Fighter Builds

[Drelovely]

what current builds is everybody following besides the pure power and agi. build.
i'm currently doing a 3:2:1 build. pow: sta: agi. its not bad either.

[skonesos]

just out of interest, what lvl are u and how is your build going now?

[ravin1488]

well my build so far is pow21 agi10 stam10 and men5
(Note I am only lvl 33)

[Rodaa]

yeah but what method are you using

how much POW do you put in before adding to AGI,STA and MEN?

and (just to check) you are talking about SoS right? XP

[ravin1488]

Yeah I am talking about SoS

I put power then I split it in the other stats. It might be the wrong way but at 33 I hit on mobs white to me for 190 and that is with slash

[Rodaa]

to me your stats just look random 0o

well im doing 2 POW 1 AGI, but thinking of switch to 2 POW 1 MEN

[POURI]

I am 3Pow:1Men, but now i want to try 3Pow:1Men:1Sta. I will write the results later!

[Drelovely]

just out of interest, what lvl are u and how is your build going now?

right now i'm @ lvl 25. i hit about 50 hp normally. like 100 with slash. i dodge a good amount and get criticals more often. plus i think my hp is like early 400 or late 300s. but i'm gonna switch it to pow: sta: men soon... i think my build balances itsself out tho..

[ravin1488]

Meh I need to find a good build I guess I think for Blazing I need 6wiz that true or no?

[Arkova]

you need 6 INT for blazing, to answer your question.

At level 38 I've put 42 points into POW and 4 into the two prerequisite skills. In the CB I used several points in AGL (as opposed to complete POW) and, although it may be my imagination, it seems to make my character's profficiency at killing monsters decrease.
I guess this is a really wordy way of asking; does AGL decrease combat parameters somehow? (ratio between AGL/POW perhaps?)

[ravin1488]

Well so far I can solo reds but I do have down time.A lot of down time....but so far I can hold my own if I have a Healer I can solo anything.

[tehsamm]

Uh oh... Uh... I did pure STR! O_o... But I might put those last 6 points on Wisdom just for the Blazing Skill.

Edit

PURE STR's biggest downside is that you have to rest for quite a bit.... It's really fancy to do all this damage but... The fact you will have to take a lot of blows is a downfall... Oh well, let's see where this STR road will take me too... :D

[excell1509]

okay i need help. is a fighter the right way to go for someone's first time?

[tehsamm]

okay i need help. is a fighter the right way to go for someone's first time?

To be honest, because people are still looking for the best stat buildup for almost any character, I guess I wouldn't even know what to do.

Though, if you want something simple, stat-wise, you can try being an acolyte with pure INT. Ahahaha xD

Oh and, Welcome to SoS.

[arianmsani]

Lvl 35 squire,32Pow,8 AGI,4STA<< for class change,5wis<<blazing, so i dont need to put into STA Edit: think i should add agi or men?

[ilovepink]

so wat u talking bout^^

[ilovepink]

i am a level 39 :D ohh lol
i am so proud of myself *tears*

[Drelovely]

lol thats funny. I like how u put in the tear thingy....

[babypanda]

I'm kinda new to this thing...So i have a few questions

1) is STR and POW the same thing?

2) Is it advisable to put my stats POW/AGI? Or pure POW only?

[m1n054]

I'm kinda new to this thing...So i have a few questions

1) is STR and POW the same thing?

2) Is it advisable to put my stats POW/AGI? Or pure POW only?

1.- Probably Yes... (Although there's no STR in the Stats list)

2. That's what the topic is about :P, deciding where to put the stats.

Well, I'm thinking on doing 2POW:1AGI:1MEN xD or maybe 3POW:2AGI:1MEN

I'm not sure about the importance on AGI or on MEN.

[excell1509]

umm i was wonderin how do i become a fighter? right now im 14th lvl.

[excell1509]

nevermind i found out. but ummm is a 13 pow. 4 agil. and 5 stam. good for 16th lvl?

[Rodaa]

just do pure POW as a xenian...the rest will be explained at job change

[excell1509]

i got it all taken care of when i became a fighter but now what should i do for my stats?

