SleepingForest guild of Botters/Plvlers/Goldsellers

[Discontent]

Well, I want to suggest to everyone to stay clear of this guild! They were running mob trains on us because we we're farming the sap they need to make silver with for a goldselling website.

They Bot to sell gold and to power lvl people. It is widely known by all legit players that they are botters, I just hope they will be dealt with by the GM's

[tazzz]

yea they mob me everytime i get around tem and wave at me and boot my party

[KaizokuEpic]

Not only that but they start guild wars and harrass players while trying to grind

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/epsie/screenshot.jpg

[Doomherald]

Get Them Banned!!!

[WindStruck_]

yea! i agree they should be banned if its true, i agree!


but some evidence and player names from the guild who abused please.
for others i can help reply you hehe :p

i am an admin in that guild so if u want some help, fill me up with the information.

1.Well, I want to suggest to everyone to stay clear of this guild!
They were running mob trains on us because we we're farming the sap

1.a[ provide with nicks please, all i know is that chinsky, shen and G_hunter_W farming saps last night. If the people who did it are not the 3 of them please kindly provide me with further information like IGN n stuff]

2.[EG] They Bot to sell gold and to power lvl people. It is widely known by all legit players that they are botters

2a. very well, i believe you hold some detailed information, kindly give screenshots and nicks of players donig this as i too am very against botting, but people must understand that not all of them bot and stuff so i need valid names for this to not exist anymore. And while running from elderine to cp for deathrun to uruga, i see alot of unknowns esp cleric botting, from other guilds too so we should get rid of this problem once and for all and start a thread and report all botters there so GMs can follow up with the information.

As for Goldselling, i am not very sure about that issue, i am not very sure how do u know about it and where and when, but i have been working together with dakkon to clear out this issue.

Preferably i would choose to believe this as dakkon has logs of trading done by my fellow guild members and has and will check them as dakkon does not approve of any gold supplying and to my knowledge, dakkon is keeping track of everyone's transaction and that dakkon enforces this rule very strictly.

So i will erase any doubts with this that there are no gold farming characters in this Guild presently.
[NOTE] from what i know, dakkon sees where the transaction comes from go to and stuff so no one can cheat the gm :p meaning if you pass it to a noob and then to a bank followed by the silvers being distributed, you can't get away with it.

As for powerlevelling.. im not so such about that, other than Hunter plevelling his newb character uh.. i dont see why he cant powerlevel his own character. for additional information, please supply this thread so we get a clear image.

And yea, we have got involved with a few guild wars but we it was friendly ones in which we have spoken to a admin or GM to start a war O_O? probably?? ah ya other then the one we started a war for deathangels to help them as they were getting ganked as they are friends of chinsky and currently she has gone over to help them but as friend we will still help if 6 guilds still continue ganking deathangels at a single time^^


[PS] for damage_inc people, miyavizm here. i was away when you guys had a war earlier on so you can PM me in game or state here the reason why u guys had a war and who declared.



Seriously, i know that SF has some problems cause there is babel, but thats why im in SF, too help u guys communicate ^^ everyone wants a fun time including chinese people~ and ill mannered players exist everywhere^^



so if u want preventions of such events happening again, you can kindly post the information i require so i can boot them from guild and that GMs can have the information too.

[Discontent]

Get Them Banned!!!
Blue, DIXIE and I (Xanex) quit guild because of them... and as far as proof I dont know how a screen shot could justify or proove anything? maybe Fraps of the cleric(s) using what appers to be a fighter skill in Goblin Camp. the best proof IMO. would be if a GM would come watch them in Disguise if needed, There are 10 50+ cleric in CP that are plvling new bots

[WindStruck_]

Blue, DIXIE and I (Xanex) quit guild because of them... and as far as proof I dont know how a screen shot could justify or proove anything? maybe Fraps of the cleric(s) using what appers to be a fighter skill in Goblin Camp. the best proof IMO. would be if a GM would come watch them in Disguise if needed, There are 10 50+ cleric in CP that are plvling new bots

what is your IGN and what happened provide me with information and i will do it for you if its justified, i don't really like blacksheeps too as i prefer... being a bunny. JOKE!


[EDIT] 1 more thing what are you reporting about may i know? what problems has SF caused u ??

and uh.. Fraps of the cleric(s) using what appers to be a fighter skill in Goblin Camp.. what has that to do with us?

we aren't a chinese guild anymore and have globalized xD
and we can't really take responsibility for every chinese in game hehehe

yea and.. regarding those fighter skills your talking about uh... can u please refer to the bug reporting section as i find that the CSR admins there will be more interested in your information...

and that you must understand this.. a guild consist of many people, a guild stands for a miniature community for friends.. as i hit 59 already.. i aint very active.. and it might be hard for you guys to communicate with other admins or GM so.. it might take awhile to identify these players on our side.. if u can provide nicks and stuff it'd be tons easier for me..

but i really want to suggest that to identify single players instead of bringing a whole guild down as it just doesnt sound right if u ask me regarding this issues..

[Doomherald]

yea! i agree they should be banned if its true, i agree!


but some evidence and player names from the guild who abused please.
for others i can help reply you hehe :p

i am an admin in that guild so if u want some help, fill me up with the information.

1.Well, I want to suggest to everyone to stay clear of this guild!
They were running mob trains on us because we we're farming the sap

1.a[ provide with nicks please, all i know is that chinsky, shen and G_hunter_W farming saps last night. If the people who did it are not the 3 of them please kindly provide me with further information like IGN n stuff]

2.[EG] They Bot to sell gold and to power lvl people. It is widely known by all legit players that they are botters

2a. very well, i believe you hold some detailed information, kindly give screenshots and nicks of players donig this as i too am very against botting, but people must understand that not all of them bot and stuff so i need valid names for this to not exist anymore. And while running from elderine to cp for deathrun to uruga, i see alot of unknowns esp cleric botting, from other guilds too so we should get rid of this problem once and for all and start a thread and report all botters there so GMs can follow up with the information.

