpers that stuck to their selves. No matter how much everyone hated Woob he was still pretty good. He fathered alot of Players and Turned them Pro "Swagg". You guys need to do some research and Trii wasnt even good in 1v1s he spammed DeathMatch for his rank ! ! ! "back in the day no Crit system Meteor took Half ya HP"


Woob is the Greated Pvper of all Classes Point Blank Blacca Blacca Body Bagz

Okay let me start by saying make your list bud.

If we're going by the best sniper melee-wise, then it's bullet.He never miss.Ever.Meaning every attack he made was always hitting his target. He never ever miss. when you say kashi is better than profilic they were equal in terms of melee, but impact and influential wise profilic gets more credit therefore he wins.What i'm trying to say is it's a combinatiion of melee impact and influence that makes a player great. Melee alone doesn't sum a player to be the greatest b/c anyone can beat anyone technically.

Let me say this also. In my last post or two quotes ago, i mention that i took a hiatus therefore i miss Woob, Bravers and swagg therefore my list of the greatest pvper of all time will be completely bias and personal since i took year off. if woob is the greatest like you say he is as far as greatest pvper goes, then i need to hear it from more ppl and i also need you to give me accomplishments he made if he's so great.

Now my greatest pvper list i put blue as the greatest because
1. He was the first pvper in ws history to master every class above 50 and had a rank over genius lvl in all of them!!
2. in his generation, he own everyone didn't matter what class he chooses to pick
3. technically, all the combos you see nowadays or in early beta days were experimented with blue first since he had the priviledge of taking the time to level every single class above 50 so he takes the credit of originator of combos
4. Was a guranteed game changer meaning if you have him on your team it's a guranteed win
5. Only flaw in his career is that he at one point hack therefore all of his accomplishments goes unoticed or never spoken about

those are my reasons of blue being the greatest now what did woob do? if he did the same thing blue did then his accomplishments will automatically be eclipse since blue did it first and since blue did it at a period where it was extremely difficult to lvl since it was less exp back in gng then that makes his accomplishments even more amazing..honestly it takes a no life to do all of this but nevertheless blue deserves greatest pvper

you say tri wasn't that good which is why i pick lux over trii since lux was capable of woodying and was really great at it

[bronx90]

As far as guilds go, King's, Royalz, and burr are great guild and to be honest i have no say in talking about the greatest guilds b/c i'm not sure who was the most successful, who won the most battles, who made a impact or some sort of inspiration.

[bronx90]

if doki make a list get ready 4 all rawr members lol

I wouldn't be surprise lol.

[bronx90]

ill make a list and put 2 names that i seen or coulda been not gonna put my name dont wanna start a war >.>

summoner-Cata or fabbio

ele- woob or kandori

trapper- fro or neo

sin- well i wasnt there 4 rat so imma say justins

shao-fandango duh or gaawa

counter-my son smokey or medaka do ur research on suldo btw (only good at 1v1's and thats easy 4 a
counter) i seen medaka kill a whole room just like smokey does now

pally-pho style was 2 good or the old silent

zerker- jacked <--- back in day on zerker get in gbs other then that it was eles trapper pho agin he was good warrior period

dp-best i seen was either gauge or funky

bishop-sinderella or cinderella (4got name) anima she heals and kills like the way the class is suppose 2 be for teamates

sniper-hmmmm idk

bm- zaraki or pop (tg use 2 be an animal spammer just like pop does now but pop still does it better)

Pvper woob fro bravers one ove them 2 me not some people can play anyclass but when ur good at them all ur good 2 me some ove the best meele's cant fastcast an still cant

guild Friday DUH 165-20 ftw then died due to me getting banned or daika wait NAH rawr 4 havin most heart gotta respect them lil goons

Noob doki (u been playn this game 2 long to still suck like you do u should be bullyin everybody get a real class its all support classes either novice no skills dp all heals wicked spam bm all elephant pally heal and bubble)
other then that toxi hands down lol

Summoner: Cata & Fabbio..good mentions you have from what i was told about them..now i wasn't there for either one so i'll investigate more on those two

Ele: Woob or Kandori..Wasn't there for woob..kandori on the other hand is another good mention and there's not much debate i can make with you on this one since i've seen him and technically deserves the number one spot if you account the amount of years he played and how much impact he made also. i'll change my list later on

Trapper: sorry guys mvffiny..lol you must not like mvffiny also..no one does really. I don't even like him but i give respect where it's due and he seriously epitomized trapper..also his impact and tactical combat is unmatched.

Sin: Justins..ask justin who he think is better and he'll either tell you los or rat..most likely los since los train him also

Shoa: Fang & gaawa..technically are equal or eddo's slightly better in melee however eddo's impact and influence and the amount of years he play for this game is unmatched..if fang and gaawa were still here then yes absolutely they'll eventually pass eddo's career

Counter: Smokey..another case of good pvper. he needs more time in this game. he's on the right track but suldo been doing this for four years and still top 3 which is saying a lot.so overall suldo wins. now if suldo went on hiatus and smokey still here dominating a whole room..yes smokey will end up being the greatest eventually..but really if him and suldo went 1on1 then my bet is suldo..he's been pwning like that for years now. medeka retires and left a good impact but was eclipse by suldo's staying power and influence and also lost to suldo.

Pally: Pho is more known on his serker than his pally which gives danger that advantage.

DP: Gauge and Funky both had short careers and galad was a legendary dp from gng. from a melee stand point guage and funk were both better..impact and influential wise galad no question. overall galad wins..slightly b/c his melee was just as good if not slightly inferior to gauge and funk

Bishop: glad you name anima lol i knew i had my finger on this one but i dont know why her name didn't pop up..anima no question greatest bishop ..honarable mention goes to may

[doki_]

when i helped u gb ALONG time ago you wouldnt kick me >.> so i had 2 ownahoe

You Stun+Puppet+Team'd meh.
You BabyPoP.



Noob doki (u been playn this game 2 long to still suck like you do u should be bullyin everybody get a real class its all support classes either novice no skills dp all heals wicked spam bm all elephant pally heal and bubble)
other then that toxi hands down lol
"still suck..?"
Um,*New Flash* theres a GlitchFastCast.
Which Hinders my Skill(and many others). Not greatly but it does make a difference maker.
Even you witnessed it in our 1v1 BM. iGot +4-5 WinStreak while you let me FastCast.
Rule : If iGrab,you take the hit.(afterwards you started to jump or block+take da hit+grab+get away).
So,you can SMD.

You're right 'bout my Support Classes,though.
iDo Rank #1 for them all.

Fact : 99.99% of the time when I'm 1v1in.'
Players'who CAN GFC don't allow me to Grab+SkillAttack when iGrab them. ~ Oh yes,iWent there.

[doki_]

Here's my List.. of Influence,Impact,well-known.
iMean GnG..

Greatest Zerker of All Time
1. FangDang

Greatest Paladin of All Time
1.

Greatest Elementalist of All Time
1.

Greatest Summoner of All Time
1. Fabbio

Greatest Sniper of All Time
1. Profilic or Kashi

Greatest BeastMaster of All Time
1. Zaraki

Greatest Assassin of All Time
1. LoS

Greatest Trapper of All Time
1. Mvffiny

Greatest Bishop of All Time
1.

Greatest Dark Priest of All Time
1. Galad

Greatest Shaolin of All Time
1. Stark or FangDango or Eddo.

Greatest Counter of All Time
1. Oyaji or Suldo

Greatest Novice of All Time
1. Doki

Greatest Overall Pvper of All Time
1. ?

[doki_]

As far as guilds go, King's, Royalz, and burr are great guild and to be honest i have no say in talking about the greatest guilds b/c i'm not sure who was the most successful, who won the most battles, who made a impact or some sort of inspiration.

One Word : [Rawr] ~ Longest Livin'.(Other than bravers guild which pops'up once in awhile).

iDon'tKno' any other unique,better,best,rawresomest guild :P
There's only2-4 Guilds,iCan think of. They're Dead over a year or 2 ago.
Other than that,there isn't any.




you say tri wasn't that good which is why i pick lux over trii since lux was capable of woodying and was really great at it
Lux can't even Woody.
Wait,you're Jobb'r.
Ello',mate!My name is Doki. Have you seen NovicePvP,mate?

[bronx90]

Here's my List.. of Influence,Impact,well-known.
iMean GnG..

Greatest Zerker of All Time
1. FangDang

Greatest Paladin of All Time
1.

Greatest Elementalist of All Time
1.

Greatest Summoner of All Time
1. Fabbio

Greatest Sniper of All Time
1. Profilic or Kashi

Greatest BeastMaster of All Time
1. Zaraki

Greatest Assassin of All Time
1. LoS

Greatest Trapper of All Time
1. Mvffiny

Greatest Bishop of All Time
1.

Greatest Dark Priest of All Time
1. Galad

Greatest Shaolin of All Time
1. Stark or FangDango or Eddo.

Greatest Counter of All Time
1. Oyaji or Suldo

Greatest Novice of All Time
1. Doki

Greatest Overall Pvper of All Time
1. ?

I'm surprise doki..your list is just like mines and dead on also

Berserker
Fangdang...him over phoking is extremely hard to do since by a hair pho is better but fang is however, the most well known berserker you're right on with this..this is official gj doki. I'll Switch Phoking with Fangdang

Shoalin
Stark..that's daggerjoe btw..his legacy is from daggerjoe only..melee wise he's not eddo..nor impact or from a influential standpoint

Fangdango..we all know who this is. It's obvious so great fight but has another character with a much larger legacy

Counter
Oyaji..Suldo's old rival..now personally oyaji was better..his legacy goes as far as gng-beta era while suldo was gng-current (glitch era)..by default suldo wins simply b/c, they both had the same impact and influence equally.So now it goes to staying power..suldo wins by default

Novice
Doki...lol justins better..however doki..sigh you was a inspiring person i can't take that from you. you also made a impact now you were known more from beta era as oppose to gng even though you were known there also..justin made a bigger impact in his novice but b/c justins gone and you stay around building your legacy..you win..slightly lol

MY list is after this post

Guild
explain to me why rawr is more successfully w/o making it bias

[bronx90]

Greatest Berserker of All Time
1. Fangdang
Honorable Mentions: Phoking, Jacked

Greatest Paladin of All Time
1. Danger
Honorable Mentions: Silent

Greatest Elementalist of All Time
1. Kandori
Honorable Mentions: Woob, Monster

Greatest Summoner of All Time
1. Fabbio
Honorable Mentions: Cata, Lux Summoner

Greatest Bishop of All Time
1. Anima
Honorable Mentions: May, Sinderella

Greatest Darkpriest of All Time
1. Galad
Honorable Mentions: Funky

Greatest Sniper of All Time
1. Profilic
Honorable Mentions: Kashi, Bullet

Greatest Beastmaster of All Time
1. Zaraki
Honorable Mentions: Tg

Greatest Counter of All Time
1. Suldo
Honorable Mentions: Oyaji,Medeke

Greatest Shoalin of All Time
1. Eddo
Honorable Mentions: Gaawa

Greatest Trapper of All Time
1. Mvffiny
Honorable Mentions: Frowsty, Neoshadows

Greatest Assassin of All Time
1. Los
Honorable Mentions: Daggerjoe, Xtratmax, Justins

Greatest Novice of All Time
1. Doki
Honorable Mentions: Justin, Christian

Greatest Pvper of All Time
1. Blue
Honorable Mentions: Woob, Swagg, Bravers

Greatest Guild of All Time
1...i'm not sure

Greatest Noob of All Time
1. Pop
Honorable Mentions: Toxicara

[bronx90]

this list above me is no question the most accurate as the ones listed as the greatest have excell the greatest in each factor
1. Melee Skills
2. Impact
3. Influential

each one listed as the greatest demostrated each factor within 4 years or less and most likely are un active or have retire..except for suldo and doki..also swagg,and bravers..woob also

btw i'm not counting the greatest noob lol..they are in a class of their own..

now with that being said now we can make another list of who the most potential to dethrone the greatest listed above with the three factors mention..it can't be the ones that're honorably mention b/c they also retire. if there's a current individual that plays currently now then plz list them and explain why

[xxdont-fallxx]

I hate cats.


Greatest Assassin of All Time
1. Los
Bronx, I don't know who you are but you are certainly very wrong.
I played GnG and on through and I have seen much much better sins.
LoS is good but of course not the best, Im gonna have to say XRATMX he trained me, and we practiced for hours.
Have a good day.

[star4242]

Can we end this please? It already bad enough that we went 10 pages of nothing but flaming before, but to bring it up again? Bronx, im sorry but this thread is pointless( as I said before.) No body can be the best. Sure doki can kill me and you but who cares? Its just a game. Soon someone will show up and who knows? He/she could be better than doki. The people you all are mentioning, most of them quit like a year ago, and probably wouldn't be coming back. So why bring this who the best crap? I bet they wouldn't even want you to put them in your lists.

[doki_]

I'm surprise doki..your list is just like mines and dead on also

Berserker
Fangdang...him over phoking is extremely hard to do since by a hair pho is better but fang is however, the most well known berserker you're right on with this..this is official gj doki. I'll Switch Phoking with Fangdang

Shoalin
Stark..that's daggerjoe btw..his legacy is from daggerjoe only..melee wise he's not eddo..nor impact or from a influential standpoint

Fangdango..we all know who this is. It's obvious so great fight but has another character with a much larger legacy

Counter
Oyaji..Suldo's old rival..now personally oyaji was better..his legacy goes as far as gng-beta era while suldo was gng-current (glitch era)..by default suldo wins simply b/c, they both had the same impact and influence equally.So now it goes to staying power..suldo wins by default

Novice
Doki...lol justins better..however doki..sigh you was a inspiring person i can't take that from you. you also made a impact now you were known more from beta era as oppose to gng even though you were known there also..justin made a bigger impact in his novice but b/c justins gone and you stay around building your legacy..you win..slightly lol

MY list is after this post

Guild
explain to me why rawr is more successfully w/o making it bias
Meh,iHate GnG'rs. The early GnG'rs.

Rawr is successful just cause it is.
It really depends'wha you're lookin' at.
Rawr was based off Friends,majority of girls~<3.

[meerakulz212]

Ew,Galad.
Edit : iThink iKno' who u r.
You're dat 1 freak dats'still in Valkyrie and comes to PvP with your Trapper / DP.
Valkyrie <3 :]
The DP is someone else that I know, but I'm the trapper. If you did manage to name all of my characters, that would be praiseworthy but also somewhat creepy.

Anima was a wonderful bishop and person (by the way, you should praise her if you ever see her) but from what I remember, Saveline was better at using Group Heal to keep people alive the moment they took a killing hit, and that is worth something. Anima was one of the first people to use obscure unicode characters in her name though; the only other person I can think of is §ound.

daggerjoe = Grimmjow = FireFistAce = LoneSilver? LoneSilver was a very good BM, but he excelled at it during the popularity peak of BMs so I suppose he didn't stand out too much?

Rawr and Daikazoku have both been extremely successful and long-lived guilds, but G-String definitely deserves a mention for expanding up to G-String III - that's 200 members! Even if it died off a long time ago, although you could argue circumstance, but it peaked when Royalz, Kings, Youtube, and kazekage had decent membership which must count for something.
Rawr I see as absorbing all the new people it can, and Daikazoku I see as a collective of social, colorful personalities. Protect was also very large at one point, and I think many people still remember it.

[doki_]

Valkyrie <3 :]
The DP is someone else that I know, but I'm the trapper. If you did manage to name all of my characters, that would be praiseworthy but also somewhat creepy.

Anima was a wonderful bishop and person (by the way, you should praise her if you ever see her) but from what I remember, Saveline was better at using Group Heal to keep people alive the moment they took a killing hit, and that is worth something. Anima was one of the first people to use obscure unicode characters in her name though; the only other person I can think of is §ound.

daggerjoe = Grimmjow = FireFistAce = LoneSilver? LoneSilver was a very good BM, but he excelled at it during the popularity peak of BMs so I suppose he didn't stand out too much?

Rawr and Daikazoku have both been extremely successful and long-lived guilds, but G-String definitely deserves a mention for expanding up to G-String III - that's 200 members! Even if it died off a long time ago, although you could argue circumstance, but it peaked when Royalz, Kings, Youtube, and kazekage had decent membership which must count for something.
Rawr I see as absorbing all the new people it can, and Daikazoku I see as a collective of social, colorful personalities. Protect was also very large at one point, and I think many people still remember it.

iDon'tKno' your characters but if iSee a list,iCan say it is you :P
Nah,no thanks,iDon't feel like praisin' ppl who 2faced.
That HealGlitch is easy to do, GroupHeal is easy to do,too :o
Anima,Sevic,Lux,blah,blah said Saveline was as better Bishoar. iHowever,never seen a good bishoar and Saveline has declined to 1v1 meh before,too.

LoneSilver,iRemember that name but iDon't remember evar fightin' him. iThought he was an Archer.[Shrugs]

Diak are only active on vacation b'kuz they have lives others'than that. - Rakury.
Diak is a Summer Guild - Saveline

Rawr is 24/7 unless I'm not around due to vacation.

G-String 3 wasn't G-String.
Idk,what the Original was b'kuz iWas still in NovicePvP.
But when iWas in Azure as OriginalDoki.
Some players'left to G-String. Then bunch of other G-Strings came up.
But they were all at "Once/Unity." There were different b'kuz of disagreement of who led for leadership.
3 G-Strings = 150 Members.

YouTube Sux'd. it was just one of those guilds with Ele'z.
Kazekage was bunch of GnG'rs,iThink. They didn't 1v1 but they did however DM,TeamPvP.
Kings was Woob's Guild.
Royalz was Kandori's. <- Only popular kuz mainly of Woob. Then Tiramisu,Funky!

[meerakulz212]

You've previously implied that you will likely withhold any Bishop nominations, but I ask of you to understand the 1v1 ability is a very lacking piece of criteria with which to judge support classes. Just to pull a random name, Kallik was certainly skilled with a sword, but what made her really dangerous was her ability to flit around a 10v10 and stay alive with the healing aura activated the whole time. So if we assume, solely for the purpose of this argument, that Saveline was wholly incapable of 1v1ing (which was quite good at, actually) yet as decent a healer as I have previously stated, that would not disqualify her.

You also say that using Group Heal as life support is easy - I have never played a Bishop so I wouldn't know - but I'd say it's of a difficulty on par with countergrabbing, which is no mean feat. The number of active Bishops that can do it are likely few and far between. It must count for something.

I'm afraid I've lost what you mean to say about various guilds in your very unique way of writing, so I cannot offer any responses to that.

Summoner: Krzy4noodles (?) From what little I remember, he was quite good, but I'm not sure how he measures with Fabbio, Trii, or any others.

[Simmy]

I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA

Greatest Berserker of All Time
1. Hiyori-Kiomi
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Paladin of All Time
1. SaintSebastian
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Elementalist of All Time
1. Simalicious
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Summoner of All Time
1. mage_:P
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Sniper of All Time
1. Mistle
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest BeastMaster of All Time
1. Enchiladas
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Assassin of All Time
1. Simniel
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Trapper of All Time
1. Garbage-Disposal
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Bishop of All Time
1. Prince
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Dark Priest of All Time
1. Healgasm
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Shaolin of All Time
1. Chun-Li
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Counter of All Time
1. WePhail
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Novice of All Time
1. None, they're all ***** to choose a class.
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Most correct list made so far IMO
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA

[ola_swirl]

what the fox I'm not the greatest counter of all time ._.
I just know your moves in pvp teehee : D

[Simmy]

what the fox I'm not the greatest counter of all time ._.
I just know your moves in pvp teehee : D

Quote my words babyyyyy ^_^

[ola_swirl]

if doki make a list get ready 4 all rawr members lolI wouldn't be surprise lol.

although Rawr lost twice yesterday to a not very well known guild (TeamLayton)

[doki_]

You've previously implied that you will likely withhold any Bishop nominations, but I ask of you to understand the 1v1 ability is a very lacking piece of criteria with which to judge support classes. Just to pull a random name, Kallik was certainly skilled with a sword, but what made her really dangerous was her ability to flit around a 10v10 and stay alive with the healing aura activated the whole time. So if we assume, solely for the purpose of this argument, that Saveline was wholly incapable of 1v1ing (which was quite good at, actually) yet as decent a healer as I have previously stated, that would not disqualify her.

You also say that using Group Heal as life support is easy - I have never played a Bishop so I wouldn't know - but I'd say it's of a difficulty on par with countergrabbing, which is no mean feat. The number of active Bishops that can do it are likely few and far between. It must count for something.

I'm afraid I've lost what you mean to say about various guilds in your very unique way of writing, so I cannot offer any responses to that.

Summoner: Krzy4noodles (?) From what little I remember, he was quite good, but I'm not sure how he measures with Fabbio, Trii, or any others.
I'm not implyin' anythin' to you,I'm sayin' it directly.
If you're askin' meh who's a good bishoar,iWon't say any b'kuz iDon'tKno' any.
If you're askin' meh who's a well-known/impact(this topic basically 'bout) Bishoar. iCan name a 2-3(maybeh 4).

iHave and iThoughtchu had like every class but Mage-type.
'Kay.
Krazy is like the highest Summoner,iThink.

[doki_]

although Rawr lost twice yesterday to a not very well known guild (TeamLayton)
We lost 3res times. Won 2wo times. ~ Didn't use moar than 2 mains at first GB then iUsed 3 all the way~ and Sele wasn't there,either for them.
They didn't GB us afterwards b'kuz they didn't have enough Ele'z that could take 1/2 up of their team.


TeamLayton is G-String or.."Magic".MagicBunny,MagicTurtle,MagicFox,MagicGoat.

iDon'tCare for Win/Loss ratio/streaks.
iJust care to play dependin' of the "Difficulty Level" between the players iHave and the players they have.
Harder the Win,Better the Win. iHate easy Wins. or I'd be usin' pure Ele'z/Summ'z....

..Just like Diak's 3 Sniper + 3 Lv49 Mages.(After Swagg's Guild got them mad in GB).

[bronx90]

I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA

Greatest Berserker of All Time
1. Hiyori-Kiomi
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Paladin of All Time
1. SaintSebastian
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Elementalist of All Time
1. Simalicious
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Summoner of All Time
1. mage_:P
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Sniper of All Time
1. Mistle
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest BeastMaster of All Time
1. Enchiladas
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Assassin of All Time
1. Simniel
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Trapper of All Time
1. Garbage-Disposal
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Bishop of All Time
1. Prince
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Dark Priest of All Time
1. Healgasm
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Shaolin of All Time
1. Chun-Li
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Counter of All Time
1. WePhail
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Greatest Novice of All Time
1. None, they're all ***** to choose a class.
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
Most correct list made so far IMO
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA
I BE TROLLING FOOL! HAHA

Greatest in what? and how so? Greatest Potential ? what did they accomplish? what impact did they make? if your just talking melee skills then it's a problem because i've never heard or saw these individuals fight. If anything this is more personal opinion than from a analytical standpoint. Anyone agree with this list please say do and i'll investigate more

[star4242]

Greatest in what? and how so? Greatest Potential ? what did they accomplish? what impact did they make? if your just talking melee skills then it's a problem because i've never heard or saw these individuals fight. If anything this is more personal opinion than from a analytical standpoint. Anyone agree with this list please say do and i'll investigate more

That's Simmy for ya.

[bronx90]

iDon'tKno' your characters but if iSee a list,iCan say it is you :P
Nah,no thanks,iDon't feel like praisin' ppl who 2faced.
That HealGlitch is easy to do, GroupHeal is easy to do,too :o
Anima,Sevic,Lux,blah,blah said Saveline was as better Bishoar. iHowever,never seen a good bishoar and Saveline has declined to 1v1 meh before,too.