[StPauliGirl]

its 6 wisdom, yes....:D

[Aurican]

I recommend 1 point to POW per level, excluding those divisible by 5. Depending on your play style those bonus points should go into Agi, Sta, Men or a split of Sta/Men, Sta/Agi first. Agi(17), Men(16) are good, decent caps, while investing the rest into Pow, Sta. Save the points from lvl 35 and 36 for burning. My example is as follows:
I am soloing on low maps until lvl 36 where I will start partying in SMALL groups. Pow: 1 point per lvl minus levels divisble by 5. Pow:(23+3)lvl.30, Agi(14)lvl.30, Wis(6)lvl.36, Pow:(30+3)lvl.40, Agi(17)lvl.40, Men(3)lvl.40. By lvl 40 my stats will be as follows: Pow:30+3, Agi:17, Men:3, Sta:4, Wis:6. At this point I can either get Men to 16 first or split Men/Sta every level divisble by 5 giving Men the larger split until Men(16). After which remaining points will go into Pow/Sta; excluding burning 2 which will need another 6 points I believe. Of course, knowing what my stat caps will be I could neglect Agi first for Sta, which will make killing a mob take longer but I can fighter higher lvl mobs effectively. How you stat simply deteremines where and how you level up, get it?

[ravin1488]

6 wis can blow off a hole build but it is worth it

[excell1509]

ok so i need a little help. i dont have the hole hange of this game yet (prolly b/c i can only get on everyother weekend) and i need help so if there are any tips for the fighter class could you just let me know? thanx that would help out a lot. and is going solos good or bad for the labrinth b/c i am having trouble with it.

[FateStayNight]

you need 9wisdom for lv 2 blazing it says 6 but its a typo

[Lochlinn]

Only 9? That is a relief o.o

At first, I thought I did not need anymore Wis than the 6 because the skill book did not show any change. Then someone who played in CB told me that I needed 12 Wis to use Blazing Lv 2. Then someone else in game told me that I actually only need 10 Wis to use Blazing Lv 2. So, finally, is it really only 9? No harm in testing it out once I have 9 Wis before getting 10 Wis, 12 Wis, etc.

[Drelovely]

ok so i need a little help. i dont have the hole hange of this game yet (prolly b/c i can only get on everyother weekend) and i need help so if there are any tips for the fighter class could you just let me know? thanx that would help out a lot. and is going solos good or bad for the labrinth b/c i am having trouble with it.

you DO NOT want to do the lab by yourself, no matter what your level. For the lab....you will need a GOOD party, and probably someone who knows the way as well. Plus, stock up on health pots and mp pots as well...other than that, good luck in there.

[yukunpeng]

2pow 2 Agl 1 Man

[UltimateDude]

full pow is the best way to go if you want to be a pure dd

[Soane]

I just started playing earlier today but, I am thinking of being a fighter and I think my build will be something like 2POW 3STA.

[Hungrybucky]

Well so far i'm lvl 25 and im going power pure for now and its working out ok i guess. I really want to start taking less damage tho so if anyone can help me out there i'd really appreciate it.:)

[Drelovely]

put some points into stamina to take less dmg. putting points into agility is good if u want to negate dmg all together (in other words, to DODGE the opponent's attack)...

[chukwu_train]

I've been working on the 3:2:1 build (I'm currenlty level 29).

Pros:
I deal sufficient dmg
I take little dmg (once I received armour of wind)
I have a high atk spd

Cons:
Low mp for Slash so I have to rest often or buy mp pots (100 each)
Aquiring 6 Wis is going to screw my build over
The beginning stages are very awkward and difficult
I doubt my build sometimes

Idks:
I can beat upto 3 reds at a time (individually) but then I have to rest
I dodge sometimes
It's a unique fighter build

[CDNdarkmage]

so whats better AGI or MEN. right now i have 10AGI and only 1 MEN should i incress AGI or MAN

[Rodaa]

i'd really consider MEN to be the better of the two, infact if theres a stat reset in the cash shop i may switch to that build

[CDNdarkmage]

does MEN give increas movement speed and attacking speed like AGI does?

[AznNarutoFox]

anyone no if this is a good build 2:1:1 POW:AGI:MEN

[Drelovely]

dunno...but i'm currenty switched to 2:1:1 pow, agi, sta...

[piepinson]

i dont really have a build just got 20 pow then got 17 agi and 6 wis now i put all in pow and maybe continue with 2:1 pow sta build i got 17 agi for 1.2 attack speed 6 wis for blazing.

and umm off topic does some know what wis u need for lvl 2 blazing and so on???Cause i am gonna continue with blazing to.

[Drelovely]

i think its 9 wis...not quite sure tho

[TaRgEt14]

just to check then.. is blazing a gd skill to invest in? such that u guys will pump on wis to learn the higher lvl blazing.. or perhaps lvl 2 would be too much of a waste? coz i not sure on this..

[kinwaing]

just to check then.. is blazing a gd skill to invest in? such that u guys will pump on wis to learn the higher lvl blazing.. or perhaps lvl 2 would be too much of a waste? coz i not sure on this..