As for Goldselling, i am not very sure about that issue, i am not very sure how do u know about it and where and when, but i have been working together with dakkon to clear out this issue.

Preferably i would choose to believe this as dakkon has logs of trading done by my fellow guild members and has and will check them as dakkon does not approve of any gold supplying and to my knowledge, dakkon is keeping track of everyone's transaction and that dakkon enforces this rule very strictly.

So i will erase any doubts with this that there are no gold farming characters in this Guild presently.
[NOTE] from what i know, dakkon sees where the transaction comes from go to and stuff so no one can cheat the gm :p meaning if you pass it to a noob and then to a bank followed by the silvers being distributed, you can't get away with it.

As for powerlevelling.. im not so such about that, other than Hunter plevelling his newb character uh.. i dont see why he cant powerlevel his own character. for additional information, please supply this thread so we get a clear image.

And yea, we have got involved with a few guild wars but we it was friendly ones in which we have spoken to a admin or GM to start a war O_O? probably?? ah ya other then the one we started a war for deathangels to help them as they were getting ganked as they are friends of chinsky and currently she has gone over to help them but as friend we will still help if 6 guilds still continue ganking deathangels at a single time^^


[PS] for damage_inc people, miyavizm here. i was away when you guys had a war earlier on so you can PM me in game or state here the reason why u guys had a war and who declared.



Seriously, i know that SF has some problems cause there is babel, but thats why im in SF, too help u guys communicate ^^ everyone wants a fun time including chinese people~ and ill mannered players exist everywhere^^



so if u want preventions of such events happening again, you can kindly post the information i require so i can boot them from guild and that GMs can have the information too.

Isn't the screen shot that Kaizoku provided enough?!? I mean cmon!! He's typing in capital letters to to leave him alone hes grinding. Pictures are worth a thousand words my friend. I can even say he was being ganked by more then 3 at least in this pic. I call it harrasment!

Secondly; your guild warred us for no apparent reason. I, nor any of my guild members in thier right mind would even want to war a guild full of 50's...again, indications of harrasment! Why would YOUR guild wanna war us for no reason? ASk them. I lost 2 of my key members because of this incident.

I do hope that you perform any actions necessary to prevent this from happening again.

[WindStruck_]

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uh i checked with guild? says that uh.. lemme see.. uh.. moongirl? shen and a mage were farming at sap and uh some guys kept training them????
and they had to have the guild cleric SHEN come revive them plenty??

O i get it now.. sorta hehe

u guys are farming saps and trained each other???

[lordalden]

Well, I want to suggest to everyone to stay clear of this guild! They were running mob trains on us because we we're farming the sap they need to make silver with for a goldselling website.

They Bot to sell gold and to power lvl people. It is widely known by all legit players that they are botters, I just hope they will be dealt with by the GM's

Mm. They were rude to my group when we went to get sap's too. They are pretty reprehensible players, in all honesty.

[Doomherald]

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uh i checked with guild? says that uh.. lemme see.. uh.. moongirl? shen and a mage were farming at sap and uh some guys kept training them????
and they had to have the guild cleric SHEN come revive them plenty??

O i get it now.. sorta hehe

u guys are farming saps and trained each other???


Funny you said that. My guild said that your 10 members trained on 2 of mines.

Look...the majority of us here in Bijou don't appreciate how your guild is treating all of us.

Keep a leash on your dog!!!

Thank you!!

[WindStruck_]

Isn't the screen shot that Kaizoku provided enough?!? I mean cmon!! He's typing in capital letters to to leave him alone hes grinding. Pictures are worth a thousand words my friend. I can even say he was being ganked by more then 3 at least in this pic. I call it harrasment!

Secondly; your guild warred us for no apparent reason. I, nor any of my guild members in thier right mind would even want to war a guild full of 50's...again, indications of harrasment! Why would YOUR guild wanna war us for no reason? ASk them. I lost 2 of my key members because of this incident.

I do hope that you perform any actions necessary to prevent this from happening again.


Uh yea..yea.. firstly a picture says a million words.. and.. i only see a war going on with people hitting each other... secondly and for those paying attention thirdly, they don't understand? and if you want to grind u leave guild right?.. thats what i did in Aoi_No_Kaze...
fourth, uh... i've seen people ganking like 6 guilds on deathangels? not 3 people ganking 1 so... if its a guild war i dont really care if that happens..

yes yes many people in their right mind wouldn't declare a war to lose.. but some people are left brainers~ for this matter im not sure who declared who and uh.. if its a war i don't think it'd be that much a problem for u as i've seen damage_inc warring onyx chevaliars and stuff so.. really? is it harassment? and uh it seems my members are complaining of people from damage_inc training them at sap?? wasn't there so im not very sure.

[WindStruck_]

Look...the majority of us here in Bijou don't appreciate how your guild is treating all of us.

Keep a leash on your dog!!!

Thank you!!

very well i noticed that the people who started this thread and are actually replying to it is from damage_inc so if theres anything else you need u can post me a message in game still if you still encounter problems with my guildies in future? because like i said i dont like people taking a whole guild down ;( especially when i dont even know some of them well

for Doomherald,i don't think my guild members are dogs and i also wish to state that i am kinda against the idea of using insults to settle stuff :D
or is it that i am not doing enough to settle the dispute you have between three players and you?

[Temari_and_Gaara]

o-o thats messed up.....

[Doomherald]

Wind.

Its a figure of speech.

I didnt mean that all your guild members are dogs literally.

If you dont understand here's what I meant; put an end to your guilds harrasments by any decipinary actions.