LoneSilver,iRemember that name but iDon't remember evar fightin' him. iThought he was an Archer.[Shrugs]

Diak are only active on vacation b'kuz they have lives others'than that. - Rakury.
Diak is a Summer Guild - Saveline

Rawr is 24/7 unless I'm not around due to vacation.

G-String 3 wasn't G-String.
Idk,what the Original was b'kuz iWas still in NovicePvP.
But when iWas in Azure as OriginalDoki.
Some players'left to G-String. Then bunch of other G-Strings came up.
But they were all at "Once/Unity." There were different b'kuz of disagreement of who led for leadership.
3 G-Strings = 150 Members.

YouTube Sux'd. it was just one of those guilds with Ele'z.
Kazekage was bunch of GnG'rs,iThink. They didn't 1v1 but they did however DM,TeamPvP.
Kings was Woob's Guild.
Royalz was Kandori's. <- Only popular kuz mainly of Woob. Then Tiramisu,Funky!

all the guilds you mention were very successfull during beta era and made a impact equally but as less ppl stop play ws the numbers decrease and eventually died. The only two that're still here currently is rawr and diak..now from my opinion i think diak have more potential experience players and won the majority of the times..more so than rawr.. but i don't know who's better but from my opinion diak

[bronx90]

That's Simmy for ya.

let me make a statement replying to your other post. this thread doesn't need to die or disappear or have a meteor drop right on it or w/e you feel needs to be done to it. Now for one no one here is flaming (arguing) just debating and i feel it's about time we talk about this because at this point who knows if ws will make it to next year so this is just one of those discussions that need to be discuss from a critic standpoint as oppose to personal opinions

[ola_swirl]

We lost 3res times. Won 2wo times. ~ Didn't use moar than 2 mains at first GB then iUsed 3 all the way~ and Sele wasn't there,either for them.
They didn't GB us afterwards b'kuz they didn't have enough Ele'z that could take 1/2 up of their team.


TeamLayton is G-String or.."Magic".MagicBunny,MagicTurtle,MagicFox,MagicGoat.

iDon'tCare for Win/Loss ratio/streaks.
iJust care to play dependin' of the "Difficulty Level" between the players iHave and the players they have.
Harder the Win,Better the Win. iHate easy Wins. or I'd be usin' pure Ele'z/Summ'z....

..Just like Diak's 3 Sniper + 3 Lv49 Mages.(After Swagg's Guild got them mad in GB).
lol, you're all excuses, aren't you? I think you won't be the best solely for the fact that you don't acknowledge loss and overhype about winning. dude, you lost, I don't really care how and why, if you could have won, you would have. It's such a ridiculous reason to lose deliberately because you're supposed to try your best if you want to excel.
plus, it's not just up to you and your oh-so-powerful mains that will decide whether your guild wins or not: it's a guild battle, and you're fighting as a team. If you are big-hearted enough, you strategically pick your fighters.

We in daika do not just win because we use specific classes, we know our timings and strategy, and how to work as a whole and team intelligently. In addition, each of us have a certain degree of expertise in our own class, and most of our pvp ranks actually do apply to the extent of that expertise.



The only two that're still here currently is rawr and diak..now from my opinion i think diak have more potential experience players and won the majority of the times..more so than rawr.. but i don't know who's better but from my opinion diak

please spell my guild's name right... it's Daika, from Daikazoku. 'diaka' is just one of Doki's habits to spell it incorrectly.

[bronx90]

daika..sorry there

[ola_swirl]

thanks, it's ok : D

[doki_]

all the guilds you mention were very successfull during beta era and made a impact equally but as less ppl stop play ws the numbers decrease and eventually died. The only two that're still here currently is rawr and diak..now from my opinion i think diak have more potential experience players and won the majority of the times..more so than rawr.. but i don't know who's better but from my opinion diak
Beta Era(?) : Up 'Til EXParty was taken away + School involvement. Summer just end'd,too.
Rawr and Diak aren't the only Guilds still livin'.

Rawr
Valkyrie's Lil' Chains -> Protect -> Burr -> Fridays
You're also forgettin' G-String(Magic Players~) -> Dozens of Guilds -> TeamLayton.
7Up
BabyPoPs Guild ... They're slowly gettin' ban now. BM already been ban.
Bishop Club -> Diak

Rawr just builds'players and PvP/GBs anytime,any moment.
Friday has the most Wins. With the best Ratio.
TeamLayton is bunch of friends and PvPs 'bout anytime.
BabyPoP Guilds just like to glitch and actually show it.
7UP is Diverse,literally with BR,Spanish,English,Etc.
Diak just has exclusive guild. Thats'bout it.

Rawr > Diak . Anyday.
Only guild iSee an equal to Rawr is Azure(Zero's Guild).
iKinda like 7Up's Guild but evar since they allow BabyPoPs into their guild for Glitchin' in GuildBattles.
My view has been changed.


Greatest in what? and how so? Greatest Potential ? what did they accomplish? what impact did they make? if your just talking melee skills then it's a problem because i've never heard or saw these individuals fight. If anything this is more personal opinion than from a analytical standpoint. Anyone agree with this list please say do and i'll investigate more

He's just messin' around lookin' for attention.Ignore it.

[doki_]

lol, you're all excuses, aren't you? I think you won't be the best solely for the fact that you don't acknowledge loss and overhype about winning. dude, you lost, I don't really care how and why, if you could have won, you would have. It's such a ridiculous reason to lose deliberately because you're supposed to try your best if you want to excel.
plus, it's not just up to you and your oh-so-powerful mains that will decide whether your guild wins or not: it's a guild battle, and you're fighting as a team. If you are big-hearted enough, you strategically pick your fighters.

We in daika do not just win because we use specific classes, we know our timings and strategy, and how to work as a whole and team intelligently. In addition, each of us have a certain degree of expertise in our own class, and most of our pvp ranks actually do apply to the extent of that expertise.

'diaka' is just one of Doki's habits to spell it incorrectly.
Excuses?No. I'm statin' wha was there and who wasn't there.
iEven mention'd player who wasn't there for TeamLayton that would've done an impact in the GuildBattle...Yet,you see that as an excuse?
If iNeed to excuse myself,iWill while tellin' you but don't worry iWon't evar imply it,I'll state it directly to you or anyone else.

No,iDon't excel myself,iExcel with my GBin' Team.
I'm guessin' "Best" is seen upon P.O.V.
My type of best in excel would be :
(My Team)6 Novices Vs (Their Team)6 Ele'z.
We Win. Thats'just RAWRESOME!

[Sigh]Or.. Do you want meh play by the way your Guild does since were on a Guild matter subject?
Diak : 3 Ele'z/Summ'z + 3 Sniper/BM'z Vs Diverse Team.
How 'bout this one?
BaByPoP's 6 Ele'z Vs Diverse Team.

If you're goin' talk 'bout "try your best if you want to excel " at least make the..
WIN WORTHY ENOUGH.

Who likes Easy Wins? iSure as hell don't like'em at all or I'd be in Diak still or in Fridays or with BaByPoPs or any other guild that likes to use/abuse Ele'z/Summ'z in GB.
So,if you wanna continue on this subject go ahead. Forcin' your "P.O.V." of a Win is just goin' make you look moar unknown to my eyes b'kuz I've heard it time and time again..


My Main do make a difference in GuildBattles. Thats'where my TeamWork is. With'em.
Not with random players and/or players who just like to GB ^-^. <- Huge reason why Rawr isn't like most "Top Guilds."


You shouldn't speak for Diak. You're just diggin'em 6feet under in my eyes. Tsk.
I'd like to see Diak win without the use of Summ/Ele/BM/Sniper then.
And against worthy GB Team. Not an EasyWin that you seem to like.
Don't talk 'bout rank when most of'em are in CTF 24/7. CTF is so easy to rank up compared to regular TeamPvP. Expertise?Lol.
I've HolyStruck'd most your members'that I've seen in TeamPvP. 1v1 Based or even 1v1 based while they're gettin' Bishoar's heal,yup,lol. or the teamin' xD.
That was in Summer '10 where iKinda terrorize'em and targett'd them.
Since,then iHaven't messed with Diak other than Rakury,Cen,Miya,Zero.(Always have,always will). iCan't think of any other players.

iCall'it Diak not Diaka. iHave no reason add-on to it.

You've been tryin' get my attention for the past month or so.
You have it now. iStill don't kno' you but you have it.
So,make it worth my time and do somethin' actually new/original.
If you're goin' be like HealChii(talk),BabyPoP(talk),Simmy(talk),Sevic(tal k,ULTM),Lux(Talk,ULTM). Same ol' thing.
I'm just goin' ignore you is all.

[star4242]

let me make a statement replying to your other post. this thread doesn't need to die or disappear or have a meteor drop right on it or w/e you feel needs to be done to it. Now for one no one here is flaming (arguing) just debating and i feel it's about time we talk about this because at this point who knows if ws will make it to next year so this is just one of those discussions that need to be discuss from a critic standpoint as oppose to personal opinions

So you think "debating" about pvp is so important? This same thread brought up nothing but flaming airheads who don't understand that its just a game. They don't understand that its not a competition to win $100, nor a once in a lifetime thing. They want to make other feel like crap just so they can get attention. This is 1 of the reasons i hate pvp in mmorpgs. Its not just the bugs and glitches, its the competitive part of a person that just goes out of control. If you were a mod and just happen to look in one of the pvp rooms to see what's going on, you will see what i mean. Its like playing a sport at school, There will be somebody there who just won't play fair. You can go ahead and ignore this post all you want, but doki will continue saying the things he says, he'll just make more people angry.

[star4242]

You've been tryin' get my attention for the past month or so.
You have it now. iStill don't kno' you but you have it.
So,make it worth my time and do somethin' actually new/original.
If you're goin' be like HealChii(talk),BabyPoP(talk),Simmy(talk),Sevic(tal k,ULTM),Lux(Talk,ULTM). Same ol' thing.
I'm just goin' ignore you is all.
Ok.... what does that make you? You seem to have a tag for almost every person who chats on this forum, What's yours? Oh no, im not gonna nail you or anything like that, im just curious.

[doki_]

Ok.... what does that make you? You seem to have a tag for almost every person who chats on this forum, What's yours? Oh no, im not gonna nail you or anything like that, im just curious.
"Tag?" Whachu mean by "Tag?"
I'm thinkin' of a collar,dog tags.

I'm confused. Wha does "Doki" hafto do with someone that iDon'tKno' just tryin' get my attention directly/indirectly multiple times.

If you're askin' if iTry get others' attention then yes.
GuildBattle,1v1,NewComers,and Interests(Players mostly). ~ Game Wise.
Forum Wise,Umm.. GM'z/CRS'z? Thats'all,iCan think of.

[doki_]

So you think "debating" about pvp is so important? This same thread brought up nothing but flaming airheads who don't understand that its just a game. They don't understand that its not a competition to win $100, nor a once in a lifetime thing. They want to make other feel like crap just so they can get attention. This is 1 of the reasons i hate pvp in mmorpgs. Its not just the bugs and glitches, its the competitive part of a person that just goes out of control. If you were a mod and just happen to look in one of the pvp rooms to see what's going on, you will see what i mean. Its like playing a sport at school, There will be somebody there who just won't play fair. You can go ahead and ignore this post all you want, but doki will continue saying the things he says, he'll just make more people angry.
You sound.... like...MapleStory Player... No PvP ..Really?

Person's PvP Part and a person not playin' fair. I'm confused. They're cheatin'?
GlitchHit,Puppet/Stun?

iDon't make people angry. ~ If iCould make people do stuff it'd be to follo' meh as a minion and do wha iSay.
If they have short-temper,thats'their own fault or their parents or maybeh its medical reasons,sadly. -sad face-
[Shrugs] Its'a Debate.
Star,you can either reply back to me or you can leave.
You better reply back to this topic.

[Simmy]

Greatest in what? and how so? Greatest Potential ? what did they accomplish? what impact did they make? if your just talking melee skills then it's a problem because i've never heard or saw these individuals fight. If anything this is more personal opinion than from a analytical standpoint. Anyone agree with this list please say do and i'll investigate more

because I said they're good, and my final word is the truth.

You even quoted my response and didn't see the true meaning... u b fayoool

I just thought if Donki can do it, why not me =]

[star4242]

because I said they're good, and my final word is the truth.

You even quoted my response and didn't see the true meaning... u b fayoool

I just thought if Donki can do it, why not me =]

So there are good because you say they are? Go look for attention some where else. :) Wait, Those are all your chars except mage :P, We phail, and mistle, Nevermind.

[star4242]

You sound.... like...MapleStory Player... No PvP ..Really?

Person's PvP Part and a person not playin' fair. I'm confused. They're cheatin'?
GlitchHit,Puppet/Stun?

iDon't make people angry. ~ If iCould make people do stuff it'd be to follo' meh as a minion and do wha iSay.
If they have short-temper,thats'their own fault or their parents or maybeh its medical reasons,sadly. -sad face-
[Shrugs] Its'a Debate.
Star,you can either reply back to me or you can leave.
You better reply back to this topic.

Meh, ill leave you alone.

[Simmy]

So there are good because you say they are? Go look for attention some where else. :) Wait, Those are all your chars except mage :P, We phail, and mistle, Nevermind.

Was that supposed to be an insult :S

and stop double posting.

[ola_swirl]

Beta Era(?) : Up 'Til EXParty was taken away + School involvement. Summer just end'd,too.
Rawr and Diak aren't the only Guilds still livin'.

Rawr
Valkyrie's Lil' Chains -> Protect -> Burr -> Fridays
You're also forgettin' G-String(Magic Players~) -> Dozens of Guilds -> TeamLayton.
7Up
BabyPoPs Guild ... They're slowly gettin' ban now. BM already been ban.
Bishop Club -> Diak

Rawr just builds'players and PvP/GBs anytime,any moment.
Friday has the most Wins. With the best Ratio.
TeamLayton is bunch of friends and PvPs 'bout anytime.
BabyPoP Guilds just like to glitch and actually show it.
7UP is Diverse,literally with BR,Spanish,English,Etc.
Diak just has exclusive guild. Thats'bout it.

Rawr > Diak . Anyday.
Only guild iSee an equal to Rawr is Azure(Zero's Guild).
iKinda like 7Up's Guild but evar since they allow BabyPoPs into their guild for Glitchin' in GuildBattles.
My view has been changed.



He's just messin' around lookin' for attention.Ignore it.


Excuses?No. I'm statin' wha was there and who wasn't there.
iEven mention'd player who wasn't there for TeamLayton that would've done an impact in the GuildBattle...Yet,you see that as an excuse?
If iNeed to excuse myself,iWill while tellin' you but don't worry iWon't evar imply it,I'll state it directly to you or anyone else.

No,iDon't excel myself,iExcel with my GBin' Team.
I'm guessin' "Best" is seen upon P.O.V.
My type of best in excel would be :
(My Team)6 Novices Vs (Their Team)6 Ele'z.
We Win. Thats'just RAWRESOME!

[Sigh]Or.. Do you want meh play by the way your Guild does since were on a Guild matter subject?
Diak : 3 Ele'z/Summ'z + 3 Sniper/BM'z Vs Diverse Team.
How 'bout this one?
BaByPoP's 6 Ele'z Vs Diverse Team.

If you're goin' talk 'bout "try your best if you want to excel " at least make the..
WIN WORTHY ENOUGH.

Who likes Easy Wins? iSure as hell don't like'em at all or I'd be in Diak still or in Fridays or with BaByPoPs or any other guild that likes to use/abuse Ele'z/Summ'z in GB.
So,if you wanna continue on this subject go ahead. Forcin' your "P.O.V." of a Win is just goin' make you look moar unknown to my eyes b'kuz I've heard it time and time again..


My Main do make a difference in GuildBattles. Thats'where my TeamWork is. With'em.
Not with random players and/or players who just like to GB ^-^. <- Huge reason why Rawr isn't like most "Top Guilds."


You shouldn't speak for Diak. You're just diggin'em 6feet under in my eyes. Tsk.
I'd like to see Diak win without the use of Summ/Ele/BM/Sniper then.
And against worthy GB Team. Not an EasyWin that you seem to like.
Don't talk 'bout rank when most of'em are in CTF 24/7. CTF is so easy to rank up compared to regular TeamPvP. Expertise?Lol.
I've HolyStruck'd most your members'that I've seen in TeamPvP. 1v1 Based or even 1v1 based while they're gettin' Bishoar's heal,yup,lol. or the teamin' xD.
That was in Summer '10 where iKinda terrorize'em and targett'd them.
Since,then iHaven't messed with Diak other than Rakury,Cen,Miya,Zero.(Always have,always will). iCan't think of any other players.

iCall'it Diak not Diaka. iHave no reason add-on to it.

You've been tryin' get my attention for the past month or so.
You have it now. iStill don't kno' you but you have it.
So,make it worth my time and do somethin' actually new/original.
If you're goin' be like HealChii(talk),BabyPoP(talk),Simmy(talk),Sevic(tal k,ULTM),Lux(Talk,ULTM). Same ol' thing.
I'm just goin' ignore you is all.

looooool you're so damn superior and full of argument, yes alright, sir!
your generalisations alone are ridiculous. you will never notice that and you'll just talk and talk and talk blatantly.
so you think everyone's wrong but you. all those players you've mentioned have no say. fine, keep on going.

[star4242]

Was that supposed to be an insult :S

and stop double posting.

Yes, and make me. :)

[doki_]

looooool you're so damn superior and full of argument, yes alright, sir!
your generalisations alone are ridiculous. you will never notice that and you'll just talk and talk and talk blatantly.
so you think everyone's wrong but you. all those players you've mentioned have no say. fine, keep on going.
Sire.*
And my Views are just different from yours is all. iPrefer Worthy Win Over a Easy Win.
iNoticed you're ridiculous for not tryin' answer back b'kuz you're Tamed.
...Unless you like prove me wrong?

iNever said anyone was wrong between yours and my replies.
If you're askin'/implyin' bring others'into our convo. Just state who is "Everyone" at least.

The players,I've mention'd are players who went on and on and on 'bout the same thing with meh but were too blind/stubborn/scared to not see/try wha I've ask'd. ~ Yet,iTry'd stuff on their behalf~


Meh, ill leave you alone.
Meh ?

[bronx90]

Beta Era(?) : Up 'Til EXParty was taken away + School involvement. Summer just end'd,too.
Rawr and Diak aren't the only Guilds still livin'.

Rawr
Valkyrie's Lil' Chains -> Protect -> Burr -> Fridays
You're also forgettin' G-String(Magic Players~) -> Dozens of Guilds -> TeamLayton.
7Up
BabyPoPs Guild ... They're slowly gettin' ban now. BM already been ban.
Bishop Club -> Diak

Rawr just builds'players and PvP/GBs anytime,any moment.
Friday has the most Wins. With the best Ratio.
TeamLayton is bunch of friends and PvPs 'bout anytime.
BabyPoP Guilds just like to glitch and actually show it.
7UP is Diverse,literally with BR,Spanish,English,Etc.
Diak just has exclusive guild. Thats'bout it.

Rawr > Diak . Anyday.
Only guild iSee an equal to Rawr is Azure(Zero's Guild).
iKinda like 7Up's Guild but evar since they allow BabyPoPs into their guild for Glitchin' in GuildBattles.
My view has been changed.



He's just messin' around lookin' for attention.Ignore it.

Yeah I've figured.

Guilds aren't my expertise so i have no reason to comment any further.I'll say this though.

A Guild is a family..that bonds and takes care of one another. In battles, they show supreme teamwork. Everyone,despite if they like each other or not, has a connection and look out for one another.

I say this because when naming a great guild those are the usual qualities that must be taken into consideration. However, when naming the greatest guild, superior teamwork/ most successful/biggest impact/longetivity, are the things that must be taken seriously

Now Doki is rawr really the greatest or is this bias?

Who is really the greatest?

[bronx90]

because I said they're good, and my final word is the truth.

You even quoted my response and didn't see the true meaning... u b fayoool

I just thought if Donki can do it, why not me =]

lol i know trolling is fun to do and all but at least aftwards make a well thought out list that has a reason and legitimately makes sense follow by their accomplishments otherwise i can't debate with you and that's basically what this topic is all about (greatest of all time)

[bronx90]

looooool you're so damn superior and full of argument, yes alright, sir!
your generalisations alone are ridiculous. you will never notice that and you'll just talk and talk and talk blatantly.
so you think everyone's wrong but you. all those players you've mentioned have no say. fine, keep on going.

you're slightly getting sidetrack to prove a point ola..that's not what this is all about and at least keep a level head if anything.

[bronx90]

So you think "debating" about pvp is so important? This same thread brought up nothing but flaming airheads who don't understand that its just a game. They don't understand that its not a competition to win $100, nor a once in a lifetime thing. They want to make other feel like crap just so they can get attention. This is 1 of the reasons i hate pvp in mmorpgs. Its not just the bugs and glitches, its the competitive part of a person that just goes out of control. If you were a mod and just happen to look in one of the pvp rooms to see what's going on, you will see what i mean. Its like playing a sport at school, There will be somebody there who just won't play fair. You can go ahead and ignore this post all you want, but doki will continue saying the things he says, he'll just make more people angry.

star the world is harsh okay? that's just the way it is. Everyone is different and regardless of what the intentions of some individuals reasoning, it doesn't cause me to cancel a topic such as this. If anything just ignore it and at least give your list and some key factors as to why if your ever gonna comment here again

[doki_]

Yeah I've figured.

Guilds aren't my expertise so i have no reason to comment any further.I'll say this though.

A Guild is a family..that bonds and takes care of one another. In battles, they show supreme teamwork. Everyone,despite if they like each other or not, has a connection and look out for one another.

I say this because when naming a great guild those are the usual qualities that must be taken into consideration. However, when naming the greatest guild, superior teamwork/ most successful/biggest impact/longetivity, are the things that must be taken seriously

Now Doki is rawr really the greatest or is this bias?

Who is really the greatest?
Guild can be a family.* It isn't need'd to be a family. ~ iDon't participate in families anyways,blech.

Nah,no bias. Don't need to be either.
Can you name me guild ...
Livin' longer than Rawr?
Bigger Impact than Rawr?
Most Successful than Rawr? <- I'm not sure wha you mean by Successful,though.
Superior TeamWork ? Rawr doesn't have that...Unless "Superior" meanin'...?

Only guild comes'to mind is Valkyrie + Vallaha.
Other than that.There isn't any other.

[star4242]

star the world is harsh okay? that's just the way it is. Everyone is different and regardless of what the intentions of some individuals reasoning, it doesn't cause me to cancel a topic such as this. If anything just ignore it and at least give your list and some key factors as to why if your ever gonna comment here again

Fine. But no list from me. Im not gonna state which players are good in my point of view, you know why.

[longhairdontcare1]

Yeah I've figured.

Guilds aren't my expertise so i have no reason to comment any further.I'll say this though.

A Guild is a family..that bonds and takes care of one another. In battles, they show supreme teamwork. Everyone,despite if they like each other or not, has a connection and look out for one another.

I say this because when naming a great guild those are the usual qualities that must be taken into consideration. However, when naming the greatest guild, superior teamwork/ most successful/biggest impact/longetivity, are the things that must be taken seriously

Now Doki is rawr really the greatest or is this bias?

Who is really the greatest?