I have Blazing Lv 1 and it goes fine. it gives 130+hp but blazing lv 2 gives 150+hp. so i dun think its good to invest on lvl 2 blazing. my build is all Pow except i put 6 points on WIS for Blazing Lv 1. so far i can hit more dmg then the other squires in the server ..just for now. LOLz

PS: squires r not solo class. in my opinion, i didnt put any points at MEN or AGI. because u really need an aco when u go to lvl. And u need to know that aco Need us or neo to tank. so why dont u put all into POW...well think about it.

[Drelovely]

any1 trying different builds...plz post here with your findings...thx

[Polexia]

well lets see.

i'm in my 50s and i agree with kinwaing over here.

i havent put all my stats in POW. i invested some in agi (11) adn some in men (think about 8) then 6 wis for blazing and the required to be a squire for stamina.


point is, like i read some pages back, putting agi into a squire seems to actually make it worse, not better.

if i kill a mob, and some other squire kills a mob, same one at the same time, its the same. and i have agi and the other squire doesnt.

in fact, i miss more hits than other squires, when agi is supposed to enhance the velocity and accuracy of a hit.

what i cant complain about are my critics, which come along quite often.


but from now on im going all pOW.

[Drelovely]

thank you for your insight

[bey123]

just out of interest, what lvl are u and how is your build going now?

:confused:

[Blasphometh]

i have question... are the builds like pure str or pure agi for fighter are good?

[Eraldus]

well lets see.

i'm in my 50s and i agree with kinwaing over here.

i havent put all my stats in POW. i invested some in agi (11) adn some in men (think about 8) then 6 wis for blazing and the required to be a squire for stamina.


point is, like i read some pages back, putting agi into a squire seems to actually make it worse, not better.

if i kill a mob, and some other squire kills a mob, same one at the same time, its the same. and i have agi and the other squire doesnt.

in fact, i miss more hits than other squires, when agi is supposed to enhance the velocity and accuracy of a hit.

what i cant complain about are my critics, which come along quite often.


but from now on im going all pOW.

Men increases hit rate, not agi unfortunately =/

[Rodaa]

AGI increases attack rate

MEN increases skill rate...or at least it did

@Blasphometh
Pure AGI is a neophye build, but Pure POW it a good build and is what i use

[Blasphometh]

@Rodaa
thx ;] i will try your build then ;)

[Eraldus]

AGI increases attack rate

MEN increases skill rate...or at least it did

@Blasphometh
Pure AGI is a neophye build, but Pure POW it a good build and is what i use

You sure? I have a quite high Agi and low men and my attack rate didn't increased from 85, unless the attack rate that Men increases isn't related to physical attack rate.

[Rodaa]

if you want the proof look at a pure AGI neophyte

besides, AGI isn't really very effective for squires as we only really spam skills

[Eraldus]

Well, i'm a Squire, so i don't know how Agi works for Neophytes, but if you say so...

[ChaoticPyro]

You sure? I have a quite high Agi and low men and my attack rate didn't increased from 85, unless the attack rate that Men increases isn't related to physical attack rate.

I think you are referring to hit rate not attack rate. Hit rate is your accuracy and attack rate is how fast you attack. MEN increases hit rate as well as BOTH skill and normal critical and AGI increases attack rate, power, and dodge.

EDIT: MEN decreases casting speed (but not now thanks to a bug) and the attack rate represents the time it takes to attack. So if the number should decrease, the attack rate is increased since there is less time required between attacks.

[Aintdizpimp]

this thread kinda went off topic but whatever my build is a 6:2:1 ratio power mentality and stamina i dont know about other builds but this one works well for me.

Looking for friends and party meassage me in the game

Hoar - Squire Lvl 32

[luvssti]

for me i go for the pure pow build. it makes your damage higher and kill monster quickly and that makes your character lvl faster..

[evil120]

I m thinking of doin like , Pow: agi: Sta= 3:2:1

[branbranboy1]

i do alll points on pow

[Vespar]

3pow:1men:1sta is a good build

[Vaqaas]

I just pump up my power all the way, until i believe i'm good on power

[SilverTitan]

lvl 32 now i can solo up to mystra basin (with lots of sitting time; like every 2monsters i do 150+ with sharp weapon on) i put 29pow, 6wis, 4agi, 5sta and 2men

i plan on bringing my agi and men up to 10 and bring sta to 15.....eventually

pretty much a mix i dont pump them in any ratio but wen my pow reaches a certain number i add into the other stats

[GX_Gamer]

This is what i think:at first u should put all your stats to Pow until u think it's enough,then put your stats on Men/Sta to raise HP(forgot wich rises HP^^) then u can put some points to agi the u do the same thing again:Pow,Stam/Men,Agi

[doady]

lvl 27 squire... so far all my pts have gone into POW (except the default agi ones when u choose ur class at lvl 16)

i have 3 pts into WIS, waiting till 3 lvls before blazing to put last 3 into WIS, then im gonna switch to 2:1 POW/STAM... figure dont need agi when u can outlast and outdmg your opponents lol

[juruu]

uhh, right now im 3:1 - pow:sta (lvl 42), but i dont feel satisfied.

which one should i pump? agi or men? which ones more worth it?

i want quicker attack speed, im not sure which i should go for.