[WindStruck_]

very, i had to type a page of words to account for the dispute between 4 =="

people just go settle it privately in future if theres an argument
if there are bots or stuff just report it to the gm the rest of the stuff i have no control over probably? so kindly refer to the appropriate section and stop taking it out on me :(

[babytortise]

hahaha poor miya

[WindStruck_]

***! SLACKER! aren't u supposed to be grinding?

crap, just alt tabbed, lagged and die ==" my scrolls.. nooooo

[WindStruck_]

Wind.

Its a figure of speech.

I didnt mean that all your guild members are dogs literally.

If you dont understand here's what I meant; put an end to your guilds harrasments by any decipinary actions.



what the heck was i talking about in my past previous posts?

what harassments? you guys didn't even tell me what was going on and i spend like 1 hour just explaining your topic and replying your leader by itself????

like i said.. i dont even know what's going on now.. is it a random thought like u walked passed a sf member and u see him grinding and u talk to him he doesnt reply acts like a bot and stuff ??

if there is, tell me! i'd kick him out of guild and leave the disciplinary actions for the gm if its a botter or something, other than that i don't really care if they are not going against the toa.

And seriously i would like to take this chance to say that i am very disgusted with guildies giving a bad name to a guild and if you people came up with such a topic and leave such comments u better provide me with some information as like i said, i get very disgusted with people when i get a bad name due to some other reasons which i am not responsible for.

[Doomherald]

Uh yea..yea.. firstly a picture says a million words.. and.. i only see a war going on with people hitting each other... secondly and for those paying attention thirdly, they don't understand? and if you want to grind u leave guild right?.. thats what i did in Aoi_No_Kaze...
fourth, uh... i've seen people ganking like 6 guilds on deathangels? not 3 people ganking 1 so... if its a guild war i dont really care if that happens..

yes yes many people in their right mind wouldn't declare a war to lose.. but some people are left brainers~ for this matter im not sure who declared who and uh.. if its a war i don't think it'd be that much a problem for u as i've seen damage_inc warring onyx chevaliars and stuff so.. really? is it harassment? and uh it seems my members are complaining of people from damage_inc training them at sap?? wasn't there so im not very sure.

We never delcare a war unless it's a good reason to. Guilds that you mentioned above are well in our level range if not above 2-3 levels. Yes we have warred them..and yes we have won and lost. Yet you dont hear us complaining about our losses because we knew it was a fair fight. But in your case....a guild with level 50's vs level 25's-30's and 1 level 51 mage is uncalled for. And finally, How can you say that ALL of us are there to pull trains on anyone? We'd be dead in one hit...cmon!!!


Look i've justified my guild here and i'm sure the majority of the readers agree that your guild need some re-work. you need to start screening people.

[WindStruck_]

We never delcare a war unless it's a good reason to. Guilds that you mentioned above are well in our level range if not above 2-3 levels. Yes we have warred them..and yes we have won and lost. Yet you dont hear us complaining about our losses because we knew it was a fair fight. But in your case....a guild with level 50's vs level 25's-30's and 1 level 51 mage is uncalled for. And finally, How can you say that ALL of us are there to pull trains on anyone? We'd be dead in one hit...cmon!!!


Look i've justified my guild here and i'm sure the majority of the readers agree that your guild need some re-work. you need to start screening people.

i don't think deathangels is in your level range and that 6 guilds on one doesn't sound fair to me even if thats the case.

2. i seriously do not like the way you arrange your words. now tell me
And finally, How can you say that ALL of us are there to pull trains on anyone? We'd be dead in one hit...cmon!!!

when did i ever say that? i do not even know what crack are you on much less what are you talking about. If you want to make things personal, i digress.

[WindStruck_]

Mm. They were rude to my group when we went to get sap's too. They are pretty reprehensible players, in all honesty.


aIden i do not want to hear that from u of all players.

we all know how u take on everyone in uruga at the same time,flood my screen with your spams just because someone skipped the filter and said some vulgarities

and until now I have not once gank up with other players to argue with u and have just filter shout like u said.

[Doomherald]

i don't think deathangels is in your level range and that 6 guilds on one doesn't sound fair to me even if thats the case.

2. i seriously do not like the way you arrange your words. now tell me


when did i ever say that? i do not even know what crack are you on much less what are you talking about. If you want to make things personal, i digress.



and uh it seems my members are complaining of people from damage_inc training them at sap?? wasn't there so im not very sure.

that sound familiar?

Look.. I'm tired, and i'm goind to sleep! It was interesting to know how you are and admin but have no control over your guild. At least we know that much.

I'm sure you are a good person and you mean well to your guild. It only upsets me to lose friends over incidents like this. I just hope this will not happen again.

thanks..twas fun ^^

[WindStruck_]

and uh it seems my members are complaining of people from damage_inc training them at sap?? wasn't there so im not very sure.

that sound familiar?


look i said that i was going to checked that out and i found out that it involved 3 of my guild members and 1 other guy from your guild who trained them it seems. i did state it in my other posts, if your too lazy to read, leave it to someone else so i actually get the information i want.

[Amathius]

Actually I am storing am in possesion of and will continue to file embarassing FRAP's video and screenshots until I believe there is so much information available it will become aparent that Sleepy heads - or forests - whatever's guild administration either have no grasp on day to day guild activity are mentally retarded or are actively covering for thier guilds farming / botting practices.

This guild speaks no english (ive yet to find one that does and will do so ingame ) and I thought foreign players were banned from logging onto so cal servers?

Constantly farms with little or no player interaction.

Harasses and trains other players on a regular basis

and the list goes on.

Stay tuned because when I do post this will all look very , very , very , silly.

[sorsorday2]

for bots I saw in cp
It is 9546 (i may mess up the number a little bit...but a ign consist of 4 numbers...)