Friday the best guild if u wanna count good pvp'ers great teamwork and most wins we all had a strong friendship we woulda prob beat protects record if guilds was more active and wasnt scared to gb even daika sometimes didnt want to gb us so as far as them bein best nah ill pick rawr over daika there over rated they got like what 8 people in there guild with everyclass in that guild so they just change char's to make it a lil easier 4 them to win i used whoeva and worked :)

[longhairdontcare1]

and btw i seen it a couple times in here Burr is friday bcuz i been seein burr and friday on this list so does that make it a lil better knowin i had 2 awesome (miz voice) guilds lols

[star4242]

Can i just say something about best Mages? Woob was the best Elementist hands down "we all agree"
I DONT KNO where or why you guys even for a second though Trii was Good. Trii Sucked among all the Summoners that reached Lv 50. Trii couldnt Grab, he couldnt Fast Cast all he did was Spam Meteor in DeathMatch! Trii was never good at Pvp hes only a Spammer and this isnt a Diss. Trii was one of my best friends in Windslayer. When it comes to real skill Trii didnt have it back in the day a Summoner Meteor could take Half your HP and a FireBall would kill you ( thats only 2 hits ) 2 hitting players in DeathMatch and getting Genius before anyone else without being able to fast cast or even Grab = SPAMMER. Trii never 1v1 when Old players remember Trii he was the best Spammer

Meh, Woob was good Before he blew up after his account got banned.. :P

[doki_]

Swagg,don't forget to mention the Ele'z. Dammit. Don't forget thee Ele'z.


Can i just say something about best Mages? Woob was the best Elementist hands down "we all agree"
I DONT KNO where or why you guys even for a second though Trii was Good. Trii Sucked among all the Summoners that reached Lv 50. Trii couldnt Grab, he couldnt Fast Cast all he did was Spam Meteor in DeathMatch! Trii was never good at Pvp hes only a Spammer and this isnt a Diss. Trii was one of my best friends in Windslayer. When it comes to real skill Trii didnt have it back in the day a Summoner Meteor could take Half your HP and a FireBall would kill you ( thats only 2 hits ) 2 hitting players in DeathMatch and getting Genius before anyone else without being able to fast cast or even Grab = SPAMMER. Trii never 1v1 when Old players remember Trii he was the best Spammer
Why you hatin' on my nikka,Trii?
You best kno' your role and shut your damn mouth.

[longhairdontcare1]

like i said i used who eva was online :)

[doki_]

Lie'z,you didn't use 1st class players'evaaaar.

[longhairdontcare1]

well i only remember 1 player in burr/friday that was 1st class and it was some dude named Diamond. he was good so he got in gb's when needed and i used archers b4 >.>

[doki_]

Diamond. is of NovicePvP,so,yeah he is.
iKno' who he is.
He was targettin' meh in PvP with Taco's NovicePvP Style -_-

[star4242]

I dislike this Forum ! ! ! seems like a bunch of cry babbies going bac && forth

Best Player/Biggest Impact = Woob, Swagg, Doki "huge impact on newer players"
Kandoi "woobs rivial"
Best Spammer = Trii , JNAR2
Best Runner = Sain_
Best Trash Talker = Pops ,and all the Baby's
Best person to go to for advice = Doki,
Best cry baby = Toxicara

All of theres players are know for something right? Yes


Best Guild = Kings, record 100 wins 30 lose "only died cuz the leader was banned"
Longest Living Guild = Rawr, hands down been around longer then any other guild i seen
Best New Comming Guild = ~Burr~ && Friday, Both were swaggs guild and had alot of success
Best Guild for High Lv Players = Royalz

Who are you?

[doki_]

Who are you?

De Devil of WS o.o..

[bronx90]

someone explain to me why woob should be the greatest pvper of all time..seriously someone elaborate this one to me

[doki_]

He's just mostly well-known.
He suck at 1v1 same class type.
He only good as an Elementalist. thats'it.
Maybeh,Sniper.

[kabutogrimmjow111]

Ok so lets start

Bezerker
Jack3d

Paladin
UUuumm idk much good pallys so im ganna say drifter or monkeyz

Summoner
Ok so of all time i think its krzy4noodles

Elementalist
I dont beleive ther is one because of there skills

Trapper
Eeeehh Caz

Assassin
Simmy

Counter
I've beaten suldo a few times but i never could beat ~Smokey~

Shoalin
Gaawa

Sniper
Eeehh i gatta say Sevic (I miss you);.;

BeastMaster
I dont know Proly Tg(need to get 49)

DarkPreist
FUNKY! used to be good, but so was Sain_ so idk

Bishop
Hhhmm swagg

Novice
Doki_

[kabutogrimmjow111]

someone explain to me why woob should be the greatest pvper of all time..seriously someone elaborate this one to me

Lol woob wasn't he failed with intensity, he lost to Fabbio Bad and i could beat woob.
i only had trouble against woob on his sniper causs i was on a lvl 35 summoner and he fails on his new assassin too.

[kabutogrimmjow111]

B'kuz iTamed,HolyStruck'd for those spots.

Doki your not even that good.

[doki_]

Doki your not even that good.
If you don't have DarkPriest,BeastMaster,Paladin. ~ Please don't try to say how "that good" is.
'Til you or someone can knock me off then I'll replace myself with that name.

[longhairdontcare1]

If you don't have DarkPriest,BeastMaster,Paladin. ~ Please don't try to say how "that good" is.
'Til you or someone can knock me off then I'll replace myself with that name.

doki remember i beat ya bm awhile ago the REAL me ;)

[dragonknighteragon]

Ok so lets start

Bezerker
Jack3d

Paladin
UUuumm idk much good pallys so im ganna say drifter or monkeyz

Summoner
Ok so of all time i think its krzy4noodles

Elementalist
I dont beleive ther is one because of there skills

Trapper
Eeeehh Caz

Assassin
Simmy

Counter
I've beaten suldo a few times but i never could beat ~Smokey~

Shoalin
Gaawa

Sniper
Eeehh i gatta say Sevic (I miss you);.;

BeastMaster
I dont know Proly Tg(need to get 49)

DarkPreist
FUNKY! used to be good, but so was Sain_ so idk

Bishop
Hhhmm swagg

Novice
Doki_

krzy4noodles isn't good in the first place,Sain_ is ulmt-based :S

[doki_]

doki remember i beat ya bm awhile ago the REAL me ;)
Yeah,you did.
Just remember what happened afterwards when iWas able to GFC due to our deal[Then you start'd not goin' with thee deal.] (: +4 WinStreak~

Have fun 1v1in' players that you don't give the option to GFC.

[longhairdontcare1]

Yeah,you did.
Just remember what happened afterwards when iWas able to GFC due to our deal[Then you start'd not goin' with thee deal.] (: +4 WinStreak~

Have fun 1v1in' players that you don't give the option to GFC.

now that i dont remember plus if u was best u would adapt 2 it like me and others did instead ove use it as ya excuse all the time ;)

[doki_]

Swagg,you're losin' focus.
Don't try make-up an "Excuse" for Tamer as your excuse to not let Tamer GFC.
Kuz iAin't got no excuse only thing iAsk'd and everyone should ask Swagg is...
"Question : Why don't you let Tamer GFC on you,Swagg?"
But you're just BabyPoP Follow'r so go to usin' whatever you need to use enable to win.


Fact
"Why don't you let Tamer GFC on you,Swagg?"
Swagg : Not my fault Tamer can't do it.
Tamer : He knows'he'll get Tamed

Fact 2
Tamer gets'moar grabs than Swagg as BM. Yet Tamer can't GFC. ~ Pity.

[longhairdontcare1]

Swagg,you're losin' focus.
Don't try make-up an "Excuse" for Tamer as your excuse to not let Tamer GFC.
Kuz iAin't got no excuse only thing iAsk'd and everyone should ask Swagg is...
"Question : Why don't you let Tamer GFC on you,Swagg?"
But you're just BabyPoP Follow'r so go to usin' whatever you need to use enable to win.


Fact
"Why don't you let Tamer GFC on you,Swagg?"
Swagg : Not my fault Tamer can't do it.
Tamer : He knows'he'll get Tamed

Fact 2
Tamer gets'moar grabs than Swagg as BM. Yet Tamer can't GFC. ~ Pity.

even if u knew how 2fastcast u still wouldnt be good and imma babypop follow'r? how do i follow sumbody i dont even like?

fact 2 i let u grab cuz u cant do nothin with a grab DUH and everybodys kno's when i had bm all i did was grabbed unless u try 2 jump all game then ill stop grabn
im better then u doki just leave it at that gfc no gfc dont matter ull always be known so just cutt that best ove everyclass stuff out cuz ull never be best and ill prob never be best

[Simmy]

Assassin
Simmy


<3

lalalala

[doki_]

even if u knew how 2fastcast u still wouldnt be good and imma babypop follow'r? how do i follow sumbody i dont even like?

fact 2 i let u grab cuz u cant do nothin with a grab DUH and everybodys kno's when i had bm all i did was grabbed unless u try 2 jump all game then ill stop grabn
im better then u doki just leave it at that gfc no gfc dont matter ull always be known so just cutt that best ove everyclass stuff out cuz ull never be best and ill prob never be best

I wouldn't be good if iCould FC/GFC?
You said it yourself that I was "scary" in our 1v1 BM kuz iWas grabbin'.
Grab+Ice+Jump while doin' some weird moves,lol+Grab+Fire~
iWas even spammin'. Grab+Ice+Emophant/Hawk/Fire.

iGot a story with the "GFC." iFought Lokket who is a Trapper.
Lokket/[Lokii] thought she could kill me while iGFC. iKill'd her 3-1.
After that she start'd to block just like you did in the BM 1v1. Didn't count'em.
Then she didn't lemme GFC anymoar killed me for a good 2-0.
iStart'd usin' hops/small platform. She was Stun/Puppetin' like BaByPoP but was failin' at it. 3-2.
Last Round : she was runnin' at the last 20secs z.z then Woob MSN'd meh and iStood there and took like 5-7 hits'on meh,iCould've heal'd. 3-3. Then iGot out to talk on MSN.

You let BabyPoP into your Burr Guild and MP Glitch while GuildBattlin'. Thats'why you're Follow'r. Idk,if you like her or not.iDon't like BabyGang only 1-2 off their people,thats'it.

Tamer. Vs Swagg's BM. STD,No Jewelery. Tamer is allowed to GFC.
Area : Chosen By Swagg.

You can choose the area.iWon't care if you jump off platform or onto kuz iCan grab,mate.
All iNeed is that Grab and you're Tamed.

[longhairdontcare1]

I wouldn't be good if iCould FC/GFC?
You said it yourself that I was "scary" in our 1v1 BM kuz iWas grabbin'.
Grab+Ice+Jump while doin' some weird moves,lol+Grab+Fire~
iWas even spammin'. Grab+Ice+Emophant/Hawk/Fire.

iGot a story with the "GFC." iFought Lokket who is a Trapper.
Lokket/[Lokii] thought she could kill me while iGFC. iKill'd her 3-1.
After that she start'd to block just like you did in the BM 1v1. Didn't count'em.
Then she didn't lemme GFC anymoar killed me for a good 2-0.
iStart'd usin' hops/small platform. She was Stun/Puppetin' like BaByPoP but was failin' at it. 3-2.
Last Round : she was runnin' at the last 20secs z.z then Woob MSN'd meh and iStood there and took like 5-7 hits'on meh,iCould've heal'd. 3-3. Then iGot out to talk on MSN.

You let BabyPoP into your Burr Guild and MP Glitch while GuildBattlin'. Thats'why you're Follow'r. Idk,if you like her or not.iDon't like BabyGang only 1-2 off their people,thats'it.

Tamer. Vs Swagg's BM. STD,No Jewelery. Tamer is allowed to GFC.
Area : Chosen By Swagg.

You can choose the area.iWon't care if you jump off platform or onto kuz iCan grab,mate.
All iNeed is that Grab and you're Tamed.

idc for lokket it aint me idk them so ay do u lol

2nd lasttime i let sumbody in my guild was idk i was leader ove friday nobody never wanted to gb us FACT so i gave smokey the leadership he let them in i got banned when i got friday back smokey was holdn burr on an alt he's been leader eversince so i never let the pops in there 2 ****y 4 me i dont like gb'in wit them

u still didnt win with ya lil gfc stuff bcuz i was getn tired ove fightn u a bm fight is borin when all u do is tank u wanted 2 fight till u got the lead which didnt work so u got tamed bruh wut wus it like 15-11 really shoulda been 17 tho

[bronx90]

so we're discussing greatest of all time and you two fight ? hahaha

for what the whole game is glitch'd anyone can win..my 2 year old nephew spam my serker and won

[longhairdontcare1]

so we're discussing greatest of all time and you two fight ? hahaha

for what the whole game is glitch'd anyone can win..my 2 year old nephew spam my serker and won

nah u just like messin wit doki that fight was older since he's "best ove every class" but cant win

[doki_]

so we're discussing greatest of all time and you two fight ? hahaha

for what the whole game is glitch'd anyone can win..my 2 year old nephew spam my serker and won

....So,who are ya again,mate?

[doki_]

idc for lokket it aint me idk them so ay do u lol

2nd lasttime i let sumbody in my guild was idk i was leader ove friday nobody never wanted to gb us FACT so i gave smokey the leadership he let them in i got banned when i got friday back smokey was holdn burr on an alt he's been leader eversince so i never let the pops in there 2 ****y 4 me i dont like gb'in wit them

u still didnt win with ya lil gfc stuff bcuz i was getn tired ove fightn u a bm fight is borin when all u do is tank u wanted 2 fight till u got the lead which didnt work so u got tamed bruh wut wus it like 15-11 really shoulda been 17 tho
Idk whachu said but okay.

iDon't like BaByPoP'z. They be MP Glitchin'.

You didn't even lemme GFC for the full course of the 1v1.
iHad make a deal with you while we were already in progress of 1v1in'.
Though,you didn't go by it afterwards'kuz you knew you were goin' lose.

iDon'tKno' where you gettin' 17-11 Score when you just said I'm allow'd to GFC.
Wha-wha-wha 17-11..?
If you really did get 17-11 off me while GFCin'.
Please do it again.
Oh,gawd plz. DO IT AGAIN!
iGotta see this for myself and experience this 17 Swagg - 11 Tamer + Tamed allow'd to GFC.
C'mere and do it again.

You can talk and talk,Swagg.
iDon'tCare.
But it still stands :
Swagg's BM(GFC) > Tamer(No GFC).
Swagg's BM(GFC) < Tamer(GFC).

Swagg's BM only better due to upper-advantage of GFC in the Game Mechanics against Tamer whom is Handicapp'd and unable perform the GFC correctly.

So,if you're goin' talk whos' better. Least be truthful 'bout it.
This is wha you should be sayin'..
Example 1 : iCan beat Tamer since iCan GFC unlike him.
Example 2 : iCan beat Tamer since iCan GFC and he can't.
Example 3 : Tamer can't GFC like iCan so I'll always'win.
Example 4 : Tamer Sux. He can't even GFC like iCan.
..
Basically,just say you're able to GFC and I'm unable to GFC. Thats'all/it.

[longhairdontcare1]

Idk whachu said but okay.

iDon't like BaByPoP'z. They be MP Glitchin'.

You didn't even lemme GFC for the full course of the 1v1.
iHad make a deal with you while we were already in progress of 1v1in'.
Though,you didn't go by it afterwards'kuz you knew you were goin' lose.

iDon'tKno' where you gettin' 17-11 Score when you just said I'm allow'd to GFC.
Wha-wha-wha 17-11..?
If you really did get 17-11 off me while GFCin'.
Please do it again.
Oh,gawd plz. DO IT AGAIN!
iGotta see this for myself and experience this 17 Swagg - 11 Tamer + Tamed allow'd to GFC.
C'mere and do it again.

You can talk and talk,Swagg.
iDon'tCare.
But it still stands :
Swagg's BM(GFC) > Tamer(No GFC).
Swagg's BM(GFC) < Tamer(GFC).

Swagg's BM only better due to upper-advantage of GFC in the Game Mechanics against Tamer whom is Handicapp'd and unable perform the GFC correctly.

So,if you're goin' talk whos' better. Least be truthful 'bout it.
This is wha you should be sayin'..
Example 1 : iCan beat Tamer since iCan GFC unlike him.
Example 2 : iCan beat Tamer since iCan GFC and he can't.
Example 3 : Tamer can't GFC like iCan so I'll always'win.
Example 4 : Tamer Sux. He can't even GFC like iCan.
..
Basically,just say you're able to GFC and I'm unable to GFC. Thats'all/it.

thats ya excuse 4 everything doki just learn how 2 adapt 2 it jeez then ill make a new bm 41 just for i wont need elphant if ur so pro it should be easy 2 take over and leanr sumthin new instead ove cryn about it everytime u looose like others did just pratice wit ya mates ull get there and u didnt even beat sas on bm and he cant fc nor cata lol

[longhairdontcare1]

....So,who are ya again,mate?

thats brutalpears i seen his id when i check 4 my shao on leaderboards lol

[star4242]

Bleh this thread needs to die. Im getting deja Vu of Cazoup's thread.. >.>

[dragonknighteragon]

That's why I usually don't comment on threads that involve "Who's the best player,Top 10 PvPers,etc." They just end up in fights/flamming etc.

[doki_]

thats ya excuse 4 everything doki just learn how 2 adapt 2 it jeez then ill make a new bm 41 just for i wont need elphant if ur so pro it should be easy 2 take over and leanr sumthin new instead ove cryn about it everytime u looose like others did just pratice wit ya mates ull get there and u didnt even beat sas on bm and he cant fc nor cata lol
Well,you just admitted to my post.
Adapt? iHave but only with NewComers not PvP-Wise. Still looks da same..
Well.. There is MP Glitchin' but ehh.[Shrugs]

iDon'tCare 'bout who's best at BM or anyone better than meh.
I'm freakin' God.
and Its'March.
Tiramisu B'Day <3 And. iGot things to do. and goin' gett'em done

[doki_]

That's why I usually don't comment on threads that involve "Who's the best player,Top 10 PvPers,etc." They just end up in fights/flamming etc.

Kuz you'll nvr be on it...o-o

[suldo]

Finally someone who actually remembers that i used to defeat Medaka & Oyaji at their prime time.
bronx90 I'm not sure who you are, but seems like you know me very well.. Your description about me since gng til this day it's very accurate.
Everyone else who named me, Thanks i appreciate the recognize a 100%.

I'm going to put out there that some of you forgot about Yuske (Counter) even tho i used to beat him.. he was very.. very good back in the days & he teach me how to pvp so mad props to him, he deserves to be recognized.
Good counters that are active:
1.Smokey
2.Swag
3.Bravers

(Bravers) = Every time i saw her i asked her to 1v1 me since people were telling me she was good. When we got to PVP she beat me but with help, she had like 40% movement speed. (even with boost help i got her to red HP) Since that fight she started to avoid me from 1v1s..Everytime i asked her she ignored me until 1 day that we 1v1 countless rounds. I beat her over and over and this time she did not have the Cash Shop Boost.

(Swag) = His good.. i respect him even tho his a ****** lol, we PVP most times..He is able to beat me but i beat him more. Let's say he got like a 45% of beating me while i have 75% of beating him.

(Smokey) = I'm going to put out the fact that i trained this kid and i teach him my combos & my style of fighting, I don't respect the kid anymore & if i had the chance i would take back of teaching this kid the counter ways. Why? Because his a ****y disrespectful ******, I teach the kid basically everything giving a flaw to me of him knowing me a 100%. Now that he knows me very well & he can beat me, he goes around dissing me that i suck and such..come on you guys do the judge a mentor that teach you his ways you got to respect him even tho you can beat him because he teach you his flaws and recognition.

Anyways, my list coming soon.
Take care all.

[longhairdontcare1]

Finally someone who actually remembers that i used to defeat Medaka & Oyaji at their prime time.
bronx90 I'm not sure who you are, but seems like you know me very well.. Your description about me since gng til this day it's very accurate.
Everyone else who named me, Thanks i appreciate the recognize a 100%.

I'm going to put out there that some of you forgot about Yuske (Counter) even tho i used to beat him.. he was very.. very good back in the days & he teach me how to pvp so mad props to him, he deserves to be recognized.
Good counters that are active:
1.Smokey
2.Swag
3.Bravers

(Bravers) = Every time i saw her i asked her to 1v1 me since people were telling me she was good. When we got to PVP she beat me but with help, she had like 40% movement speed. (even with boost help i got her to red HP) Since that fight she started to avoid me from 1v1s..Everytime i asked her she ignored me until 1 day that we 1v1 countless rounds. I beat her over and over and this time she did not have the Cash Shop Boost.

(Swag) = His good.. i respect him even tho his a ****** lol, we PVP most times..He is able to beat me but i beat him more. Let's say he got like a 45% of beating me while i have 75% of beating him.

(Smokey) = I'm going to put out the fact that i trained this kid and i teach him my combos & my style of fighting, I don't respect the kid anymore & if i had the chance i would take back of teaching this kid the counter ways. Why? Because his a ****y disrespectful ******, I teach the kid basically everything giving a flaw to me of him knowing me a 100%. Now that he knows me very well & he can beat me, he goes around dissing me that i suck and such..come on you guys do the judge a mentor that teach you his ways you got to respect him even tho you can beat him because he teach you his flaws and recognition.

Anyways, my list coming soon.
Take care all.

lol wow i only get a 45% suldo u kno better then that lil bulky dude i can beat u its just ya countin tends 2 make me fail idk how tho but wow XD i wanna comment on the counters now

Bravers- she's more ove the team pvp counter i dont see her 1v1 much and when i asked her for a 1v1 she said no so aye >.>

Suldo- we fight everyday when we aint countin i win when u start countin idk y but i cant seem 2 focus

smokey- suldo did teach him he use to pvp like cata so he came 2 me when i had my 1st counter (better then i am now) and asked for help i taught him a lil meele then went to suldo got combo's now he just a lil meele combo manic

*still think he grew better then u sully* :P lols

[dragonknighteragon]

Kuz you'll nvr be on it...o-o

No I just don't care. o.o

[gutoku]

ive been here before everyone who has commented on this thread i will make a list of people that i believe are the best and why.

bishop=idk
darkpriest=galad before he went emo on me
zerker=fangdang he is better than pho
paladin=that one guy fojib
ele=umm kandori?
summ= FABBIO
sniper=blue
bm=blue
shaolin=eddo
counter= idk the old ones but since suldo does cart combo like an asian eats rice its suldo
assassin=idk los was good then became crap so ummm anyone
trapper= now this one is a bit annoying to explain again i may be distracted when it comes to combat but bronx is accurate about me which is creepy and im locking my door tonight. frowsty was my RIVAL but i did have a higher win percentage over him. neoshadows was a force but again i dominated him. and btw people incase you wanted to know the original RAT was the first trapper.

as for doki i only knew him as the person who wouldnt get a class and stay on novice cause he would kill all the knew people and rank up and be known through them other than that he was attached to woob.

now woob well woob is like a 12 year old on crack he also tried to cyber with me and about 5 other people.

the eles along with summs and bishops lost their fear when the fast cast was basically taken away.

the shoas and coounters its basically a button fest with cart and that trip and six hit

and ya i learned the puppet combo from final kill but im the reason people got it fixed.and ive been banned twice because people didnt like fighting me. the red name was bad *** though.

and thats my list thing. umm ill let you guess who i am

[dragonknighteragon]

the shoas and coounters its basically a button fest with cart and that trip and six hit


Lawl "Button Fest"

[doki_]

ive been here before everyone who has commented on this thread i will make a list of people that i believe are the best and why.

bishop=idk
darkpriest=galad before he went emo on me
zerker=fangdang he is better than pho
paladin=that one guy fojib
ele=umm kandori?
summ= FABBIO
sniper=blue
bm=blue
shaolin=eddo
counter= idk the old ones but since suldo does cart combo like an asian eats rice its suldo
assassin=idk los was good then became crap so ummm anyone
trapper= now this one is a bit annoying to explain again i may be distracted when it comes to combat but bronx is accurate about me which is creepy and im locking my door tonight. frowsty was my RIVAL but i did have a higher win percentage over him. neoshadows was a force but again i dominated him. and btw people incase you wanted to know the original RAT was the first trapper.

as for doki i only knew him as the person who wouldnt get a class and stay on novice cause he would kill all the knew people and rank up and be known through them other than that he was attached to woob.

now woob well woob is like a 12 year old on crack he also tried to cyber with me and about 5 other people.

the eles along with summs and bishops lost their fear when the fast cast was basically taken away.

the shoas and coounters its basically a button fest with cart and that trip and six hit

and ya i learned the puppet combo from final kill but im the reason people got it fixed.and ive been banned twice because people didnt like fighting me. the red name was bad *** though.

and thats my list thing. umm ill let you guess who i am
Another GnG'r mentionin' basically GnG'rs.
Lame. Old. Can't you GnG'rs do somethin' different for once instead of namin' ea' other in exchange be on the other GnG'rs' list?