[ryuken553]

I think that agi would not help that much to fighers, but its good for neophytes.

Also I think you should go with Men because it increases your accuracy, skill speed, and

both critical skills. Btw I'm full Pow right now, but at around lvl 40 I'm going to start

pumping into Men for accuracy.

[Drelovely]

wow O.O i've decided to revive this age old thread so that we can continue to discuss builds and help each other out >.<

right now im currently using my own variation of the men build, 4:1 pow:men. i like my build a lot b/c of the number of criticals i get along with the skill casting speed. i'm still wrking on the timing of button mashing though. there are times when every button mash is a skill and i'm able to kill a mobb in a matter of seconds. then there are times when i only cast a skill twice and the third hit is a normal attack o.O (it gets me slightly agitated). when it comes to aoe, i use patience right before i kill to increase my critical and i have to say that using patience makes a BIG difference. without it i get a few criticals here and there but once i use it just about every WS (Wild Swing) i get a whole flurry of the blue critical signs :-P i'll continue to use my men and will continue to post my progress every now and then as well. i also plan on doing more pvp to see how well my men build stacks up against other fighter builds.

[nakster23]

O.o never knew what patience does till now. So, it increases skill criticals? One more thing, the different levels of shield crash.. what are their differences?

Where do i get Master Book Slash? Omg, too many questions.. lol

I'm full power with 3 men at the moment. I like my built. Good damage can solo easily. Bad at partying though.

[Drelovely]

O.o never knew what patience does till now. So, it increases skill criticals? One more thing, the different levels of shield crash.. what are their differences?

Where do i get Master Book Slash? Omg, too many questions.. lol

I'm full power with 3 men at the moment. I like my built. Good damage can solo easily. Bad at partying though.

hehe when i can i'll post what the descrption of Patience does. and yes for as long as you have it up, and IF you are hit buy a monster (during aoe you most likely are being hit >.>) it increases the critical rate. i assume it also increases normal attack criticals as well.

the different levels of shield crash are simple i guess. as the level increases the duration for which the enemy is stunned increases as the level of monsters who can be stunned also increases as well (tho you shouldn't forget that stunning someone/mobb is also based on your CURRENT level).

i would assume that you get the slash master book from drops from mobbs though which mobbs drop it i'm not sure.

now i have a qustion for you. exactly how much dmg to you do to a mobb, wat level are u currently, and do you have points in wisdom for blazing?

[shp4656]

Pure POW works just fine.

[Drelovely]

Pure POW works just fine.

pure pow, mixed in with higher lvl blaze works well yes. but wen it comes to pvp, you will miss rogue/neos A LOT more that if you had lets say men o.O so i believe it all really depends on the type of fighter someone wants to me. whats right for you might not necessarily be whats right for someone else.

[AxisofOddity]

I've put all points to POW so far, and am lvl 27. Lvling was quite quick, and the weight storage is much convenient. Should I continue with POW, or add to STA? MEN? Or AGI?

Also, referring to the previous post, if you want better accuracy in PVP, should you add to MEN, or AGI?

[TRXSTA]

If it's imperative for you to hit neophytes/rogues in pvp, add points in MEN; MEN increases your hit rate.

[BellaAnimorum]

the different levels of shield crash are simple i guess. as the level increases the duration for which the enemy is stunned increases as the level of monsters who can be stunned also increases as well (tho you shouldn't forget that stunning someone/mobb is also based on your CURRENT level).

This may be a false assumption.
I have SC level 4, and the duration of the stun is approximately 3-4 seconds, which is no different than SC level 1.
I will test it some more, if I am wrong I will delete this post.
(Other people should help to prove/disprove this...)

[wildswing]

Shield crash works such that it stuns for 5 sec at all levels, but the duration for slowing the enemy increase by 1 sec every level starting at 5 sec at level 1.

Level 1: 5 second stun, 5 second slow
Level 2: 5 second stun, 6 second slow
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.
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If slowing the enemy isn't your concern, then level 1 might be optimal for you in order to save some mana.