[WindStruck_]

Actually I am storing am in possesion of and will continue to file embarassing FRAP's video and screenshots until I believe there is so much information available it will become aparent that Sleepy heads - or forests - whatever's guild administration either have no grasp on day to day guild activity are mentally retarded or are actively covering for thier guilds farming / botting practices.

This guild speaks no english (ive yet to find one that does and will do so ingame ) and I thought foreign players were banned from logging onto so cal servers?

Constantly farms with little or no player interaction.

Harasses and trains other players on a regular basis

and the list goes on.

Stay tuned because when I do post this will all look very , very , very , silly.

very good, finally i get something i can reply too. But leave the insults out.
whether a guild speaks english or not i do not care,
and yes we have alot of people from singapore and a few from philiphines who speak english.

many foreign people play many foreign games, many people i know in game excluding them are out of the desired continent.

i am not talking on that continent topic just to justify myself, i play from oklahoma city so i am safe.

whatever's guild administration either have no grasp on day to day guild activity are mentally retarded or are actively covering for thier guilds farming / botting practices.

i like to say that to my knowledge, only clerics uses bot even up to earlier i saw a cleric who died but the bot continued healing in uruga, that person is not a chinese. about practices, like i said i personally do not bot, money supp my records are clean and i do not encourage such behavior either, give the information and i from my side can ban them out of guild, like i said, i do not mind when people actually provide information because on the basis of as admin of a guild like you are, i would like to get rid of black sheeps too.

[abuckstunt]

lol amat now thats how u look like?

[WindStruck_]

for bots I saw in cp
It is 9546 (i may mess up the number a little bit...but a ign consist of 4 numbers...)

i will look into this and if found guilty, player will be permanently banned from guild. i will give you a reply by saturday 12pm CST

finally we are getting somewhere, please keep the reports coming in.


I have gotten the necessary information regarding sapping areas.
My conclusion is that members have all been warned not to engage in sabotaging other players, likewise it is expected from everyone else.

following which, tension is expected due to limited minerals and respawn time.

So this is what i am going to do to prevent issues like this from popping up ever again:

If in circumstances that a certain member stands out too much in "sabotaging" others due to whatever reason, player will be banned from the guild.


I also would take this chance to assure you that from the last GM cash supplying check, there currently no members of SF have associated themselves with gold farming to sell for real life cash.

[Doomherald]

look i said that i was going to checked that out and i found out that it involved 3 of my guild members and 1 other guy from your guild who trained them it seems. i did state it in my other posts, if your too lazy to read, leave it to someone else so i actually get the information i want.


Wind.

No need for insults! I was simply venting my frustrations and do appologize if my words seem harsh. I already said what I feel I needed to say.

When you are as upset as I was, You'd understand when reading through posts like these, you miss alot of critical info and just get to the point.

At this point...I dont really care anymore. It's just a game...it just upsetted me when friends leave because of this.

you do what you feel you need to do...

=)) see ya!!

[abuckstunt]

P.S didnt u the leader take SleepingForest frum the anime show Air Gear?

[Amathius]

yeah thats me! ^_^

[abuckstunt]

yeah thats me! ^_^

lol u look different then i thought u were lol :D

[WindStruck_]

P.S didnt u the leader take SleepingForest frum the anime show Air Gear?

yea! we wanted to do kogarasumaru ! although i am not the guild master, i have been given the privilege to name the guild as my friends who stayed wanted to be friendly along with other guys, they too like to be accepted, this i assure you :)

lololol brings back memories, i have always liked to name virtual stuff against real life examples hahaha and as a few of SF were members from the previous Greatwall, lololol reminds me of a previous guy who liked to make jokes out of points like kilik from sf lol and yes, they too felt the need to revamp and stuff so we took SF as an example, and yea, they understand air gear, fansubs are global :x



And yes i admit that bad guilds exists, it happens everywhere not only here, due to guild members and it's administration. I, Miyavizm might be guilty of that as until this thread was made known, I did not know that so much problems exists and have only concentrated on grinding so i wish for your assistance, if u see botters and stuff please put them here so i can quickly look into the matter and remove them from the guild if a problem exists. but so far i have not received any complaints and have ignored many matters due to stereotyping and many perspective opinions.

I'd do abit of background here, i personally have school and work to cope with and my sister and her boyfriend grinds for me so I might not aways be on so i advise people to actually post it up in this thread, my promise is that i will regularly check this thread to make sure that our friendly guild is purged of necessary elements and to get along well or, at least co-exist with the community.


cheers ^^

[AriesMehjor]

yea! we wanted to do kogarasumaru ! although i am not the guild master, i have been given the privilege to name the guild as my friends who stayed wanted to be friendly along with other guys, they too like to be accepted, this i assure you :)

lololol brings back memories, i have always liked to name virtual stuff against real life examples hahaha and as a few of SF were members from the previous Greatwall, lololol reminds me of a previous guy who liked to make jokes out of points like kilik from sf lol and yes, they too felt the need to revamp and stuff so we took SF as an example, and yea, they understand air gear, fansubs are global :x

God, im glad i dont play on this server or I woulda probably been beating the crap out of all of your silly guilds characters lol, joke, but no I really would. Sounds to me like the way Gardon was a long time ago, before they finally decided to filter out the money makers of the guild.

Botting, AGAINST TOS, GM STEAM WILL BANHAMMER YOUR !#$ QUICKER THAN YOU CAN SAY, allright 40% till lvl 56. Gold selling BANNED!, Harassment BANNED! Guild warring harrassment type behavior, BANNED! Logging in from a server that has been barred from use with Fiesta of Southern Californias system, BANNED BANNED AND POSSIBLY BANNED AGAIN! Failure to control guild members actions.....NOT BANNED, But constantly warred by as many players as possible untill your guild gets the hint. WORLD WAR IV! Acting like a noob in Uraga, NOT BANNED, But will recieve a personal Banhammer in the form of a guild war where constant bash attacks occur.