Frowsty is can KnockOut/Kill you in 1v1.
Who cares who beat who moar.
Its'all 'bout "Now or Never."


Gettin' at me won't putchu on my level. iAlrdy told you. I'm God of WindSlayer
No,I'm not attach'd to Woob. I'm attach'd to being Godly.
Anyways,just keep to your word. You'll be joinin' my Guild when iGet WindSlayer's Population Up.
Or in your words,"I'll join if you get me more heads to kill."

[gutoku]

that contract was made between daggerjoe and i since you lied about being who you were it is null and void. regardless if you can get ws up.

and about my list no the "gngrs" as you call us those people are the best. and doki you did post that i was the all time best trapper and that is how you decide on who is better by the amoutn of wins and losses? and if you want here and now when frowsty quit he let his cousin or who ever on his and he came back on and i beat him. and you did put yourself on a list of the best nearly the entire list.

and you are not the god of windslayer

[doki_]

that contract was made between daggerjoe and i since you lied about being who you were it is null and void. regardless if you can get ws up.

and about my list no the "gngrs" as you call us those people are the best. and doki you did post that i was the all time best trapper and that is how you decide on who is better by the amoutn of wins and losses? and if you want here and now when frowsty quit he let his cousin or who ever on his and he came back on and i beat him. and you did put yourself on a list of the best nearly the entire list.

and you are not the god of windslayer
Wha are you talkin' 'bout? iNever lied to you whom iWas. iTold you iWas "Daggerjoe" and iLol'd at that.Then you were like rantin' sayin iWasn't. Then iTold you I'm Doki.
And you start'd to rant again.
"Contract" You mean puttin' GnG'rs only?O.o

You are not true to your word,iAssume then?
If so,then so be it.
But just prepared for my Godly Ways.

Are The Best? iCan name better players. WAY BETTER Players.
You are the All Time Best trapper.. iDon't remember postin' that. Where is that?
Frowsty is the best trapper evar.
Nearly the Entire List? iOnly chose 3 Class ; BM,Priest/DP,Pally.
Theres 6 Classes,12 2nd Jobs. 1 Novice. Thats'13 Classes all together.
3/13 is nearly..?

Tell me why I'm not God Of WindSlayer?
Explain,I'm quite confused by your misjudgment on my Godly ways.
You'll soon find out wha GodofWS can do.

[xxdont-fallxx]

Now I have been with Windslayer since the year of 2008 (wow time flew by lol) fast forward to the current year 2011 there's not much going on except pvping, old players recreating there selves as new players (lol) and a lot of arguing b/t old friends. Nevertheless, we're all a family in a weird way and we do look out for each other (hopefully). With that being said i created this topic b/c i think it is time to discuss who is pretty much the greatest pvper..of all time. The greatest pvper should not only have amazing melee skills and perfect precise timing on skill usage but should also have influential power that could inspire others i guess you could say (lol). the combination of pvp skills and influential power is what truly makes a pvper the greatest.Now that's not the case all the time but if we're gonna dig into windslayers history to remember the all time greats for that certain year, then it is require. First, lets start with your opinion on the single greatest pvper for their class. By the way guys can you really think about this instead of silly replies..thnx :)

Greatest Berserker of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Paladin of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Elementalist of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Summoner of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Sniper of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest BeastMaster of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Assassin of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Trapper of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Bishop of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Dark Priest of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Shaolin of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Counter of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Novice of All Time
1. Individuals Name

Greatest Overall Pvper of All Time
1. Individuals Name


When you pick that individual, they should also epitomize their class to pure perfection along with their distinct melee skills that makes them instantly recognizable..have fun,think hard and good luck.

There is no #1 Pvper of all time consider most people vote for themselves so honestly doing threads like this is a big waste of time.

[doki_]

its'Creep :O

[randomess]

Another GnG'r mentionin' basically GnG'rs.
I'm God of WindSlayer
"

DAM you have HUGE EGO just sayin o-o
or it means somethin else? i don't know i don't following this fourm or any o-o

[doki_]

DAM you have HUGE EGO just sayin o-o
or it means somethin else? i don't know i don't following this fourm or any o-o

Indeed,iDo : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW5EzxFR4SM
ToBeHonest,its'nuffin' 'til March is done~ iJust talkin' now.
Givin' y'all glimpse of the future.

[xxdont-fallxx]

Doki is out of his ****ing mind.

[star4242]

Doki is out of his ****ing mind.
No, he's just power-hungry. :P

[doki_]

No, he's just power-hungry. :P


Doki is out of his ****ing mind.

Mmm.. Whats'wrong for meh callin' myself "GawdOfWS"?

[bronx90]

Swagg..wouldn't except you to go so far as to discover who I am but then again it was only a matter of time.

I'm Jason..a analyst..a individual that witness every single event possible in this game for 3 years..i was active since gng..early beta era..took a hiatus to go pursue my career..came back and created a experimented character name brutalpeers..he was a fail to begin but i pursue with that character anyway

I've grown bored of that fail'd and decided it's time to revive my old grim reaper..Jason the tactical assassin..now to be specific i'm more of a analyzer and observer that studies people than a actual pvper. so my knowledge should be the most reliable

With that out the way, I took the time to read every individuals comment. Let me start with Doki.

Doki I've told you before that my updated list is the most accurate if you count the 3 main important factors
1. Impact
2. Influence
3. Skills
Optional: Longetivity

If you can show me a list that surpasses mines with the factors taken into consideration, show me the list. sure there are going to be individuals that have slightly better skills in the melee factor but overall there's no one in this game as of yet. if the game dies..there will never be one.

Suldo and Mvffiny

Like i mention before I'm a figure that observes more so than fight. I took the time to observe most of you two's matches..so my knowledge of both of you are pretty accurate..


Now I'm still confused as to why Woob or Swagg/Bravers/ is mention in the great pvper title

[star4242]

Mmm.. Whats'wrong for meh callin' myself "GawdOfWS"?

You chose yourself to become a god without a poll or anything like that.

[moneymakinmarty1]

Swagg..wouldn't except you to go so far as to discover who I am but then again it was only a matter of time.

I'm Jason..a analyst..a individual that witness every single event possible in this game for 3 years..i was active since gng..early beta era..took a hiatus to go pursue my career..came back and created a experimented character name brutalpeers..he was a fail to begin but i pursue with that character anyway

I've grown bored of that fail'd and decided it's time to revive my old grim reaper..Jason the tactical assassin..now to be specific i'm more of a analyzer and observer that studies people than a actual pvper. so my knowledge should be the most reliable

With that out the way, I took the time to read every individuals comment. Let me start with Doki.

Doki I've told you before that my updated list is the most accurate if you count the 3 main important factors
1. Impact
2. Influence
3. Skills
Optional: Longetivity

If you can show me a list that surpasses mines with the factors taken into consideration, show me the list. sure there are going to be individuals that have slightly better skills in the melee factor but overall there's no one in this game as of yet. if the game dies..there will never be one.

Suldo and Mvffiny

Like i mention before I'm a figure that observes more so than fight. I took the time to observe most of you two's matches..so my knowledge of both of you are pretty accurate..


Now I'm still confused as to why Woob or Swagg/Bravers/ is mention in the great pvper title

i been knew it was u since i had my old acc's when i was lookn at rankins i seen ya id cuz i said i like that id he's reppin his town lol

and i kno im not the greatest pvp'er to ever play aye in my opinion nobody really is because not 1 player can beat every other player and same class char as theirs

but i do think im great bcuz i can take anyclass and be good with it unlike others so as far as that goes yea ;)

[moneymakinmarty1]

Mmm.. Whats'wrong for meh callin' myself "GawdOfWS"?

if ur GawdOfWs then Im SwaggThaPhenom XD

[deoxys114]

This may be 16 pages too late, but Star, I didn't beat a 10v1, only a 9v1. ^^

[doki_]

You chose yourself to become a god without a poll or anything like that.
And iThink "God" isn't the word.
Its'GawdofWS.
Theres clearly a different between God and GawdofWS.

...and You chose your name as star4242 without a poll or anythin' like that.

[doki_]

if ur GawdOfWs then Im SwaggThaPhenom XD

Phenom reminds meh of the ....Deadman,UnderTaker :o

[doki_]

Swagg..wouldn't except you to go so far as to discover who I am but then again it was only a matter of time.

I'm Jason..a analyst..a individual that witness every single event possible in this game for 3 years..i was active since gng..early beta era..took a hiatus to go pursue my career..came back and created a experimented character name brutalpeers..he was a fail to begin but i pursue with that character anyway

I've grown bored of that fail'd and decided it's time to revive my old grim reaper..Jason the tactical assassin..now to be specific i'm more of a analyzer and observer that studies people than a actual pvper. so my knowledge should be the most reliable

With that out the way, I took the time to read every individuals comment. Let me start with Doki.

Doki I've told you before that my updated list is the most accurate if you count the 3 main important factors
1. Impact
2. Influence
3. Skills
Optional: Longetivity

If you can show me a list that surpasses mines with the factors taken into consideration, show me the list. sure there are going to be individuals that have slightly better skills in the melee factor but overall there's no one in this game as of yet. if the game dies..there will never be one.

Suldo and Mvffiny

Like i mention before I'm a figure that observes more so than fight. I took the time to observe most of you two's matches..so my knowledge of both of you are pretty accurate..


Now I'm still confused as to why Woob or Swagg/Bravers/ is mention in the great pvper title
You're witness. A GnG'r. Innocent Bystander.
I'm a Creator.I'm Producer,I'm Maker. iAm Doki~,Tamer,Pervert.
I'm GawdOfWS.

You're GnG'r who's mind is trapp'd into the GnG lyfe. You can't forget your ol' mates. That is why you mention them for they won't be forgotten. That is why you mention their names to pass on their "Legacy" to retell of these ol' players.

I've been here since GnG as well.
I've seen the NewComers,UpStart'r.The Rise,The Fall.The Ego-Maniacs,The Betrayal. The Glitch,The Hack. The Drama,The Love,The Hate. THe GuildVsGuildFueds.The "I'm In This Guild But iHate Players In This Guild." The Jobb'rs,The Novices.
And most importantly,I've seen.
LeaderShip Of A Guild.

You speak of impact but you're forgettin' this OutSpark WindSlayer.
Those players you mention aren't even heard of today well.
iRarely hear such a name of what you list'd.
Players'now wouldn't even kno'. "Well,they're new."
Yeah,they may be new but how is it that iWas so well-known thru out players iNever even came in contact with?
This also applies to Woob,Swagg,DinoSlayer,Bravers.

Bravers,Woob are mention because they were so well disliked,well liked and well at PvP.
They also led Guilds as well. Valkyrie/Vallaha and Kings.

[star4242]

And iThink "God" isn't the word.
Its'GawdofWS.
Theres clearly a different between God and GawdofWS.

...and You chose your name as star4242 without a poll or anythin' like that.

Doesn't matter. They both pronounce and mean the same word. You just changed it to internet slang. :P Plus how i can i make a poll for my nickname when i didn't make an account at all?

[star4242]

This may be 16 pages too late, but Star, I didn't beat a 10v1, only a 9v1. ^^

Eh, It was still fun to watch. XD

[doki_]

Doesn't matter. They both pronounce and mean the same word. You just changed it to internet slang. :P Plus how i can i make a poll for my nickname when i didn't make an account at all?
It doesn't matter..?
Yes,it does matter.
GodOfWS is what iSaid/Say. GawdOfWS/GodOfWS same thing to meh.
"God" only isn't what I'm askin' for or anythin'.
Its'simply. GodOfWS / GawdOfWS.
Internet slang doesn't matter to me.

As for your question. I'll use wha you did. "Doesn't matter."
Now you take it upon yourself explain why it does matter just as iDid.
Monkey See,Monkey Do. z.z

[star4242]

It doesn't matter..?
Yes,it does matter.
GodOfWS is what iSaid/Say. GawdOfWS/GodOfWS same thing to meh.
"God" only isn't what I'm askin' for or anythin'.
Its'simply. GodOfWS / GawdOfWS.
Internet slang doesn't matter to me.

As for your question. I'll use wha you did. "Doesn't matter."
Now you take it upon yourself explain why it does matter just as iDid.
Monkey See,Monkey Do. z.z

Ugh. Your really arrogant aren't you?

[doki_]

Ugh. Your really arrogant aren't you?

Whys'dat?
Is that kuz iCorrect'd chu..?
You're the one callin' me God.
When specifically said,GawdOfWS.

[star4242]

Whys'dat?
Is that kuz iCorrect'd chu..?
You're the one callin' me God.
When specifically said,GawdOfWS.

Uh. no. Its because your taking this game like Mount Olympus.

[bronx90]

You're witness. A GnG'r. Innocent Bystander.
I'm a Creator.I'm Producer,I'm Maker. iAm Doki~,Tamer,Pervert.
I'm GawdOfWS.

You're GnG'r who's mind is trapp'd into the GnG lyfe. You can't forget your ol' mates. That is why you mention them for they won't be forgotten. That is why you mention their names to pass on their "Legacy" to retell of these ol' players.

I've been here since GnG as well.
I've seen the NewComers,UpStart'r.The Rise,The Fall.The Ego-Maniacs,The Betrayal. The Glitch,The Hack. The Drama,The Love,The Hate. THe GuildVsGuildFueds.The "I'm In This Guild But iHate Players In This Guild." The Jobb'rs,The Novices.
And most importantly,I've seen.
LeaderShip Of A Guild.

You speak of impact but you're forgettin' this OutSpark WindSlayer.
Those players you mention aren't even heard of today well.
iRarely hear such a name of what you list'd.
Players'now wouldn't even kno'. "Well,they're new."
Yeah,they may be new but how is it that iWas so well-known thru out players iNever even came in contact with?
This also applies to Woob,Swagg,DinoSlayer,Bravers.

Bravers,Woob are mention because they were so well disliked,well liked and well at PvP.
They also led Guilds as well. Valkyrie/Vallaha and Kings.


...let me say this

Before Doki, I've told you that my list is far from bias and strictly made on a critic standpoint. Now I did expose a part of my past in this game only to clear the air. It's not to be use as ammunition for your dislike towards quote on quote "GNG'ers". Oddly enough, you're a former "GNG'er". The 2nd time Doki I request a list from you and yet again, you didn't deliver...but a sentence that's irrelevant "You're witness. A GnG'r. Innocent Bystander.I'm a Creator.I'm Producer,I'm Maker. iAm Doki~,Tamer,Pervert.
I'm GawdOfWS".

If a incident like this occurs once more, I'll lose interest and move on.

They're rarely mention simply because they are not with us anymore and move on to their goals in real life. That will be the most reasonable answer. The people that knew them well were gng-beta era and they too,left the game. The people that know of them are maybe post beta era-current era. To not witness their prime could be another significant reason as well

Woob and Bravers are mention because people like them and hate them and had guilds that were successful. They have a character for every class as well. Very good accomplishments. Here's one problem Doki..topic is greatest of all time..not currently.

Blue
To make his accomplishments summarize into a summary, he was the beatles of ws.
1. PvP rank was genius in every class
2. Experimented and gave birth to the original combos for every class..from there people made it their own giving different branches to the original
3. First to level above 50+ in every single class ( exp rate was terrible and impossible to make to 50 yet alone 50+)

Three VERY important accomplishments that will won't be duplicated because
1. He was the first..that alone can't be duplicated
2. 3 years from now there hasn't been one person on here that has all of their classes rank above genius
3. To be the first to level 50+, with every class, with terrible exp rate is just a accomplishment that's once in a lifetime or in his case.. a no life
4. Every single combo that's modified these days was a format that blue already explore and originated. So you're pretty much looking at blue's work in pvp

[Simmy]

Bronx... I like how you're trying to keep this thread on topic.

But with idiots (too obvious to mention) on this forum.
it wont work =[

Best person to rage in PvP:
StormRunner

he get mad quick.

[star4242]

Bronx... I like how you're trying to keep this thread on topic.

But with idiots (too obvious to mention) on this forum.
it wont work =[

Best person to rage in PvP:
StormRunner

he get mad quick.

Thank you for mentioning yourself. :)

[moneymakinmarty1]

...let me say this

Before Doki, I've told you that my list is far from bias and strictly made on a critic standpoint. Now I did expose a part of my past in this game only to clear the air. It's not to be use as ammunition for your dislike towards quote on quote "GNG'ers". Oddly enough, you're a former "GNG'er". The 2nd time Doki I request a list from you and yet again, you didn't deliver...but a sentence that's irrelevant "You're witness. A GnG'r. Innocent Bystander.I'm a Creator.I'm Producer,I'm Maker. iAm Doki~,Tamer,Pervert.
I'm GawdOfWS".

If a incident like this occurs once more, I'll lose interest and move on.

They're rarely mention simply because they are not with us anymore and move on to their goals in real life. That will be the most reasonable answer. The people that knew them well were gng-beta era and they too,left the game. The people that know of them are maybe post beta era-current era. To not witness their prime could be another significant reason as well

Woob and Bravers are mention because people like them and hate them and had guilds that were successful. They have a character for every class as well. Very good accomplishments. Here's one problem Doki..topic is greatest of all time..not currently.

Blue
To make his accomplishments summarize into a summary, he was the beatles of ws.
1. PvP rank was genius in every class
2. Experimented and gave birth to the original combos for every class..from there people made it their own giving different branches to the original
3. First to level above 50+ in every single class ( exp rate was terrible and impossible to make to 50 yet alone 50+)

Three VERY important accomplishments that will won't be duplicated because
1. He was the first..that alone can't be duplicated
2. 3 years from now there hasn't been one person on here that has all of their classes rank above genius
3. To be the first to level 50+, with every class, with terrible exp rate is just a accomplishment that's once in a lifetime or in his case.. a no life
4. Every single combo that's modified these days was a format that blue already explore and originated. So you're pretty much looking at blue's work in pvp

how come all the gng'ers pick other gng'ers cuz they was there 1st? lol

[moneymakinmarty1]

You're witness. A GnG'r. Innocent Bystander.
I'm a Creator.I'm Producer,I'm Maker. iAm Doki~,Tamer,Pervert.
I'm GawdOfWS.

You're GnG'r who's mind is trapp'd into the GnG lyfe. You can't forget your ol' mates. That is why you mention them for they won't be forgotten. That is why you mention their names to pass on their "Legacy" to retell of these ol' players.

I've been here since GnG as well.
I've seen the NewComers,UpStart'r.The Rise,The Fall.The Ego-Maniacs,The Betrayal. The Glitch,The Hack. The Drama,The Love,The Hate. THe GuildVsGuildFueds.The "I'm In This Guild But iHate Players In This Guild." The Jobb'rs,The Novices.
And most importantly,I've seen.
LeaderShip Of A Guild.

You speak of impact but you're forgettin' this OutSpark WindSlayer.
Those players you mention aren't even heard of today well.
iRarely hear such a name of what you list'd.
Players'now wouldn't even kno'. "Well,they're new."
Yeah,they may be new but how is it that iWas so well-known thru out players iNever even came in contact with?
This also applies to Woob,Swagg,DinoSlayer,Bravers.

Bravers,Woob are mention because they were so well disliked,well liked and well at PvP.
They also led Guilds as well. Valkyrie/Vallaha and Kings.

ikno everybody kno's SwaggyThaPhenom *undertakers voice* im tha 3rd or 4th generation legend muhahahahaha :P

[gutoku]

bronx your correct in your stement except that blue did not create all the combos tat players use today
and bronx i remember your character. now blue or blueing i was there when he started aswell not as his friend or ally but i was there when he started and not many know that people just dont like my play style and blah blah blah. he did develop certain tactics and a few combos and was literally a no lifer =D.



now doki is just trolling about beign gawd in the game he says he is the god of ws. so ignore him/her.

woob and bravers. now woob besides his cybering with random girls and guys on ws he was known in pvp for his rank and lvl and his fighting till he self destructed and became a pvp troll.

now bravers is a hybrid. a decent pvp had multiple classes.. but was a type of troll.

swagg people know your name from your accs and them being banned but mainly from the duo of sorts of swagg and frowsty your fights your team ups and so forth.

deo is a bish and needs to get stabbed in the back and is a bish >_> hes not the only one who has done a 9v1 and i did it without a frakken ele! =O.

this thread is only getting off topic cause of doki and his trolling, the list of bronx is the most accurate list to date but is not THE final list since people can make their own opinionated list but his is the most correct. and there in lies the debate since the pros cannot come back and defend their appointed titles and people debate their standings. his list and mine come from being their in th beginning watching the true pros start their growth and we size them up with the new players and the new players fall short which is why the old names are staying up on the lists. not because of favoritism suldo was a ****** and woob was a troll ******. and others and so forth blah blah blah. they got their pro titles because they earned it.

oh and doki you became known for being a "hype" troll you would rally the knewbies and "help" them and they spread like a parasite. your a walking chatroom troll. your pvp standings are minimal at best pervert is beatable when you dont just run everywhere to stall time. tamer if that was you or someone you were sharing with was good but still beatable by a variety of people. doki again was a novice who didnt want to class change cause you wanted to prey on the knew players with woodies.

star i dont exactly know or rememebr you so help me on that part.

feel free to agree disagree comment or address anything in my post

[moneymakinmarty1]

bronx your correct in your stement except that blue did not create all the combos tat players use today
and bronx i remember your character. now blue or blueing i was there when he started aswell not as his friend or ally but i was there when he started and not many know that people just dont like my play style and blah blah blah. he did develop certain tactics and a few combos and was literally a no lifer =D.



now doki is just trolling about beign gawd in the game he says he is the god of ws. so ignore him/her.

woob and bravers. now woob besides his cybering with random girls and guys on ws he was known in pvp for his rank and lvl and his fighting till he self destructed and became a pvp troll.

now bravers is a hybrid. a decent pvp had multiple classes.. but was a type of troll.

swagg people know your name from your accs and them being banned but mainly from the duo of sorts of swagg and frowsty your fights your team ups and so forth.

deo is a bish and needs to get stabbed in the back and is a bish >_> hes not the only one who has done a 9v1 and i did it without a frakken ele! =O.

this thread is only getting off topic cause of doki and his trolling, the list of bronx is the most accurate list to date but is not THE final list since people can make their own opinionated list but his is the most correct. and there in lies the debate since the pros cannot come back and defend their appointed titles and people debate their standings. his list and mine come from being their in th beginning watching the true pros start their growth and we size them up with the new players and the new players fall short which is why the old names are staying up on the lists. not because of favoritism suldo was a ****** and woob was a troll ******. and others and so forth blah blah blah. they got their pro titles because they earned it.

oh and doki you became known for being a "hype" troll you would rally the knewbies and "help" them and they spread like a parasite. your a walking chatroom troll. your pvp standings are minimal at best pervert is beatable when you dont just run everywhere to stall time. tamer if that was you or someone you were sharing with was good but still beatable by a variety of people. doki again was a novice who didnt want to class change cause you wanted to prey on the knew players with woodies.

star i dont exactly know or rememebr you so help me on that part.

feel free to agree disagree comment or address anything in my post

wrong this is my 1st time really banned while i was known so my ban had nothin 2 do wit it

[doki_]

...let me say this

Before Doki, I've told you that my list is far from bias and strictly made on a critic standpoint. Now I did expose a part of my past in this game only to clear the air. It's not to be use as ammunition for your dislike towards quote on quote "GNG'ers". Oddly enough, you're a former "GNG'er". The 2nd time Doki I request a list from you and yet again, you didn't deliver...but a sentence that's irrelevant "You're witness. A GnG'r. Innocent Bystander.I'm a Creator.I'm Producer,I'm Maker. iAm Doki~,Tamer,Pervert.
I'm GawdOfWS".