[shiningkittenfur]

you need 6 INT for blazing, to answer your question.


i never used a squire before.. but isnt blazing 6 wis? ^^;

as for builds, i heard pure POW or POW/MEN works well
i dont know the ratios thou D:

[Kairi13]

i never used a squire before.. but isnt blazing 6 wis? ^^;

as for builds, i heard pure POW or POW/MEN works well
i dont know the ratios thou D:

i dont suggest men....
well not me my friend lolz he already posted too o.o

[sedfvgt]

mostly pow n wen u hav xtra pts put on mostly men n little in agi
works well @ least 4 me i hit bout 230s on mobs n 300s on critical w/ a
lvl 34 squire u get lots of crittical hits 2

[shp4656]

Can you really hit neos by adding a few points into MEN??? I once made a squire with POW/MEN build. By the time it had 10 MEN, the hit rate was 88, which is 3% higher than FULL POW (85 hit rate). So, im guessing if you have 30 MEN, you'd have 94 Hit Rate?? (BTW, not many ppl can have 30 men at least at early lvs)

chance of successful hit = Your hit rate - Opponent's Dodge Rate.

ex. FULL POW: 85 - 60 (Neo's dodge) = 25
POW/30 MEN:94 - 60 = 34

So, a squire with POW/MEN build (considering that this squire managed to get 30 MEN) has around 10% more chance of hitting a neo than a squire with FULL POW.. Well, that is a big difference, but I don't think 10% is still a lot considering that you spent 30 points into MEN.. If those points went to POW, your dmg would be a lot better. And, your high damage offsets your lower chance of hitting neos.

When my squire (POW/ 10 MEN) was around Lv 50, I met another squire who had FULL POW build. I remember his damage was a lot higher than mine, and even when I got critical, the damage was not as high as his regular slash attack. My damage was messed up when I had only 10 MEN....

whats right for you might not necessarily be whats right for someone else.
You are definitely right.. It all depends on how you want to play. I know many people like critical hits/higher hit rate (MEN) or higher HP (STA) and I think that's great. I just like to hit harder and I don't really care about PvP XD

[CyberPhoenixSlayer]

Ok, level 69 Knight i am

Pow is your best ally as a Squire/Knight/Warrior

I go Agi until i get 16 for Dual-Wield, i prefer kill one at time than aoe at Warrior, will change to the Shield if i want to AOE for extra def. O.O

For Wis, i recommend to put some points on this, i will go seek out the LV5 Blazing skill so i need like 18 Wis, also an advantage to all this Wis, more MP.

Sta is useless unless you don't want to use Blazing skill.

Int is useless, this class dosen't use magic skill, so useless.

Men is useless, i try on my Templar and did a stat reset immediatly to return almost full Pow build(98%Pow/1%Sta/1%Wis).

So my build is 75% Pow/12.5% Agi/12,5% Wis for now if i calculate my stats.

Will not tell my character stats, i will do a sig soon

[darkchayo]

lvl 59 squire her i put all my stats in pow its great for me,right now i got 60+5

[stargirl105336]

what current builds is everybody following besides the pure power and agi. build.
i'm currently doing a 3:2:1 build. pow: sta: agi. its not bad either.

i will join your guild
my name is stargirl11
:):p

[stargirl105336]

i want some one to let me join they're guild

[captain_awesomeness]

Late 4x Neo, full AGI here (AGI currently 5x)...

In the case of Squires, I recommend a roughly 4:1 POW/Stamina build...make sure by 36 you have 6 WIS and leave enough points to tack on 3 more WIS every 15 levels after that so your blazing can grow. MEN can be tempting, but don't bother with it because the added hit rate is totally absorbed by your lower attacking power. You can feel free to disregard that if you use a +x/6AP sword though. INT = useless for both of us. AGI can be tempting for you, but without speed boosts (like those of us Neos) or a store item that increases your attack speed, it's still not worth it in my opinion.

Just my two cents though; it is your character after all!

[Arkova]

A long time ago, I reset to test mentality to 20 and the skill casting speed of Slash did NOT change whatsoever.
Recently, I reset again to 20 men (expensive x_x) to test out if a difference could be seen with the upgraded primary attack skill, Penetration. Again, absolutely no difference whatsoever.
In both cases, men did however:
-slightly increase the rate of critical hits from skills
-less misses to assassins in pvp ahaha (although the damage dealt was significantly lower than with full pow)

The just of the matter is that the skill animation for both slash and penetration is caped to a certain length of time. Men does not effect the casting speed of fighter skills as far as I have seen -at least until men/animation is altered or fixed.

sooo...


Secret Build!!! : put 50 points in men for crazy skill speed :OOO