Teva server: has as little trouble with this because we use our own personal methods of bannhammer, which consist of, guild warring you until the offence is stopped, training your bots and farmers, destroying your shops with mobs in uruga who set up scam shops, and doing whatever possible to stop the offenders where they stand.

Bijou: Take a lesson from the old dogs, and if the vast majority of Bijou thinks that theres foul play going on, dont just stand there and let it happen, be a vigalante if you need to. Just letting it go on forever just leads to....the dreaded.....omg....spam in uruga! OMG! If your server gets spam in uruga, you all need to be shot lol. Pls dont let it come to that.

[tazzz]

look i was the one that was there me and xanex from damage inc. and what we were doing was grinding killing mobs and picking sap if it was close maybe 2 trees everyspawn we wasnt trying to hogg it all and as for 3 no they were 2 the third was sapping alone it was the female cleric dont remember {his/or her} name but she did nothing to anyone.
but anyways we went there cause everywere else was full..
it had been bad crowded all day in uruga

they pulled 2 spiders on us and we ran away cause spiders do happen there
very rarly 2 but no biggy but the pulled a sec mobb well it was time to react
cause i wasnt doing anything to them and they bring mobbs on me no sir
i admit it i did mobb them
and after both of them died SLEEPING FOREST declared war on us
so i knew they were wanting me gone so i just suicided in to the woods cause i wasnt gonna give them the satisfaction for killing me
and i quit the guild by the time i got to town they were a few of them then and you see how that went down

but no i did not start it they did
but a person can only take so much

[WindStruck_]

AriesMehjor - FFS, LOOK at the previous posts.

tazzz i wasn't there and have never been there so im not very sure but i'd be sure to get the message to everyone?.. and really do not mob on purpose and shen always runs from creeps at trumpies and pulls it to us to get it off him while he is farming, my guess is that they are probably trying to lose the mobs to get to a hill or clear opening but you guys were somehow there i guess? so if theres a misunderstanding somewhere i can't help it.. i'd probably take the blame as it has become apparent that there is a problem somewhere somehow but do not mob train as it pisses people off and im not always around to control the situation :/

btw what guild are you from tazzz? is the war with damage_inc affiliated with this problem? well i have to head to bed soon, but if this explains what happened with damage_inc i guess that in this sense, we aren't really liable for it are we?..
but its okay.. its only a game and that it's already over so i guess its fine we solved a lot of problems in this way too^^ so yea.. i guess thats all for the topic right? imma go to bed soon almost 3am here

[tazzz]

ok then not being racist or nothing but could u plez teach them a little english were we can understand them if he would have said atleast look out no biggy
80% of the people on here dont understand the {tivnds sofl sdfld}
stuff or how ever they do it
i mean murdok tried to tell shen to move away from him a million times the other day and he would just ignore it or didnt understand

i mean u can translate for them but youll never be everywere at once


ohh and if i did make word outta that i didnt mean too????

[WindStruck_]

np =="

probably should get the threadstarter to change the topic to maybe problems with sf or something cause if something trivia like this sparked so much stuff i'd be having problems later on.. thanks lot for clarifying the matter anyway =="

and yep hunter is learning english can understand pretty much now and yea.. i've been trying to translate alot and even for a gm matter which involved the gm questioning another player so yea.. thats how i came to know about how gold supply and stuff so probably dont worry the policies against those are intact.. but please help me kill the stereotyping.. cause from a single post like this.. we can tell that theres alot of misunderstanding so hopefully, in the near future.. sf can get along and communicate with everyone else easily to avoid such situations in future.. and such stuff.. usually requires the understanding of other players and such.. actually we've been helping other guilds too.. but yea.. the good stuff never get publicized not that we're helping to get credit out of it but yea.. probably would help alot.. well.. ciaos everyone gotta go to bed.. nights all and thanks for the people who help pointed out our flaws, we are 1 step closer to getting along with everyone and yes.. u guys can still tell me if any of such stuff happens and such.. so yea.. hopefully i or the other singaporean guys are around to translate and mediate stuff cause from this as an example, seemingly its a misunderstanding but it blows up cause people usually dont take the time to clear things up.. cheers!

[Doomherald]

Actually I am storing am in possesion of and will continue to file embarassing FRAP's video and screenshots until I believe there is so much information available it will become aparent that Sleepy heads - or forests - whatever's guild administration either have no grasp on day to day guild activity are mentally retarded or are actively covering for thier guilds farming / botting practices.

This guild speaks no english (ive yet to find one that does and will do so ingame ) and I thought foreign players were banned from logging onto so cal servers?

Constantly farms with little or no player interaction.

Harasses and trains other players on a regular basis

and the list goes on.

Stay tuned because when I do post this will all look very , very , very , silly.


Thank you Amanthius! Although My character isn't high level enough to be in the same areas with sleepy heads to capture any evidence of thier practices, at least you have a couple of cat meows to prove it. =))

[laine45]

well my frind chinsky is in that guild and i dont know if she uses a bot but this might help yesterday she was level 35 and when i got back on and i looked at her level and it said she was 37 in like 3 or 4 hours but i dont think she sells gold but she might use a bot to level cause it has took me like a day or 2 just to get passed 25

[RanmaruX]

Not only that but they start guild wars and harrass players while trying to grind

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/epsie/screenshot.jpg

Yeah ban these guys.

I was in their party a few days back and I saw them steal mobs from people for aoe, KS, and TRAIN other people who were in the area we were partying at.

Mostly this was done by the player "123123123123", also I've seen shen try to train people (like me) in the sap spot at AEW multiple times.

They're running bots in CP and power leveling new characters at the same time (most likely for level service and new bot characters), everyone knows this...

This guild is VERY bad mannered, I was in the party that is in the picture that I quoted until SleepingForest started messing it up by attacking the archer and ruining our party grinding on Orcs at Uruga.