If a incident like this occurs once more, I'll lose interest and move on.

They're rarely mention simply because they are not with us anymore and move on to their goals in real life. That will be the most reasonable answer. The people that knew them well were gng-beta era and they too,left the game. The people that know of them are maybe post beta era-current era. To not witness their prime could be another significant reason as well

Woob and Bravers are mention because people like them and hate them and had guilds that were successful. They have a character for every class as well. Very good accomplishments. Here's one problem Doki..topic is greatest of all time..not currently.

Blue
To make his accomplishments summarize into a summary, he was the beatles of ws.
1. PvP rank was genius in every class
2. Experimented and gave birth to the original combos for every class..from there people made it their own giving different branches to the original
3. First to level above 50+ in every single class ( exp rate was terrible and impossible to make to 50 yet alone 50+)

Three VERY important accomplishments that will won't be duplicated because
1. He was the first..that alone can't be duplicated
2. 3 years from now there hasn't been one person on here that has all of their classes rank above genius
3. To be the first to level 50+, with every class, with terrible exp rate is just a accomplishment that's once in a lifetime or in his case.. a no life
4. Every single combo that's modified these days was a format that blue already explore and originated. So you're pretty much looking at blue's work in pvp

List :

Novice : Doki
BeastMaster : Tamer.,Tg
Sniper : ???
Elementalist : Bravers,Woob.
Summoner : ???
Trapper : Frowsty,NeoShadow
Assassin : ???
Shaolin : ???
Counter : Suldo,Smokey
DarkPriest : Funky!,Pervert
Bishop : ???
Paladin : ???
Zerker : ???
OverAll : Swagg,Woob,Doki,Bravers,Magics.

There's your list. The list has "???" because there isn't any players there to this day that are still talk'd 'bout in that certain class. ~ around me at least.
What "BIG IMPACT" they made that you add'd.
Omg,do you remember "<insert name>?"
Yeah,that list is true not a joke.
..................................
Thats'all that Blue did..
Yet..
No one remembers'him... You call that GreatestOfAllTime?
Somebody shank meh,plz.

[doki_]

bronx your correct in your stement except that blue did not create all the combos tat players use today
and bronx i remember your character. now blue or blueing i was there when he started aswell not as his friend or ally but i was there when he started and not many know that people just dont like my play style and blah blah blah. he did develop certain tactics and a few combos and was literally a no lifer =D.



now doki is just trolling about beign gawd in the game he says he is the god of ws. so ignore him/her.

woob and bravers. now woob besides his cybering with random girls and guys on ws he was known in pvp for his rank and lvl and his fighting till he self destructed and became a pvp troll.

now bravers is a hybrid. a decent pvp had multiple classes.. but was a type of troll.

swagg people know your name from your accs and them being banned but mainly from the duo of sorts of swagg and frowsty your fights your team ups and so forth.

deo is a bish and needs to get stabbed in the back and is a bish >_> hes not the only one who has done a 9v1 and i did it without a frakken ele! =O.

this thread is only getting off topic cause of doki and his trolling, the list of bronx is the most accurate list to date but is not THE final list since people can make their own opinionated list but his is the most correct. and there in lies the debate since the pros cannot come back and defend their appointed titles and people debate their standings. his list and mine come from being their in th beginning watching the true pros start their growth and we size them up with the new players and the new players fall short which is why the old names are staying up on the lists. not because of favoritism suldo was a ****** and woob was a troll ******. and others and so forth blah blah blah. they got their pro titles because they earned it.


star i dont exactly know or rememebr you so help me on that part.

feel free to agree disagree comment or address anything in my post

Hey,Mvffiny. How was playin' WS yesterday/today?
iSaw how you kept hittin' every girl in PvP to 1v1/Team and tryin' get convo goin' with'em.
Just to interact with'em. "Hey..<Insert girl's name>"
Havena,Shannon,DownLess.
Damn,all of'em didnt' say anythin' to you or even try'd to talk to you afterwards.
DENIED.

Doki Is a Troll?No.
You must have me confused with yourself.
iBelieve you kno' wha Stun/Puppet does to players'in PvP.
So,you Stun/Puppet purposely knowin' it'll get the player irk'd/mad. - That is Trollin'.
"But its a skill." Its'still trollin'. Sugarcoat it all you want.

"9v1" on trapper isn't possible in 5ive minutes.
Let alone have that much MP.
You were simply 1Hit KOin' Players.
If you're goin' brag at least say the facts/truths.

Woob isn't a Troll. He's far from it. He's build players.
Bravers isn't a Troll. Likes to 1v1 and very competitive,I'm glad you lost to her in PvP.

Swagg is mainly known for GuildLeadin'.

They cant' defend their titles but they can be mention'd.
How awesome.
iMight as well start throwin' out random names and make-up a scene.
Its'still valid,lol.

[doki_]

oh and doki you became known for being a "hype" troll you would rally the knewbies and "help" them and they spread like a parasite. your a walking chatroom troll. your pvp standings are minimal at best pervert is beatable when you dont just run everywhere to stall time. tamer if that was you or someone you were sharing with was good but still beatable by a variety of people. doki again was a novice who didnt want to class change cause you wanted to prey on the knew players with woodies.



Don't speak of my Characters and try give'em Reasons why they were made.
You have no history of my Characters other than simply "Doki."
Anythin' before that is just Questions.

Doki was made to be simply a player who was agressive and ready to PvP but it didn't happen,iWas way too mello' on Doki due to the friendliness of the game. Quiet,Help'd,PvP'd.
iCouldnt' decide what class to take.iReally want'd either Rouge or Warrior.
iDecided to stay Novice because iWant'd to be Unique. iGot it and it skyrocket'd.
iOnly help'd b'kuz iSaw how hard it was for NewComers.iAlso saw it a way to make some Mentis,Friends,Guildies,and Manner/Praises. iInspired players to make Novices x3

Tamer was inspired by FreeSpirit The BM. iWas Novice when her and iLvl'd.
She and group of players'became my mates from there after the Suldo AccSharin' Ban Incident(Lot my mates left when he got ban,they went to WKO). Tamer has only been me but there was two styles.
Tamer was first hated. 'Til iExposed myself who iTruly was.
From there then,iWas Loved. iEven Inspired Players to make BM'z.

Pervert was made after Tamer had gotten Prof. + BeastMaster's Beasts Glitch.
His name was funny. His purpose was b'kuz iSaw many Bishops,iWant'd to be DarkPriest then. At first a lot players'didn't kno' who iWas. iCould Woody+Priest Skills. DAYUM.
Lot players'thought iWas hidin'. Later on,players exposed be thru my Manner/Praise #,lol.
He was sololy made for STD PvP but later became somewha ULTM as you can see his SPR is 100+.Recently hit Prof Lvl He's also inspired players to make DP'z.

iAlso ask'd/encouraged Novices to make Pallys. Or Players well enough with Woody to.
Some do,some don't.
Some love it,some hate it. ~ Dependin' if its STD / ULTM / GuildBattle / CTF.

...Now the question to meh.
"What has MVFFINY done in WindSlayer Of OutSpark?"
iKno' nuffin' of you other than gettin' GnG'rs mad due to the FIRST Puppet/Stun.
Hell,you still use it nowadays. You haven't changed.
Thats'why iDon't bother withchu.
You have connections to GnG.
Other than that,you're like a newcomer.
Unknown and just startin' to realize who is who.

[doki_]

how come all the gng'ers pick other gng'ers cuz they was there 1st? lol
They're simply racist.
They're goin' choose their GnG-Race.
Thats'basically it.

[doki_]

Uh. no. Its because your taking this game like Mount Olympus.

Um,no.
iNever said iWas takin' it like that o.o
You just said iWas takin' it like that.
Why are you makin' things'up?

Hey,guys Star is takin' me as "God" instead of "GodofWS" - Which is actually possibly fact because of the evidence left behind.

[star4242]

bronx your correct in your stement except that blue did not create all the combos tat players use today
and bronx i remember your character. now blue or blueing i was there when he started aswell not as his friend or ally but i was there when he started and not many know that people just dont like my play style and blah blah blah. he did develop certain tactics and a few combos and was literally a no lifer =D.



now doki is just trolling about beign gawd in the game he says he is the god of ws. so ignore him/her.

woob and bravers. now woob besides his cybering with random girls and guys on ws he was known in pvp for his rank and lvl and his fighting till he self destructed and became a pvp troll.

now bravers is a hybrid. a decent pvp had multiple classes.. but was a type of troll.

swagg people know your name from your accs and them being banned but mainly from the duo of sorts of swagg and frowsty your fights your team ups and so forth.

deo is a bish and needs to get stabbed in the back and is a bish >_> hes not the only one who has done a 9v1 and i did it without a frakken ele! =O.

this thread is only getting off topic cause of doki and his trolling, the list of bronx is the most accurate list to date but is not THE final list since people can make their own opinionated list but his is the most correct. and there in lies the debate since the pros cannot come back and defend their appointed titles and people debate their standings. his list and mine come from being their in th beginning watching the true pros start their growth and we size them up with the new players and the new players fall short which is why the old names are staying up on the lists. not because of favoritism suldo was a ****** and woob was a troll ******. and others and so forth blah blah blah. they got their pro titles because they earned it.

oh and doki you became known for being a "hype" troll you would rally the knewbies and "help" them and they spread like a parasite. your a walking chatroom troll. your pvp standings are minimal at best pervert is beatable when you dont just run everywhere to stall time. tamer if that was you or someone you were sharing with was good but still beatable by a variety of people. doki again was a novice who didnt want to class change cause you wanted to prey on the knew players with woodies.

star i dont exactly know or rememebr you so help me on that part.

feel free to agree disagree comment or address anything in my post

Meh, ill stop "bothering' doki about his fake title. Never were a god, never will be.

And the char i use for the time being is TrapperStar.

[star4242]

Um,no.
iNever said iWas takin' it like that o.o
You just said iWas takin' it like that.
Why are you makin' things'up?

Hey,guys Star is takin' me as "God" instead of "GodofWS" - Which is actually possibly fact because of the evidence left behind.

Oh God, Shut up! You didn't made this game did you? I know you didn't. Like anyone's gonna bow down to you. Pfft. i won't.

[star4242]

Hey,Mvffiny. How was playin' WS yesterday/today?
iSaw how you kept hittin' every girl in PvP to 1v1/Team and tryin' get convo goin' with'em.
Just to interact with'em. "Hey..<Insert girl's name>"
Havena,Shannon,DownLess.
Damn,all of'em didnt' say anythin' to you or even try'd to talk to you afterwards.
DENIED.



lol, Tell me, Is this a dating game or "Windslayer"?
Those girls had a right to get hit because they were in the pvp room.




Doki Is a Troll?No.
You must have me confused with yourself.
iBelieve you kno' wha Stun/Puppet does to players'in PvP.
So,you Stun/Puppet purposely knowin' it'll get the player irk'd/mad. - That is Trollin'



Pfft. Like he needs to sugarcoat what you put your spit on. >_> Instead of telling players what the real skill is used for, you tell the them to Completely ignore the skill, just to make your life in the game easier. You can go ahead and sugarcoat that if you'd like. I bet that would disrupt your list. Its a skill, so its a skill. I don't really care how annoyed you are with it, but that's the way it is.

[doki_]

lol, Tell me, Is this a dating game or "Windslayer"?
Those girls had a right to get hit because they were in the pvp room.



Pfft. Like he needs to sugarcoat what you put your spit on. >_> Instead of telling players what the real skill is used for, you tell the them to Completely ignore the skill, just to make your life in the game easier. You can go ahead and sugarcoat that if you'd like. I bet that would disrupt your list. Its a skill, so its a skill. I don't really care how annoyed you are with it, but that's the way it is.
It depends'on how you see it. iSee it as neither.
You clearly didn't read it correctly. His purpose to "Hit"(physical) on them was to make'em talk. only Shannon debated with him 'bout SpamGrab(or somethin' along dat lines) and he got mad and start'd to target her then she didn't say anythin' back to him.

.. ? Wha are you talkin' 'bout? Did you just put yourself and meh in some imaginary situation again while makin' somethin' up again?
Sigh,Star. Thats'the 3rd-4th time you've told a lie off/'bout meh.
Is it really necessary to lie 'bout meh? If you're goin' to act like Mvffiny with some made-up stuff that only makes sense to you + ??-??.

[Makes note : Star likes to make up stuff off Doki]

[doki_]

Oh God, Shut up! You didn't made this game did you? I know you didn't. Like anyone's gonna bow down to you. Pfft. i won't.

There you go usin' the word "God" in ReaLyfe Term.
I'm startin' to think if you're the one takin' this serious now. Which wouldn't be the first time.
iNever said iMade the Game.
iHelp players'make it easier playin' or so. Yay~

Bow Down?Why would iAsk you to bow down to meh?
I'd rather make you Kneel. Which has already been down countless time.
PvP-Mode FTW :o

[bronx90]

List :

Novice : Doki
BeastMaster : Tamer.,Tg
Sniper : ???
Elementalist : Bravers,Woob.
Summoner : ???
Trapper : Frowsty,NeoShadow
Assassin : ???
Shaolin : ???
Counter : Suldo,Smokey
DarkPriest : Funky!,Pervert
Bishop : ???
Paladin : ???
Zerker : ???
OverAll : Swagg,Woob,Doki,Bravers,Magics.

There's your list. The list has "???" because there isn't any players there to this day that are still talk'd 'bout in that certain class. ~ around me at least.
What "BIG IMPACT" they made that you add'd.
Omg,do you remember "<insert name>?"
Yeah,that list is true not a joke.
..................................
Thats'all that Blue did..
Yet..
No one remembers'him... You call that GreatestOfAllTime?
Somebody shank meh,plz.

...Anyone agree with this. Feel free to agree or make a critique suggestion along with a modified adjustment.

Personally,it's his opinion to put his say on who's the greatest. Is it the most accurate? No.

Let's not forget the Three newly added categories to the list
Greatest Noob of all Time
Candidates: Baby & Toxicara
Greatest Guild of all Time
Candidates: To be honest this isn't my expertise so please make valid suggestions
Greatest Novice Guild of all Time
Candidates: Orgins

Greatest Noob of all Time
Reasons as to why Baby is a candidate?
1. Took the current era (Glitch era) to use, and made a combo that shouldn't be created if the glitch era's tweaks were born. If you saw the combo, there's no question nor debate but a when.When will the combo be ban?
2. Combo guarantees her easy wins..no a absolute win

Now i took the time to go in myself and study this combo. I was caught.
Her usual routine during combo session
1.Stun/Strike (4)/ Puppet
2.Positions you and herself to any of the corners in the arena
3.In the meantime,stun's cool-down is over while puppet's is nearing its end
4.She (D) Strikes with your back turn towards her putting you in a blind position and unable to counter unless your timing is perfect..which i accomplish
5.Usually if you fail,you'll once again become loop in the same routine over and over until you lose
6.If she fails she'll hide and bomb unless you're absolute of where's she hiding (i placed a hidden camera to find her position)

All in all, she's a desperate noob if she fails on more than one occasion and results to rant tactics.

Definition of a Noob: Originated from the term newb which is a new comer but is often use as a derogatory name with a purpose

She serves her purpose countless times and deliver w/o fail to be known otherwise which is why she's a candidate on my list.

Reasons as to why Toxicara is a candidate?
1. Compulsive and slightly disturbing ranter
2. What's slightly disturbing amps up to pure disturbance and his medical conditions should come into question..that's the case if he loses 3-4 times
3. During these phases,desperate tactics will take place

Side Note: If there's any individual that has a disorder,this game is not for you simply because it's competitive and a simple loss could effect your health..in reference to Toxicara.

This is the least-common category that shouldn't deserves the least bit of seriousness..but those are my reasons for even making a list such as this..and most likely they're the most accurate

No one should play this game for the sheer purpose of degrading and ranting which is exactly what these two individuals do and which is exactly why...they are noobs.

Is this personal?
No..a critique opinion

Greatest Novice Guild of all Time
Reasons as to why Origins is the greatest?
There's is no specific reason other than a bias opinion. I know these individuals well and it was a guild that wasn't about winning or losing,gaining power,etc. It was a classic case of bond and protecting one another from anyone.

That is all

[doki_]

...Anyone agree with this. Feel free to agree or make a critique suggestion along with a modified adjustment.

Personally,it's his opinion to put his say on who's the greatest. Is it the most accurate? No.

Let's not forget the Three newly added categories to the list
Greatest Noob of all Time
Candidates: Baby & Toxicara
Greatest Guild of all Time
Candidates: To be honest this isn't my expertise so please make valid suggestions
Greatest Novice Guild of all Time
Candidates: Orgins

Greatest Noob of all Time
Reasons as to why Baby is a candidate?
1. Took the current era (Glitch era) to use, and made a combo that shouldn't be created if the glitch era's tweaks were born. If you saw the combo, there's no question nor debate but a when.When will the combo be ban?
2. Combo guarantees her easy wins..no a absolute win

Now i took the time to go in myself and study this combo. I was caught.
Her usual routine during combo session
1.Stun/Strike (4)/ Puppet
2.Positions you and herself to any of the corners in the arena
3.In the meantime,stun's cool-down is over while puppet's is nearing its end
4.She (D) Strikes with your back turn towards her putting you in a blind position and unable to counter unless your timing is perfect..which i accomplish
5.Usually if you fail,you'll once again become loop in the same routine over and over until you lose
6.If she fails she'll hide and bomb unless you're absolute of where's she hiding (i placed a hidden camera to find her position)

All in all, she's a desperate noob if she fails on more than one occasion and results to rant tactics.

Definition of a Noob: Originated from the term newb which is a new comer but is often use as a derogatory name with a purpose

She serves her purpose countless times and deliver w/o fail to be known otherwise which is why she's a candidate on my list.

Reasons as to why Toxicara is a candidate?
1. Compulsive and slightly disturbing ranter
2. What's slightly disturbing amps up to pure disturbance and his medical conditions should come into question..that's the case if he loses 3-4 times
3. During these phases,desperate tactics will take place

Side Note: If there's any individual that has a disorder,this game is not for you simply because it's competitive and a simple loss could effect your health..in reference to Toxicara.

This is the least-common category that shouldn't deserves the least bit of seriousness..but those are my reasons for even making a list such as this..and most likely they're the most accurate

No one should play this game for the sheer purpose of degrading and ranting which is exactly what these two individuals do and which is exactly why...they are noobs.

Is this personal?
No..a critique opinion

Greatest Novice Guild of all Time
Reasons as to why Origins is the greatest?
There's is no specific reason other than a bias opinion. I know these individuals well and it was a guild that wasn't about winning or losing,gaining power,etc. It was a classic case of bond and protecting one another from anyone.

That is all

Origins had a lot players who were Beginnin' Novices of NovicePvP.
Stick_Em(Highest PvP Rank Novice),Doki,Stellar,Inky,Death,Justin.

There were a lot of Novice Guilds.
iOnly remember mainly Ice_Raiders(?) with Taco,Final(Before he changed),Cen(Before he changed).
Rawr swarm'd NovicePvP,Lol.....Then up to Rawr2.

[star4242]

Mvffiny && star are both LAMES

Star spams the forums doesnt really play the game.

Mvffiny likes to go Muff Diving = Ewww, && is Worst Trapper to ever play, becuz he only can fight while using Stun,Puppet,Clouds in 1v1 and 5-10 Bombs per 1v1

As for Woob, Swagg, bravers and Doki

Woob was known for cybering alot of girls. && he was still one of the best in Pvp. His High rank and skill really showed it being the 2rd Ele with Genius 9 before he got banned without the need to play Dirty like Mvffiny

Swagg was Woobs right hand man && also another good Pvp'er. but not really known so much because of his low ranks. Swagg was more known for Controlling Winning Guilds(2) and good Pvp'ers. While having a team of players backing him up.

Bravers well shes a Troll Lol

Doki known for helping newcomers. Doing task for them that no one less would and getting high manner the right way && not paying for it. Doki was known for being a good novice cuz at one time his Novice was way higher then any other novice being Lv69. Theres a few Novice better then him, i doubt he cares considered hes GawdofWS. Players will follow Doki untill the end of windslayer
I lol'd at your reply. I do Play Windslayer. Just not every day. :P Calling me lame won't make you cool my friend. :D

[dems8]

Lol gotta say i deserve at least to be on top ten list for summs, you know i can do my thang with those fairies~

[deoxys114]

deo is a bish and needs to get stabbed in the back and is a bish >_> hes not the only one who has done a 9v1 and i did it without a frakken ele! =O.

Lol. (10 char)

[Simmy]

Calling me lame won't make you cool my friend. :D

He's considered cool in my books now =O!


Thank you for mentioning yourself. :)

And I never mentioned any name...
So your remark at me was so fail. :)

[longhairdontcare1]

sim and star how long yall been fourm beefn? lol

[star4242]

He's considered cool in my books now =O!



And I never mentioned any name...
So your remark at me was so fail. :)

Lol. I know you didn't. You specified the "idiots" as those who posted above your post , so i figured that i should add you too. :)

[gutoku]

this got off topic

[star4242]

Threads like these always goes off topic as soon as they see someone then don't like on their "lists".

[fojib270]

Heres my list I know a lot of people are gonna hate but i don't care xD
Also i know i didn't spell everyones name right, because i couldn't remember their exact name so these are just nicknames they went by and if I left out any classes its because nobody truly stood out or I just couldn't remember them.

Greatest Elementalist- Kandori
Lol is this even a contest? He's won just about every contest and tournament he has competed in. Top level, top pvp rank, leader of the first guild in windslayer. Truly one of the best players and didn't play in GnG

Greatest Summoner- Fabbio
I didn't really get to know too many summoners but Fabbio always stood out. He stood out as being the best mage in GnG and kept up his reputation by competing against top guilds and always put up big numbers.

Greatest Beastmaster- ChoasArcher
The one person i could never win against in a 1vs1 no matter how hard I tried he was always 1 step ahead of me. He proved how great of an archer he was by competing in my tournament, making it further then Tamer, Tg, and Goat in the archer category.

Greatest Bishop- (-May-)
Kindest person in Windslayer, combined with awesome pvp skill this decision was a no-brainer. She never has a negative thing to say to anyone and will always protect you in pvp providing you with heals at the right time.

Greatest Darkpriest- Funky
Great support/fighter. I didn't get to play with him much but in the matches we played it was easily noticeable how skilled he was

Greatest Trapper- Mvffiny and Frow
I cant put just one person here because their skill seemed so near each others it was ridiculous. From what i remember Mvfinny won my tournament and Frow won the rouge tournament so if I had to guess i would say the best trapper was the one who was having the better day.

Greatest Berserker- Sniperjoe and Shadowlink
Sniperjoe was always one step ahead of me winning our fights by inches everytime. Since he only played GnG im gonna have to put Shadowlink on here too. Shadowlinks probably the one berserker I dread fighting. He is the one person who makes me wish i didn't stop playing windslayer just so I could give him some good competition.

Greatest Shaolin- Eddo
The only person who gave Kandori a run for his money in pvp rank and level. He was an important contribution to Royalz, seeing how everytime he lagged out was the only time we ever lost.

Greatest All Around Pvper- Blue and Zero
Blue in my opinion was top 3 pvper in every class he played in. If he would have continued to play after GnG he would have been the best Windslayer pvper of all time. But since he quit somebody had to take his place and Zero did a perfect job of that. Most of you know him as Staffofzero, Daggerofzero, and so many others xD. He placed top in many tournaments using whatever character he was in the mood for. You won't find a single person who can master as many classes as Zero has so he's defiantly on this list as Greatest All Around Pvper.

Oh yea one more thing if you wanna check out my tournament video where a ton of pvp pros played in check it out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMUTTRkjOP4

[doki_]

Notice how Mvffiny isn't respondin' to anythin'.
He knows'its truu.
iKill'd his character in a single swift.

This isn't even off-topic.
Its'just Star + simmy goin' at it as usual.
Star just can't seem to simply ignore simmy's iNEEDATTENTION posts.

[doki_]

Heres my list I know a lot of people are gonna hate but i don't care xD
Also i know i didn't spell everyones name right, because i couldn't remember their exact name so these are just nicknames they went by and if I left out any classes its because nobody truly stood out or I just couldn't remember them.

Greatest Elementalist- Kandori
Lol is this even a contest? He's won just about every contest and tournament he has competed in. Top level, top pvp rank, leader of the first guild in windslayer. Truly one of the best players and didn't play in GnG

Greatest Summoner- Fabbio
I didn't really get to know too many summoners but Fabbio always stood out. He stood out as being the best mage in GnG and kept up his reputation by competing against top guilds and always put up big numbers.

Greatest Beastmaster- ChoasArcher
The one person i could never win against in a 1vs1 no matter how hard I tried he was always 1 step ahead of me. He proved how great of an archer he was by competing in my tournament, making it further then Tamer, Tg, and Goat in the archer category.

Greatest Bishop- (-May-)
Kindest person in Windslayer, combined with awesome pvp skill this decision was a no-brainer. She never has a negative thing to say to anyone and will always protect you in pvp providing you with heals at the right time.

Greatest Darkpriest- Funky
Great support/fighter. I didn't get to play with him much but in the matches we played it was easily noticeable how skilled he was

Greatest Trapper- Mvffiny and Frow
I cant put just one person here because their skill seemed so near each others it was ridiculous. From what i remember Mvfinny won my tournament and Frow won the rouge tournament so if I had to guess i would say the best trapper was the one who was having the better day.

Greatest Berserker- Daggerjoe and Shadowlink
Daggerjoe was always one step ahead of me winning our fights by inches everytime. Since he only played GnG im gonna have to put Shadowlink on here too. Shadowlinks probably the one berserker I dread fighting. He is the one person who makes me wish i didn't stop playing windslayer just so I could give him some good competition.

Greatest Shaolin- Eddo
The only person who gave Kandori a run for his money in pvp rank and level. He was an important contribution to Royalz, seeing how everytime he lagged out was the only time we ever lost.

Greatest All Around Pvper- Blue and Zero
Blue in my opinion was top 3 pvper in every class he played in. If he would have continued to play after GnG he would have been the best Windslayer pvper of all time. But since he quit somebody had to take his place and Zero did a perfect job of that. Most of you know him as Staffofzero, Daggerofzero, and so many others xD. He placed top in many tournaments using whatever character he was in the mood for. You won't find a single person who can master as many classes as Zero has so he's defiantly on this list as Greatest All Around Pvper.

Oh yea one more thing if you wanna check out my tournament video where a ton of pvp pros played in check it out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMUTTRkjOP4
Wha bias list. Fail Guild Royalz for For Guild Royalz. GnG for GnG.
Typical List.

Ele : Kandori lost that Mage Tournament. and he did NOT make the First Guild of WS. Woob > Kandori.

Summoner : Meh.[Shrugs]

BeastMaster : What tournament was this..? BM-Styled or Archer-Styled because you just named 3 other BMs along side of his.Archer-Style,I'd lose at. BM-Styled,iTame the competition.

Bishoar : Ew. May supports glitchin' in GuildBattles and has herself "PvPBuddies" with BabyPoPs. So,ew.

Trapper : Frowsty. Mvffiny isn't even good begin with.

Zerker : Not interest'd in Spam mainly let alone with no Woody Skill at all.

Shaolin : Qitarah..aka...Queen ish better. Eddo scared of her =b

Great All Round PvP'r : Blue ? Nah.
Zero is good at Pally,Ele,Trapper,Sin,Zerker,Shao,Jobb'rWoodyPvP(N OT NovicePvP).
He has no Priest type characters kuz he sux at'em.

[fojib270]

Wha bias list. Fail Guild Royalz for For Guild Royalz. GnG for GnG.
Typical List.

Ele : Kandori lost that Mage Tournament. and he did NOT make the First Guild of WS. Woob > Kandori.

Summoner : Meh.[Shrugs]

BeastMaster : What tournament was this..? BM-Styled or Archer-Styled because you just named 3 other BMs along side of his.Archer-Style,I'd lose at. BM-Styled,iTame the competition.

Bishoar : Ew. May supports glitchin' in GuildBattles and has herself "PvPBuddies" with BabyPoPs. So,ew.

Trapper : Frowsty. Mvffiny isn't even good begin with.

Zerker : Not interest'd in Spam mainly let alone with no Woody Skill at all.

Shaolin : Qitarah..aka...Queen ish better. Eddo scared of her =b

Great All Round PvP'r : Blue ? Nah.
Zero is good at Pally,Ele,Trapper,Sin,Zerker,Shao,Jobb'rWoodyPvP(N OT NovicePvP).
He has no Priest type characters kuz he sux at'em.

Lol who are you to judge my list when you spent half your time as a novice? I remember my first time playing and beating you called me a skill using noob :/

Now as for Kandori he did in fact win the mage tourny and Kings (which i think was woobs guild) was a copy of Royalz even tried to copy their logo (and woob could never beat kandori in a 1vs1 and trust me a lot of people have seen him try)

You complain May (glitches) but you defend hacking? Sounds a little shady

Trapper thats your opinion

As for my tournament that you didn't even make it out of the first round against another bm heres the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMUTTRkjOP4

Zerker again you hate skills we get it

Shao I have no idea who queen is so how am i gonna put them down on the list?

Blue and zero need no defending because their rep and winnings are enough to make you look dumb

Again my list is opinionated don't troll it cause your not on it?

[doki_]

Oh yea one more thing if you wanna check out my tournament video where a ton of pvp pros played in check it out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMUTTRkjOP4
Justins Vs DarknessOfShadow. Good.
ChoasArcher Vs Goat.~ Choas chasin' Goat. Choas looks'like he's laggin'.
H-Tiger Vs DarknessOfShadow. ~Lol,Good.
Zero Vs Mvffiny. ~ Zero chasin' Mvffiny. Zero looks'like he's laggin'. Mvffiny has SC-Help,LOL.
Kandori Vs -Monster-. ~ 1-2-3 KO. Typical Ele Fight.
DarknessOfShadow Vs Mvffiny. DarkOfShadow just chasin' Mvffiny. Showin' evidence on how much Mvffiny Sux. Mvffiny wins due to hidin' mainly.
ChoasArcher Vs Kandori. ChoasArcher chasin' Kandori. Kandori wins due to the limited space for a BM.
Kandori Vs Mvffiny. 1-2-3 HitKO . Typical Ele~
Kandori Vs Mvffiny. Kandori chasin' Mvffiny,Mvffiny showin' how much he sux even at the end.
THE ROOM ITSELF :
Who is a "PRO" in there?
Zero,Swagg,Darkness,ChoasArcher,SilentSoldier.
Thats'it. iDon't see any others. The good thing 'bout the video is the musik.

Make New Tournament.
I'll even promo/promote it. So,it'll be THAT BIG.
iAm GawdOfWS afterall.

So,whachu say,Fojib?
Make a Tournament. Same Class Vs Same Class. STD,No Jewelery. Amakusa Top Middle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only class limited in Amakusa is Mages usin' Teleport. Other than that,its'all even out.

Don't put a limit on how many may join.
Just put a limit on how many the player can join with the same class which is one only..

[fojib270]

Justins Vs DarknessOfShadow. Good.
ChoasArcher Vs Goat.~ Choas chasin' Goat. Choas looks'like he's laggin'.
H-Tiger Vs DarknessOfShadow. ~Lol,Good.
Zero Vs Mvffiny. ~ Zero chasin' Mvffiny. Zero looks'like he's laggin'. Mvffiny has SC-Help,LOL.
Kandori Vs -Monster-. ~ 1-2-3 KO. Typical Ele Fight.
DarknessOfShadow Vs Mvffiny. DarkOfShadow just chasin' Mvffiny. Showin' evidence on how much Mvffiny Sux. Mvffiny wins due to hidin' mainly.
ChoasArcher Vs Kandori. ChoasArcher chasin' Kandori. Kandori wins due to the limited space for a BM.
Kandori Vs Mvffiny. 1-2-3 HitKO . Typical Ele~
Kandori Vs Mvffiny. Kandori chasin' Mvffiny,Mvffiny showin' how much he sux even at the end.
THE ROOM ITSELF :
Who is a "PRO" in there?
Zero,Swagg,Darkness,ChoasArcher,SilentSoldier.
Thats'it. iDon't see any others. The good thing 'bout the video is the musik.

Make New Tournament.
I'll even promo/promote it. So,it'll be THAT BIG.
iAm GawdOfWS afterall.

So,whachu say,Fojib?
Make a Tournament. Same Class Vs Same Class. STD,No Jewelery. Amakusa Top Middle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only class limited in Amakusa is Mages usin' Teleport. Other than that,its'all even out.

Don't put a limit on how many may join.
Just put a limit on how many the player can join with the same class which is one only..

Eh everyone in the room saw Mvffinnys sc eq and non had any benefits on them cause it was illigal to have in my tourny.

As for a new tourny what would be the point? It seems like all the good players who are still around have horrible attitudes so no thx

[doki_]

Lol who are you to judge my list when you spent half your time as a novice? I remember my first time playing and beating you called me a skill using noob :/

Now as for Kandori he did in fact win the mage tourny and Kings (which i think was woobs guild) was a copy of Royalz even tried to copy their logo (and woob could never beat kandori in a 1vs1 and trust me a lot of people have seen him try)

You complain May (glitches) but you defend hacking? Sounds a little shady

Trapper thats your opinion

As for my tournament that you didn't even make it out of the first round against another bm heres the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMUTTRkjOP4

Zerker again you hate skills we get it

Shao I have no idea who queen is so how am i gonna put them down on the list?

Blue and zero need no defending because their rep and winnings are enough to make you look dumb

Again my list is opinionated don't troll it cause your not on it?
Half my time? iDon't even play NovicePvP anymoar unless you're speakin' of the past then..
iPlay'd NovicePvP from Feb '09 - June '09... STRAIGHT. Lv68 Novice!
From July '09 - March '10.. iHad Tamer + Doki. Lv52 Novice!
March '10 - Now .. Tamer + Pervert.

iDon't remember the first time we play'd ea' other but it must've been Historic for you to go against THE GREAT ONE. ~ Please remind me of our 1st encounter.

No,iDid NOT complain 'bout May glitchin'. iStated SHE SUPPORTS Glitchin'. That doesn't mean SHE Glitches. SHE = May. i = Doki. ~ Is that clear ?
I'm not shady. iSay it loud and clear.
Hackin' isn't bad. Its'clearly benefitical for the player and the player itself. Negative is only in ULTM mainly. STD varies on class,skill,lvl.
Whereas SOME NOT ALL Glitchin' is benefitical for the player while effectin' others in negative state of manner.

Trapper - Agree.

Zerker : No,iHate Offensive Spam. Quote me on that,please.

Shao : iMay be GawdOfWS but iDon'tKno' all the answers to your questions,mate.

Blue's Rep : So.. How many people kno' him and/or came in contact with him?
Zero's Rep : Wait,iAttack'd his rep? Where. Please state where iDid so.

Opinion,yes. It is also my opinion that it was part-bias.
I'm not trollin'. Why are you being so defensive and yet tryin' to attack me?
You merely said you don't care if someone else doesn't agree. Yet,here you are attackin' a person who doesn't agree with your list for the person thinks its part-bias.

Trust meh,iGot no reason to "Troll" you.
If iAm,then thats'your opinion just as this list.

iHope you consider of makin' a Tournament. It shall be Big.
BIG TOURNAMENT. Hehe.

Edit :
Ele : Woob. Read the first post. No one remembers Kandori unless they came in contact with him. Woob is known and still spoken 'bout and some players never came in contact with him,lol..

PvP Tournament Video : Where does it sho' iWas there as Evidence? iTamed Choas,Goat. Who did iLose to?

[doki_]

Eh everyone in the room saw Mvffinnys sc eq and non had any benefits on them cause it was illigal to have in my tourny.

As for a new tourny what would be the point? It seems like all the good players who are still around have horrible attitudes so no thx

FireDash doesn't make you go faster or/and longer-distance?

"Good Players?" You just called them Pros in your previous post.
Or are you speakin' of another group of players?

You're just being bias once again.
Y'kno' if it were to happen. You'd hafto record it and it would sho' evidence of players at the Top Of Their Job/Class like myself.
Whom you don't like. You wouldn't wanna benefit players'you don't like.
Therefore,you deny their ability.
Tsk,Tsk. Don't worry.
I've come across players like that many times and you aren't the last one.

If my words aren't true.
Whats'stoppin' you? If ReaLyfe is the problem. iUnderstand. I'll just quote/state this for you :
"Fojib won't do the tourmanent due ReaLyfe stuff but before it he didn't state that he stated it was kuz good players have bad attitudes."

[fojib270]

Half my time? iDon't even play NovicePvP anymoar unless you're speakin' of the past then..
iPlay'd NovicePvP from Feb '09 - June '09... STRAIGHT. Lv68 Novice!
From July '09 - March '10.. iHad Tamer + Doki. Lv52 Novice!
March '10 - Now .. Tamer + Pervert.

iDon't remember the first time we play'd ea' other but it must've been Historic for you to go against THE GREAT ONE. ~ Please remind me of our 1st encounter.

No,iDid NOT complain 'bout May glitchin'. iStated SHE SUPPORTS Glitchin'. That doesn't mean SHE Glitches. SHE = May. i = Doki. ~ Is that clear ?
I'm not shady. iSay it loud and clear.
Hackin' isn't bad. Its'clearly benefitical for the player and the player itself. Negative is only in ULTM mainly. STD varies on class,skill,lvl.
Whereas SOME NOT ALL Glitchin' is benefitical for the player while effectin' others in negative state of manner.

Trapper - Agree.

Zerker : No,iHate Offensive Spam. Quote me on that,please.

Shao : iMay be GawdOfWS but iDon'tKno' all the answers to your questions,mate.

Blue's Rep : So.. How many people kno' him and/or came in contact with him?
Zero's Rep : Wait,iAttack'd his rep? Where. Please state where iDid so.

Opinion,yes. It is also my opinion that it was part-bias.
I'm not trollin'. Why are you being so defensive and yet tryin' to attack me?
You merely said you don't care if someone else doesn't agree. Yet,here you are attackin' a person who doesn't agree with your list for the person thinks its part-bias.

Trust meh,iGot no reason to "Troll" you.
If iAm,then thats'your opinion just as this list.

iHope you consider of makin' a Tournament. It shall be Big.
BIG TOURNAMENT. Hehe.

Edit :
Ele : Woob. Read the first post. No one remembers Kandori unless they came in contact with him. Woob is known and still spoken 'bout and some players never came in contact with him,lol..

Theres a difference between disagreeing with my list and attacking the players. And who cares if it is biased or not its the people i played with the most so i know their true potential.

Oh yea and I remember pretty much everyone I fight especially the coc.ky ones.

http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=339097
I got one of the names wrong it was alex_bm not tg but you did end up losing to chaos and I didnt put first round in the tournament due to limited space

If your done you can just send me a pm or see me on game no point in getting this thread locked

[doki_]

Theres a difference between disagreeing with my list and attacking the players. And who cares if it is biased or not its the people i played with the most so i know their true potential.

Oh yea and I remember pretty much everyone I fight especially the ****y ones.
You speak of TRUE POTENTIAL?
You didn't even bother respond to the true potential of the post.

You've been Tamed.


Bye. I'm off to the Movies. [Goes to iTouch now~]
Oh,Btw. Here you go
http://store.outspark.com/windslayer/item/4359

An Ex-Royalz Member gave me that link. ~<3

[slappygoodtimes]

I love how you guys do your little butt grabbing threads.

[bronx90]

Heres my list I know a lot of people are gonna hate but i don't care xD
Also i know i didn't spell everyones name right, because i couldn't remember their exact name so these are just nicknames they went by and if I left out any classes its because nobody truly stood out or I just couldn't remember them.

Greatest Elementalist- Kandori
Lol is this even a contest? He's won just about every contest and tournament he has competed in. Top level, top pvp rank, leader of the first guild in windslayer. Truly one of the best players and didn't play in GnG

Greatest Summoner- Fabbio
I didn't really get to know too many summoners but Fabbio always stood out. He stood out as being the best mage in GnG and kept up his reputation by competing against top guilds and always put up big numbers.

Greatest Beastmaster- ChoasArcher
The one person i could never win against in a 1vs1 no matter how hard I tried he was always 1 step ahead of me. He proved how great of an archer he was by competing in my tournament, making it further then Tamer, Tg, and Goat in the archer category.

Greatest Bishop- (-May-)
Kindest person in Windslayer, combined with awesome pvp skill this decision was a no-brainer. She never has a negative thing to say to anyone and will always protect you in pvp providing you with heals at the right time.

Greatest Darkpriest- Funky
Great support/fighter. I didn't get to play with him much but in the matches we played it was easily noticeable how skilled he was

Greatest Trapper- Mvffiny and Frow
I cant put just one person here because their skill seemed so near each others it was ridiculous. From what i remember Mvfinny won my tournament and Frow won the rouge tournament so if I had to guess i would say the best trapper was the one who was having the better day.

Greatest Berserker- Daggerjoe and Shadowlink
Daggerjoe was always one step ahead of me winning our fights by inches everytime. Since he only played GnG im gonna have to put Shadowlink on here too. Shadowlinks probably the one berserker I dread fighting. He is the one person who makes me wish i didn't stop playing windslayer just so I could give him some good competition.

Greatest Shaolin- Eddo
The only person who gave Kandori a run for his money in pvp rank and level. He was an important contribution to Royalz, seeing how everytime he lagged out was the only time we ever lost.

Greatest All Around Pvper- Blue and Zero
Blue in my opinion was top 3 pvper in every class he played in. If he would have continued to play after GnG he would have been the best Windslayer pvper of all time. But since he quit somebody had to take his place and Zero did a perfect job of that. Most of you know him as Staffofzero, Daggerofzero, and so many others xD. He placed top in many tournaments using whatever character he was in the mood for. You won't find a single person who can master as many classes as Zero has so he's defiantly on this list as Greatest All Around Pvper.

Oh yea one more thing if you wanna check out my tournament video where a ton of pvp pros played in check it out here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMUTTRkjOP4

Greatest Elementalist
Agree..Overall Package

Greatest Summoner
No Disagreement

Greatest BeastMaster
No..Zaraki

Greatest Bishop
Agree..Completely

Greatest Trapper
Mvffiny epitomes Trapper while Frow is more of an all around fighter that happens to have more than one class.By default combine with the fact that mvffiny plays a dirty game yet a smart battle,his spot is deserving.The video of the tournament you provided us with is a perfect example.

Greatest Berserker
The only daggerjoe i know of is the assassin.Another thing is shadowlink is one of frow's other characters that he has a variety of. In my opinion, the greatest has to be fangdang from a critique standpoint.My personal opinion,i'll say jacked. Fangdang

Greatest Shaolin
Agree..100%

Greatest Pvper of all time

Blue..My previous post explains why

The four classes you didn't mention

Greatest Assassin
LoS

Greatest Counter
Suldo

Greatest Paladin
Phoking

Greatest Sniper
Profilic

Now here's the thing

Three important factors that my list is created from
1. Melee Skills
2. Impact
3. Influential
Optional: Longevity

With those three i mention despite if there's others that have a slight advantage in combat,makes my list the most accurate.I understand that there's personal opinions in everyone's list but from what I have read,I can go out of my way and say there are a few individuals that do excel in melee.However, they lack impact and influence.

[bronx90]

Fojib

Create a tournament....as soon as possible

[fojib270]

Fojib

Create a tournament....as soon as possible

Dunno why u guys want me to make a tournament xD

But sure as soon as Doki gets rid of all that crap he said about my friends and guildies I would be glad to make one. Unless his pride is just too much then whatever its his choice I have no problem not making a new tournament.

Also I got SniperJoe and Daggerjoe mixed up. I think I read his name either in yours or somebody else's list and got them mixed up.

[doki_]

Dunno why u guys want me to make a tournament xD

But sure as soon as Doki gets rid of all that crap he said about my friends and guildies I would be glad to make one. Unless his pride is just too much then whatever its his choice I have no problem not making a new tournament.

Also I got SniperJoe and Daggerjoe mixed up. I think I read his name either in yours or somebody else's list and got them mixed up.
iWantYou make Tournament b'kuz you're able record.
Thats'mainly it and all.
Only Tournaments I've liked were Tiramisu's GuildBattle Tournaments.
and Rider's TeamPvP "Red Vs Bloo" in STD that iWon twice~

iWantYou make..
Tournament : ALL MATCHES ARE RECORDED IF POSSIBLE.
PvP Type : STD. One Vs One.
Area/Map : Amakusa.
Same Class Vs Same Class. Nuffin' mix'd.
Jewelery : NO.
Any-SparkCash-Related : NO
PvP Pots : NO
ReWard : iDon'tCare. I'll provide Gold only.
Give Credits : Fojib,Doki,and whomever else helps with the Tournament as well.
Negative Effect of Amakusa : Mage usin' Teleport ON/TOWARDS the bridge in the middle.
Rouge : No Stun,No Puppet.
GlitchHittin' will be a major conflict. I'm sayin' NO but some players may accidentally hit them.

I've made deals before to help WS is the past. I'm currently in one still.
So,helpin' iDon't mind. It'll be pretty big since I'll be promo/promotin' it.

iDon'tCare for erasin' it. iAlrdy Tamed you more ways than once.
So,what do you want meh to backspace? Say which posts.
I'll be backspacin'.
iWill merely say in my Post : "Doki made a deal with Fojib if he made a tournament. In return Doki will backspace everythin' in this reply to his post as he request'd in exchanged."
Or do you want THE WHOLE POST completely GONE?

You speak of Pride of Mine? Yeah,For WS. Quote me on that.

If you're goin' try take shots'at meh go ahead. iDon't mind.
Just can't wait for you say it InGame of WS.

[doki_]

Oh,iNoticed Fojib + Bronx didn't add "Novice Of All Time."
That just shows'you how bias they are (:
If they don't like you. They'll deny your history or anythin' good-related to you.
Reminds meh of Mvffiny but he at least bashes them like Frowsty,Swagg,Woob,and Doki.
3 GnG'rs doin' the basically the same thing.

Well,don't worry GnG'rs. They'll all well-known unlike 80% of your list. ~ Tamed.