Please I beg of you, do something about them..

[RanmaruX]

tazzz i wasn't there and have never been there so im not very sure but i'd be sure to get the message to everyone?.. and really do not mob on purpose and shen always runs from creeps at trumpies and pulls it to us to get it off him while he is farming, my guess is that they are probably trying to lose the mobs to get to a hill or clear opening but you guys were somehow there i guess?

I laughed.. ^_^

Last time I was there on the sap spot I remember shen going off to the woods just to get the trees and other mobs on us, but he's a lousy trainer so we were able to avoid aggro from them just by running away from him.

All the time shen kept coming back with more and more mobs with him and every single time he was coming at our direction for some odd reason no matter what spot we farmed..

When I warned a friend of mine who was farming there as well they told me that they know since shen keeps trying to mob him all the time too.

Now tell me that's not on purpose..

SleepingForest has the worst players in it that I've had the chance of meeting in Fiesta so far.

[WindStruck_]

well my frind chinsky is in that guild and i dont know if she uses a bot but this might help yesterday she was level 35 and when i got back on and i looked at her level and it said she was 37 in like 3 or 4 hours but i dont think she sells gold but she might use a bot to level cause it has took me like a day or 2 just to get passed 25

cause uh i powerlevelled her?.. maybe?? and she has been actively partying with other people and leveling herself. isnt she?


shen has been told to leave the guild so.. anything else?

Doomherald - as the leader of damage inc please don give more trouble to us look to the page before, you guys trained the other 2 guys from before and then the war started. don't just chuck everything on us

[xibou]

I was in their party a few days back and I saw them steal mobs from people for aoe, KS, and TRAIN other people who were in the area we were partying at.
First of CP is THE levelingservice map in fiesta. Everytime i come there there are at least 10 people with level <30 asking for others to level them. If 123123123 does so it is his problem...
Second, how do you expect to collect alot of mobs in CP to aoe without mocking every now and then? if 123123123 or PIPI ( i saw both doing this, i partied with later and nearly collapsed lauging as i saw his mock steal your mobs ) donnot mock while luring several mobs will lose agro on him and start charging you instead. This problem could be solved very easily by having only one party per spot.
Furthermore at least to me 123123123 appologized for mocking away my ogre while pulling agro away from his party s mage...

They're running bots in CP and power leveling new characters at the same time (most likely for level service and new bot characters), everyone knows this...
I don t know this. The only bots i know to be in a guild are annana and hellenen and both are not in sleeping forest.
Complaining about KSing ( while grinding ) is a joke anyway, and not to train/war outside of town is merely a guideline. How comes noone is complaining about bladeslicer, xXIchigoXx ( was it him? there are so many ichigos around i am hard to remember their propper IDs ), ed_123, ... even though they are famous for being trainers?
And great money is also not made by picking up some chewy meats, lustered dusts or neclaces in CP. Money is made by teleporthacking and killing all GGKs/ZKs/TKs like it s done by members of another guild ( saw them teleporting from GGK to GGK, don t know how it s with TK and ZK ), and later selling the drops as only they get it due to low spawn rate.

[WindStruck_]

whoa im surprised.. an outsider actually came to clarify things O_O

[RanmaruX]

First of CP is THE levelingservice map in fiesta. Everytime i come there there are at least 10 people with level <30 asking for others to level them. If 123123123 does so it is his problem...
Second, how do you expect to collect alot of mobs in CP to aoe without mocking every now and then? if 123123123 or PIPI ( i saw both doing this, i partied with later and nearly collapsed lauging as i saw his mock steal your mobs )

I was in their party and I saw them steal mobs from others, not me. He didn't come straight back to the spot we used to kill the mobs, but he took a detour by going to mock the mobs of the other parties there.

When that didn't work he collected the mobs again and clearly trained the other parties in the area on purpose as he didn't come back to the spot we used, but he rode right over the other parties and kept on going even though he had no need to do so as he was not about to die or anything.

The other players in the party were attacking the other party's mobs when we were waiting for our aoe mobs to spawn.

This is when I left the party because I couldn't stand playing with such bad mannered kids.

I don t know this.

Then obviously you've never been to that part of CP?

They've got "KKANG", and that "9(3 other random digits here)" botting that spot pretty much around the clock.

Every single time I'm going to Uruga from there I see that digit character killing the Prisoners there. And yes there are other bots in the area, but who knows how many of those could just be their multis.

[Cherushi]

woah i actually found the thread XD T.T oh my i cant believe i was accused of botting.. by a friend none the less T.T

anyways.... hmm about sleepingforest just to clarify.. isnt full of bots T.T not everyone can speak english, so if they dont respond at you, dont you go accusing them of being bots JUST YET. T.T thats not very nice of you. As for training... well i was in the sap the whole day XD but as far as training is concerned, in order to survive there ull run from mobs so sometimes it is an accident and not intentionally done. So be careful in your accusations please.

I actually partied with someone i cant talk to very much (she's chinese too i think) and as far as i remember she used to be in sleepingforest too, but she wasnt a bot but she didnt talk much as much as i did.

While there are bots and trainers, please be careful on accusing the whole guild, that's so narrowminded of you people! and Miya's trying his best >:O so don't go insulting other people quickly! meanies.... T.T

[WingSword]

Well, I want to suggest to everyone to stay clear of this guild! They were running mob trains on us because we we're farming the sap they need to make silver with for a goldselling website.

They Bot to sell gold and to power lvl people. It is widely known by all legit players that they are botters, I just hope they will be dealt with by the GM's

i agree they trained me many times >.>

[sorsorday2]

How comes noone is complaining about bladeslicer, xXIchigoXx ( was it him? there are so many ichigos around i am hard to remember their propper IDs ), ed_123, ... even though they are famous for being trainers?