[longhairdontcare1]

man i use 2 run thru all royalz kandori use 2 save them sayn "dont fight swagg he aint worth it" 10min later i own them ove course except funky i respected him as a dp still do everybody else ITS OVER and btw fojib kandori lost in the last mage tourny i was there he got caught wit a random blizz and cried and complained 2 rider that it shouldnt ove hit him can he plz get a re do *shout outs 2 digama 4 doin it* and fojib did i win ya last toury that u didnt record? i think i did

[hdking]

100% Best Of There Class

Elementist, Woob- Wins hands down, Kandori was nothing untill woob.&& i seen both Woob and Swagg whoop him

Summoner. Fabbio- Its not Trii because Trii Suked he ran around Spamming Meteor in TeamDeathMatch

Sniper. Woobzes- FYI Prolific suked there was another female Sniper that owned him he was only known for Lvling fast

BeastMaster. Zaraki.- Zaraki whooped everyone with no Beast

Assassin. ->King<- King was way to fast for anyone to keep up with his HIGH SPEED connection really won this over for him && he whooped Justin easy

Trapper. Maiev- For the sheer fact she Cheated the BombGrab she owns trappers would be lost and spamming without it

DarkPriest. Funky!- I remember like it was yesterday when Funky beat me 5 rounds in a Row

Bishop. ~Heal-A-Holic~- All Bishops stack heals, Group heal&Self heal = Lame Bishop if you really need all that HP Swagg on the other hand didnt

Counter. Pizza- Pizza is really unknown, you'd have to be Special to even get a Match with Pizza, Pizza use to PERFECT Suldo...you dont see that everyday

Shaolin. Fandango or Bagu- There was a Lv 33 Shaolin running around Beating everyone of all Classes

Berzerker. Jacked- His combo was unhuman, fearless and almost impossible to get out Alive. All the Zerkers you see today are Nothing compared to Jacked, when he came back he just suked tho Lol

Paladin. Silent_Solider01 aka ~Drifter~- Best Paladin ever getting Prof on a Pally isnt something everyone can do but he got hacked.

Novice. Stick_em- how do a Novice get Prof 7 Yeah he Owns

1st Class players that really stand out
-Korean- Hes a Monk that i seen Beat suldo alot
Mar(4 random numbers) Hes a Rogue that would Stun you and get like 7Hits then a Poison
FireFireFire Hes a Mage that really goes hard


~Smokey~ is one of the Best in the Whole game. The reason hes not on this List. He didnt get a chance to Fight the REAL pros the Players who made this Game what it is now....

[hdking]

man i use 2 run thru all royalz kandori use 2 save them sayn "dont fight swagg he aint worth it" 10min later i own them ove course except funky i respected him as a dp still do everybody else ITS OVER and btw fojib kandori lost in the last mage tourny i was there he got caught wit a random blizz and cried and complained 2 rider that it shouldnt ove hit him can he plz get a re do *shout outs 2 digama 4 doin it* and fojib did i win ya last toury that u didnt record? i think i did

Lol i couldnt remember his name. now i do ! ! Digama Spanked Kandoi in the Mage Master Tourney. Digama cought Kandori with a Blizzard he tele'd into Then Kandori cried to Ride about the match and got kicked out the Room Lol Brings Back Memories

[hdking]

BTW here go a few names of people yall thought was good but really wasnt.

Prolific. Trii. Yusuke. Fojib. (-May-).

[suldo]

100% Best Of There Class


Counter. Pizza- Pizza is really unknown, you'd have to be Special to even get a Match with Pizza, Pizza use to PERFECT Suldo...you dont see that everyday


Are you sure your not mistaking me from someone else?
because what i remember that pizza counter was not good at all in pvp. he was just good at leveling non-stop with Jnar crew.

[longhairdontcare1]

Lol i couldnt remember his name. now i do ! ! Digama Spanked Kandoi in the Mage Master Tourney. Digama cought Kandori with a Blizzard he tele'd into Then Kandori cried to Ride about the match and got kicked out the Room Lol Brings Back Memories

lol i swear that day was 2 wild everybody who people thought was gonna win lost *giggle*

[longhairdontcare1]

100% Best Of There Class

Elementist, Woob- Wins hands down, Kandori was nothing untill woob.&& i seen both Woob and Swagg whoop him

Summoner. Fabbio- Its not Trii because Trii Suked he ran around Spamming Meteor in TeamDeathMatch

Sniper. Woobzes- FYI Prolific suked there was another female Sniper that owned him he was only known for Lvling fast

BeastMaster. Zaraki.- Zaraki whooped everyone with no Beast

Assassin. ->King<- King was way to fast for anyone to keep up with his HIGH SPEED connection really won this over for him && he whooped Justin easy

Trapper. Maiev- For the sheer fact she Cheated the BombGrab she owns trappers would be lost and spamming without it

DarkPriest. Funky!- I remember like it was yesterday when Funky beat me 5 rounds in a Row

Bishop. ~Heal-A-Holic~- All Bishops stack heals, Group heal&Self heal = Lame Bishop if you really need all that HP Swagg on the other hand didnt

Counter. Pizza- Pizza is really unknown, you'd have to be Special to even get a Match with Pizza, Pizza use to PERFECT Suldo...you dont see that everyday

Shaolin. Fandango or Bagu- There was a Lv 33 Shaolin running around Beating everyone of all Classes

Berzerker. Jacked- His combo was unhuman, fearless and almost impossible to get out Alive. All the Zerkers you see today are Nothing compared to Jacked, when he came back he just suked tho Lol

Paladin. Silent_Solider01 aka ~Drifter~- Best Paladin ever getting Prof on a Pally isnt something everyone can do but he got hacked.

Novice. Stick_em- how do a Novice get Prof 7 Yeah he Owns

1st Class players that really stand out
-Korean- Hes a Monk that i seen Beat suldo alot
Mar(4 random numbers) Hes a Rogue that would Stun you and get like 7Hits then a Poison
FireFireFire Hes a Mage that really goes hard


~Smokey~ is one of the Best in the Whole game. The reason hes not on this List. He didnt get a chance to Fight the REAL pros the Players who made this Game what it is now....

aye i think im the only bishop 2 play that didnt spam heals vs any class 2 win

[kandori]

lol wow u kids are dumb..

[fojib270]

lol http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214083&page=3
I guess its your word over riders now xD

[longhairdontcare1]

as u can see monster woob diagma me or sky was in that toury all u did was found maybe 1st or second i said the last 1

[bronx90]

100% Best Of There Class

Elementist, Woob- Wins hands down, Kandori was nothing untill woob.&& i seen both Woob and Swagg whoop him

Summoner. Fabbio- Its not Trii because Trii Suked he ran around Spamming Meteor in TeamDeathMatch

Sniper. Woobzes- FYI Prolific suked there was another female Sniper that owned him he was only known for Lvling fast

BeastMaster. Zaraki.- Zaraki whooped everyone with no Beast

Assassin. ->King<- King was way to fast for anyone to keep up with his HIGH SPEED connection really won this over for him && he whooped Justin easy

Trapper. Maiev- For the sheer fact she Cheated the BombGrab she owns trappers would be lost and spamming without it

DarkPriest. Funky!- I remember like it was yesterday when Funky beat me 5 rounds in a Row

Bishop. ~Heal-A-Holic~- All Bishops stack heals, Group heal&Self heal = Lame Bishop if you really need all that HP Swagg on the other hand didnt

Counter. Pizza- Pizza is really unknown, you'd have to be Special to even get a Match with Pizza, Pizza use to PERFECT Suldo...you dont see that everyday

Shaolin. Fandango or Bagu- There was a Lv 33 Shaolin running around Beating everyone of all Classes

Berzerker. Jacked- His combo was unhuman, fearless and almost impossible to get out Alive. All the Zerkers you see today are Nothing compared to Jacked, when he came back he just suked tho Lol

Paladin. Silent_Solider01 aka ~Drifter~- Best Paladin ever getting Prof on a Pally isnt something everyone can do but he got hacked.

Novice. Stick_em- how do a Novice get Prof 7 Yeah he Owns

1st Class players that really stand out
-Korean- Hes a Monk that i seen Beat suldo alot
Mar(4 random numbers) Hes a Rogue that would Stun you and get like 7Hits then a Poison
FireFireFire Hes a Mage that really goes hard


~Smokey~ is one of the Best in the Whole game. The reason hes not on this List. He didnt get a chance to Fight the REAL pros the Players who made this Game what it is now....

Good List.

Elementalist
To quote you, you mention woob was the best hands down. Another person said the same thing. 4 people mention the same thing. The problem is i was on a hiatus during the time this woob guy was around so other than saying woob is the best,be elaborate and give me specifics.

Summoner
Fabbio..agree

Sniper
So Woobzes was better at melee even though i said it's not just about melee but impact and influence also (check the intro to this thread).Another thing is this name sounds familiar to an ele name you mention.You're probably woob or you're a woob fan.

Beastmaster
Agree

Assassin
LoS was a more important assassin than king in many ways

Trapper
Top 3 trappers of all time, she'll be in there no question but not the greatest.Mvffiny

Darkpriest
Agree

Bishop
The role of the bishop is to assist battle and heal the wounded. May did her job better than anyone else. Heal A Holic is swagg right? swagg also has a variety of other characters right? so lets just say he is better than may in terms of melee. But from what people are telling me, he's good and he's in the top when we talk about greatest pvper. He doesn't need to be mention in this particular category since he's from what people are saying, one of the great pvpers

Counter
Suldo..bigger impact..bigger influence..overall a better counter.Also, I've never heard of pizza

Shaolin
No..Eddo..

Berserker
I agree with you personally but from a analytical standpoint, it'll have to be fangdang

Paladin
Phoking

Novice
Personally, i'll say justin or sticks,but it's doki

Side Note

Doki because i've forgot to mention you on the novice list is nothing but a case of a long day.Nothing more

Overall my list is the more accurate so far,but your list is really good

[longhairdontcare1]

Good List.

Elementalist
To quote you, you mention woob was the best hands down. Another person said the same thing. 4 people mention the same thing. The problem is i was on a hiatus during the time this woob guy was around so other than saying woob is the best,be elaborate and give me specifics.

Summoner
Fabbio..agree

Sniper
So Woobzes was better at melee even though i said it's not just about melee but impact and influence also (check the intro to this thread).Another thing is this name sounds familiar to an ele name you mention.You're probably woob or you're a woob fan.

Beastmaster
Agree

Assassin
LoS was a more important assassin than king in many ways

Trapper
Top 3 trappers of all time, she'll be in there no question but not the greatest.Mvffiny

Darkpriest
Agree

Bishop
The role of the bishop is to assist battle and heal the wounded. May did her job better than anyone else. Heal A Holic is swagg right? swagg also has a variety of other characters right? so lets just say he is better than may in terms of melee. But from what people are telling me, he's good and he's in the top when we talk about greatest pvper. He doesn't need to be mention in this particular category since he's from what people are saying, one of the great pvpers

Counter
Suldo..bigger impact..bigger influence..overall a better counter.Also, I've never heard of pizza

Shaolin
No..Eddo..

Berserker
I agree with you personally but from a analytical standpoint, it'll have to be fangdang

Paladin
Phoking

Novice
Personally, i'll say justin or sticks,but it's doki

Side Note

Doki because i've forgot to mention you on the novice list is nothing but a case of a long day.Nothing more

Overall my list is the more accurate so far,but your list is really good

well bishop about may i disagree sumthin major if u kno may how i see and others kno her u wouldnt think she's good all she does is pick and choose people and follow friends 2 heal them or people that will save her in pvp she's more ove a friend healer idk her and we never talk but she never saved or tried 2 save me

Anima
Kid"Kuti" <--- not his real name i nick named him
saveline
sinderella
snoopy

no order just takin way better bishops

[doki_]

lol http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=214083&page=3
I guess its your word over riders now xD

There was more than one tournament for mage. ~ Which you can't deny.
The one iParticipated in was in Amakusa.
Some SC User had won it.

[doki_]

Good List.

Elementalist
To quote you, you mention woob was the best hands down. Another person said the same thing. 4 people mention the same thing. The problem is i was on a hiatus during the time this woob guy was around so other than saying woob is the best,be elaborate and give me specifics.

Summoner
Fabbio..agree

Sniper
So Woobzes was better at melee even though i said it's not just about melee but impact and influence also (check the intro to this thread).Another thing is this name sounds familiar to an ele name you mention.You're probably woob or you're a woob fan.

Beastmaster
Agree

Assassin
LoS was a more important assassin than king in many ways

Trapper
Top 3 trappers of all time, she'll be in there no question but not the greatest.Mvffiny

Darkpriest
Agree

Bishop
The role of the bishop is to assist battle and heal the wounded. May did her job better than anyone else. Heal A Holic is swagg right? swagg also has a variety of other characters right? so lets just say he is better than may in terms of melee. But from what people are telling me, he's good and he's in the top when we talk about greatest pvper. He doesn't need to be mention in this particular category since he's from what people are saying, one of the great pvpers

Counter
Suldo..bigger impact..bigger influence..overall a better counter.Also, I've never heard of pizza

Shaolin
No..Eddo..

Berserker
I agree with you personally but from a analytical standpoint, it'll have to be fangdang

Paladin
Phoking

Novice
Personally, i'll say justin or sticks,but it's doki

Side Note

Doki because i've forgot to mention you on the novice list is nothing but a case of a long day.Nothing more

Overall my list is the more accurate so far,but your list is really good
Wait.Waiiit.
He has to be Woob or Woob Fan?
***?

Weren't YOU the one that STATED this topic mainly,""WHO IS MORE IMPACTED IN THEIR CLASS?'
Woob is way moar impactful than Kandori.
Take a freakin' survey of WS. You'll see MORE players KNO' Woob.

You are lettin' your personal feelin' of friendship / campaign-ship of players and your hate/dislike of players get in the way.
You're being blind from the negative towards'the certain player and not givin' out the REAL TRUTH of their True Potential.
Players like you is why WindSlayer is dyin'.
You don't do anythin' to help AND you don't pass-on true history of WS.
I'm glad there are other players here to foretell other players' legacy and not just being bias like a GnG'r.

I'm disgust by players like you,Fojib,Mvffiny like to state that they're also from the same area as myself,GnG WindSlayer.
B'kuz I'm nuffin' like y'all. iDon't express myself to impress my fello' mates(in ur case ; ur GnG mates).

Y'all make GnG look like trash or represent it at least.
Take that logo/tag away from y'all. Before iRip it away and yourself.

[doki_]

well bishop about may i disagree sumthin major if u kno may how i see and others kno her u wouldnt think she's good all she does is pick and choose people and follow friends 2 heal them or people that will save her in pvp she's more ove a friend healer idk her and we never talk but she never saved or tried 2 save me

Anima
Kid"Kuti" <--- not his real name i nick named him
saveline
sinderella
snoopy

no order just takin way better bishops
It doesn't matter.
May isn't the best Bishoar.
However. She's more well-known and moar impact across WS.


Take myself as an example
"Doki Is The Most Well-Known Novice."
HOWEVER. He isn't the best NovicePvP'r. iConsider'd myself #5 Best of NovicePvP'r not anythin' lower/higher.

If this was 'bout Best Bishop. It is clearly Snoopy InMyOpinion.

The Thread is NOT 'bout who is better.
The Thread : WHO IS MADE MOAR OF AN IMPACT IN THEIR CLASS?

[kandori]

So Kandori isn't more impactful.. lol check the youtube vids. remember Royalz = number 1 guild. the only thing woob was known for is being annoying, harassing girls, losing to me way too many times to count, remaking random guilds with little to no success, creating the first Royalz clone guild (aka Kings) with same logo and etc. Other players named themselves after me and I don't mean woob/swagg either. Me I won the first official mage tourney. One of the highest players in the game WITH one of the highest pvp ranks (at the time). If being banned multiple times = more impactful then sure, woob would win that lol. The fact of the matter is if you did do a poll today and ask how many people know me or woob then woob would win because I already quit like a year now? And all the players worth talking to have quit also. Any of the old players that log on and see me will say I'm more known than woob lol. You need to wise up. Just because you didn't like me doesn't mean u can try to talk me down as if you don't know reality. And for proof of my "impact" go to the forum and search for 1 specific topic I created and look at how much attention it got. lol my impact is everywhere.

[kandori]

Fojib was the first person to start hosting tournaments which was sponsored by MY guild. Ever since then some of you or occasionally someone would try to do the same thing. Are u seriously that blind lol? My guild ran this game at one time and there's nobody that can deny that. Highest lvl players, Richest, first guild to have highest lvl pets. several top pvpers, Top of leaderboards, first party to win the "race to 45 event", we've done waaaaaaaay too much, above and beyond anyone else on this game.The fact that you're all STILL TO THIS DAY talking about me or hating me whenever I log on proves how much of an impact I still have lol. My pvp rank was attained over a year ago. and barely anyone has passed me STILL. Imagine if I never stopped lol

[longhairdontcare1]

Fojib was the first person to start hosting tournaments which was sponsored by MY guild. Ever since then some of you or occasionally someone would try to do the same thing. Are u seriously that blind lol? My guild ran this game at one time and there's nobody that can deny that. Highest lvl players, Richest, first guild to have highest lvl pets. several top pvpers, Top of leaderboards, first party to win the "race to 45 event", we've done waaaaaaaay too much, above and beyond anyone else on this game.The fact that you're all STILL TO THIS DAY talking about me or hating me whenever I log on proves how much of an impact I still have lol. My pvp rank was attained over a year ago. and barely anyone has passed me STILL. Imagine if I never stopped lol

HaHa i won 2 ove fojibs tournys and yall came online and said i suked btw who agree's 2 that,that swagg suks? and lol seems like all yall was good for was lvlin in different time zones leechin each other while buyn pets spammin ctf gratz for bein best new comin lvler's after yall wsg did it they was way bigger wit like 4-5 lvl 99's couple 90's and everybody else 80 so that impact was wilder and all royals got is oj *my nikka*

and another thing its not that hard 2 get ya rank spammin ctf and deathmatch on a ele

[longhairdontcare1]

It doesn't matter.
May isn't the best Bishoar.
However. She's more well-known and moar impact across WS.


Take myself as an example
"Doki Is The Most Well-Known Novice."
HOWEVER. He isn't the best NovicePvP'r. iConsider'd myself #5 Best of NovicePvP'r not anythin' lower/higher.

If this was 'bout Best Bishop. It is clearly Snoopy InMyOpinion.

The Thread is NOT 'bout who is better.
The Thread : WHO IS MADE MOAR OF AN IMPACT IN THEIR CLASS?

hmmmm quotes bronx

may cant Melee so give that to save?,chii has a better Impact?,anima is more Influential?

and yall 4got bout that 1 bishop yukee or w/e she was scary D:

[kandori]

HaHa i won 2 ove fojibs tournys and yall came online and said i suked btw who agree's 2 that,that swagg suks? and lol seems like all yall was good for was lvlin in different time zones leechin each other while buyn pets spammin ctf gratz for bein best new comin lvler's after yall wsg did it they was way bigger wit like 4-5 lvl 99's couple 90's and everybody else 80 so that impact was wilder and all royals got is oj *my nikka*

and another thing its not that hard 2 get ya rank spammin ctf and deathmatch on a ele

how could i spam it and still lvl the way i did? if it's so easy why after more than a year my rank is still considered high? I know for a fact you know that hacks do indeed make it easy to level, we did it without hacks lol and hardly anyone leeched. The race to 45 event proved we knew wat we were doing and yes you lost to us in that event also. We played when the game actually had more than 100 players lol.

[kandori]

HaHa i won 2 ove fojibs tournys and yall came online and said i suked btw who agree's 2 that,that swagg suks? and lol seems like all yall was good for was lvlin in different time zones leechin each other while buyn pets spammin ctf gratz for bein best new comin lvler's after yall wsg did it they was way bigger wit like 4-5 lvl 99's couple 90's and everybody else 80 so that impact was wilder and all royals got is oj *my nikka*

and another thing its not that hard 2 get ya rank spammin ctf and deathmatch on a ele

The fact that u say "different timezones" proves ur one of those people that has no idea what he's talking about. the only person that was in a way different timezone was OrangeSlayer. And swagg you ARE terrible. The only reason why u think ur good is because anyone worth pvping has quit or only logs on occasionally. you play continuously but still have the skill beneath most of the older players. You get excited when you kill me because it doesn't happen too often. if there was a pie chart that compared 2 players pvping each other and based if off wins/losses, your slice would be so small people would look at it and say "why don't they just put 100%" U should get your facts straight.

[kandori]

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228727 <---- Tournament sign up link

You definately entered the tournament (name number 13.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMUTTRkjOP4 <---- Link to footage of the tournament Semi finals and Higher

You definately were not seen anywhere in that video from the semi finals and higher.

And now... once again I made you look stupid, I guess nothing has changed huh?

P.S. notice that Tamer aka Doki also entered that tournament, (Name number 16) however he lost in his first match against ChaosArcher who is also a BM. now that it's all out there for people to get a better clue of the "pros" nowadays please refrain from posting anything about either of you being good at this game. When it came time for you guys to actually prove something to everyone you guys failed miserably. Most of the people that participated in that tournament Stopped playing and I Semi played back then. Neither of you are good nor were you ever good nor will you ever be good in my eyes.

Facts don't lie. Have a nice day.

[longhairdontcare1]

The fact that u say "different timezones" proves ur one of those people that has no idea what he's talking about. the only person that was in a way different timezone was OrangeSlayer. And swagg you ARE terrible. The only reason why u think ur good is because anyone worth pvping has quit or only logs on occasionally. you play continuously but still have the skill beneath most of the older players. You get excited when you kill me because it doesn't happen too often. if there was a pie chart that compared 2 players pvping each other and based if off wins/losses, your slice would be so small people would look at it and say "why don't they just put 100%" U should get your facts straight.

lol wut? who said i got happy when i beat u i sure dont remember getn happy and i dont like pie i rather have cake and u use 2 always turn down 1v1'in my ele said i wasnt worthy sounds like sumbody who scared 2 take a loss but its cool thats how most so called pro's are plus all u did back in the day was run run blizz or ice grab sounds like bravers nothin special about u lol

[longhairdontcare1]

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=228727 <---- Tournament sign up link

You definately entered the tournament (name number 13.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMUTTRkjOP4 <---- Link to footage of the tournament Semi finals and Higher

You definately were not seen anywhere in that video from the semi finals and higher.

And now... once again I made you look stupid, I guess nothing has changed huh?

P.S. notice that Tamer aka Doki also entered that tournament, (Name number 16) however he lost in his first match against ChaosArcher who is also a BM. now that it's all out there for people to get a better clue of the "pros" nowadays please refrain from posting anything about either of you being good at this game. When it came time for you guys to actually prove something to everyone you guys failed miserably. Most of the people that participated in that tournament Stopped playing and I Semi played back then. Neither of you are good nor were you ever good nor will you ever be good in my eyes.

Facts don't lie. Have a nice day.

once agin a royal members looks up a tourny im not talkin about since u talk 2 fojib so much ask him wut toury am i talkin about
"Fojib add me 2 this tourny imma win it"
Fojib "wow swagg u really won"

ty 4 tryn 2 make me look dumb and folded dumb royals and there mixed up tournys i never said i won them all DUH

[longhairdontcare1]

oh and if u dont remember i remeber u sayn sumthin not same words

"swagg won ibet he wont double the prize and try to beat me" and yes i denied dont like chasin eles

[hdking]

BronX or whatever ya name is Eddo. Had no impact in the game at all, he didnt talk to anyone untill he was Lvl 94 && even then he only talked to a selected amout of friends. FireFistAce woulda Whooped Eddo && Fandango easy, FireFistAce's Team won the 1st Ever WindSlayer Tournament.

Los who was that kid? what did he even do? If your list is more then just about Pvp skill MagicGoat shuda been up there before Los

For Summoner i forgot about the Influence thing. So best Summoner goes to Constipated aka Catastrophy Lol

PhoKing wasnt best Paladin he had no Impact with me i never even seen dude or Pvp'ed him thats why hes not on my List

GnG'ers are Washed up anyways now except Zaraki.

Most known BR player is Skarp he had alot of influence for all the BR players, any PRO BR guild Skarp was the leader of.