If we complain blade and others, they will say, "hey, why don't you complain sleeping forest too?". Or you want us to provide the whole list of trainers in the server???...The person who open this post talks about SleepingForest, doesn't mean this is the only guild nor the people in that are the only one who train. Be mature, kid.

[angel_sanctuary]

From what I've noticed, some of the players in that guild go on a rider or just run and grab many monster for AoE and sometimes that causes a train of monsters and effects the other players around, but I supposed it could be regular train as well, dunno, I've only seen them training a bunch of monsters to AoE or whatever

[Doomherald]

cause uh i powerlevelled her?.. maybe?? and she has been actively partying with other people and leveling herself. isnt she?


shen has been told to leave the guild so.. anything else?

Doomherald - as the leader of damage inc please don give more trouble to us look to the page before, you guys trained the other 2 guys from before and then the war started. don't just chuck everything on us

***??!? LOL!

If you are too lazy to read yourself, I already said I dont care anymore. *** is your problem now? Dude, obviously you have MORE ppl complaining about your guild besides me. For me...this issue is old, done and over with.. =.=

And don't bring up my Name or guild anymore!!! You have other ppl and issues to deal with. Don't be opening up old wounds that are already healed.
I hope we have some to a conclusion to this and that we are on the same page on this matter.

Plz dont waste my time.



Thank you

[WindStruck_]

***??!? LOL!

If you are too lazy to read yourself, I already said I dont care anymore. *** is your problem now? Dude, obviously you have MORE ppl complaining about your guild besides me. For me...this issue is old, done and over with.. =.=

And don't bring up my Name or guild anymore!!! You have other ppl and issues to deal with. Don't be opening up old wounds that are already healed.
I hope we have some to a conclusion to this and that we are on the same page on this matter.

Plz dont waste my time.



Thank you




well ur guild is the only one atm other then that 123 training and nothing else and 123 guild hops alot so i d k what he is doing and if u started the thread and whine u better give me some prove, up to this period u have not shown or provided me with much information like the topic suggests.

and damage_inc which is lead by doomherald are the ones whining if i do not get back to u for u to clarify this matter, who do i go to may i ask? anyway we're currently disbanded as the guild bug is over and we bought greatwall back but the streaming for joining the guild now is stricter so hope it doesnt cause anyone problems anymore

[Xadien]

Yup, we need some active GM's on Our Server to Observe the whole area like on invisible mode. I went to sleeep wokeup same people at sap, raided on wow for 5 hours came back, same people,i bet when i wake up to they will be there -.-. 80% of people also farming those sap's dont speak english at all, and usually 1 person runs up says something and ports out.:mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Doomherald]

well ur guild is the only one atm other then that 123 training and nothing else and 123 guild hops alot so i d k what he is doing and if u started the thread and whine u better give me some prove, up to this period u have not shown or provided me with much information like the topic suggests.

and damage_inc which is lead by doomherald are the ones whining if i do not get back to u for u to clarify this matter, who do i go to may i ask? anyway we're currently disbanded as the guild bug is over and we bought greatwall back but the streaming for joining the guild now is stricter so hope it doesnt cause anyone problems anymore

*** is your problem? Obviously you haven't read my last post or you dont read english too well. This originally started off with only two members of my guild vs at least 5 or more from yours. And please keep in mind that this thread IS all about YOUR guild not mine. If you haven't noticed yet..there is another thread about your guild LOL! You want proof? Read the other thread; you not only have myself and other individuals complaining here but on another thread as well.

I'm beginning to think you like the interaction you are getting from all of this and you and your guild is doing this on purpose. I'm not even surprised if you do know them in real life and support these so-called practices. Why do i say this? Because I haven't seen ANYTHING done to satisfy those who ARE complaining about your guild. Even though you brought back Greatwall, i'm not surprised if they consist of the same people accused from SF are in Greatwall with alternate toons to play. So HENCE...I don't care anymore....it will never end.


Again....PLEASE DON'T WASTE MY TIME!

Thank you

[ryuarashi]

I have not only seen the sleeping forest guild bot, I watched them gang up on a grinding buddy, and not only did they attack him 5:1, they also trained our grinding party because they wanted us to stop supporting him. They harassed our entire party, just so that they could kill him repetitively.

I have been trained by one or more of their members in uruga, just because I wanted to share the same area as them. I dont kill steel, and i never got very close to them. But still they decided to repetitively train me, making it impossible to stay where I was.

The sleeping forest guild, from the members I have known and attempted to talk to, are unable to understand english or talk ingame to most people. I am not against people from other countries, but to play an america based game, the participants should be able to converse with the people in game.

There have also been instances, that regretably i do not have ss of yet, but I will take the next time it happens, the I am arround members of the Sleeping Forest guild and I am force dc. The guild members that I am grinding near will start talking in hackers code, and then my computer will shut down fiesta.bin completely. This has happened many times, and from what I have researched is a hack that is used in game, they seem to use it to force dc people who are near their party, perhaps to lessen competition?

From my experiances, the sleeping forest guild live upto their reputations of harassing, botting, hacking members of the fiesta society and should be reprimanded in ways fitting their kind.

[RanmaruX]

I have not only seen the sleeping forest guild bot, I watched them gang up on a grinding buddy, and not only did they attack him 5:1, they also trained our grinding party because they wanted us to stop supporting him. They harassed our entire party, just so that they could kill him repetitively.

I have been trained by one or more of their members in uruga, just because I wanted to share the same area as them. I dont kill steel, and i never got very close to them. But still they decided to repetitively train me, making it impossible to stay where I was.

The sleeping forest guild, from the members I have known and attempted to talk to, are unable to understand english or talk ingame to most people. I am not against people from other countries, but to play an america based game, the participants should be able to converse with the people in game.

There have also been instances, that regretably i do not have ss of yet, but I will take the next time it happens, the I am arround members of the Sleeping Forest guild and I am force dc. The guild members that I am grinding near will start talking in hackers code, and then my computer will shut down fiesta.bin completely. This has happened many times, and from what I have researched is a hack that is used in game, they seem to use it to force dc people who are near their party, perhaps to lessen competition?

From my experiances, the sleeping forest guild live upto their reputations of harassing, botting, hacking members of the fiesta society and should be reprimanded in ways fitting their kind.

This "hackers code" you're referring to is most likely just foreign characters, such as the chinese character set, you will see these strange symbols that you think of as "hackers code" because your system can't display their true form.

As for what comes to the rest of your message, I totally agree with you.

[Trafalgar]

First of CP is THE levelingservice map in fiesta. Everytime i come there there are at least 10 people with level <30 asking for others to level them. If 123123123 does so it is his problem...
Second, how do you expect to collect alot of mobs in CP to aoe without mocking every now and then? if 123123123 or PIPI ( i saw both doing this, i partied with later and nearly collapsed lauging as i saw his mock steal your mobs ) donnot mock while luring several mobs will lose agro on him and start charging you instead. This problem could be solved very easily by having only one party per spot.
Furthermore at least to me 123123123 appologized for mocking away my ogre while pulling agro away from his party s mage...


I don t know this. The only bots i know to be in a guild are annana and hellenen and both are not in sleeping forest.
Complaining about KSing ( while grinding ) is a joke anyway, and not to train/war outside of town is merely a guideline. How comes noone is complaining about bladeslicer, xXIchigoXx ( was it him? there are so many ichigos around i am hard to remember their propper IDs ), ed_123, ... even though they are famous for being trainers?
And great money is also not made by picking up some chewy meats, lustered dusts or neclaces in CP. Money is made by teleporthacking and killing all GGKs/ZKs/TKs like it s done by members of another guild ( saw them teleporting from GGK to GGK, don t know how it s with TK and ZK ), and later selling the drops as only they get it due to low spawn rate.

bladeslicer is not a bot so shut up. I've been his friend for a long time and if you bug us while we are grinding we don't have to talk to you. Just because we don't reply doesn't mean we are botting.

[sbr999]

Necropost lmao
This guild is not active anymore :p

[FatalLace]

well my frind chinsky is in that guild and i dont know if she uses a bot but this might help yesterday she was level 35 and when i got back on and i looked at her level and it said she was 37 in like 3 or 4 hours but i dont think she sells gold but she might use a bot to level cause it has took me like a day or 2 just to get passed 25

funniest thing i read all day, someone accusing chinny of botting XD

gomen chinny, i thought this was just funny... <3 u cherry

[Cherushi]

ROFLMAOOO lol yeah. >.<

Chinsky the bot!!!!!!! @__________@

He would have reported me hmm had he seen me level from 44-50 o.o"

peace laine if ur reading ^^

[prototyped]

well my frind chinsky is in that guild and i dont know if she uses a bot but this might help yesterday she was level 35 and when i got back on and i looked at her level and it said she was 37 in like 3 or 4 hours but i dont think she sells gold but she might use a bot to level cause it has took me like a day or 2 just to get passed 25



^.~ chin's a bot!?!?!?!!??!?! OMG T_T it was i bot i was whispering the entire time?

<----is sad now


hahha anyway think you got wrong idea. she always talking too much to be bot

[Jhanniss]

bladeslicer is not a bot so shut up. I've been his friend for a long time and if you bug us while we are grinding we don't have to talk to you. Just because we don't reply doesn't mean we are botting.

Why did you bother posting in a thread that's nearly 3 months passed since the last post prior to yours? Let them die please... ~.~

[FrostFruit]

The picture doesn't prove much.^^ You could have set them up. Please try put more evident screenshots.

As for botters, plvlers and goldsellers, where is the evidence? Do not say false accusations. Isn't this suppose to be messaged to a GM?

I would believe you, but the evidence isn't enough for me. Maybe you could have started the war. Hmmm.....

**EDIT**: 3 months.Oo

[RanmaruX]

Gah just let it die, this is old stuff I doubt the guild is even active anymore.

[TheSilentOne]

wont happen, i sent screenies with undisputable proof of bots many times to GMs, they reply saying they handled it, but yet i still see them..

[kinsin]

thesilentone is right, ever been to golden cave? i did what icould about that place to the GMs and if anyone goes their its a laugh that no GMs realize, this is a huge cash crop for the gold sites, their is a bot at almost every single ore and they found a way around the death relogs, its on a timer and they come back, either they have a billion+ characters somehow b/c they die nonstop til the mob moves 1 inch away from LOS Aggro, or they found a way to relog to come back from death...
go their urself, you will see it..

The GMs try to help but hell.. they still haven't fixed half the higher up quests, what little their is of them.

[Jhanniss]

thesilentone is right, ever been to golden cave? i did what icould about that place to the GMs and if anyone goes their its a laugh that no GMs realize, this is a huge cash crop for the gold sites, their is a bot at almost every single ore and they found a way around the death relogs, its on a timer and they come back, either they have a billion+ characters somehow b/c they die nonstop til the mob moves 1 inch away from LOS Aggro, or they found a way to relog to come back from death...
go their urself, you will see it..

The GMs try to help but hell.. they still haven't fixed half the higher up quests, what little their is of them.


I know the frustrations and the GMs are aware of things. I believe Dakkon has a stickied thread in place in one of the forum areas with asking the players for feedback on putting level restrictions on the Uruga portals. I, like yourself, am upset at seeing so much happening but do know they are working on it and working towards finding a solution.

[Serric]

{pounds the final nail into this coffin}

The thread is dead - long live the thread!

GMs are working on bots nearly daily. It's an uphill battle... however, that is no reason to ressurrect a thread this old...

{CLOSED}