(-May-) May was the worst Bishop out there, If you were on her team and she didnt like you she wouldnt Heal you. Me, Woob, Lullaby, Maxmc && a few other players Hate me becuz she was unable to Heal us while we Trained. What Bishop lets a whole Party Die && all she did was heal she didnt even attack. Arab

Kandori was Cheeks Kandori was only known for Beefing with Woob. Anything Woob wanted he tried to get Tiramisu was in Kandori's Guild && Woob wanted her, Kandori didnt like it. Woob and Kandori was beefing there for Kandori was nothing untill Woob seen a girl from his Guild that he wanted LOL

[bronx90]

Wait.Waiiit.
He has to be Woob or Woob Fan?
***?

Weren't YOU the one that STATED this topic mainly,""WHO IS MORE IMPACTED IN THEIR CLASS?'
Woob is way moar impactful than Kandori.
Take a freakin' survey of WS. You'll see MORE players KNO' Woob.

You are lettin' your personal feelin' of friendship / campaign-ship of players and your hate/dislike of players get in the way.
You're being blind from the negative towards'the certain player and not givin' out the REAL TRUTH of their True Potential.
Players like you is why WindSlayer is dyin'.
You don't do anythin' to help AND you don't pass-on true history of WS.
I'm glad there are other players here to foretell other players' legacy and not just being bias like a GnG'r.

I'm disgust by players like you,Fojib,Mvffiny like to state that they're also from the same area as myself,GnG WindSlayer.
B'kuz I'm nuffin' like y'all. iDon't express myself to impress my fello' mates(in ur case ; ur GnG mates).

Y'all make GnG look like trash or represent it at least.
Take that logo/tag away from y'all. Before iRip it away and yourself.

Doki

This is what i want
1.Elaboration as to why woob should be replace
2.Give me some sort of proof to back those claims

Another thing

You are lettin' your personal feelin' of friendship / campaign-ship of players and your hate/dislike of players get in the way.
You're being blind from the negative towards'the certain player and not givin' out the REAL TRUTH of their True Potential.
Players like you is why WindSlayer is dyin'.
You don't do anythin' to help AND you don't pass-on true history of WS.
I'm glad there are other players here to foretell other players' legacy and not just being bias like a GnG'r.

I'm disgust by players like you,Fojib,Mvffiny like to state that they're also from the same area as myself,GnG WindSlayer.
B'kuz I'm nuffin' like y'all. iDon't express myself to impress my fello' mates(in ur case ; ur GnG mates).

Y'all make GnG look like trash or represent it at least.
Take that logo/tag away from y'all. Before iRip it away and yourself.

I'm all for discussion but i shouldn't have to remind you that this piece of written material at some point transform into a attack towards me and quote "GNG'rs". Because of irritation.Doki simply put, if you can't handle the heat you can simply leave.

Side note:

Nothing i say isn't personally opinionated but from a analyzed standpoint.Otherwise my list would be different.

1. Doki would not be greatest if i combine all 3 of my factors..I would say justin
2. Danger would be my pick as greatest paladin
3. Jacked would be my pick as the greatest berserker
4. Personally i think monster would be the greatest ele..just my opinion

But that's not the case because I'm a fair critic

My earlier quote

Don't let an incident like this occur again..or I'll just move on

Displaying horrible debating techniques is your flaw Doki..i'll move on

[kandori]

BronX or whatever ya name is Eddo. Had no impact in the game at all, he didnt talk to anyone untill he was Lvl 94 && even then he only talked to a selected amout of friends. FireFistAce woulda Whooped Eddo && Fandango easy, FireFistAce's Team won the 1st Ever WindSlayer Tournament.

Los who was that kid? what did he even do? If your list is more then just about Pvp skill MagicGoat shuda been up there before Los

For Summoner i forgot about the Influence thing. So best Summoner goes to Constipated aka Catastrophy Lol

PhoKing wasnt best Paladin he had no Impact with me i never even seen dude or Pvp'ed him thats why hes not on my List

GnG'ers are Washed up anyways now except Zaraki.

Most known BR player is Skarp he had alot of influence for all the BR players, any PRO BR guild Skarp was the leader of.


(-May-) May was the worst Bishop out there, If you were on her team and she didnt like you she wouldnt Heal you. Me, Woob, Lullaby, Maxmc && a few other players Hate me becuz she was unable to Heal us while we Trained. What Bishop lets a whole Party Die && all she did was heal she didnt even attack. Arab

Kandori was Cheeks Kandori was only known for Beefing with Woob. Anything Woob wanted he tried to get Tiramisu was in Kandori's Guild && Woob wanted her, Kandori didnt like it. Woob and Kandori was beefing there for Kandori was nothing untill Woob seen a girl from his Guild that he wanted LOL

You should refer to my previous posts and try to deny anything I mentioned. And tbh I just lost interests in this convo. Clearly you guys are so insecure with your own social status in the real world that you need to find acceptance in a online game that is obviously dead. For the sake of being human, don't commit suicide the day the game is shut down because clearly without being "popular" amongst around 50 or so people you guys wouldn't know what to do with yourselves. If you guys still want to hate me just because I never chose to talk to you when I played then so be it and Doki's only reason for hating is because I'm an elementalist even though I've owned him with various other classes. Just know that if you're still hating on someone that's quit the game over a year ago then clearly that's enough impact in itself. If any of you guys quit for more than a year you would be forgotten lol. Unlike you people can type my name in the search box for this forum and see what I've done, you guys? not so much.

[kandori]

oh and if u dont remember i remeber u sayn sumthin not same words

"swagg won ibet he wont double the prize and try to beat me" and yes i denied dont like chasin eles

U denied because u knew wat the outcome would be. And I remember that UNOFFICIAL tournament (which I didn't even enter because it wasn't official) and since fojib only held 2 tournaments why are u saying u won both? I just provided proof that you didn't even make it to the semi finals when the tournament actually had decent people pvping. I'll be on occasionally and you can 1v1 me anytime you want tbh but nothing will change.

Why do you think we gave you the option to double your prize money for beating me lol? And we said "Double or nothing" you didn't want to walk away with nothing so you decided not to pvp against me. Please wake up..

[bronx90]

BronX or whatever ya name is Eddo. Had no impact in the game at all, he didnt talk to anyone untill he was Lvl 94 && even then he only talked to a selected amout of friends. FireFistAce woulda Whooped Eddo && Fandango easy, FireFistAce's Team won the 1st Ever WindSlayer Tournament.

Los who was that kid? what did he even do? If your list is more then just about Pvp skill MagicGoat shuda been up there before Los

For Summoner i forgot about the Influence thing. So best Summoner goes to Constipated aka Catastrophy Lol

PhoKing wasnt best Paladin he had no Impact with me i never even seen dude or Pvp'ed him thats why hes not on my List

GnG'ers are Washed up anyways now except Zaraki.

Most known BR player is Skarp he had alot of influence for all the BR players, any PRO BR guild Skarp was the leader of.


(-May-) May was the worst Bishop out there, If you were on her team and she didnt like you she wouldnt Heal you. Me, Woob, Lullaby, Maxmc && a few other players Hate me becuz she was unable to Heal us while we Trained. What Bishop lets a whole Party Die && all she did was heal she didnt even attack. Arab

Kandori was Cheeks Kandori was only known for Beefing with Woob. Anything Woob wanted he tried to get Tiramisu was in Kandori's Guild && Woob wanted her, Kandori didnt like it. Woob and Kandori was beefing there for Kandori was nothing untill Woob seen a girl from his Guild that he wanted LOL


Okay I'm Jason

Eddo
Social skills is not something he does often. It shouldn't matter.Unless you actually know a individual in RL,then it isn't something that should affect anyone in the game.fangdang was more known as a serker than a shaolin so even if the case is he did defeat eddo,congrats.Would that make him along with firefistace better than eddo? No. Simply beacause, he also defeated ace and dang more so than they defeated him.Goes back to gng as being the best shaolin. He had a incredible streak of 5000 wins 0 losses.To transition into outspark as still being the top shoalin not to mention his pace of continuing to lvl his character, is a accomplishment. Now from that alone,there were alot of people in some way,that were in influence which is why i pick eddo.

Los
was the rogue that defeated every 2nd class pro multiple times with ease.Simply put, he defeated all the tourneys with ease. Which in turn made his impact sky high. Had significant impact on other greats
1.Rat-He train him to be the most popular in the beta era and rat was the greatest in the beta era
2.Justin-He was most skill'd novice simply because los defeated him 10-0
3.Frow-a match that went on 5 rounds and frow wasn't able to win even though los was still a rogue created frow's new technique

the impact and influence was already set in place because it created these 3 greats along with many others

Los was the rogue everyone look up to during the beta era simply put. You mention goat and king i think. They were beaten by los as a rogue. Around this time, I took a hiatus from ws so this is all i know. When i came back, he was a assassin so i can only imagine what happen.

Catastrophy

Who's that?

Phoking

hard to describe pho w/o showing a footage which i regret now b/c it'll be hard to describe my list without anyone feeling as though I'm being bias.Pho was and maybe still is, the best warrior period. his defensive style was unbreakable. Pho made a zerker also, and defeated jacked,Silent aka drifter,Danger,Etc.no one could beat him consistently in a overall match. His Impact and Influence stems from that alone.

May

She's not the worst bishop because alot of people are mean to her. Is that immature? yes. When she does help,it really does benefit since she seems to do things when it matters the most in a critical moment. May is the friendliest bishop which is ironic since when you think of a bishop you think of friendly,helpful individuals. May engulfs that whole concept completely and will be the most helpful player if you're a friend. So be nice to her.That is where the impact and influence comes from.

Kandori

He already explain why he's the overall greatest ele


Now this is from my old reports that i did a while back but I'm realizing that w/o visual proof,it'll be hard to completely explain their significance to this game.

[longhairdontcare1]

U denied because u knew wat the outcome would be. And I remember that UNOFFICIAL tournament (which I didn't even enter because it wasn't official) and since fojib only held 2 tournaments why are u saying u won both? I just provided proof that you didn't even make it to the semi finals when the tournament actually had decent people pvping. I'll be on occasionally and you can 1v1 me anytime you want tbh but nothing will change.

Why do you think we gave you the option to double your prize money for beating me lol? And we said "Double or nothing" you didn't want to walk away with nothing so you decided not to pvp against me. Please wake up..

unofficial official there was a prize i won i took it and laughed at yall royal members i didnt care bout the gold or nothin lol u want a couple million i can hook u its the principle that it was a quick toury he wanted 2 i was last pick i told him i will win and wut happened? its not my fault u wasnt in it or anybodys else's

and if i was to 1v1 ill prob beat all ur char's easy just 2 hear u say idc i quit btw i quit 2 but came back so dont say it like i been playn since the 1st day

and wassup wit u sayn everybody hatin on u cuz they statin true facts kandori and woob ws beef so everybodys hates on u just like they hated on woob b4 and after that big deal u sound like ur the 1 getn mad ur never on Os fourms or in ws till people said woob was better then u lols

[longhairdontcare1]

Okay I'm Jason

Eddo
Social skills is not something he does often. It shouldn't matter.Unless you actually know a individual in RL,then it isn't something that should affect anyone in the game.fangdang was more known as a serker than a shaolin so even if the case is he did defeat eddo,congrats.Would that make him along with firefistace better than eddo? No. Simply beacause, he also defeated ace and dang more so than they defeated him.Goes back to gng as being the best shaolin. He had a incredible streak of 5000 wins 0 losses.To transition into outspark as still being the top shoalin not to mention his pace of continuing to lvl his character, is a accomplishment. Now from that alone,there were alot of people in some way,that were in influence which is why i pick eddo.

Los
was the rogue that defeated every 2nd class pro multiple times with ease.Simply put, he defeated all the tourneys with ease. Which in turn made his impact sky high. Had significant impact on other greats
1.Rat-He train him to be the most popular in the beta era and rat was the greatest in the beta era
2.Justin-He was most skill'd novice simply because los defeated him 10-0
3.Frow-a match that went on 5 rounds and frow wasn't able to win even though los was still a rogue created frow's new technique

the impact and influence was already set in place because it created these 3 greats along with many others

Los was the rogue everyone look up to during the beta era simply put. You mention goat and king i think. They were beaten by los as a rogue. Around this time, I took a hiatus from ws so this is all i know. When i came back, he was a assassin so i can only imagine what happen.

Catastrophy

Who's that?

Phoking

hard to describe pho w/o showing a footage which i regret now b/c it'll be hard to describe my list without anyone feeling as though I'm being bias.Pho was and maybe still is, the best warrior period. his defensive style was unbreakable. Pho made a zerker also, and defeated jacked,Silent aka drifter,Danger,Etc.no one could beat him consistently in a overall match. His Impact and Influence stems from that alone.

May

She's not the worst bishop because alot of people are mean to her. Is that immature? yes. When she does help,it really does benefit since she seems to do things when it matters the most in a critical moment. May is the friendliest bishop which is ironic since when you think of a bishop you think of friendly,helpful individuals. May engulfs that whole concept completely and will be the most helpful player if you're a friend. So be nice to her.That is where the impact and influence comes from.

Kandori

He already explain why he's the overall greatest ele


Now this is from my old reports that i did a while back but I'm realizing that w/o visual proof,it'll be hard to completely explain their significance to this game.

lol all this los talk i guess i gotta bring it out i remember not to long ago when i was on my trapper he begged me to teach me how 2 grab like me? and ur callin him the best sin he couldnt grab till 3-5 months ago now all he does is grab *thx 2 swagg*

may is not wut ur makin it seem like maybe she just likes u i never talk 2 may she never talked 2 me but when we in pvp she wont heal me and if im vs her she will heal a friend till im dead wit massive teamin


and since kandori says he's best cuz his guild was a bunch ove lvler's its my turn


1.played every class masterd it easy was always ranked top 3 ove the class i wanted 2 play at the time well no dp never cared 4 that class
2.2 great guilds created my fav (Friday) 180ish wins -30ish Loss -5tie and ~Burr~
3.i helped people pvp and get better (smokey) was 1 now look at him
4.Maiev and me had trapper combo's that yall all doin now yea that bomb grab me and her started *more ove maiev she created but practiced wit me till we both knew perfect* (I Love U Maiev) ;)
5.Awesome Meele FastCastPro old fc and new fc only bad thing dont use woody much

but if i was a gng'er i would be better iguess lol

[fojib270]

dont forget royalz also controlled youtube which had a TON of wins

[doki_]

So Kandori isn't more impactful.. lol check the youtube vids. remember Royalz = number 1 guild. the only thing woob was known for is being annoying, harassing girls, losing to me way too many times to count, remaking random guilds with little to no success, creating the first Royalz clone guild (aka Kings) with same logo and etc. Other players named themselves after me and I don't mean woob/swagg either. Me I won the first official mage tourney. One of the highest players in the game WITH one of the highest pvp ranks (at the time). If being banned multiple times = more impactful then sure, woob would win that lol. The fact of the matter is if you did do a poll today and ask how many people know me or woob then woob would win because I already quit like a year now? And all the players worth talking to have quit also. Any of the old players that log on and see me will say I'm more known than woob lol. You need to wise up. Just because you didn't like me doesn't mean u can try to talk me down as if you don't know reality. And for proof of my "impact" go to the forum and search for 1 specific topic I created and look at how much attention it got. lol my impact is everywhere.
WOOB AND/OR TIRAMISU MADE ROYALZ.

YOUR GUILD WAS NOTHING WITHOUT TIRAMISU.
TIRAMISU LEFT ROYALZ. WOOB QUIT BOTHERING WITH ROYALZ.
YOUR GUILD DIED.
End Of Story.

Thats'all,iHad to say.

[doki_]

Fojib was the first person to start hosting tournaments which was sponsored by MY guild. Ever since then some of you or occasionally someone would try to do the same thing. Are u seriously that blind lol? My guild ran this game at one time and there's nobody that can deny that. Highest lvl players, Richest, first guild to have highest lvl pets. several top pvpers, Top of leaderboards, first party to win the "race to 45 event", we've done waaaaaaaay too much, above and beyond anyone else on this game.The fact that you're all STILL TO THIS DAY talking about me or hating me whenever I log on proves how much of an impact I still have lol. My pvp rank was attained over a year ago. and barely anyone has passed me STILL. Imagine if I never stopped lol
With all those accomplishments you're still not known to this day moar than Woob.

Oh...and..
What are you talkin' 'bout?
Fojib was the only player iSee that mention you.
iDon't see somebody else doin' so.
/Fail.

[doki_]

hmmmm quotes bronx

may cant Melee so give that to save?,chii has a better Impact?,anima is more Influential?

and yall 4got bout that 1 bishop yukee or w/e she was scary D:
[Shrugs]
Anima says Saveline is the best Bishop. iHear a lot players'say that.
But Saveline always denies to 1v1 meh. Even Sevic ask'd for meh 1nce,lol.


lol all this los talk i guess i gotta bring it out i remember not to long ago when i was on my trapper he begged me to teach me how 2 grab like me? and ur callin him the best sin he couldnt grab till 3-5 months ago now all he does is grab *thx 2 swagg*

may is not wut ur makin it seem like maybe she just likes u i never talk 2 may she never talked 2 me but when we in pvp she wont heal me and if im vs her she will heal a friend till im dead wit massive teamin


and since kandori says he's best cuz his guild was a bunch ove lvler's its my turn


1.played every class masterd it easy was always ranked top 3 ove the class i wanted 2 play at the time well no dp never cared 4 that class
2.2 great guilds created my fav (Friday) 180ish wins -30ish Loss -5tie and ~Burr~
3.i helped people pvp and get better (smokey) was 1 now look at him
4.Maiev and me had trapper combo's that yall all doin now yea that bomb grab me and her started *more ove maiev she created but practiced wit me till we both knew perfect* (I Love U Maiev) ;)
5.Awesome Meele FastCastPro old fc and new fc only bad thing dont use woody much

but if i was a gng'er i would be better iguess lol

IF you were GnG'r. You most likely be bias like them.
I'm a GnG'r and I'm not.
Yay~

[doki_]

Doki

This is what i want
1.Elaboration as to why woob should be replace
2.Give me some sort of proof to back those claims

Another thing

You are lettin' your personal feelin' of friendship / campaign-ship of players and your hate/dislike of players get in the way.
You're being blind from the negative towards'the certain player and not givin' out the REAL TRUTH of their True Potential.
Players like you is why WindSlayer is dyin'.
You don't do anythin' to help AND you don't pass-on true history of WS.
I'm glad there are other players here to foretell other players' legacy and not just being bias like a GnG'r.

I'm disgust by players like you,Fojib,Mvffiny like to state that they're also from the same area as myself,GnG WindSlayer.
B'kuz I'm nuffin' like y'all. iDon't express myself to impress my fello' mates(in ur case ; ur GnG mates).

Y'all make GnG look like trash or represent it at least.
Take that logo/tag away from y'all. Before iRip it away and yourself.

I'm all for discussion but i shouldn't have to remind you that this piece of written material at some point transform into a attack towards me and quote "GNG'rs". Because of irritation.Doki simply put, if you can't handle the heat you can simply leave.

Side note:

Nothing i say isn't personally opinionated but from a analyzed standpoint.Otherwise my list would be different.

1. Doki would not be greatest if i combine all 3 of my factors..I would say justin
2. Danger would be my pick as greatest paladin
3. Jacked would be my pick as the greatest berserker
4. Personally i think monster would be the greatest ele..just my opinion

But that's not the case because I'm a fair critic

My earlier quote

Don't let an incident like this occur again..or I'll just move on

Displaying horrible debating techniques is your flaw Doki..i'll move on
Woob was involved Kings,Royalz,~Poke~,Burr,Friday.
He even brought Swagg to WS.
Woob made Tiramisu famous.Woob made Kandori famous.
iCant' think of anythin' else.
But iKno' he made/build a lot players along with Guilds.

Accomplishments don't matter if they're not remember and/or recognizedly by the Community.
Just b'kuz iWon Somethin' WS-Related or Tournament.
Doesn't mean anybody goin' bring it up and/or myself.
Just the player who was there and/or heard 'bout it.
Its'not goin' spread like wildfire. Sorry.

"Proof?" You never gave any 100% proof on any of your lists.
Well,you've been here since the beginnin'. You're View'r.
So,you saw it. If you didn't.[Shrugs]You weren't there.

Seein' is belivin' is your motto then?

...
iDisplay horrible debatin' techniques?
Please,explain why. If you can't explain it well enough. Imma make a Topic ~
This Topic Is Just Being Bias As Hell.

[doki_]

You should refer to my previous posts and try to deny anything I mentioned. And tbh I just lost interests in this convo. Clearly you guys are so insecure with your own social status in the real world that you need to find acceptance in a online game that is obviously dead. For the sake of being human, don't commit suicide the day the game is shut down because clearly without being "popular" amongst around 50 or so people you guys wouldn't know what to do with yourselves. If you guys still want to hate me just because I never chose to talk to you when I played then so be it and Doki's only reason for hating is because I'm an elementalist even though I've owned him with various other classes. Just know that if you're still hating on someone that's quit the game over a year ago then clearly that's enough impact in itself. If any of you guys quit for more than a year you would be forgotten lol. Unlike you people can type my name in the search box for this forum and see what I've done, you guys? not so much.

Wow,he just brought somethin' up ReaLyfe-related.
KANDORI IS MAD. o:
Swagg you got Kandori mad! ... Well,who hasn't,lol..

Um,iDidn'tKno' you had any other classes but Elementalist. ~ Fact.

Tamer Vs Kandori / Striker02
iWon most of the matches. Thats'when Striker02 when get involved with his Zerker.
Then you stand there.
Basically This :....
Tamer : Well,iWon against Kandori.
Striker : So? You can't beat meh.
Kandori : Yeah,you can't beat Striker.
Tamer : Ok,iLost to Striker. iWon against Kandori.
Striker&Kandori : Lol.
.......................................Yeah,thats' how it really went down.


No one mention'd you but basically Fojib.
Fojib is just being bias. Thats'all.

[tersmha]

Lol seriously? 25 pages? Soon this topic is gonna have more pages than people that still play WS

This topic deserves a ....


http://www.motifake.com/image/demotivational-poster/0808/jesus-facepalm-facepalm-jesus-epic-demotivational-poster-1218659828.jpg


Lol if you're gonna assert yourselves as influential and assertive pvper ... why not do it a game that's actually recognized by the mmo community as a legitimate mmo? There's a reason why so few people play this game ...

[bronx90]

lol all this los talk i guess i gotta bring it out i remember not to long ago when i was on my trapper he begged me to teach me how 2 grab like me? and ur callin him the best sin he couldnt grab till 3-5 months ago now all he does is grab *thx 2 swagg*

may is not wut ur makin it seem like maybe she just likes u i never talk 2 may she never talked 2 me but when we in pvp she wont heal me and if im vs her she will heal a friend till im dead wit massive teamin


and since kandori says he's best cuz his guild was a bunch ove lvler's its my turn


1.played every class masterd it easy was always ranked top 3 ove the class i wanted 2 play at the time well no dp never cared 4 that class
2.2 great guilds created my fav (Friday) 180ish wins -30ish Loss -5tie and ~Burr~
3.i helped people pvp and get better (smokey) was 1 now look at him
4.Maiev and me had trapper combo's that yall all doin now yea that bomb grab me and her started *more ove maiev she created but practiced wit me till we both knew perfect* (I Love U Maiev) ;)
5.Awesome Meele FastCastPro old fc and new fc only bad thing dont use woody much

but if i was a gng'er i would be better iguess lol

hmm i see

about that Los comment

It's possible for people to take a couple of months/years off and just never really re-capture their prime.happens all the time in boxing,basketball,golf etc.

The same could be apply to Los although ever since I've been back i never saw him but it's possible.

If you taught him how to grab (which i find hilarious) great job maybe he's trying to re learn grab.Just don't bash this guy.He still is a very important figure

Swagg right?

congrats on your accomplishments. top 3 most definitely. It's just that blue accomplish more in a pretty hard to do era.

No this isn't suppose to be gng vs outspark whatsoever but a debate keep that in mind